YTSEJAM Digest 4621
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Top 10 Bands
by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
2) Re: Top 10 Bands
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
3) Re: Top 10 Bands
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
4) ELO / Nearfest
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
5) the lists
by "Dr. X-avior" <drxavior@hotmail.com>
6) who assholes?
by "Harold Richards" <harich@hotmail.com>
7) Vote...
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
8) Re: A (belated) review of the Philly show
by JamesAhab@aol.com
9) I rule :)
by skadz@hotmail.com
10) Re: My favoritest bands because you really care...
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
11) Re: Vote...
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4620
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
13) Re: I hate aol, but hey, my comp hates me
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4617
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
15) A New DT List?
by IceQD@aol.com
16) A New DT List Part 2
by IceQD@aol.com
17) Re: Met II recorded?
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
18) CyberDuke, LTE, minor DT content
by Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
19) So I heard the _Acid Rain_ MP3
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@antonia.webhost.cl>
20) Great Kat for sale-No Derek Content
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
21) Nightown Nostalgia boot, Lie Cd single
by MentalHunk@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:38:08 -0600
From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands
Message-ID: <36AD46B0.6B82CF4C@wavetech.net>
>but both i and chris already mentioned nicely that top 10 lists are a >no no. it continued. i think he was not out of line. moo.
I dont care how many people asked nicely, that doesn't give him
the right to be that rude to the list. Besides, he sounds like
a baby crying to mommy cuz he cant get his way. Fankly, it's
annoying.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:50:17 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands
Message-ID: <00e901be48e7$5efae9e0$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>
>a baby crying to mommy cuz he cant get his way. Fankly, it's
>annoying.
as opposed to the endless streams of top 10 lists? better one "rude" e-mail
than the dozens of e-mails he was complaining about.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:53:36 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands
Message-ID: <36ad4a4f0b7e001@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding To: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
Original Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:54:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>
> >but both i and chris already mentioned nicely that top 10 lists are a
> >no no. it continued. i think he was not out of line. moo.
>
> I dont care how many people asked nicely, that doesn't give him
> the right to be that rude to the list. Besides, he sounds like
> a baby crying to mommy cuz he cant get his way. Fankly, it's
> annoying.
Okay, I responded to this guy privately, apparently he didn't feel that was
sufficient. See, you don't get it. If I were "crying to mommy," as you so
eloquently put it, I would have been bitching to Skadz. If you're going to
be a moron, at least please attempt to think your analogies through.
This will be my last public contribution, because it's pointless.
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:59:06 -0500
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: ELO / Nearfest
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990125235906.00977140@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>Wow! According to Jerry Lucky's definition, ELO is prog. Alert the media.
Check out the boxed set "Supernatural Fairy Tales -- The Progressive Rock
Years". You'll find ELO's "Roll Over Beethoven" nestled snugly between
Genesis "The Musical Box" and "New World" by the Strawbs (Rick Wakeman's
pre-Yes band if I'm remembering my prog-trivia...)...
Speaking of progrock, check out the friggin' band line-up due to play
Nearfest!
http://ghostland.com/nearfest/bands.html
IQ, Spock's Beard, Mastermind, Ice Age, etc. Yowza -- this is an event not
to miss. And, unlike some other east-coast festivals of late, this looks
<shudder> well-planned. Symphony-X was goddamn amazing at Powermad '98, eh?
Brian
===================================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
His Faithful Bootleg Page:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:19:38 PST
From: "Dr. X-avior" <drxavior@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: the lists
Message-ID: <19990126051938.16338.qmail@hotmail.com>
Just send your top 10s to me. I'll try to compile the info and send
the results to the jam and maybe someone can put it on their page.
Thanks for the idea Refugee. UACM would be great.
Anyway, I thought it was great to see fave bands instead of griping, but
I see the point. Better one post than 100.
Dr. X-avior
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:24:11 PST
From: "Harold Richards" <harich@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: who assholes?
Message-ID: <19990126052411.23828.qmail@hotmail.com>
Brian Hayden said:
>Listen up, assholes: send your faves to this guy personally. Then, >he
can
>put them on a website or something. Then, the 1 or 2 people on this
>list
>who might give a shit about what you like can look at it there.
>Keep it off the damn list.-Brian
Brian, you have no right calling everyone assholes. So don't read the
stupid things. It's stupid to bar that discussion anyway, just as long
as it's not a constant terror.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:49:55 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Vote...
Message-ID: <36ad57820da9001@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
I've decided, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
So, in that spirit, I'd like to offer up....
THE FIRST ANNUAL YTSEMORON AWARDS!
That's right. Your chance to vote for your favorite idiot. List your top
ten ytsedumbasses, either right here on the list or to me privately.
Results will be compiled on a point system and posted on my website. Any
nomineees with hotmail addresses will recieve ten extra points.
Let's see some serious voting!
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:01:30 EST
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: A (belated) review of the Philly show
Message-ID: <5b5562b8.36ad5a3a@aol.com>
>< At the end of this song, Jordan and John took a break, and Mike and Tony
did a duet that totally blew my mind. Tony played his stick for the entire
show, and had several spots during the show when the spotlight (metaphorically
speaking) was on him and he kicked. But none of this compared to the jam he
and Mike did--partly planned, it seemed, but definitely partly improvised--the
interplay between the two of them was soooooooo cool. Mike played with
plastic tubes instead of drum sticks. ><
I was wondering what those were. I think he was holding the hot rods upside
down.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:11:53 -0500
From: skadz@hotmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: I rule :)
Message-ID: <199901260611.BAA26995@optical.mindstorm.com>
and don't forget it
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:14:15 PST
From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: My favoritest bands because you really care...
Message-ID: <19990126061416.21714.qmail@hotmail.com>
Chris wrote this here sentence, which prompted a response:
>Soon Skadz will unsub me too, and then I'll have to get a hotmail
>address (the default provider for all of your Ytsejam Refugee needs).
I must say, I'm almost offended by this b/c I'm a hotmail user. But
then again, I don't post a thousand messages a day (I think I've topped
out at five in one day, but who knows?) about stupid inane flames,
mainly b/c no one gives two shits about my opinion when they could flame
someone for actually being happy that Derek isn't in the band anymore.
Altogether a funny post man; had me laughing my ass off.
*Trent
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:14:10 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Vote...
Message-ID: <36ad5d3211dd001@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> THE FIRST ANNUAL YTSEMORON AWARDS!
One further clarification...voting will end at midnight Pacific time, next
Wednesday.
So...get to it!
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:13:14 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4620
Message-ID: <19990126061314.29175.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com>
Oh so *we* are the incompetent ones. This dude can't even unsubscribe
from a list *he* chose to sign up too so he could receive all these
digests that are 'clogging up his mailbox'.
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:00:31 EST
> From: Megadave25@aol.com
> To: ytsejam@axnet.net
> Subject: Hey fuckers.
> Message-ID: <3ded837a.36ad21bf@aol.com>
>
>
> Hey there.
> Thank you for not fucking listening to my last five hundred
requests to
> unfucking subscribe. You people are worthless. I would really love
to jerk
> off with you and talk about Dream theater, but unfortunately, I only
> masturbate on my own. I want you to all blow me. I would really
appreciate
> it if you would stop clogging up my goddamn mailbox with your shitty
letters.
> I have gotten to the point of utter disgust where if these were actual
> leaflets, I would promptly burn them upon receipt of the devil's
letters that
> you choose to send me. If you even read this, which I know you
incompetant
> fuckheads will never do, you can shove this response up your fanclub
letter-
> mailing asses. Have a wonderful day.
> Megadave25@aol.com
==
John
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:18:00 PST
From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: I hate aol, but hey, my comp hates me
Message-ID: <199901260618.WAA17351@law-f70.hotmail.com>
>hi jammers,
>
>been a while since ive seen the jam ( ok so im behind about 17 jams ).
so
>anyone care to sum it up ? so far ive gotten Ibanez needs a
tweakin,brian's
>pissed off again, skadz is no where to be found, I STILL CANT find
5YIALT at a
>decent price, the songbook for FII has my name on it..and Sam Goody's
for
>24.95 ( robbery, id say ),the derek flame is getting taken care of ( i
think
>),and someone desperately wants Gordion Knot,and that the Faq is
screwed on
>some of the other jammer's comps/ and my comp still sucks. :)
>
>tell me if im any where close to understanding you guys
Holy shit, I could've been gone for two weeks and just read this one
post and be caught up on everything except for The Flaming Tremors thing
or whatever that band is called.
*Trent
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:11:12 +0700
From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4617
Message-ID: <36AD94C0.A2DE526E@pacific.net.ph>
> DTC: Petrucci plays some Star Wars (Vader's Theme, I believe it's called) at
> the beginning of Voices on OIAL.
If I'm not mistaken, that little theme is the leitmotif for Ben Kenobi
and the Force. I don't really know if it has a name.
-Rob
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:18:28 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Cc: korgx3@safelink.net, Portnoy420@aol.com, Calvin6S@aol.com,
Subject: A New DT List?
Message-ID: <57556cd5.36ad8864@aol.com>
Hey folks
We found out who suggested the new DT List and that person is Calvin6S@aol.com
so, before finally departing this list we would like to offer suggestions for
the content of the new list so that everyone who is interested can be
involved.
We think it should be a music 'information station' with a positive vibe.
(1) Mainly about Dream Theater and their music, but also news/information
about other bands/solo acts and ex-members of bands.
(2) Nothing long winded, post in sections (part 2 next time, etc) or give a
website address where further info can be found by those interested.
(3) Encourage musos themselves to post info (or those who run their websites)
eg Mike Portnoy about gigs, other projects, albums, etc.
(4) Female musos to be encouraged to participate, whatever their age and
inexperience, so they can learn more without being bitched at and told to shut
up. We need yin and yang!
(5) Info on rock and muso magazines and extracts of articles, worldwide (with
website info).
(6) Post details of mp3, boots, music gear (mainly website addresses?)
(7) Related info (books, films, conventions, tribute bands, etc) to be
included.
(8) Info about good music other than prog/rock to be included eg., if Madonna
does a great album which she just has.
(9) Have a regular 'non-profit' exchange forum for musical rarities etc, 'I'll
show you mine if you show me yours'.
(10) Absolutely no Bitche Jam flaming of artists or members of the list.
The person who runs the list should have plenty of TIME and INTEREST available
to police it and send a warning at the FIRST SIGN of a Bitche Jam thread.
However, we don't suggest a censored (moderated) list.
Thanks for your time
Fire & Ice
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:39:16 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Cc: Portnoy420@aol.com, korgx3@safelink.net, drxavior@hotmail.com
Subject: A New DT List Part 2
Message-ID: <3f838f32.36ad8d44@aol.com>
Wow!!
After receiving a reply from Mike Portnoy himself (who receives copyright for
the name Bitche Jam) we would like to add something to the suggestions we made
in 'A New DT List'
Perhaps we could retrieve the Majesty of the Ytsejam and get back along the
lines suggested in our first message? All those in favour say Aye!
Plus, yeah it would be a good idea to compile results of fave band lists, are
you still willing drxavior@hotmail.com?
Finally, a 'faq consortium' is a good idea and perhaps Skadz would also like
some help in maintaining the list to its best advantage? Ideas?
Fire & Ice
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:41:28 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Met II recorded?
Message-ID: <199901260941.LAA09911@xyz.estcard.ee>
> From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
Me:
> >sucked not to have all the goodies on Falling Into Infinity. (Talking
> >about that Knife song, the Where Are You Now wail, the Speak To Me part
Matej:
> You should start paying more attention to details :) They made it
> clear that NONE of the B-sides will be recorded for the new album.
You should start paying more attention to details. I made it clear how
much it sucked not to have those songs on Falling Into Infinity (as we all
know), so - here it cometh - it would suck just as much not to have those
RESPECTIVE new songs on the new album just because one long tune (that's
not entirely new anyway) takes up all that space.
I wasn't talking about having Falling Into Infinity B-sides on the new,
upcoming album, which, given time and effort, should be pretty obvious.
Raitz,
back from watching Farty Towels, i.e. Fawlty Towers
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:05:08 +0100
From: Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: CyberDuke, LTE, minor DT content
Message-ID: <000c01be4913$5e0450e0$0af008a4@stdevil>
Dusko wrote:
>I have their debut "Na Vrv Brda Vrba Mrda" actually and it's a must
>have!
>
>
>CyberDuke
Ej Dusko. Ovo bi moralo da bude "Na VRH Brda Vrba Mrda" jeli? :))
To everyone. So JR joines. I watched and listened him live in Italy in 1998.
RMP. End they kicked some serious ass. Haven't listened to LTE, because it's
hard to get it. Will try though, or get some MP3.
However I won't post my 10 fav. bands because I don't wan't to clutter
the jam with that!
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:04:11 -0300 (GMT+3)
From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@antonia.webhost.cl>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: So I heard the _Acid Rain_ MP3
Message-ID: <199901261204.JAA20012@antonia.webhost.cl>
.. and I am SO impressed.
I don't care if the rest of LTE II is just covers of songs from the
Backstreet Boys and/or Spice Girls - ACID RAIN, IMNAAHO, is worth the 14
bucks the CD will probably cost. I'm buying it.
-- MIGUEL FARAH // miguel@webhost.cl #include <disclaimer.h> // http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer------------------------------
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:05:36 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Great Kat for sale-No Derek Content Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3AE4@ms.kallback.com>
Great Kat-Guitar Goddess-4 tracks 7:50 Great Kat-Bloody Vivaldi-4 tracks 7:23 Great Kat-Digital Beethoven on Cyberspeed-CDRom+ 5 tracks playable on regular cd player Includes Screen Saver, Kat TV, 40 composer biographies, Virtual CyberOrchestra, Music Videos, Landscapes, Animations, Soundtracks, quizzes, games, etc.
All for $13 ppd. in US. (New $24) Warning: This is some scary shit.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:51:28 EST From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Nightown Nostalgia boot, Lie Cd single Message-ID: <2333928c.36ae6310@aol.com>
Hey Jammers...
Just acquired a really great sounding boot of the full June 22nd Rotterdam fan club gig .....Of course a good majority of this is on the fan club X-mas Cd, but this one is all from Rotterdam, no Paris tracks...it's cool cause it has Dt talking to the crowd between songs, etc....I highly recommend this one if you see it....here's the tracklisting.... ( starred tunes are from same gig as the X-mas cd ) Disc One Introduction Speak to Me Lifting Shadows Off a Dream * Hey You The Silent Man * To Live Forever * Cover My Eyes * Another Day Take Away My Pain Wait for Sleep excerpt of Mean Street * Eve *
Disc Two Anna Lee CArpe Diem Hollow Years excerpt of Paradigm Shift The Way it Used to Be Bad * Peruvian Skies The Silent Man * (yes, another one) Trial of Tears
Also, I have a Lie cd single for sale or trade.... I figure either about 50 bucks or else a few cd-r's in trade would be ok... e-mail me if interested Tom
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