YTSEJAM Digest 4623
Today's Topics:
1) Liquid Dream Tension Theater / Ptacek's favoritest bands
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
2) Flamers Beware!
by IceQD@aol.com
3) Re: A New DT List Part 2
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) LTE Show at the Roxy
by TTubbiola@aol.com
5) idiot vote
by "Ambassador Nelaskon" <cyaron@mailcity.com>
6) Rude top 10 post
by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
7) top 10
by Sebast87@aol.com
8) Re: I hate aol, but hey, my comp hates me
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
9) Flaming idiots
by "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pfc-corp.com>
10) Need advice about keyboard
by O-P Komonen <komoolli@trade.hamkk.fi>
11) Useless NDTC Crap
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
12) LTE/DiMeola
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4620
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
14) Younique
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
15) Looks Like We're Staying Then
by IceQD@aol.com
16) Re: A New DT List?
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
17) Interesting
by "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
18) hey
by blex@cybrzn.com
19) Re: Laser's Edge / Portnoy's response
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:38:11 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Liquid Dream Tension Theater / Ptacek's favoritest bands
Message-ID: <36AE19A3.58102BA0@home.com>
BABS wrote:
> Anyways,
> reading the following post hit on an insecurity/concern of mine as well.
>
> > > I'm fretting over what the new album will be like. Sure sure, I
> > > fucking LOVE LTE! yeah! But with almost the same members, and making the
> > > album the same way, in the same time period, I'm afraid it will lack the
> > > depth and personality of Dream Theater.
OK. I see where you're coming from here. I love LTE, but I certainly
don't want the next DT CD to be an LTE style thing either. I do assume
SOME of the sound from LTE will carry over, which is great - but I also
want "DT99" to be a fuller, deeper, more meaningful work than LTE's
"Jammin' chops" kinda feel.
OK, here's my question: Just because DT is gonna write and record at
the same time, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're making the
album "in the same time period" (a week) as LTE (as stated above), does
it? I mean, is it conceivable that they'll be in the studio for 2 or 3
weeks writing or something?
Also a note: Assuming that MET p.II will be on the new disc (and I'd
practically bet my life on it), keep in mind that's already 25 or so
minutes written there. So that leaves only 45 minutes left to write if
they're gonna make another 70 minute CD. And who knows, they may have a
few more songs already roughly written, or conceptualized or whatever.
- - - - -
Chris Ptacek said:
> You know, come to think of it, maybe my top 50 list doesn't
> belong here,
Point well taken.
> but you're all getting ready to send flames to
> the list (not to private e-mail, because you have a keyboard and a reply
> button, so what the fuck?)
*LOL* Ahhhhh.....the whole post was funny as hell, but this part killed
me. :)
--- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:01:41 EST From: IceQD@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Flamers Beware! Message-ID: <3e6d4d8b.36ae1f25@aol.com>
This is just to let anyone else out there thinking of sending us a flame that the same thing will happen to them as happened to Brian - it will be copied to the jam ........
Thank you
Fire and Ice Kicking Ass
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:38:54 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: A New DT List Part 2 Message-ID: <199901262138.NAA17353@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., IceQD@aol.com thus begged: > >Wow!! > >After receiving a reply from Mike Portnoy himself (who receives copyright for >the name Bitche Jam) we would like to add something to the suggestions we made >in 'A New DT List' > >Perhaps we could retrieve the Majesty of the Ytsejam and get back along the >lines suggested in our first message? All those in favour say Aye! > >Fire & Ice
Considering there were attempts at a policed list before, which died in burning flames... I'd have to say... I dunno how long a list like that would survive... but go for it!!
Whatever happened to Voices and stuff?
LONG LIVE THE BITCHE JAM!! <clanking armor>
-The Doc
-- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:44:34 EST From: TTubbiola@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LTE Show at the Roxy Message-ID: <fc5b37e5.36ae4552@aol.com>
I just got my tickets!!! WOO HOO!!!
The guy said they are going very fast. So, if you're waiting, DON'T WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!
I'll be the large gentleman with short hair and mustache (if it fills in by then. . .) wearing a black dress shirt and carrying a Corona. Stop me and say hi!!!
C-ya, Tom
/me thinks I need more Wasabi for my lunch. . .
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:28:40 -0000 From: "Ambassador Nelaskon" <cyaron@mailcity.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: idiot vote Message-ID: <FDMNNKGJHGGMCAAA@mailcity.com>
I think anybody voting for "top idiots" is the worst thing that could happen to this list. After all we've been put through already, we don't need to make it even worse.
Nelaskon ECA
Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:51:27 -0600 From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Rude top 10 post Message-ID: <36AE54FF.6D41209C@wavetech.net>
>Okay, I responded to this guy privately, apparently he didn't feel that >was >sufficient. See, you don't get it. If I were "crying to mommy," as you >so >eloquently put it, I would have been bitching to Skadz. If you're going >to >be a moron, at least please attempt to think your analogies through.
Well, I stand corrected. Judging by the "lack" of continuing contributions to the top 10 thread it looks like your rude email worked. Genius.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:18:30 EST From: Sebast87@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: top 10 Message-ID: <88da59ed.36adb296@aol.com>
Hi everybody I'm a new French user of the list. Since I am there I've learnt a lot of things, that's great! Here is my top 10 : 1. Dream Theater 2. Angra 3. Rhapsody 3. Symphony X 4. Savatage 5. Stratovarius 6. Megadeth 7. Metallica (before the black album) 8. Deep Purple/Black Sabbath/Led Zep 9. Manowar 10. Vanden Plas .... but i guess it's gonna change soon, i will buy Tyranny and Younique thanx to all your good critics about them. If you want to get some samples of bands that very much known in Europe (Rhapsody, Vanden Plas...) you can wgeck out my website at : http://members.aol.com/ytsejam19/part2.htm that's all folks! ( -- Seb[e]ast -- )
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:17:35 -0500 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: I hate aol, but hey, my comp hates me Message-ID: <36ADC06F.FE14326F@softhome.net>
AyameYuki@aol.com wrote:
> tell me if im any where close to understanding you guys
Hehe...that's a good one. In this aspect, the Ytsejam is like God. Nobody really understands it, but everybody's got their own opinion and will tell you, sometimes if you don't ask.
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:49:36 -0500 From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pfc-corp.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Flaming idiots Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42C47657F@PFC_EXCH01>
Brian Hayden wrote:
>Are all of you {deleted} stupid? >Didn't any of you stupid {deleted} read the letter you got when you subbed? >NO {deleted} TOP TEN LISTS!
i quote from the welcome letter i received upon subscribing to the jam:
"THINK BEFORE YOU POST"
Maybe you should follow the rules, yourself. The letter i got when i subscribed on 15 January of this year made no mention as to restrictions against Top 10 lists. I would be happy to send a copy of this letter to you -- just let me know.
Furthermore
>NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU LIKE!
you're wrong. i can't count the number of bands i am a fan of -- Dream Theater included -- that i had never heard of until someone else's recommendation. We all have one thing in common here on the jam -- a love of Dream Theater's music. So why not spread word of our other likes -- as long as they fit the definition of "somewhat related", as defined in the afore mentioned welcome letter. Other bands people like, i'd call somewhat related; discussions as to the benefits of the NHL moving out the goal line and shrinking the goal crease -- Not related, but open for debate in another forum. It's lists like these that might help jammers discover a new musical talent that they might not have heard of otherwise. Where are we supposed to hear about great new bands -- MTV? No. Radio? No. Word of Mouth? Absolutely!!
So let's keep the personal attacks quiet (they are forbidden in the letter you felt compelled to read and quote from) -- until someone knows me personally, they have no right to call me derogatory names. And let's keep the intelligent discussions going.
bye
CHRIS =========================================== "Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm some kind of lunatic." -- Queensryche ===========================================
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:56:45 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <komoolli@trade.hamkk.fi> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Need advice about keyboard Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990126155645.009c2970@mail.surffi.net>
To make a long story short, my wife is selling her piano and we'll be buying a synth instead, she insists that no synth (or anything) feels like piano... there is some truth to that I believe.
Anyways, if some jammer(s) have good tips of what synth "feels" most like piano or any other advice of what we should be buying (neither of us knows jack shit of synths) I'd be thankful of all e-mails.
op777 Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:10:13 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Useless NDTC Crap Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.990126095534.20986A-100000@gs.bass.org>
Max V2.0 gave a big sloppy one on the mouth to the group and asked for love in return: >I miss the Ytsejam being a family unit. Please help me to resurrect this feeling.
Waaaaahhhhh! Group hug!
ok, I'm over it.
*someone* almost posted 10 faves including "Ildjarn-Nidhogg." Hmmmm...maybe I should check them out....
Megadave25 asked me to: >Have a wonderful day.
Thanks I will. My best to you and yours.
Brian kicked in our heads (c) and by cracky we'll like it! :P Yeah! Kick me again! Thank you! Again!
/me wonders what uncontrolled substance was applied to my morning orange juice...
P
NP Ani DiFranco: Upx6 Santana: The Masters
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's musical quote for the Month:
Let's all get up and dance to a song/ That was a hit before your mother was born/ Though she was born a long, long time ago.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:36:10 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE/DiMeola Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C960564980920F@messaging>
<<<<< Unless I'm nuts (and there's a damn good possibility of that), there's a little section from DiMeola's "Race With Devil On Spanish Highway" in that Acid Rain MP3. I thought it was kind of cool, though I'd love to hear LTE cover that whole song.
Back to Half-Life for me... >>>>>
If you'll remember, on Jordan's page, he has a little diary of how the original LTE sessions went. He said they were going to jam over some cover material (THIS DiMeola tune, and a Zappa song), but didn't do it in the end because they clicked and churned out original material very quickly. So, maybe they worked it in to a new tune just for the hell of it - wouldn't surprise me!
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:10:13 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4620 Message-ID: <199912611447341@ix.netcom.com>
>Hey there. > Thank you for not fucking listening to my last five hundred requests to >unfucking subscribe. You people are worthless. I would really love to jerk >off with you and talk about Dream theater, but unfortunately, I only >masturbate on my own. I want you to all blow me. I would really appreciate >it if you would stop clogging up my goddamn mailbox with your shitty letters. >I have gotten to the point of utter disgust where if these were actual >leaflets, I would promptly burn them upon receipt of the devil's letters that >you choose to send me. If you even read this, which I know you incompetant >fuckheads will never do, you can shove this response up your fanclub letter- >mailing asses. Have a wonderful day. > Megadave25@aol.com
I think Skadz should keep this guy on "permanent subscribe" and instead of him getting it as a digest, let him get each post individually. :-)
(Matt shoves Megadave25@aol.com's response up his fanclub letter-mailing ass)
(Matt also has a wonderful day)
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:27:31 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Younique Message-ID: <36AE0913.78444527@home.com>
> Al Balkiewicz said: > I whole-heartedly agree with Kez and Metzger on this one. If > you don't have YOUNIQUE, GET IT, DAMMIT!
> Like was said before, it may take some of you a bit to digest > what's actually going on on the CD, but once it hits you, it > HITS you........
WOW! I agree whole-heartedly!
Younique doesn't hit you instantly like Behind ...... but give it a week or two and you'll be in love with it! (in fact, I was rather disappointed at first, but not now)
Note: Does anybody else hear some awesome Pink Floyd stuff going on at the beginning of "Stop"? It's not just me, is it?
People - - <*begin subliminal message*> g - o - o - u - t - a - n - d - b - u - y - y - o - u - n - i - q - u - e - n - o - w <*end subliminal message*> --
- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:47:46 EST From: IceQD@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Looks Like We're Staying Then Message-ID: <17f66689.36ae1be2@aol.com>
Well we decided to take Uncle Mikey's advice, stay on the list and try to be part of the solution.
If that upsets any of you (you know who you are) we wouldn't DREAM (hahahahaha) of apologising ............
Fire & Ice
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:21:10 -0500 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: A New DT List? Message-ID: <36AE23B5.B6F0A82A@softhome.net>
There basically is such a list, though it's not populated with the brightest people on God's gray earth. (from what I've heard from reliable sources) It's called The Mirror, and I believe it's moderated by Lisa Marie Peterson aka Jessie. I'm sure she has more info on it.
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:44:03 -0600 From: "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>, <iceqd@aol.com> Subject: Interesting Message-ID: <003801be49c0$6edbce40$b3c3fea9@sledgemonkey>
>From: Portnoy420@aol.com >Subject: Unsubscribing to the Jam
Interesting to see what Portnoy actually has to say about this, instead of the beautiful slant IceQueen fed it to us as.
>From: IceQD@aol.com >To: ytsejam@axnet.net >Subject: SUCH a Nice Person Our Brian!!!!! >Message-ID: <47ec118.36ae18d0@aol.com> > >This is EXACTLY our point, this lovely little message received today!!!!!!!
You just posted private e-mail to the jam. What is the deal with that? I am SOO sick of your bullshit, queenie. Shit or get off the pot. You can NOT consistantly break all rules of netiquette and then waste space bitching about how other people are not living up to your standards. You are SO FULL OF SHIT, and NO ONE wants to hear it. Get LOST.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:02:42 -0600 From: blex@cybrzn.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: hey Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.19.1.26.-9.2.42.2711133340.3151476@bbs.cybrzn.com>
i have the lie cd single
but i don't have the actual cd single i have the tracks in mp3 format..if you want i can burn it to an audio cd ...it'd be the same just no covers or anything
if interested please send your list. thanks blex
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:51:40 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Laser's Edge / Portnoy's response Message-ID: <36AEB77B.26EACE3E@home.com>
The CowGod wrote: > hey hey, i'm gonna order 3 cds from lasers edge. i know i should call or > e-mail to check availability - do i remember correctly that i SHOULDN'T pay > with credit card? what's the best (i.e. quickest) form of payment? i'm all > about instant gratification :) moo.
I believe that may have been true about the credit card orders at one time.... But I just placed an order about two weeks ago with a credit card (over the phone), and RECEIVED the CD's three or four days later. --
The DrumGod wrote: > Shit...If I haven't unsubscribed yet...you'd be a pussy to......
*GRIN* Well, that was to the point! :) I guess that settles that......
- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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