YTSEJAM Digest 4633
Today's Topics:
1) DT History/Live
by "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pfc-corp.com>
2) Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
by Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
3) Re: Enquiries about ACoS, Comments about Amos
by Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
4) New Font - Old Font...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
5) YTSEJAM digest
by ASHLEY WONG <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4617
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
7) Change the font petition - Sign it!!!
by Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com>
8) LTE in NYC on CD-R
by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
9) Brit DT
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
10) Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
by Computer Jim DTFOTL <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
11) me,myself,i / maximum eric! / finn shred
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
12) Derek's keyboards & Petrucci's attitude...
by Josh Brand <jbrand@mtu.edu>
13) Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
14) Bowery Recording
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
15) Re: Derek's keyboards & Petrucci's attitude...
by Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4632
by BSSII@aol.com
17) Threshold
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:52:51 -0500
From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pfc-corp.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: DT History/Live
Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42C476587@PFC_EXCH01>
Hey jammers (should we still use the title "jammers"; now that roller
derby is back i wouldn't want to get confused with those kids!)
i need some info from you folks who know your DT history. While digging
through my CD collection last night, i came across a promotional
compilation disc put out by the College Music Journal in 1988 (called
"Moshin' CMJ"). The last track on the disc is "Only A Matter Of Time" by
Majesty. Would this be considered any kind of rare or obscure recording,
or is it more common or easy to find than i'd guessed? [Whoa, kinda like
diggin' the lint out of your navel, and finding an M&M,
wooooohoooooo!!!] To quote from the liner notes(if your interested):
"Anyone who fears for the future of progressive rock will find endless
solace in the music of the perfectly-named Majesty. ... Obviously a band
who has their chops down, Majesty's complex arrangements and stellar
virtuosity pertain to -- but often transcend -- the Hard Rock genre."
On another note: As i was listening to OIALT, i was thinking about how
"Take Away My Pain" would have sounded more powerful without the keys.
Maybe even without the drums, too (sorry MP -- but maybe you could use
the break ;-). i think, especially live, that could have been a real
moving rendition of the song with just the acoustic guitar and sax. Just
an idea, anybody else think so? (just a critique/observation -- not
intended to start an argument)
ttfn
CHRIS
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A Moose once bit my sister...
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:10:41 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
Message-ID: <36B1CF71.D2F260DE@mindless.com>
Computer Jim DTFOTL wrote:
> > My solo instrumental album, "PLANET X", will be released by summer
> > on
> > > Magna Carta Records. It features Tony Franklin on bass, Virgil
> > Donati on
>
> OK.... whats weird about this? A *SOLO* album with other musicians...
> interesting wording.
Most solo albums do feature other musicians other than the artist making it.
The only examples i can think of right now are when some of the guys from GnR
made solo records (slash ,duff and izzy?) they all had other musicians.. i
mean.. if youre a guitar player and do a solo album...youre not going to just do
an album of guitar tracks..and maybe put a drum machine there ... IMO its even
wierder that JLbrie's project is called his solo album..when its been said most
of the music is going to be written by keneally(sp?) and james isnt going to
play any of it. (for the sake of argument, not considering his throat as an
instrument) .
My point is that if you check out most solo albums DO contain other musicians.
--
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness.There is a river crying
Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Sup.@Caribbean Internet Service
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com (ICQ)1254229
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:18:20 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Enquiries about ACoS, Comments about Amos
Message-ID: <36B1D13C.F5936427@mindless.com>
Simon John Dodd wrote:
> Thoughts I had over Christmas
> 1) I don't get something. In the
> liner notes to ACoS, it says that ACoS was written in '89 with Met1.
> Okay, but I thought that Ibanez and Vai didn't come up with a
> commercially available 7-string until '91? I know ACoS was re-worked,
> but you just couldn't rework it that much. I've tried, in Em and Bm
> on a 6-string, and it just sounds a) wrong and b) shit (maybe it's
> the way I play it). And not just Carpe Diem which is obvious. Do DT
> Lie?
Coincidentally.. the only sections on ACOS which the low B string is used
are the intro pattern and that could be a detuned acoustic, when that
breaks..with the heavy part., and and when they sort of repeat that right
before going to the crimson sunset (see OIal) ..apart from that..i can
only think of that down slide JP does during the middle section (darkest
of winters) which he now plays with a 6 string ( because they play
scarred/darkest/ytsejam as a whole.. the whole point is.. the only parts
the 7 string is used.. are the ones that were totally different and i dont
mean transposed..i mean different..from the album version. And even if
they werent 7 strings by '89 , im pretty sure pitch shifters and detuned
guitars were a fairly used practice..which JP couldve used if he so
desired...
--
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness.There is a river crying
Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Sup.@Caribbean Internet Service
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com (ICQ)1254229
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:26:46 -0600
From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: New Font - Old Font...
Message-ID: <82CD0BD64E68D211BDA00060975B3ACF0331B1@BHAM-XCHG1.immpower.com>
Hey Guys,
Marco did say:
>I perfectly agree with you! Let's start the FONT C R U S A D E
NOW !
>Let's bring back that fantastic DT font, and its past time flavour! :)
:)
>Jokes apart, I agree with the possibility of a petition. Count me in.
>Bye Jammers
Ya just can't go back.... :) Actually I hope they don't revert to past
album cover styles and fonts. I&W just looks so 80's (I know it wasn't
done in the 80's - it just looks like it IMHO). I think the cover art
and fonts should progress and move forward to reflect the music, I love
the FII and OIAL covers, lets look forward!
Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama).
NP: KX - Tape Head.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:27 +0100
From: ASHLEY WONG <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: YTSEJAM digest
Message-ID: <199901291427.7ane@eds.ericsson.se>
--- Received from ETL.ETLAYWG +44-1444-231883 99-01-29 15:27
-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
Hello all,
Alright Charlie. Yep, the club letter states the date as being the 21st.=
I
have tried to go to the official website http://mars.spaceports.com/=FCd=
evoted but it
still seems to be in development ;)
I dunno about checking out the IQ tour dates with another source? Hope t=
o s
ee you there anyway :)
Ashley.
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Hi Ash
you sure about this?
>21st Feb. London Astoria 2, London
> Special guests: Landmarq.
I knew about the gig in Rotherham and was considering going, but the
Astoria would be much more convenient - only one problem, I thought IQ
were booked to play there that evening.
Charlie
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:43:18 +0100 (CET)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4617
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901291540580.1664-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Robert Jurado wrote:
>
> > DTC: Petrucci plays some Star Wars (Vader's Theme, I believe it's called) at
> > the beginning of Voices on OIAL.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, that little theme is the leitmotif for Ben Kenobi
> and the Force. I don't really know if it has a name.
Hmm... Star Wars seems rather popular amongst our progmetal friends... The
same theme is played at the end of one of the songs on Starto's Visions...
Can't remember which song though.
Cheers
Zaphod
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Peter Geerts *QUOTE*
zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles)
ICQ: 13122363
Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium
President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:40:57 -0500
From: Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Change the font petition - Sign it!!!
Message-ID: <01BE4B6B.7993DD30.paul@ageofvalor.com>
Okokokok
I started some talk about the font a while back...
I will keep a petition... :)
Send me your name and email address to ytsefont@ageofvalor.com if you agree
to the following :)
"As a long time fan of Dream Theater, I am very excited about the band's
prospects for the future. With that in mind it is my sincere request that
the older ("Dream Theater") font is used on the next album cover. While we
acknowledge Dream Theater is in no way defined by a font, we believe the
older font looked great on the album covers and would love to see it
back..."
I'll compile them and send them to the correct channels :)
Also don't send anything mean or vulgar... I will be directly copying the
whole file of emails to where ever they are going... don't make me extra
work by being mean :)
Ask and yee shall recieve,
Paul Drapeau
paul@ageofvalor.com
Age of Valor Live Role Playing
http://www.ageofvalor.com/
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:58:37 -0500
From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: LTE in NYC on CD-R
Message-ID: <36B1CC9D.746C@idt.net>
> Subject: Recording of LTE Show in NYC!!
>
> Hey everyone...
>
> Just wanted to announce to the list that I got my hands on a very
> good quality recording of LTE's concert in NYC at the Bowery Ballroom.
> (though not digital or directly from the sound board)
> I'm willing to distribute it, BUT I have nowhere near the equipment
> needed to mass produce CDs.. So, I'm just warning that there will be a
> waiting list, and it may very well be a big one.
>
> Mike Handverger
If anyone is interested, I DO have a digital copy, and I DO have the
ability to "mass produce", so if you find yourself on that waiting list,
let me know.
John DiBella
President/Xanadu Records
http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html
http://xanadu.webjump.com
* I find it VERY difficult to worship a man who was killed
by a toilet bowl... *
John DiBella referring to Elvis in a conversation with his
mom regarding whos generation of Rock Stars was
more worthy of praise
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:20:34 -0500
From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Brit DT
Message-ID: <199901291020_MC2-6875-EFF2@compuserve.com>
No that's not a new crap type of BritXXX music..
UK DT Fan holing up his hand and gets just as pissed off as you are
(especially with the magazines).
DTx Dave
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:24:46 -0500
From: Computer Jim DTFOTL <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
Message-ID: <36B1D2BE.60FF2F8@typhoon.lightning.net>
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> Most solo albums do feature other musicians other than the artist
> making it.
That's my point. They shouldnt be called solo albums =) I can see:
Derek Sherinian's Solo album with Tracks Featuring blahblahblahblah.
> mean.. if youre a guitar player and do a solo album...youre not going
> to just do
> an album of guitar tracks..and maybe put a drum machine there ... IMO
> its even
I just personally feel that if its called a SOLO ALBUM.. It should be
done by that person and that person alone. =) That's all... I mean.. I
could go out and record a solo album (I play drums, KB, and guitars) but
nobody would buy it cause I'm not famous =)
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:39:15 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: me,myself,i / maximum eric! / finn shred
Message-ID: <36B1D623.371E@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
I_Am_Yucky wrote:
> ( regretfully, although we had 10 members (
> original ) , but we got a new member and three of them are on probation cuz
Error: missing '') or too many '('
Compilation aborted!! ( depsite its coolness )
eriC claims he's not THE Max:
> maX. I don't want people to flame me for something I didn't do. Buh > bye!
Damn, you take all the fun out of it :)
Saw Jon Finn Group last night. Awesome as always. They now have Dana
Robertson on drums, who used to play with Missing Persons at one time.
DiCenso, Jon says, has moved onto green pastures (his own band). Dana
did just fine. Brytsejammers, check his page, there's updated info on
the UK gigs. Who cares. Bye. :)
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:41:55 -0500
From: Josh Brand <jbrand@mtu.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Derek's keyboards & Petrucci's attitude...
Message-ID: <36B1D6C3.583360BF@mtu.edu>
Well, this isn't about Derek/Jordan, just so we're clear...
I was watching 5YiaL last night, 'cause I calibrated my TV with video
essentials, and I'm watching everything again. Anyway, I noticed that on
Derek's Trinity (during the Rotterdam show) there is some stuff written
on masking tape stuck on to the right of the LCD display. You can see it
pretty clearly during "To Live Forever" right as JP goes into his
musical interlude in the song. The camera shows a close-up of
Sherinian's hand and you can see the tape on the the Trinity. I can tell
it's not a set list, the stuff looks too small to be titles. So does
anyone know what that is he's got written? Is it a keyboardist thing? I
know it's not really that important, but it's been bugging me and I'm
curious.
As for JP being "withdrawn and introverted" (at least he's not
infectiously perverted ;)), having met him twice, I can't agree. Maybe
he was just tired or something when you talked to him, but he's been
agreeable to me. Signed my stuff, listed to me without rolling his eyes,
was pretty generally decent. About the one consistent thing I have
noticed from person to person is that John never seems to think he did a
very good job at the show. After racing down to see DT in Detroit
because my friend's whore of a professor made him take a test that
afternoon, we arrived late and ran into the band outside by the bus.
Having John (and the rest of the troupe) sign my unused ticket, I told
him it was 'cause I had missed the show. His reply: "That's OK. We
sucked anyway." Always cheerful, that Petrucci. Well, I'd like to see DT
in a show when John _didn't_ think he sucked. The place'd be on fire.
Thus ends my rant. No top ten lists or one-liners... well...
"Horse walks into a bar. Bartender says 'Why the long face?'"
/rimshot/
Josh
--
"This album has the fire."
--Derek Sherinian, about "Planet X"
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:58:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
Subject: Re: A Message from Derek Sherinian (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9901291056320.21088-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> The only examples i can think of right now are when some of the guys from GnR
> made solo records (slash ,duff and izzy?) they all had other musicians.. i
I think they mean "solo album" in a more creative sence rather
than a performance sence. With "solo albums" the person who's project it
is has total artistic control of it (for it's *their* album!) and that's
more or less what Derek means by it.
The only people I can think of (off-hand) who have recorded a
COMPLETLY solo album are Steve Winwood (who did 2 albums like that) and
Bob Mould (who did his post-Sugar album like that).
- mike.
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erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:07:27 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Bowery Recording
Message-ID: <36B1DCBF.86EE1531@bigfoot.com>
>Just wanted to announce to the list that I got my hands on a very
>good quality recording of LTE's concert in NYC at the Bowery Ballroom.
I
There are three songs on your recording that are going to be released
later this year. Did you clear this w/Mike? He might ask you to
wait...or he might not care. But you should probably sure, out of
respect for him and the rest of the band.
--
Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel
"Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!"
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:08:29 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Derek's keyboards & Petrucci's attitude...
Message-ID: <36B1EB0D.1984E946@mindless.com>
Josh Brand wrote:
> Well, this isn't about Derek/Jordan, just so we're clear...
>
> there is some stuff written
> on masking tape stuck on to the right of the LCD display. You can see it
> pretty clearly during "To Live Forever" right as JP goes into his
> musical interlude in the song. The camera shows a close-up of
> Sherinian's hand and you can see the tape on the the Trinity. I can tell
> it's not a set list, the stuff looks too small to be titles.
>
>
Im guessing its location of the patches and soundshe needs for different songs..
specially in that gig since they were playing a lot of not-common stuff on their
setlists.
--
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness.There is a river crying
Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Sup.@Caribbean Internet Service
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com (ICQ)1254229
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:45:44 EST
From: BSSII@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4632
Message-ID: <2338a6db.36b1e5b8@aol.com>
I have asked to be deleted from this mailing list, but it has not worked so
far. PLEASE let me know how to end this. We are not interested , and it takes
up a lot of space every day. Thank you for your help. BSSII@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:55:22 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>, Alex <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
Subject: Threshold
Message-ID: <36B1E7FA.DEB9A09B@home.com>
> >Just got this message from the Threshold Fanclub:
> >Threshold starting off 1999 European clone tour with two UK dates:
Alex said:
> Could you post a URL for the/a official site for these guys? So far all
> I've found is a whole bunch of "hi I'm a fan and I have this site" type
> deals, with basically all the same information, except not all that I want
> to know. :) Any helpers?
http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/bands/threshold/
The official Threshold page. :)
--
- Joe D. aka Magellan
jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723
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The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries
I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see
- Savatage, from "Not What You See"
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