YTSEJAM Digest 4975
Today's Topics:
1) Re: jethro blues & moody tull
by Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com>
2) I MOTHER EARTH
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
3) Portnoy's copying
by "Martin" <mpb@netlab.sk>
4) Paradise Lost
by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
5) MikePortnoy.com needs CD's
by Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
6) Dali's Dilemma
by "Brandon S. Jessee" <branjispad@juno.com>
7) Re: vai news
by pete gilman <pgilman@monmouth.com>
8) Re: Mullmuzzler...
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
by DWilk46577@aol.com
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
by DWilk46577@aol.com
11) DT fan spotted in St. Louis/couple upcoming shows
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
by DWilk46577@aol.com
13) LV/Mullmuzzler
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
14) Planet X pictures - 6/24/99
by PlanetXess@aol.com
15) AOL question
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
16) DT MP3's
by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
17) MP3's
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
18) Megadeth
by Alexis Ramos <alexis_ramos@yahoo.com>
19) Over 500 DT MP3s at LITS
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:28:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: jethro blues & moody tull
Message-ID: <199907152128.RAA13789@clipper.gw.tislabs.com>
>
>
>hey .. i'm not sure why but i've still yet to pick up a jethro tull or moody
>blues cd.. my floyd, rush, genesis, crimson, zappa cd consumption is at an
>alltime high but for some reason never picked up a disk from these two
>bands.. anyways..
>i need some album reviews.. thanx..
>
I'd recommend starting with one of these Jethro Tull albums:
Aqualung -- more rock oriented
Thick as a Brick -- pretty progressive, but rock too
Minstrel in the Gallery -- somewhat progressive style
I've pasted in my previous remarks on Tull that I posted to
Ytsejam:
Jethro Tull -- Tull is less classically oriented with more influences from
rock and blues. They can rock with tunes like "Aqualung" or "Cold
Wind to Valhalla" and they can be quite proggy, like in "Thick as
a Brick", with lots of dynamics. Ian Anderson's strong vocals
are phenomenal, as is Martin Barre's guitar work. "Aqualung" is
not all that proggy, but it's a strong album and is accessible.
"Minstrel in the Gallery" combines many of their rock elements
with prog complexity. "A Passion Play" is probably their most
progressive album, but is harder to get into.
I love Tull so I think they're definitely worth picking up.
As for The Moody Blues, you may want to try a greatest hits to give
you an idea of their style, or pick up "Days of Future Passed" (sp?).
Steve
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:32:08 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I MOTHER EARTH
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990715173208.0079fda0@mail.erinet.com>
I know that their new album came out on July 13th, but no stores near me
have it. It's not listed on CDNOW, either.
What is their Label? (Their official website doesn't even say)
And how do I get my hands on a copy?
Email me please if you have any info...
Dan
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:22:49 +0200
From: "Martin" <mpb@netlab.sk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Portnoy's copying
Message-ID: <001201becf10$94ec67e0$461ea8c3@h6d7z8>
Hi all,
I like Portnoy's drumming much, I also have his video
but I think he steals much from Peart. For example, on
When The Water Break is a cool hi-hat groove in 7/4 I
think which Peart plays in La Villa Strangiato. I liked that
groove much and I was slightly annoyed when Mr. Portnoy
straightly copied it. :-) Anyway, Mike is a killer.
My $.02,
Martin
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:20:10 -0000
From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Paradise Lost
Message-ID: <008501becf20$f84f4400$894d95c1@pentium1>
Just wanted to throw in another opinion on Paradise Lost.
> > WSOU played a whole chunk of them tonight - first time I heard them on
the
>> radio - and it kicked ass. Any info would be appreciated, as usual!
>
>What did you heard? old staff or the newer?
> Paradise Lost at first where a kick ass Death Metal band, with great
songs. It's
> of the few bands that changed along the way that remained really heavy
and really
> good. The best albums (IMHO) were "Icon" and the one that followed
"Draconian
> Times" were they play a mix of Death, Heavy, Gothic and God knows what
else.
> The bottom line is that these two kick major ass.
I'm not a fan of old-style PL, but I was suckered completely when I heard
'Draconian
Times' and I even like parts of 'Icon', so I guess I'm one of their fans
who has been
drawn to them since they started 'changing/progressing' - or whatever they
have
been doing over the last few years. I think that 'One Second' is a great
album and
I really like the mix of samples in with the crunching guitars. 'Host' is
not as
immediate or anywhere near as 'crunchy', but still contains meaty tracks
like 'behind
the grey' (which sounds just as heavy when played live as any of their
earlier stuff).
I think that you can draw a distinction between the studio and live
material. I think
that if all you've heard is the two most recent albums, then 'Depeche Mode'
(or
Dead Can Dance - as the band themselves would prefer) do come to mind, but
put the same material in a live context alonside the older 'heavier'
material and
you'd be surprised how heavy it sounds and how well it integrates into the
set.
Must admit though, that as a first purchase, I'd still recommend 'Draconian
Times'.
Charlie
URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:47:44 -0400
From: Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MikePortnoy.com needs CD's
Message-ID: <4.1.19990715194500.00a06e80@mail.ee.net>
IF YOU HAVE ANY DT RELATED MERCHANDISE FOR SALE OR TRADE:
PLEASE post it in the FORUM at:
http://www.mikeportnoy.com
You will be glad you did, everyday I get email from people looking to buy
whatever
they can get their hands on.
I'm going to make a special "Classifieds" section on the site just for
placing your
ad for selling/trading very soon.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!
DaveH
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:08:41 -0400
From: "Brandon S. Jessee" <branjispad@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dali's Dilemma
Message-ID: <19990715.210845.-169221.0.BranJisPAD@juno.com>
You guys gotta, if you haven't already, check out Dali's Dilemma. Their
new CD is flawless from start to finsh. It's right up there with Images.
If anyone want's to chat about them or other Magna Carta bands, email me.
~Brandon
BrANjiSpAd@juno.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:17 -0400
From: pete gilman <pgilman@monmouth.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: vai news
Message-ID: <2930.990715@monmouth.com>
CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> wrote:
CD> Any news on the Vai new stuff yet? :(
from http://www.vai.com/News/ :
NEW STEVE VAI SOLO RECORD!
Steve Vai=92s new solo record, once tentatively titled =93Where The W=
ild Things Are=94 but now
renamed =93The Ultra Zone=94, will be in stores September 7th! With m=
usicians Mike Keneally, Mike
Mangini, Robin DiMaggio, Philip Bynoe, Bryan Beller, Japanese pop her=
oes B=92z and more, Steve
comprised his seventh solo record of new tracks and tracks originally=
intended for the special
=93Elusive Light & Sound=94 recordings for the upcoming box set (no r=
elease date on that yet). The
Japanese version will feature a bonus track called =93Selfless Love=94=
, which Steve wrote for his
mother, and other titles include =93The Blood And Years=94, =93Frank=94=
, =93Jibboom=94, =93The Silent Within=94,
=93Lucky Charms=94, and =93Asian Sky=94. It=92s nearly 70 minutes of =
pure Vai, and will be in stores Sept 7
on Epic/Sony. A tour will follow, and dates will be posted in the Tou=
r Dates section (see above
link) when announced.
by the way, metacrawler ( http://www.go2net.com/search.html ) is an
excellent search engine.
regards,
pete
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:35:51 -0700
From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Mullmuzzler...
Message-ID: <012801becf4d$25d68600$92f8aa26@multimedia>
>
> Does anyone know when James LaBrie's Mullmuzzler CD is due out?
>I listened to the sample (see previous messages for URL) a couple times
>today and I want that CD! ;)
>
> Steve
August 24 Steve.
peace,
--james--
www.jamesthorpe.com
mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:09:37 EDT
From: DWilk46577@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
Message-ID: <ae8a4f84.24c034b1@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< Has anyone been successful in finding Planet X? I've been to my local Best
Buy and Circuit City but no luck. When I asked the clerks about it they
looked at me like I had monkeys flying out of my ass.
Mike
>>
Same with me!
Dave
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:13:48 EDT
From: DWilk46577@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
Message-ID: <41b43a67.24c035ac@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< << Has anyone heard the two new NIN songs!!!?!!! They kick large amounts
of
ass!
>>
AHHH, where??? WHEN??????? >>
go here for a link and some really great news:
http://www.nineinchnails.net/news/
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:02:55 -0500
From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT fan spotted in St. Louis/couple upcoming shows
Message-ID: <19990716.020255.-3839633.1.schnapster@juno.com>
Hey, I was just down in the Delmar Loop in St. Louis earlier tonight and
saw a dude wearing a DT shirt (the FII one with the three pictures on the
front). Didn't get a chance to ask if he was on the jam, so if you are
and remember some dork saying something about DT and pointing at you, it
was me.
A few shows coming to St. Louis of note to some of you on here also,
Ozric Tentacles at Mississippi Nights July 22.
Adrian Belew is playing Blueberry Hill July 25. Unfortunately, I have to
miss the Adrian Belew show since I'll be in Chicago seeing Iron Maiden.
I think that'll help me deal with it :). Also, speaking of OT, their
latest (I assume) album was featured in a rather large ad in a St. Louis
paper (Riverfront Times) for some record store. Thought that was pretty
cool.
Oh yeah, also, I went to the Cornerstone Festival a couple weeks ago.
Anyway, I was hanging out at one of the tents, waiting for some punk band
to play, I think, and noticed a familiar song coming over the PA. After
a few bars, it hit me. It was Take the Time. I went straight to the
sound man and complimented him on his taste :). I also met up with
another DT fan around that same time that's not on the jam, but knew
about a lot of the bands we all talk about, so that was cool. Also ran
into Dan Temmesfeld there (if you're still on the jam, hey :).
Dale R> Newberry
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:19:50 EDT
From: DWilk46577@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972
Message-ID: <c0089f43.24c03716@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< Just read this little news clipping:
> Citing "production difficulties," progressive metal purveyors Coal
> Chamber dropped off of their tour with Insane Clown Posse and
> Biohazard over the weekend.
OK, I've never actually HEARD Coal Chamber before...... but something
tells me they're not "purveyors of prog metal!" ;)
>>
they are not prog at all!!!
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:33:42 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LV/Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F44E9@ms.kallback.com>
> LEMUR VOICE - Divided (Telstar-Sky TCD 20002-2)
Is this import only? Can we get it in the US for less than $25?
> Does anyone know when James LaBrie's Mullmuzzler CD is due out?
August 24.
It looks like it has a new cover too. http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/
Trevor-still pissed about Styx
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:28:20 EDT
From: PlanetXess@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Planet X pictures - 6/24/99
Message-ID: <a9f0ebe3.24c06344@aol.com>
http://members.aol.com/planetxess/
Go there to check out pictures of Planet X:
Derek Sherinian
Virgil Donati
Tony MacAlpine
Philip Bynoe
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Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:18:15 +0200
From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AOL question
Message-ID: <tku908g6dxk.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>
If anyone here is from the USA and uses AOL maybe you can answer a
question for me. When connected to AOL can you telnet somewhere. For
instance get an MS-DOS prompt and type "telnet blind-guardian.com".
Do you then get a log-in prompt? Also is it possible to find a list
of local AOL dial up numbers somewhere on the Internet?
I am wondering because I am thinking of buying a lap top but I want to
be able to connect to the net when I am in the US instead of here in
Germany. So I was just going to stock pile those free AOL CDs to
accomplish this. But if I can't telnet anywhere then it is useless.
thanks for any help people can give me.
Jason
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:05:18 -0400 From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT MP3's Message-ID: <378F1FFC.798FD6F@mindspring.com>
Does anyone know a good url to get some of DT MP3's, for instance, of their christmas cd's and b-side tunes? Some of the sites located o n their official site have expired links and whatnot so I am looking for more stuff. Thanks brothers and sisters.
Bytheby and bythway, like Mike said, everyone should goto http://www.ivorygate.com/fw
and download the new Ray Alder tune from his forthcoming CD. Incredible is just the first word that comes to mind. Awesome is the second, third and fourth.
Also, Kings-X is tonight, in NJ, so if anyone is perhaps going to this show, stop by and say hi, I'm a short dude wearing a Kawasaki shirt and carrying a semi-automatic (just kidding about the last part). c'aio.
SM
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:04:01 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MP3's Message-ID: <378F1FB1.707A75DF@isd.net>
Josh Calkin wrote: >NP: George Carlin - Some People are Stupid
Dude! Do you have any of his older albums? If so, I'd be willing to do unspeakable things for you if you could convert some to MP3's and send them off to me. :)
Korg!!! Get your "Fragile eggshell mind" out of the gutter. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BTW, Ray Alder's "Engine" is gonna rule! Check out the MP3! http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/a_engine.htm
The entire tune "Alone" is available at the bottom of the page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
About the Death-Metal vocals... I DON'T like them. End of story. To me, it would be like shoving hot (off the grill) bratwursts in repetition up my ass. I can't imagine it "growing" on me.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexis Ramos <alexis_ramos@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Megadeth Message-ID: <19990716154457.4430.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
I saw the new Megadeth video last night, and the video itself was pretty cool. What I didn't care for much was the song, at least on first listen. I thought they were going back to their more aggressive style, but at least that song is very commercial sounding, not much thrash in there. I hope the new album has less of those songs, even though most of them are pretty cool, but the more aggressive Megadeth songs are just much better.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:52:04 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Over 500 DT MP3s at LITS Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990716123625.00b06220@po7.mit.edu>
I recently posted over 500 MB of new Dream Theater MP3s at Lines in the Sand. I think you'll find something there you like, including:
A Kick Into A Dream Consciously Unreal Acoustic Dreams Falling Into Infinity Demos (minus RTK and WAYN, of course) Chicago 11/1/97
You can also find some other miscellaneous b-sides and rarities in the audio section which don't fall under the above 5 releases.
Enjoy, Bogie
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At 05:12 AM 7/16/99 -0700, Cyberwolf wrote:
>Does anyone know a good url to get some of DT MP3's, for >instance, of their christmas cd's and b-side tunes? Some of the >sites located o n their official site have expired links and whatnot >so I am looking for more stuff. Thanks brothers and sisters. > >Bytheby and bythway, like Mike said, everyone should goto >http://www.ivorygate.com/fw > >and download the new Ray Alder tune from his forthcoming CD. >Incredible is just the first word that comes to mind. Awesome is >the second, third and fourth. > >Also, Kings-X is tonight, in NJ, so if anyone is perhaps going to >this show, stop by and say hi, I'm a short dude wearing a >Kawasaki shirt and carrying a semi-automatic (just kidding about >the last part). c'aio. > >SM
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