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    Today's Topics:

      1) Jordan Rudess mentioned on VH-1!!!
     by JE78674@ltu.edu
      2) Re: FAQ
     by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
      3) What's the DT w/ JR URL?
     by ShadowBor@aol.com
      4) Re: full band scores
     by Cassiano Barbosa <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
      5) Jordan Rudes(s)
     by Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com>
      6) I&W Artwork
     by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
      7) Happy Birthday John Myung!!
     by EricPMetze@aol.com
      8) 10 Favorites
     by "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
      9) Re: 10 fave bands
     by "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
     10) A (belated) review of the Philly show
     by "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
     11) Re: 10 fave bands
     by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
     12) Derek tribute (yeah!!!!) / Balkan sucks / 10 fave bands
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     13) Many ways to tell if you're a prog rocker
     by Sami Poimala <spoimala@st.jyu.fi>
     14) re: FUCK!!!
     by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
     15) Re: re: damn
     by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
     16) Re: FAQ
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
     17) Re: I&W Artwork
     by Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
     18) Top 10 bands
     by Hypermax <hypermax@win.bright.net>

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:38:58 -0500 (EST)
    From: JE78674@ltu.edu
    To: YTSEJAM@axnet.net
    Subject: Jordan Rudess mentioned on VH-1!!!
    Message-ID: <01J6WKRJ6VLU8WX57F@LTU.EDU>

    I was watching, "Where are they now." They were doing a little
    thing on "Winger" and after talking about the old Kipster and his living
    in the valley somewhere, they showed Rod Morgenstein! They showed how
    he teaches at Berkely and the Rudess/Morgenstein Cd! That just kicked
    ass to see. They even showed an excerpt from the jam session video
    those two did. I forget where the video is from, my friend owns it,
    not me :) But, it was the same movie, nonetheless.

    How about that, DT actually gets mentioned here in the states on VH-1!
    Well, one member at least :)

    -Jeff E.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:40:36 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
    To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: FAQ
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.01.9901240440100.8360-100000@viking.cris.com>

    On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com wrote:

    > Has anyone updated the FAQ since Jordan joined DT? Last I checked it
    > still said Derek Sherinian: keyboards. UPDATE THE FAQ!!!!!! :-)

    "Anyone"? Oh, you mean FAQ Slacker Extraorinaire, Pat Griffin. According
    to the version that's on the Official DT page, it was last updated "12
    July 1998". Hmmm.... a lot has happened and a lot of questions have been
    asked since then, eh? Yeah, I thought so. Here's an idea... everyone email
    Pat at:

                                gabbo@dreamt.org

    and pester him to GET OFF HIS LAZY FUCKING ASS and update the FAQ. Sounds
    like an idea? Or maybe someone more capable should just assume themselves
    as the New FAQ Maintainer? Any volunteers?

    Oh, hi Pat. Do you still read this thing?

    Rick Audet
    San Francisco

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:46:30 EST
    From: ShadowBor@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: What's the DT w/ JR URL?
    Message-ID: <434fbe0d.36aaebf6@aol.com>

            The title asks the qutestion. Thanks.

    Rob

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:16:37 -0200
    From: Cassiano Barbosa <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: full band scores
    Message-ID: <36AB0F25.16DF947C@uol.com.br>

    ytsejam@ax.com wrote:

    > hey hey, remember a while back (i think like over a year ago) someone found
    > a japanese company (young guitar? i dunno) that sold full band scores for DT
    > albums? i'm trying to find this company. can anyone help me out? moo.
    >
    > *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

    I believe it's Shinko Music. It's the company that produces these books,
    but I'm not sure they sell it overseas. They even got a web site:

    http://www.shinko-music.co.jp/foreign/

    Hope this helps...

    []'s
    Cassiano

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:13:14 +0100
    From: Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Jordan Rudes(s)
    Message-ID: <36AB2A7A.887646EC@ericsson.com>

    Hi all,

    on Vinnie Moore's 'Time odyssey' album, Jordan spells his last name with only
    ONE s (i.e., 'Jordan Rudes - Keyboards'). Is this just a typo or did he change
    the spelling after this album? I know I would be angry if my name was
    misspelled on an album I was playing on...

    /Thomas
    ________________________________________________________________________

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:14:21 +0100 (CET)
    From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
    To: Majesty <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: I&W Artwork
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901241513001.29314-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>

    I just noticed this:
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the little girl on the cover
    of I&W is holding in her hands? I can't figure it out....

    Thanks

    Cheers

    Zaphod

    ==============================================================================
    Peter Geerts *QUOTE*
    zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles)
    ICQ: 13122363
    Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium
    President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium
    ==============================================================================

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:59:48 EST
    From: EricPMetze@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Happy Birthday John Myung!!
    Message-ID: <c98245c.36ab3564@aol.com>

    Gosh, I hope he reads this...

    Happy birrrrrrthday toooooo yooooou...
    Happy birrrrrrthday toooooo yooooou...
    Happy birrrrrrthday John Myunnnnnng...
    Happy birrrrrrthday toooooo yooooou...

    [eriC]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:09:05 -0600
    From: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: 10 Favorites
    Message-ID: <000b01be47bc$403e48c0$d6dc1a93@tugmutton-.swt.edu>

    Ahoy,

                To respond to the '10 favorite bands' post:

    1. Rush
    2. Dream Theater
    3. Rollins Band

    4. Queensr=FFche
    5. Type O Negative
    6. Eric Johnson
    7. Mike Stern
    8. Joe Satriani
    9. Steve Vai
    10. Megadeth

    Well, the first three are probably in order of all time favorites, but 4-=
    10 change
    order quite frequently depending on whatever I'm listening to the most of=
     that week.
    Not to mention the loads of others like Superior & Lemur Voice, axemen li=
    ke Al
    DiMeola, jazzmen like John Coltrane and Charlie Parker. Anyway, this is a=
     basic
    picture.
                I hope we don't see *too* many threads from this thread sayin=
    g "How could
    you leave off <band name>?!?!" but I think it's inevitable. That's all fr=
    om the
    galley...

                                        - Capt. Wolfric Tugmutton tugmutton@t=
    oast.net

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:41:19 -0500
    From: "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: 10 fave bands
    Message-ID: <000901be47c0$c13c4cc0$02ce7ad1@artoo-detoo>

    > Hey guys. I'm just curious, it's not like I run a web page or
    >anything...
    >
    >What are your 10 favorite bands EVER, Dream Theater not included?

    Ooh. Tough question. Let me try.

    1) Rush
    2) Spock's Beard
    3) Yes ('70-'79)
    4) Genesis (all eras, '76-'80 in particular)
    [the remaining six in approximate order, i.e. subject to frequent change]
    5) Shadow Gallery
    6) Led Zeppelin
    7) Pink Floyd
    8) Dave Matthews Band
    9) Queensryche
    10) ELP or Renaissance (toss-up)

    -Chris

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:52:45 -0500
    From: "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: A (belated) review of the Philly show
    Message-ID: <001701be47c2$59f7eb80$02ce7ad1@artoo-detoo>

    And now for a review of one of the three best live shows I've ever seen:

    Setting: the Theater of Living Arts in center-city Philadelphia.
    The doors opened (late) at about 8:15 and we walked in and were surprised to
    find that they had set up chairs for us to sit in. I had gotten to the TLA
    at about 7:15, so I was able to sit in the second row in front of the left
    side of the stage (as you're facing it) closest to Jordan and Tony (which is
    exactly where I wanted to be). Syrinx sat in front of me.

    Jordan came on at about 9:30 and started playing "Osmosis", and Tony entered
    in shortly thereafter, picked up his chapman stick, and joined in the duet.
    They played together for a minute before John and then Mike entered in and
    added some soft touches of their own to the piece. And then BANG!!!!!
    Suddenly they broke into "Paradigm Shift" in all its glory! "Paradigm
    Shift" included some fantastic additions to its original form; it was better
    than on the album. They finished and we jumped up from our sitting
    positions to wildly applaud their performance (we all sat through the entire
    show, air drumming and shaking our heads, and we stood to applaud each
    piece). Mike stood at his mic behind his kit (a smaller kit than his usual
    touring kit, but still a fair size) and thanked us for coming, etc. He told
    us that the show would consist of songs from both the first album and the
    new album, and then suggested that we would know the next piece.

    We cheered as they broke into "Kindred Spirits", which, once again, had some
    cool additions to it--Jordan repeated the end part that he does using a
    piano setting, before going back and doing it for a third time on the
    regular synth setting which then took them to the finale. John introduced
    Jordan, and informed the three or four people present who DIDN'T know that
    Jordan had joined Dream Theater. Jordan was given many great cheers and
    shouts of approval ...even before John could get the words out of his mouth.

    [Someone else mentioned that Mike introduced Jordan at the Philly show and
    made a comment about platform shoes. I have no doubts that it was John who
    introduced Jordan as a new member of DT--and I must confess that I totally
    missed the comment about the platform shoes.]

    They then played a new tune called "Another Dimension" which was really
    cool--a very heavy track that really kicked. After that, Mike and Tony took
    a break while John and Jordan played their duet, "State of Grace". Mike and
    Tony returned as Jordan started into "Freedom of Speech". I'm quite sure
    the doctored up FoS as well, but I don't remember what the additions were.

    Jordan then went to his mic and introduced the next new piece entitled
    (something to the effect of) "By Accident" which kicked ass--it was a tune
    along the lines of "Universal Mind" in that it had several different parts
    to it, one of which was sort of Spanish sounding.

    At the end of this song, Jordan and John took a break, and Mike and Tony did
    a duet that totally blew my mind. Tony played his stick for the entire
    show, and had several spots during the show when the spotlight
    (metaphorically speaking) was on him and he kicked. But none of this
    compared to the jam he and Mike did--partly planned, it seemed, but
    definitely partly improvised--the interplay between the two of them was
    soooooooo cool. Mike played with plastic tubes instead of drum sticks. In
    any case, the jam eventually evolved into "Chris and Kevin's Excellent
    Adventure" w/o the wistles and whatnot. Jordan and John returned to the
    stage and CaKEA evolved into a bizarre jam. It began by Tony doing this
    weird distortion stuff on his stick, which John mimmicked with his guitar,
    all while Mike continued his banging, now with regular sticks. Jordan just
    provided background sound. Eventually it became a jam more along the lines
    of 3Min Warning, but I'd say it only lasted about five minutes, and then
    suddenly BLAM, they (on some signal from Mike) were suddenly playing
    "Universal Mind". They went through and it seemed like there would be no
    extra parts put into the song--and then they got to Jordan's key solo (at
    3:46 on the album) and everyone else left the stage. His piano solo went
    for a bit, and then he broke into Rudess Morgenstein Project material.
    Unaccompanied. I think most of what he took was from the last track, "Over
    the Edge". We just sat there (yet again) with our mouths hanging open. He
    finished his RMP bit and then returned to the piano solo, at which the other
    guys came back, and at the appropriate point Tony broke into his bass solo,
    and the song continued as usual. Phenominal!

    They ended there, but of course came out for an encore, which Mike said they
    saved for last because it was too tiring to play anywhere but at the end of
    the show. Can you say 'speed'? The name of the piece was "Acid Rain". It
    was, for me, a bit too much because when you play something like that live
    all the sounds just eventually mix together and it becomes noise--I think it
    will absolutely kick ass on the album though.

    I tell you, it may have been the best show I've ever seen. Jordan?
    Fantastic live; and he definitely does have a cool stage presence, as he
    really gets into his playing. Tony blew my mind. And Mike and John were
    their usual fantastic selves. Unbelievable show.

    Tony was funny, in that he took a few pictures of US between songs.

    And that's my review of the evening. I'll be really looking forward to
    Jordan's playing live w/ DT.

    -Chris

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:52:08 -0500
    From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: 10 fave bands
    Message-ID: <001e01be47c2$432e7c20$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>

    no, no, no. top 10 lists are explicitly forbidden on this list by Jesus,
    a.k.a. Skadz. I don't reccommend you guys continue on this course. moo.

    *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:53:00 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Derek tribute (yeah!!!!) / Balkan sucks / 10 fave bands
    Message-ID: <36AB5DFC.B807090B@mol.com.mk>

    > From: AnalogGal@aol.com
    > Subject: Nicky MP3s
    >
    > << Now when Derek is gone I think it would be cool and very worthy
    > to collect all Nightmare Cinema and Nicky Lemons songs available,
    > put 'em on MP3s and upload them somewhere
    >
    > Derek site already exists so it is a candidate but I'm not the
    > person to ask! :) Christina ....? >>
    >
    > Well, normally, I'd ask you to grovel a little more, but since
    > you've been so nice, I'll see what I can do. :)

    Ya better keep that on mind! :) How come no mp3 on Derek's site? :(

    Anyway, my question was not answered by anyone!!

    IS THERE any Nightmare CInema recording??? Or Nicky Lemons??? I only saw
    1 NL mp3 on some site but don't recall which...

    > From: "xxx" <hipodilski@usa.net>
    >
    > Why i can't go to ONLY ONE of these shows...ONLY ONE!!!!
    > Fucknig Bulgaria...
    > Sorry again.
    > Victor, the pissed off Bulgarian Jammer

    Hi bro! :)
    Who gave you right to speak this? Heck, now I AM depressed!!!!! Ya
    didn't have to remind me where I live, ya know! :)

    LTE live - that sounds too unreal!!! ;(((

    And reading all reviews here just makes me more and more suicidal!

    10 fave bands of mine (including soloist):

    Beatles, Brand X, Jethro Tull, Yes, Focus, Deep Purple, Stevie Ray
    Vaughan, Steve Vai, Liquid Tension Experimet ( :), Return to Forever

    -- 
    

    CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________

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    Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:08:37 +0300 From: Sami Poimala <spoimala@st.jyu.fi> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Many ways to tell if you're a prog rocker Message-ID: <33735A15.8441A370@st.jyu.fi>

    Hi all!

    Since I've read many funny definitions of being prog, I made a collection of them all. It can be seen at http://www.jyu.fi/~spoimala/prog.htm. If you have more definitions, feel free to send them to me!

    Cheers, Sami a finnish prog rocker :)

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:55:31 -0700 From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: re: FUCK!!! Message-ID: <199901241809.LAA20353@ganymede.aculink.net>

    Hey Victor, you're not alone. I wish I could go to the shows too, but nobody cool ever seems to play Colorado. Maybe it's the thin air ;o)

    -Geoffrey

    "...we exist in a world where the fear of illusion is real..."

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:00:40 -0700 From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: re: damn Message-ID: <199901241809.LAA20432@ganymede.aculink.net>

    Actually Trent, there is a DT union, and I hope all card carrying members remember to submit their dues to my home address via certified check :o)

    -Geoffrey

    "...we exist in a world where the fear of illusion is real..."

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:09:51 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> Subject: Re: FAQ Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9901241309230.24988-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>

    > and pester him to GET OFF HIS LAZY FUCKING ASS and update the FAQ. Sounds > like an idea? Or maybe someone more capable should just assume themselves > as the New FAQ Maintainer? Any volunteers?

    I volunteer to be the new maintainer.

    - mike.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:13:06 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: I&W Artwork Message-ID: <36AB70C2.37EB84B8@mindless.com>

    Peter Geerts wrote:

    > I just noticed this: > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the little girl on the cover > of I&W is holding in her hands? I can't figure it out.... >

    I think its in the faq, but isnt it a mirror, and it looks a lot like the mirror on the cover of awake..

    "[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci

    In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:37:40 -0600 From: Hypermax <hypermax@win.bright.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Top 10 bands Message-ID: <36AB6873.AF1@win.bright.net>

    ok, I'll take a shot at this one. (in no particuar order) 1. Machine Head 2. Metallica (their old shit pushed some limits) 3. Stevie Ray Vaughn 4. Black Sabbath 5. Led Zeppelin 6. Joe Satriani 7. PANTERA (set the vibe for metal in the 90's) 8. AC/DC (wrote the same song 100 different ways) :o) 9. John McLaughlin (this guy is incredible) 10. TOOL (totally unique band, with some very creative music)

    > Hey guys. I'm just curious, it's not like I run a web page or >anything... > >What are your 10 favorite bands EVER, Dream Theater not included? > >I'll be thinking about mine, then I'll send them to you. > > >------------ --

    ******************************** *Machine Head - Blood For Blood* ********************************

    http://members.tripod.com/~Hypermax/index.html Guitar Tabs, News Metal Postcard Shop Pictures, MP3s

    -Beatings are what you'll inherit this time- -Fist bait, your new name- -Your pain is my shrine- -Pulverize and break- -Determination- -Pleasure I negate- -Your pain brings me salvation- -Give, Re, Spect- -Cause the rule is blood for blood-

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