YTSEJAM Digest 4632

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Fire, Ice, Sherinian, Petrucci, LaBrie, Portnoy
     by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
      2) Re: Murphy and Kuprij
     by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
      3) re: Fatez Warning!
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4631
     by "Curtis Toler" <sticks707@mindspring.com>
      5) Recording of LTE Show in NYC!!
     by Mike Handverger <mike@ageofvalor.com>
      6) Yeah!! Get some, Itchy!!!
     by MTeiper@aol.com
      7) Questions for Stu anybody?
     by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
      8) Threshold gigs
     by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
      9) re: di meola
     by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
     10) URL?
     by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
     11) Re:Fates Warning
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
     12) More on Fates
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
     13) LTE/VK
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     14) Petition to Change the Font
     by "Marco Anastasi" <mav@dns.omnia.it>
     15) Hey You!
     by vecchio@satlink.com
     16) LTE and other stuff
     by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
     17) Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
     by Computer Jim DTFOTL <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
     18) Enquiries about ACoS, Comments about Amos
     by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:22:34 -0500
    From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
    To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fire, Ice, Sherinian, Petrucci, LaBrie, Portnoy
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990128172234.006f3e24@pop.usefulware.com>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Bafu gets the EOJ again (how *does* he do that?).....
    >If anyone agrees with me that Petrucci seems to tolerate more than
    appreciate,
    >feel free to post about all the times Petrucci signed something or answered
    >your questions without ever looking up at you.

    /me raises his hand. "Yo."

    Petrucci signed my ACOS liner after the show when I last saw DT, but he did
    it while walking toward the exit and trying to move through the crowd of
    fans; I barely got the chance to tell him how much I enjoyed the show. His
    response was a flat "Thanks". I got the distinct impression that he would
    rather have been somewhere else.

    >If a famous musician doesn't
    >enjoy the signage or fan interaction he experiences after a show, then that
    >interaction becomes like a DUTY, like something he feels HAS to be done
    >instead of something he WANTS to be doing. People who notice this feel like
    >speed-bumps in his path, myself included.

    My sentiments exactly. When I meet the bands I listen to, I seldom have
    questions (stupid or otherwise) for them -- I generally just want to tell
    them how much I like their music, how much the show rocked, and how
    appreciative I am that they took the time out to come play near me.

    Personally I'm just glad to get the chance to meet them at all. Petrucci
    can do whatever the fuck he pleases as long as he keeps writing and playing
    that great music, as far as I'm concerned -- I don't have to like a band
    member as a person in order to love the music he/she puts out.

    ta,
    Phil

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    Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter
    "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
            -- Berthold Auerbach

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:26:10 -0500
    From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
    To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Murphy and Kuprij
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990128172610.006f3a00@pop.usefulware.com>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Jarno wrote:
    >P.S. Does anyone happen to know any other solo albums by keyboardists
    >with a playing style of LTE/Yngwie Malmsteen/Stratovarius etc. and, dare
    >I say... VITALIJ KUPRIJ!? I'm not looking for any jazzy or other
    >sideproject kind of things but something with fast solowork and maybe a
    >crazy axeman as a sidekick.

    Vitalij's second release "Extreme Measures" came out late last year, with
    George ("Yngwie is a TURTLE") Bellas on guitars. I haven't picked it up yet
    because quite frankly the idea of Bellas and Kuprij duelling for solo space
    terrifies me. :)

    ta,
    Phil

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    Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter
    "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
            -- Berthold Auerbach

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:14:11 -0800 (PST)
    From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: re: Fatez Warning!
    Message-ID: <19990128221411.2561.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com>

    <appoggiatura@hotmail.com> inquired:

    > Hey all.....

    > I in desperate need of some new music to listen to and would like a
    few
    > opinions on Fates Warning, since they seem to be a "cousin" of DT.
    > Any recommendations as to any *HEAVIER* stuff that they have put
    out?????

    Heavier? That means you'd want to try "Awaken the Guardian" or "No
    Exit". One has John Arch singing, and the other has Ray Alder. John
    Arch is very unique, and many people really like him. Both of these
    are guitar albums, and there is no keyboard player in the band.

    Of course, A Pleasant Shade of Grey is considered their best work now,
    but it's very mellow for the most part...

    my $.01, BH

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    Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:02:14 -0600
    From: "Curtis Toler" <sticks707@mindspring.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4631
    Message-ID: <199901282302.SAA13190@smtp0.mindspring.com>

    Ok, let the screaming begin:
     1. I went to the DT show in Atlanta where they were passing out DT Ytsejam
    stickers. Does NE1 know how to get me more? (I got a new car and the old
    sticker got trashed.)
    2. Korg (or NE1 in Idaho) E-mail me. I'm going to Mountain Home/Boise area
    and would like to know if the scene (if any) is better there than in
    Mississippi. GOD I hope so.

    Curtis StickS Toler
    sticks707@mindspring.com

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:51:03 -0500
    From: Mike Handverger <mike@ageofvalor.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Recording of LTE Show in NYC!!
    Message-ID: <36B0F7E6.3098133E@ageofvalor.com>

    Hey everyone...

        Just wanted to announce to the list that I got my hands on a very
    good quality recording of LTE's concert in NYC at the Bowery Ballroom. I
    am offering copies of the whole performance for the night. It is a 2 CD
    set with cases, covers, and inserts for $25 (or trade). It runs
    approximately 90 min, and the quality of the recording is very good.
    (though not digital or directly from the sound board) If you don't
    believe me, check out this 2 minute sample from Kindred Spirits at
    http://www.nyct.net/~mikeh/kindredspiritsclip.mp3 . (sorry, NYCT.net
    doesn't have their mime types set up apparantly, so you'll have to
    shift-click it if you are using a browser)

        I'm willing to distribute it, BUT I have nowhere near the equipment
    needed to mass produce CDs.. So, I'm just warning that there will be a
    waiting list, and it may very well be a big one. Trade, Cash, Or Money
    Order Only.. Email me back privately OR go to the following web page for
    more info:

    http://www.ageofvalor.com/~mike/lte/

    Enjoy...

    Mike Handverger

    --
    Webmaster,
    Age of Valor Live Role Playing
    http://www.ageofvalor.com
    

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:25:14 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Yeah!! Get some, Itchy!!! Message-ID: <2c07979a.36b0ffea@aol.com>

    << > 2) Female jammers getting itchy

    One at a time please! Ok, maybe two... ;-)

    Mark Bredius >>

    ROFLMAO!!!

    Truth be told, I thought the same thing when I read the original post about the female jammers getting itchy. Thankfully, there are others out there as sick and perverted as I. :-)

    Laterz.... Matt T.

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:44:16 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Questions for Stu anybody? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990129034416.0091e8f0@messagebox.com>

    Hi there!

    I might be doing an e-mail interview with Stu Hamm sometime next week, when he returns from the NAMM show, so I thought I could check with you if you have got any questions you'd like to ask the man!!! His replies will be posted to http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch - Stu Hamm's UNofficial site (of course).

    Hope to get some questions from ya guys, ~Peter ========================================================== The maintainer of the YtseJamCD Project site: http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch/Ytze IRC: Hammman ICQ:425-8962 ===========================================================

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:30:52 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Threshold gigs Message-ID: <091c81531021d19UPIMSSMTPUSR06@email.msn.com>

    Hi Ash

    you sure about this?

    >21st Feb. London Astoria 2, London > Special guests: Landmarq.

    I knew about the gig in Rotherham and was considering going, but the Astoria would be much more convenient - only one problem, I thought IQ were booked to play there that evening.

    Charlie

    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:56:09 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: di meola Message-ID: <19990129025609.20756.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >I have Casino and the closest thing th a suite on here >is the Fantasia Suitefor Two Guitars, which is crazy in >its own right, but obviously doesnt guestJaco on bass >(since there is no bass) and he's not on any other song >on thealbum. Perhaps you're confusing it with some other >album, but I have SplendidoHotel as well as Elegant >Gypsy and "Golden Dawn Suite" isnt on either of those either.

    actually..i followed up that post with an apology cause i accedentally said it was on casino without thinking.. it's on his first album "land of the midnight sun".. and jaco does play on the song :).. kicks ass

    inferno

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:55:28 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: URL? Message-ID: <199901290351.WAA22114@maila.wm.edu>

    >Just got this message from the Threshold Fanclub: >Threshold starting off 1999 European clone tour with two UK dates:

    Could you post a URL for the/a official site for these guys? So far all I've found is a whole bunch of "hi I'm a fan and I have this site" type deals, with basically all the same information, except not all that I want to know. :) Any helpers?

    Alex

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:38:17 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re:Fates Warning Message-ID: <36B17379.CC8D37CE@isd.net>

    A_Change of_Seasons wrote: > I in desperate need of some new music to listen to and would like a few >opinions on Fates Warning, since they seem to be a "cousin" of DT.

    > Just so you know, I'm not totally virgin to Fates. I have _Inside Out_ >and IN MY OPINION thought it spewed ass-vapor all over my speakers. Any >recommendations as to any *HEAVIER* stuff that they have put out?????

    >Private or Jam is fine.

    No Exit & Perfect Symmetry. Then I'd go for Parallels.

    Gee, chronological order... hmmmm.

    Really, get No Exit.. I smile every time I listen to it. Alder Rules! The guitar & bass playing is VERY cool. Zimmerman is OK on the drums... I guess I'm just spoiled by listening to Zonder.

    <Butthead mode-ON>

    You said "ass-vapor" uhh... huh huh.

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:19:56 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: More on Fates Message-ID: <36B17D3C.5604C58D@isd.net>

    Ambassador Nelaskon wrote: >But the FIRST thing I think you should get is "Still Life". Disc 1 is APSOG done live

    No NO No! C'mon, he needs to hear the studio versions of "The Ivory Gate of Dreams" and "APSoG" first. Think about it. I'm sure he'll like No Exit. If he buys the studio versions of APSog & No Exit, I'm sure if he likes them, he'll buy Still Life. I just think 99% of live discs are a bad place to start out familiarizing yourself with a band. IMHO. To many little nuances that make the studio recording so moody can't be reproduced live. That goes for any band that has any background detail. Even Queensryche's "Operation Livecrime" lost a lot of the emotion live. It can't be avoided. This has nothing to do with the musicians, it's the little subtle trinkets that the recording engineer & producer insert later that can make or break a recording. These things can have a big impact on a first time listener.

    >Could be my favorite progmetal CD ever. Added sound effects and everything.

    Sure they did. But not at the same subtle levels. The sound effects were slammed into the sound board and PA system at 10 times the amplitude of the original recording. So much for nuances. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just one of those people that listen to the texture of a recording and overall presentation. I think there is sheer genius in those two recordings that can't be reproduced live. That my opinion anyway.

    P.S. I think he'd love the APSoG live video. I've hooked several newbies with that.

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:55:24 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE/VK Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3B34@ms.kallback.com>

    > From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> > Subject: Roxy LTE show > ps, anyone going to the NAMM or Roxy LTE shows, let me know via > email... Me and > Nate 'Mr. Savatage' Bradley are cruisin out to LA for the weekend... > Like to > hang some fellow YtseFreaks... mike@ivorygate.com I'll be there from Seattle with Matt Schnoor from Oregon and some discriminated-against Jammette from San Francisco.

    > P.S. Does anyone happen to know any other solo albums by keyboardists > with a playing style of LTE/Yngwie Malmsteen/Stratovarius etc. and, > dare > I say... VITALIJ KUPRIJ!? Do you have both Artension cds? They lean towards classic rock, but VK still rocks the keys.

    Blue cotton candy NOW, you fucking bananaheads!

    Trevor

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:10:44 +0100 From: "Marco Anastasi" <mav@dns.omnia.it> To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Petition to Change the Font Message-ID: <01be4b24$32890920$b456f3c2@mav.omnia.it>

    >> Yeah, the old gothic looking font was much MUCH better than that new >> techy/cartoony lookin one. We should start a ytsepetition!

    >YES! One of the reasons I LOVE my DT albums is the artwork... including >the font... Not that it will change anything, but... any volunteers to >organize the petition??:-)

    I perfectly agree with you! Let's start the FONT C R U S A D E NOW ! Let's bring back that fantastic DT font, and its past time flavour! :) :) Jokes apart, I agree with the possibility of a petition. Count me in. Bye Jammers

    Marco

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:03:55 -0300 From: vecchio@satlink.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Hey You! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990129090355.006f87bc@mail.satlink.com>

    Please! Visit my page at: http://webs.satlink.com/usuarios/v/vecchio/ they have a nice VQF file of Dream Theater, is a Pink Floyd song called "Hey You".

    Thank You!

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:31:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE and other stuff Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0129133105-b49rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>

    Having just listened to the MP3s of Acid Rain, Another Dimension and Jordan's keyboard solo from the recent LTE shows, I'm really feeling quite happy. Listening to the solo, I was just itching for him to break into Lines in the Sand, or Platt Opus, or Wait for Sleep, or the Ytse Jam, just to make us salivate even more.

    Just think . . . if there were only nine bands in the world, we'd never have to endure another top 10 list ever again.

    Graham

    -- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:34:27 -0500 From: Computer Jim DTFOTL <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd) Message-ID: <36B1B8E3.F0F05A0A@typhoon.lightning.net>

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    > > My solo instrumental album, "PLANET X", will be released by summer > on > > Magna Carta Records. It features Tony Franklin on bass, Virgil > Donati on

    OK.... whats weird about this? A *SOLO* album with other musicians... interesting wording.

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    Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:38:21 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Enquiries about ACoS, Comments about Amos Message-ID: <4BF4E135EC@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>

    Thoughts I had over Christmas 1) I don't get something. In the liner notes to ACoS, it says that ACoS was written in '89 with Met1. Okay, but I thought that Ibanez and Vai didn't come up with a commercially available 7-string until '91? I know ACoS was re-worked, but you just couldn't rework it that much. I've tried, in Em and Bm on a 6-string, and it just sounds a) wrong and b) shit (maybe it's the way I play it). And not just Carpe Diem which is obvious. Do DT Lie?

    2) Tori Amos' latest album is prog. What happenned? Am I going insane? Is the world going to end? Incidentally, try jamming over that album. 7-string players, you is going to have yousselves a FIELD DAY (while TA'd have a FIT if she heard the results). Okay, who's for JP and MP guesting on her next album??

    3) Speaking of which, does anyone have/know where I can get hold of a copy (well, okay, boot) of DT doing TA's "Winter" at the Uncovered show? I want to hear this SO MUCH, and no, I can't handle Mp3s. I think. Private E-snail appreciated.

    4) Are there ANY people on this list from the UK? Anyone at all?? Does no-one in this country have any musical taste at all??? I mean, even the rock magazines hate DT. Ban K! Shit, sometimes I hate being a Brit. Having said that, DT come here all the time though, which makes up for it...

    Si

    p.s. Buffy kicks arse. So there.

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