YTSEJAM Digest 4615
Today's Topics:
1) OPERA:NEW ITALIAN PROG BAND!!
by "Dario" <ciccio@nf.infotel.it>
2) LTE Philly: New Pics
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
3) LTE Philly: Link to Pics(oops)
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
4) Met II recorded?
by "Antoni Krasinski" <kran@ichf.edu.pl>
5) top 10 list
by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
6) Re: I&W Artwork
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
7) New Superior CD
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
8) Re: New Superior CD
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
9) NDTC (S3 and sound)
by "Igor Davidov" <div@ipb.redline.ru>
10) Gordian Knot?
by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
11) Re: FAQ -- Important -- don't skip!
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
12) Re: Gordian Knot?
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
13) Re: FAQ
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
14) Re: Light bulbs and such
by Darth1@aol.com
15) Journey Tab NDTC
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
16) Top 10 bands...
by "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br>
17) for what it's worth
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:56:28 +0100
From: "Dario" <ciccio@nf.infotel.it>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: OPERA:NEW ITALIAN PROG BAND!!
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Hi dear friend
This is Dario of OPERA.
There's a new prog band in the italian scene
I recomend you the check out some demo samples and info at:
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Wing/4006/
Any comment and suggestions are welcome ......
Hi Dario
STAY PROG !!!!!
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:13:31 -0500
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: LTE Philly: New Pics
Message-ID: <003401be47cd$a1eec480$514320d8@Kez>
Hey all,
I just surfed over to Tony Levin's page, and he's posted more of his on stage
pics, this time from TLA in Philly. Go there and check them out. Glenn and I
made the one crowd shot from the end of the show. Glenn has the Metal Tunes
shirt on, with arms outstretched, and I'm right behind him in the denim shirt,
mouth wide open in mid scream. It's very cool.
/me wants more LTE.
Kez
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:16:41 -0500
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: LTE Philly: Link to Pics(oops)
Message-ID: <003901be47ce$13455ae0$514320d8@Kez>
Here's the link to the picture:
http://www.papabear.com/photos/lte/philly.jpg
Here's the link to the rest of them: http://www.papabear.com/diarylte.html
Enjoy,
Kez
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:06:05 +0100
From: "Antoni Krasinski" <kran@ichf.edu.pl>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Met II recorded?
Message-ID: <E58104527D@alfa.ichf.edu.pl>
Hey, they really recorded MetII? In all interviews Mike was telling us,
that they played it only once and never recorded it. When did they do that?
> Mike Portnoy
>
> Me: "Mike, the new material sounds great."
> Mike: "Thanks a lot. Ya know there's gonna be a 17 minute song on the
> new LTE CD."
> Me: "Is it gonna be a jam?"
> Mike: "No. A full length song!"
> Me: "Is there gonna be a jam like last time?"
> Mike: "Yeah."
>
> Me: "Is Metropolis II gonna be on the next Dream Theater CD?"
> Mike: "Well, we already have it recorded, and it is a possibility."
> Me: "All the fans want it to be."
> Mike: "I know."
>
Antoni Krasinski kran@ichf.edu.pl
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:47:20 -0700
From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: top 10 list
Message-ID: <199901241948.MAA00186@ganymede.aculink.net>
I swore I'd never do one of these again, but here goes...
1) Dead Can Dance
2) Marillion
3) Fields of the Nephilim
4) Joe Jackson
5) IQ
6) Gentle Giant
7) Yes
8) King Crimson
9) Ozric Tentacles
10) The Tea Party
-Geoffrey
"...we exist in a world where the fear of illusion is real..."
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:52:46 +0100 (CET)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: I&W Artwork
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901242050200.3206-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Carlos Alfaro wrote:
> I think its in the faq, but isnt it a mirror, and it looks a lot like the mirror
> on the cover of awake..
If it's in the faq, I must have missed it, and I know the faq more or less
by heart by now... :-)My first thought indeed was that it's a mirror, but
if you look closely you'll see it's more irregularly shaped, UNLIKE
Awake's mirror... Hell I have no idea.
Cheers
Zaphod
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Peter Geerts *QUOTE*
zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles)
ICQ: 13122363
Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium
President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:54:28 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: New Superior CD
Message-ID: <CB366B2843EBD111AA9600104B6A9EF0AA78ED@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
OK, many people on the jam have chimed in with their opinions on the new
Superior CD. What follows is my opinion to throw in a little diversion to
the "I love Derek/I hate Derek/You're an a-hole" thing. I guess that it's
at least DTC ....... be careful what you ask for .......
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
First off, I love "Behind". Different moods and very heavy sounds, mostly
progressive. I have had it for a long time having bought it right when
Basmer made some available to the Ytsejam. Like some others, on the first
listen of Younique, I was kind of disappointed. It was *too* different. It
didn't sound like Superior anymore. Too bad, I said. How wrong I was.
Younique simply takes more than a couple of listens to appreciate. And most
things in life that are meaningful in the long run usually take a while to
appreciate. Sadly in this day and age many people are only seeking that
instant gratification thing. Sure, there are the backup female singers on
one song and a jazzy and funky passage here and there but on the whole, it's
still Superior. The unmistakable guitar sound is still there (but sounds
fuller/heavier than on Behind). And the odd thing is that over time,
Younique doesn't sound that different from Behind.
Favorite songs for me are God's Funeral, Nothing and Detect: Myself. Maybe
not coincidentally, these are the longer songs of the disk which I tend to
prefer. God's Funeral mixes the different textures well to highlight the
heavy passages. Nothing is a little more introspective musically and
emphasizes the keyboards. But even the 3:35 opener of Not With Me is a
really cool quick kick in the ass.
If you liked Behind and can afford to give this a few listens, this CD is
TOPS !! I am pretty sure that it is available at the usual set of import
warehouses in the US.
http://truemetal.org/superior/
Lastly, since I just *had* to get the Japanese version of Younique (which
has a truly interesting and significantly rearranged acoustic version of
"Why") I have the "domestic" version for sale to anyone who promises to give
it at least three full listens. $10 postpaid in the US. And, if you give
it a few listens, I guarantee that you will like it or your money back
!!!!!!
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:47:19 -0500
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: New Superior CD
Message-ID: <006401be47da$bc7242c0$514320d8@Kez>
> http://truemetal.org/superior/
>
>Lastly, since I just *had* to get the Japanese version of Younique (which
>has a truly interesting and significantly rearranged acoustic version of
>"Why") I have the "domestic" version for sale to anyone who promises to give
>it at least three full listens. $10 postpaid in the US. And, if you give
>it a few listens, I guarantee that you will like it or your money back
>!!!!!!
>
>Mark Metzger
>mmetzger@comversens.com
>
This is an offer that you CAN'T refuse! If you don't own this, you should,
and this is a very good chance to.
And if you don't like it, I'll double your money
back...............................................not.
But I do believe if given the proper chance, this one will be in your rotation
for a long time to come. Mark pretty much described how I felt about it after
the first listen. I think I even made an ass of myself by posting something
to the effect of "What's all the fuss?" Needless to say, this is now one of
my favorite CD's of all time. I love the different styles and twists and
turns. It just rocks my world.
OK, I'm done.
Bernd, where's my check? :) And when can I see you live in the US?
Kez
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:51:34 +0300
From: "Igor Davidov" <div@ipb.redline.ru>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: NDTC (S3 and sound)
Message-ID: <199901242049.XAA29023@ipb.redline.ru>
Hi there, jammers
Sorry for an off-topic question (but it's close)
Does any 1 have any problems playing MP3s and scrolling your
screen at the same time ytsejam
ytsejam
ytsejam
(jerking sound and so on...) with S3 64V+ video adapter?
Or with any other S3 product?
Got any solutions?
~careless div
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:21:10 -0700 (MST)
From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Gordian Knot?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990124141856.9173C-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu>
Sorry if this has been asked before....
CDNow has no clue, not surprisingly. Where oh where can someone find
Gordian Knot? Any suggestions?
--MATt
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:10:36 -0500
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: FAQ -- Important -- don't skip!
Message-ID: <36AB9A5C.99136705@frontierlogic.com>
> From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
> Subject: Re: FAQ
>
<SNIP>
> and pester him to GET OFF HIS LAZY FUCKING ASS and update the FAQ. Sounds
> like an idea? Or maybe someone more capable should just assume themselves
> as the New FAQ Maintainer? Any volunteers?
<SNIP>
*************************************************************************
****** Folks -- D-MAN is dictating this to me on the telephone:
*******
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Dear Folks,
As most of you have probably figured out by now, I've been without a
computer for quite a while. However, I hope to be back online within the
next couple of weeks. I would be happy to re-adopt the FAQ, if you the
jammers, and you Pat, think this would be in the best interest of the
band. I know Pat personally and I know that he's a great guy. I hope
this doesn't become a name-calling battle. However, I would like to see
the best interests of Dream Theater addressed. Once, again, until I get
back online, I am not able to read the jam, but a week or two from now,
If you guys want me to take over the faq again, I will. Hopefully, this
can spur some open and mature discussions.
- D-Man (through Mojo's fingers)
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:09:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gordian Knot?
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9901241709200.8412-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> CDNow has no clue, not surprisingly. Where oh where can someone find
> Gordian Knot? Any suggestions?
Why not get it from the label that makes it? The Laser's edge.
- mike.
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erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:22:18 -0500
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: FAQ
Message-ID: <36AB9D1A.94397B8B@frontierlogic.com>
Hey Jammers,
I figured I can get into this conversation, at the ground floor.
Especially, since I actually typed D-Man's response.
I can not speak for Pat. I met him once, a long time ago at the YtseCon
- LaGuardia, or whatever the hell it was (Ytsecon 3???). However, I
have noticed that the FAQ is lacking some serious updating. Especially,
in light of the recent changes to Dream Theater, we need someone that
will dig out the appropriate facts from the rubble. If Pat is capable
of doing that, I wouldn't know. I do know Chris Merlo is.
I for one, think Chris Merlo is an excellent person to re-assume FAQ
responsibility. If Pat is willing to step aside, Chris has my vote.
Chris's FAQ style is used by other FAQ maintainers on the net. That's
how good he was as FAQ Maintainter. Other people emulated his work.
That shouldn't be taken lightly.
As for Pat, let me say again, I don't know him. I have absolutely no
intention of doing him a disservice. I am simply saying that the FAQ
needs to be addressed more often. If Pat can't offer more attention than
he already has, another person should come in to give the FAQ the
service it requires. Let's remember that this FAQ isn't for the
maintainers glory, but for Dream Theater's. (I sound like that wacko guy
in Indiana Jones - Last Crusade)
Anyway, there's my $51.50.
-m o j o m a n
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:08:52 EST
From: Darth1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Light bulbs and such
Message-ID: <5b51411f.36aba804@aol.com>
> Q: How many list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 1,331:
LOL! All of that was soooo true! My post proves it also |-)
Josh S.
Da=AEth0ne=99
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:52:13 PST
From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Cc: bostonjam@dreamt.org
Subject: Journey Tab NDTC
Message-ID: <19990124235213.15161.qmail@hotmail.com>
Sorry for lack of DT content.
Does anyone know where I can find the tab for the song Remember Me by
Journey off of the Armageddon soundtrack? Or could possibly any of you
tabbing virtuousos try and tab it out for me =)? I've tried the search
engines and come up with jack. Just wondering if anyone you guys could
knew where there were some hard core journey sites.
"Wild" Bill
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:09:08 -0200
From: "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Top 10 bands...
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3- Led Zeppelin
4- Deep Purple
5- Black Sabbath
6- Bruce Dickinson
7- Van Halen
8- Yngwie Malmsteen
9- Dixie Dregs
10- Joe Satriani
If somebody thinks that's shit, let me know and we'll discuss that...
Needless to say, DT's number 1 ever...
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:08:46 -0500
From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: for what it's worth
Message-ID: <v01540b02b2d13801c8be@[128.197.7.168]>
(No, not the Buffalo Springfield song.)
>Here I would liek to ask you all somehting. What is actually defined as
>prog. rock??
There's a pretty decent book out called _The Progressive Rock
Files_ by Jerry Lucky (published by Collector's Guide Publishing). Lucky
is apparently a well-known radio personality and a major progressive rock
fan. The book contains a free CD including what are apparently the first
known recordings of Pink Floyd, from the film _Tonight Let's All Make Love
In London_.
Anyway, the book includes a definition of progressive rock provided
by the author. Here it is, from the fourth edition (published last year)
and (barely) edited by me:
Progressive rock is music that incorporates:
complex arrangements usually featuring intricate keyboard and guitar
playing; songs predominantly on the longish side, but structured, rarely
improvised; a mixture of loud passages, soft passages, and musical
crescendos to add to the dynamics of the arrangements; the use of a
mellotron or string synth to simulate an orchestra backing; the possible
inclusion of live symphony orchestra backing; extended instrumental solos,
perhaps involving some improvisation; the inclusion of musical styles from
other than a rock format; a blending of acoustic, electric and electronic
instruments where each plays a vital role in translating the emotion of
compositions which typically contain more than one mood; multi-movement
compositions that may or may not return to a musical theme--in some cases
the end section may bear little resemblence to the first part of the song;
and compositions created from unrelated parts, i.e. Genesis' "Supper's
Ready."
I certainly don't agree with all of it (the mellotron reference is
obviously outdated), but I think it's reasonably accurate and definitely
broad.
As far as my ten favorite artists (subject to change, in no particular
order after the first one or two, and arranged in a way that they are not a
top-anything list): Rush, Queensryche, Kiss, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Queen,
Genesis, Bruce Springsteen, and Led Zeppelin, plus the somewhat obscure
band Phantom Blue that I've mentioned from time to time (as if anybody
would remember). Some of these might change next week (or this week, for
that matter). Led Zeppelin is currently occupying a spot normally held by
the Beatles.
Jeff Falk
jefffalk@bu.edu
now playing: Bruce Springsteen _Tracks_
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