YTSEJAM Digest 4961
Today's Topics:
1) Odds'n'sods
by "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4959
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
3) DVD and Hi-end audio
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4960
by Brian Lundy <Styles@injersey.com>
5) Online CD site
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
6) Maybe Berklee IS a guarantee...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
7) re-usable song titles
by Fran Brennan <okelnard@hotmail.com>
8) Souls Of Black-----TestamenT
by Compadre32@aol.com
9) Re: re-usable song titles
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
10) RE: re-usable song titles
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
11) To change or not to change (not your underwear, Mosh)
by MusicSnob@aol.com
12) Re: re-usable song titles
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) What's the story?
by "Tom Walling" <intoinfinity@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:49:46 +0200
From: "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Odds'n'sods
Message-ID: <005355AD0596D211B4F30000F81B0D32B85B10@daemsg01.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I've got a few minutes to fire off a few ramblings and another review of an
album that is simply a must for fans of Sabbath and Solitude Aeturnus.
Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me. 41 and still
rocking (albeit in my chair on the porch). Methinks I
may well get shit-faced later. Bombay vindaloo anybody?
Has anybody here seen Apocalyptica live? I've heard the
albums, and they are OK but nothing I'd buy. On the
other hand, I've heard that the concerts are great. The
Finnish fiddlers will be playing here in good old
Darmstadt (translates literally as Gut City if anybody
is interested) in August, and I'd be grateful for any
info about whether it's worth going.
Meshuggah. I can only agree with what Jens and Younis
have been saying about this band lately. Not a band for
everybody, but certainly very hard, very complex, very
challenging and unique. Warning: can make your brains
feel like mashed potato and make your ears bleed, but
good clean fun for all the family.
LAS CRUCES - Ringmaster (Brainticket Records)
Take Corrosion Of Conformity, strip away all of the
"commercial" aspects, cross them with Black Sabbath,
supply the resulting band with hard and heavy riffs,
mix in the last two albums by Solitude Aeternus - and
you've got "Ringmaster" by Las Cruces. As far as I know,
the band has been around for 4 years or so, and has
built up quite a reputation in Texas as a hard working
live band, which certainly shows in the maturity of this
album. While sounding like the bands mentioned above,
the music is in no way derivative. This is what a
modern hard doom album should sound like - lots of
heaviness, good riffs, catchy melodies and an honest
intensity that is rare these days. Sadly, this album
was difficult to find in Europe and I had to order from
MeteorCity (very reliable, by the way). Well worth
looking for and also well worth 9/10.
Neil's piece of wisdom after 41 years on this planet:
life is like being a pubic hair on a toilet seat -
you'll get pissed off sooner or later.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: KARMA TO BURN - Wild Wonderful
Purgatory
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:54:43 +1000
From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4959
Message-ID: <378315CF.9AC85F85@alphalink.com.au>
Joe DeAngelo said:
>
> Well, I think Floyd isn't a "two-listen" type band. They do take quite
> a while to get into. I personally used to HATE the fuckers, and thought
> they sucked bigtime. After ALOT of listens, they're in my top 5 or so
> bands.
>
> I'm also severely pissed that a few of my friends invited me to go see
> them live a few years ago ('94 or '95 maybe??), and I declined, saying I
> thought PF blew. :(
> Dammit I'm a stupid-ass!
>
heh, i hate it when stuff like that happens.
I think a lot of people are put off when they hear Pink Floyd for the first
time, especially when they've heard all these metal bands citing them as
influences. When I first gave them a try they sounded like a bunch of
hippies playing lounge music. I think though being a band big on atmosphere,
you really have to listen to them in the right situation like at night before
you go to sleep or after a party is winding down.
As for the acid thing, I used to do quite a bit of acid and sure when
you're on it Pink Floyd seems to have something which few other bands have.
I mean metal just sounds terrible on acid, but Pink Floyd was like no
other band. Even so, I don't think you have to be on acid to enjoy it,
I only tried acid a year or two after I got into them
And Rob rote:
> .. Got LTE2 yesterday from CDNOW. I'm listening to WtWB for the first time
> right now and it's a staggering achievment. I've only heard Acid Rain and
> Biaxident and WtWB so far and it makes me feel so f%^&in insignificant.
>
> Congratulations to the guys - I hope the CD gets the commercial recognition
> that it truly deserves.
>
>
Hmm, I've been trying to get LTE2 now in the stores around here(Melbourne,
Australia) for the past two weeks and they all seem to be sold out! The guy at
the local metal shop which is normally only hardcore and stuff, knew exactly
what I meant and said they had sold out of both LTE1 and 2, which is pretty
amazing considering how the prog scene has been here in the past. I suppose that's
a good sign, but also damn annoying.
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:29:44 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DVD and Hi-end audio
Message-ID: <37833A28.A89E2FEB@isd.net>
Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
>1. DVD
>Is it better to get your DD/DTS decoder in your receiver or in your player?
That's a tough one... The "best" would be a completely separate decoder.
However, if you're on limited funds, I'd consider having the decoder in the
component you'd be most likely to replace first. As fast as the technology
is moving forward, I wouldn't get real attached to anything. :) By the time to
learn to navigate the thing properly it will be obsolete. That's why separate
amps/preamps are great, the amplifier and preamplifier are the least likely
things to fall victim to obsolescence. With a separate decoder, if the format
is replaced, only the decoder needs to be ditched.
My recommendation for amplification would be:
A dedicated 2-channel stereo amp, and a 3-channel amplifier for theater
duty. As far as a preamp goes... Go for a good dedicated stereo preamp
and add a preamp/decoder that can drive line-level amps directly.
This is kind of like having your cake and eating it too. Many of the newer
preamps have a "bypass mode" allowing the external decoder to control
the volume on the stereo preamp when used in theater applications.
Adcom, and Rotel have some great components for integrating theater
with audiophile stereo gear.
BTW, when 7-channel home theater takes full flight, you'll only need to
replace the decoder, add another 2-channel amp and pair of speakers
rather than scrap the whole works and start over. Smart buying, IMHO.
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Neil Gallop wrote:
>Preaching in Al's footsteps, part 1. If you can afford
>it, do yourself a big favour and buy some mid-range
>stereo components - you will not regret it. I recently
>picked up some nice stuff from Luxman, which was going
>for about DM 5000 here in Germany (about US $ 2600). I
>hooked the new stuff up to my Canton SC-L speakers, set
>the pre-amp to direct and was given a glimpse of heaven.
>The music took on a new depth, had a new clarity, I was
>hearing details I'd never heard before. In some cases,
>it was like hearing the albums for the first time. The
>power amp and the speakers have far much more power than
>I'll ever need, but I get excellent results and more
>than enough volume when everything is just ticking over
>without any component having to strain. I know some of
You've only scratched the surface of the world of "Hi-end" audio.
Don't stop there! There are sub- US $1,000.00 CD players from
California Audio Labs, Rega, and Rotel, that will (I'm sorry to say)
smoke that Luxman like a cheap cigar when it comes to detail and
realism. The CAL Icon mk II's are being replaced in the line-up and
have been known to be sold for under a grand. IMHO, the Icon is the
king of detail in that price range. The Rotel RCD-991 (US $1,200.00)
is serious competition in the sub US $2,000.00 playing field.
The price tags are not just for looks and flair, I'm sure you've noticed
this jumping onto the mid-fi bandwagon. The better gear DOES sound
FAR superior. Just wait until you start getting into true Hi-end gear,
you'll need to wear a condom so you don't soil your shorts!
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 07:59:32 -0700
From: Brian Lundy <Styles@injersey.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4960
Message-ID: <37836B54.2EB4C3DC@injersey.com>
Hey Trev,
>
>
> Hey Al, Jeeves, or whoever,
>
> 1. DVD
> Is it better to get your DD/DTS decoder in your receiver or in your player?
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
It's the best to have the AC-3 and/or DTS processor as a seperate unit. So you'd have seperate tuner, pre-amp, amps, and processor(s). That will cost the most by far. The next best alternative is to have the AC-3/DTS built into the receiver. NEVER get the processors built into the DVD player, there is a significant loss of sound quality there. Also, for watching digital/HDTV, you need to run the signal INTO a processor for it to be decoded. If you have the processor in the player, you have no way to let the signal in, just out. Again, if the processor is built into the rec., or as a seperate unit, you can still build for the future. Hope this helps.
Bri.
p.s. A very special thanks to all who have written me back about my CD-RW question, you (we) 'jammers are the best!
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:46:17 +0100
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net, bostonjam@dreamt.org
Subject: Online CD site
Message-ID: <37836839.633CE850@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
A friend saw a CD online at http://www.everycd.com that he's been
looking for, for a while. Does anyone have any experiences with this
place they might relay, before he plunks the money down?
Thanks,
Jon
NP: Totally Fugazi - Ytseradio
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 10:35:07 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Maybe Berklee IS a guarantee...
Message-ID: <001501b80ee4$b638d980$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
As I'd mentioned before, I was quite impressed with the soundtrack for South
Park the Movie (in a musical, not lyrical sense) and sure enough, Trey
Parker, the guy who's been writing pretty much all of the zany-ass songs
from the TV series (the Underpants Gnomes still being my fave) wrote every
damn song on the movie. An incredible acheivement, imo, especially when he
takes all of the songs and combines them in the "La Resistance Medley" in a
way that would probably make even Jon Oliva's eyes water. Anyway, add him
to the list of successful Berklee dropouts I guess. :) Apparently he
studied there for a semester and then took off into film-making school.
So, as far as I can tell, Berklee ain't no fucking guarantee, but dropping
out of Berklee is? hmmmmm....
--
KorgX3 thinks about paying tuition, but not attending.
NP: Phil Collins: Greatest Hits
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 11:18:29 PDT
From: Fran Brennan <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re-usable song titles
Message-ID: <19990707181834.64719.qmail@hotmail.com>
has anybody else noticed that DT, King's X and the Galactic Cowboys (and
various side projects) all seem to share song titles?
DT and GC both have songs called "Speak to Me", and "Where are you now". GC
shares "Paradigm Shift" with LTE. "Lies in the Sand", by King's X, and
"Lines in the Sand" by DT don't quite match, but...And DT and Ty Tabor both
have a song called "Another Day"
has anyone else noticed this? or am I just a weirdo?
Fran "Banjoman" Brennan
NP: Bela Fleck/Vishwa Mohan Bhatt/Jie-Bing Chen "Tabula Rasa"
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:12:43 EDT
From: Compadre32@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Souls Of Black-----TestamenT
Message-ID: <ef1bb192.24b52adb@aol.com>
Hey.....this is for that guy who just got into Testament:
I STRONGLY reccomend getting Souls Of Black, but if you are interested in a
sampling of all the pre-Gathering Testament (probably the most progression as
a band I have ever heard on a "best of" collection) I suggest you get "Signs
Of Chaos - The Best Of Testament"
Also.....If you like that, you HAVE to get "Live At The Fillmore"----Some
amazing shit.
-Compadre32
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:45:14 -0300
From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: re-usable song titles
Message-ID: <000601bec8ca$62269fc0$2bc55bd1@viper>
]From: Fran Brennan <okelnard@hotmail.com>
Subject: re-usable song titles
>shares "Paradigm Shift" with LTE. "Lies in the Sand", by King's X, and
>"Lines in the Sand" by DT don't quite match, but...And DT and Ty Tabor both
speaking of songs that don't quite match, there's a Pantera song called
Trail of Tears. moo.
--
Dan McCormack (dmc@dreamt.org)
Computer Engineer, WSBF-FM Clemson 88.1
http://wsbf.clemson.edu/
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:59:27 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: re-usable song titles
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE777@messaging>
>> shares "Paradigm Shift" with LTE. "Lies in the Sand", by King's X, and
>> "Lines in the Sand" by DT don't quite match, but...And DT and Ty Tabor
both
> speaking of songs that don't quite match, there's a Pantera song called
> Trail of Tears. moo.
If I'm not mistaken, there's also a Kings X song called "Trail of Tears"...
:)
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:38:48 EDT
From: MusicSnob@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: To change or not to change (not your underwear, Mosh)
Message-ID: <108150bb.24b54d18@aol.com>
As prog metal fans we often complain when a band strays too far from the
formula with which it gained its popularity (or notoriety). This, of course,
goes against the definition of "progression," but the truth is the truth. I
personally think bands can't win: if a given band changes the "wrong" way
(see: M@talli%a), the fans moan. If a band doesn't change, we also complain.
"What's your point?" you ask... A few bands I really used to enjoy have
completely stagnated and they just put out the same cds over and over.
Mercyful Fate/King Diamond, Gamma Ray, Slayer etc. are a few examples. But,
if Mercyful Fate really got experimental, the fans would bitch and King would
be staffing the local 7/11 (Come again!). $$$ vs. music purity? Is it a
business? An alternative to the day job? You might argue that none of these
bands are "prog," but I think they all at some point incorporated something
above and beyond the norm, only to have become complacent. A good example of
someone who got out at the right time and really experimented successfully
(not commercial success, mind you) was Bruce Dickinson. "Skunkworks" and to
a certain degree "The Chemical Wedding" really pushed the edges out. It
disturbs me in a way that he went back to Iron Maiden. Regressive metal?
Maybe that should be a new sub-genre. I can just see some dude posting about
the new Regressive metal disc that came in the mail... Another example was
what Flotsam and Jetsam did with "Drift," only to return to Dullsville with
the past two sleep-inducing discs.
NP: Gamma Ray - Powerplant (Regressive Metal at its best, complete with a
Derek Riggs-drawn cover. Sigh. Someday I am just going stop buying Gamma
Ray/Flotsam and Jetsam/Mercyful Fate/etc. discs but I guess I am a closet
optimist...)
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:55:02 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: re-usable song titles
Message-ID: <001101bec8f5$ab19f3a0$584afea9@korgx3>
> If I'm not mistaken, there's also a Kings X song called "Trail of
Tears"...
And also a Testament song by the same name. heh.
And I've lyrics for a song names Veil of Tears that I'll be writing
someday....
--
KorgX3 is (yay!) bored.
NP: The Man in the Iron Mask - DVD
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:45:24 -0500
From: "Tom Walling" <intoinfinity@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: What's the story?
Message-ID: <199907072346593@intoinfinity.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
OK- here's what I'm thinking. . .
What is the deal with UACM and Lines in the Sand sites? I mean, I don't want to be a bitch, and God knows they have basically done more than anyone could ever have hoped for in the past, but come on- the last update on LITS was in June; over a month ago. That used to be one of my favorite sites; now it won't even load sometimes and half the time I can't even connect to the server. What's the story Bogie?;) And with LTE2 out for a month and everything else that is going on with the new album and the such, you would think that Itchy could come up with something. Granted, I liked the recent Mike Portnoy statement, but frankly I don't really give a damn about Planet X biographies, which, if I remember correctly were the only additions for the month leading up to the 3 line Portnoy thing. It may seem stupid, but something as simple as LTE album sales status would be enough to satiate my hunger for information that I otherwise wouldn't have gotten here in Houston, TX- ev!
!
en with
all the shit I have to sort through on this list.;) So. . .I guess that was my message for this year- I bet some of you remember the shit I started last time, so let me say 'up yours' to anyone that doesn't like it ahead of time.;) JK:)
On a lighter note. . .I'm really surprised to not hear more buzz about the new LTE thing- personally, I think it is an amazing composition. The only thing I can blame as a possible cause is the relative difficulty with which you are all seemingly dealing with in finding your copies of it. I was out of town when it was released and was worried that my guy here at home that orders for me wouldn't have been able to get it until the next week- you can imagine my surprise when I hear that some of you are still trying to get it a month later. Damn- have you actually looked anywhere? I found it in Camelot music in a mall in Ashland, Kentucky- a mining town of 20,000 population. Actually, they had 5 copies on that Tuesday it was released. In fact, every CD store in town had at least one copy, and the story wasn't any different when I got home. Best Buy had 10 the day I got back. Why don't some of you try some of those leads. Stores you might find that I saw it at: Camelot!
!
Music;
Sam Goody/Musicland; Best Buy; Circuit City. . .
So why don't some of you get off the damn computer and actually go out in the real world to find it?;) It's DEFINATELY worth it.
I guess that's about it for now. . .take it easy all- I'll poke my head out again in another year or so.;)
Tom
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