YTSEJAM Digest 4976
Today's Topics:
1) one more for the mindbend
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
2) clockwork
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
3) IME, Dali's, Gordian Knot, etc.
by "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-deja.com>
4) Re: death metal vocals
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
5) LV and AOL
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
6) Just my opinion
by DaveH <electra@ee.net>
7) Re: IME, Dali's, Gordian Knot, etc.
by "T.D. Smith" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
8) Re: Planet X pictures - 6/24/99
by "T.D. Smith" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
9) Dream Theater News of the Week!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
10) Rare DT CDs for sale
by "Michael Bradley" <mojovibe@hotmail.com>
11) Re: : I MOTHER EARTH
by "Derek Daniel" <derekdaniel@lineone.net>
12) Re:PORTNOY A RIP OFF?/ NEW MEGADETH TUNE
by JKorby1973@aol.com
13) ADAM'S DT MP3'S
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
14) MP sighting at Maiden concert
by Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com>
15) Fates Warning not playing ProgPower 99!
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
16) Re: Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic Tour - Europe '99
by Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
17) RE: In Flames info
by Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
18) Zappa/Belew
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:03:27 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: one more for the mindbend
Message-ID: <19990716180327.77238.qmail@hotmail.com>
last week sometime, i mentioned how Saturday the 17th of July was gonna be a
strange and fabulous concert confluence in the city of Detroit? Maybe this
kind of convergence happens in New York or Chicago or LA on a regular basis,
but Detroit, never...."Seal, with Tony Levin, Ozric Tentacles, and Tiles all
playing on the same day" was what i mentioned last time, and it seems I
forgot the most ridiculous one.....some dudes by the names of Domingo,
Carreras and Pavarotti are at Tiger Stadium tomorrow, too.....
and I'm still going to Ohio for a wedding
timing is everything, and in this cse, my buddy's timing stinks :)
partha
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:02:09 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: clockwork
Message-ID: <000501becfbd$b48c1340$37351ec8@carlos.yunque.net>
I just got the new clockwork disc, surface tension, and well...its not
exactly what i was expecting. Maybe im comparing it to Dali's Dilemma's
debut, but i find it very lacking. The music itself is good..but what really
sucks is the sound, i mean every instrument is audible and at good levels,
but the individual sounds of the instruments sound like it was recorded in a
garage! I mean it doesnt sound too different to their Weaving webs of time
demo! ( apart from the new singer, which is ok, but i didnt like him that
much either ) Maybe i was expecting to be blown away, or my standards have
been raised to high by DD's mindblowing debut, but im dissapointed. There
are some highlights, and ill get to them once i can point them out.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:39:53 -0700
From: "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-deja.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IME, Dali's, Gordian Knot, etc.
Message-ID: <HCOJONOIBFJFAAAA@my-deja.com>
Not only does CDNow not list the new I Mother Earth, they don't list their other two albums, either. What the f**k is up with that? Scenery and Fish is one of the greatest things ever... Oh, and I think you can go to the bands web site and hear the entire new album in RealAudio. The new singer sounds a lot like a toned-down verion of Edwin.
I've listened to Dali's 'Manifesto...' about twenty times by now and it gets better with every listen. Man, what an album. There's a ton of good bands out there that just don't have that extra ounce of 'ooomph'. DD has it in spades. Being able to write a coherent tune helps too. And with his Mullmuzzler stuff as well, Matt Guillory ain't all that far away from the progmetal hall of fame...
FINALLY got Gordian Knot. Sean Malone is a genius. And does anything on Earth sound better than a Stick? I think not. Great music - smooth, quiet, hard, driving. Get it.
Mike
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:01:41 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: death metal vocals
Message-ID: <19990716200142.21702.qmail@hotmail.com>
I hated pantera the first time I heard them, because of the growly vocals (i
know pantera is far less growly than some other bands, but that's the
example i'm using). I also couldn't stand to listen to the Blue Grass Boys
the first time I heard them (and don't get me started on Rush!). I like 'em
all now, because I listened to the OTHER parts of the music, without paying
much attention to the vocals, and they just grew on me.
on a completely unrelated note, I FINALLY picked up King's X's "Tape Head"
yesterday. Has anyone else noticed that it sounds a lot like Doug Pinnick's
"Poundhound", whereas "Ear Candy" bears extreme resemblance to Ty's
"Moonflower Lane"? The cool thing about King's X's older albums is that the
grungy, bluesy Doug side and the beatlesy, trippy Ty side came together to
form the songs. Now it's pretty much one or the other. I know that King's
X has every right to play whatever the hell kind of music they feel like,
and I still enjoy their new music. It's just dissapointing that their not
as varied as they used to be
Fran "Banjoman" Brennan
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:09:27 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LV and AOL
Message-ID: <378F9177.FFB6348C@ucla.edu>
As for "Divided".. is this the Magna Carta release? I forget which one
it was, but I remember telling Marcel about finding one of their cd's in
Tower for $16.99. I described the cover and he said it was the MC
release. Sorry but I forget the name ;)
AOL: I just tried telnet to get my email so apparently it works. I'd
not get AOL as a dialup.. it's a pain in the ass if you want to read
newsgroups, because AOL apparently does not have a nntp server, so yoiu
have to read ng's on AOL software. This is a bitch cus it doesn't tell
you who sent the message and how many replies there are unless you
highlight the thread and click on "info". Yes, there is a list of new
dialup numbers. Select "new local number" and type in the area code and
there you go.
~~Amanda
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:50:19 -0400
From: DaveH <electra@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Just my opinion
Message-ID: <4.1.19990716164858.009fdec0@mail.ee.net>
Someone wrote.....
>I like Portnoy's drumming much, I also have his video
>but I think he steals much from Peart.
Well, JMHO, ya gotta be pretty damn good to steal from Peart ;-)
LOL!
DaveH
http://www.mikeportnoy.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:00:22 +0100
From: "T.D. Smith" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: IME, Dali's, Gordian Knot, etc.
Message-ID: <005901becfce$be429600$ede62ac2@elydian>
> I've listened to Dali's 'Manifesto...' about twenty times by now and it
gets better with every listen. Man, what an >album. There's a ton of good
bands out there that just don't have that extra ounce of 'ooomph'. DD has
it in spades. >Being able to write a coherent tune helps too. And with his
Mullmuzzler stuff as well, Matt Guillory ain't all that far >away from the
progmetal hall of fame...
I'm sorry to be a snobby git, but I said this two years ago but did you guys
listen?
Incedentally, if Matt's listening, what happened to the really old demos? I
know some of them became a certain part of the make-up of Manifesto, but
some stuff, like Conviction, and that guitar riff from the original This
Time Around. Is 24 Eyes ever going to resurface? Incedentally, do you still
keep in touch with Jeff?
Thanks again for the tapes.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:10:08 +0100 From: "T.D. Smith" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Planet X pictures - 6/24/99 Message-ID: <006101becfd0$20c0b540$ede62ac2@elydian>
> Go there to check out pictures of Planet X: > Derek Sherinian > Virgil Donati > Tony MacAlpine > Philip Bynoe
What happened to Brett Garsed?
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 16:02:45 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater News of the Week! Message-ID: <001601b81624$f537d7c0$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
ROME, ITALY (AP) -- John Petrucci visited his ancestral homeland earlier this week to rally support in favor of his new "Ragu is not really Italian" campaign. Drawing a large crowd of anti-Ragu activists, he led a march into the Vatican where over one million Italians, Sicilians, and assorted other nationalities convened upon the Citta del Vaticano and hailed Pope John Paul II. Despite failing health, the Pope greeted Petrucci and his audience with great fervor and addressed the crowd. "...true Italian cuisine does not come from bottles in supermarkets, but from the heart..." Petrucci does not seek to force a discontinuance of Ragu products, but wishes to enlighten the public as to the falsehoods of their portrayal of their spaghetti sauce to be "real Italian."
Authorities from Lipton, Inc., owners of the Ragu line of spaghetti sauce, claimed that Petrucci's comments are unfounded and that their sauces come straight from Mama's kitchen. Petrucci commented that such gimmicks are complete fallacies and produced aerial photographs of the large factories in which Ragu is processed shocking consumers across the world. Stunned consumer, Shelly Carter stated, "This is an atrocity! We've been misled for so many years!"
When questioned as to his motives, Petrucci said, "It's only fair that people know the truth." When asked where the road will lead him next, he said that he would like to tell the world that Gerber's Baby Food really isn't manufactured by babies. This reporter is anxious to see what evidence can be turned up in that case. John Petrucci is the critically acclaimed guitarist for the progressive rock band Dream Theater. -- KorgX3 NP: Enchant - Break
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:36:49 EDT From: "Michael Bradley" <mojovibe@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rare DT CDs for sale Message-ID: <19990716223649.35447.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey all,
After much consideration, I have decided to part ways with three VERY collectable DT CDs. Here goes:
Acoustic Dreams #305 (Yes, it's original with mint liners, etc.)
Antiquities #500 (The last number in the run! Mint)
Precious Things #314 (Again, Mint)
So as not to make this too ridiculous, I will take bids for the next few days. I will keep all bidders notified in private emails as to what the current bid is every day. Hopefully, this can be wrapped up quickly depending on interest. Gentlemen, start your engines!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:13:32 +0100 From: "Derek Daniel" <derekdaniel@lineone.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: : I MOTHER EARTH Message-ID: <021a01becfdd$87b59920$332f63c3@default>
Hi Dan As far as I know their label is Capitol
Best Wishes Derek
I know that their new album came out on July 13th, but no stores near me have it. It's not listed on CDNOW, either. What is their Label? (Their official website doesn't even say) And how do I get my hands on a copy? Email me please if you have any info... Dan +- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - This email contains stroboscopic effects that may +- adversely affect epilepsy sufferers -+
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:12:12 EDT From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:PORTNOY A RIP OFF?/ NEW MEGADETH TUNE Message-ID: <bff1a835.24c1245c@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-07-16 13:04:26 EDT, you write:
<< I like Portnoy's drumming much, I also have his video but I think he steals much from Peart. For example, on When The Water Break is a cool hi-hat groove in 7/4 I think which Peart plays in La Villa Strangiato. I liked that groove much and I was slightly annoyed when Mr. Portnoy straightly copied it. :-) Anyway, Mike is a killer. >>
Oh c'mon! Mike is way too good to be called a rip off artist! But I guess it's probably easier to point out the few things he plays that we don't like- rather than list off all of the amazing cool shit he does that you we like. So I guess I'll give you that one.
<< I saw the new Megadeth video last night, and the video itself was pretty cool. What I didn't care for much was the song, at least on first listen. I thought they were going back to their more aggressive style, but at least that song is very commercial sounding, not much thrash in there. I hope the new album has less of those songs, even though most of them are pretty cool, but the more aggressive Megadeth songs are just much better.>>
Yeah, the song is ok I think. But I saw the video too, and the song seemed like it ended in barely 3 minutes!!! I don't even remember there being a guitar solo either!? Am I wrong? What's with that? Either there wasn't one, or it went by too fast and I wasn't paying enough attention. Oh well. At least Marty plays some cool bluesy licks at the beginning- great tone too. PEACE!!!! JK
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:23:47 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ADAM'S DT MP3'S Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990716212233.009a8bc0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
I have been trying to download the latest DT show put up on adam's ftp site, ftp://24.5.106.175. I download the denbosch show, and I go to play it and I get silence. I have made sure I was in binary mode, thank you. Adam, what is the deal? I tried with ftp explorer, and the win95 ftp client. Help me.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:41:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MP sighting at Maiden concert Message-ID: <19990717044117.4036.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello everyone, I just got back from the Iron Maiden concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom. All I have to say is, for 40+ year olds, IM kicks more ass than most bands in their 20s. Bruce and the rest of the bands were dynamos thoughout the show, from the first song to the encores. A great light show, great sounds and great stage set made for an unforgetable night. Among the Ytsejammers I saw there were Ytsejim (I hope you guys got home all right), Josh Raisel (did you get backstage?) and none other than Mike Portnoy, who stood with his wife about ten rows in front of me. I didn't notice him until right before IM came on. I ran over to him to say hi and blam, the lights go out and IM hits the stage. I was gonna say hi after the show, but he was gone. I bet he went backstage to see some old friends from across the pond. : )
If you get a chance to see IM if they come to your town, don't miss it!
Later, Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:09:35 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>, Subject: Fates Warning not playing ProgPower 99! Message-ID: <3790100F.F8783AF3@ivorygate.com>
For an explaination about the cancellation of Wacken and ProgPower, see the note from Jim Matheos at Island In The Stream ~ http://www.ivorygate.com/fw
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://listen.to/ytseradio <<<
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:14:18 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic Tour - Europe '99 Message-ID: <3790658A.3E326DF7@2.sbbs.se>
I am very interested in the Sweden clinics, but someone will have to explain to me what "same info#" means. Same phone number as the line above or what? And is this post really from Mike?
Cheers!
=A6 Andreas Skarin =A6 =A6 Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet =A6 =A6 http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se =A6
Portnoy420@aol.com wrote:
> Sun Sept 19 - Birmingham Drum Fest, UK (info- 01384-565-422) > Mon Sept 20 - Leeds, UK (same info #) > Tues Sept 21 - Reading, UK (same info #) > Wed Sept 22 - Rome, Italy (info- 39-02-935-961) > Thurs Sept 23 - Pisa, Italy (same info #) > Fri Sept 24 - Madrid, Spain (info- 34-91-680-1505) > Sat Sept 25 - Sevilla, Spain (same info #) > Mon Sept 27 - Lisbon, Portugal (info- 351-1445-8190) > Tues Sept 28 - Oporto, Portugal (same info #) > Wed Sept 29 - Hellendoom, Netherlands (info- 31-02975-67788) > Thurs Sept 30 - Rotterdam, Netherlands (same info #) > Sat Oct 2 - Copenhagen, Denmark (info- 46-0303-92260) > Sun Oct 3 - Gothenburg Drum Festival, Sweden (same info #) > Mon Oct 4 - Borlange, Sweden (same info #) > Tues Oct 5 - Helsinki, Finland (info- 358-9757-1344) > Wed Oct 6 - Tampere, Finland (same info #) > Thurs Oct 7 - Lille, France (info- 33-01-3995-2688) > Fri Oct 8 - Nancy, France (same info #)
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:15:51 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: In Flames info Message-ID: <379065E6.D7854A2A@2.sbbs.se>
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This is for the guy who asked for In Flames info: In Flames (one of my favorite bands), are from Sweden and have released
* Lunar Strain * Subterranean * Jester Race * Whoracle * Black-Ash Inheritance (EP) * Colony
In that order. I think "Subterranean" (EP) is the best, along with "Jeste= r Race" . The next release "Whoracle" was OK, but Colony, as I've said before, was a big dis= appointment for me as is sounded just like "Jester Race" and "Whoracle" If you want to check th= em out you should go to: http://inflames.com
Cheers!
=A6 Andreas Skarin =A6 =A6 Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet =A6 =A6 http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se =A6
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <tt>This is for the guy who asked for In Flames info:</tt> <br><tt>In Flames (one of my favorite bands), are from Sweden and have released</tt> <ul> <li> <tt>Lunar Strain</tt></li>
<li> <tt>Subterranean</tt></li>
<li> <tt>Jester Race</tt></li>
<li> <tt>Whoracle</tt></li>
<li> <tt>Black-Ash Inheritance (EP)</tt></li>
<li> <tt>Colony</tt></li> </ul> <tt>In that order. I think "Subterranean" (EP) is the best, along with "Jester Race" . The next release "Whoracle" was OK, but Colony, as I've said before, was a big disappointment for me as is sounded just like "Jester Race" and "Whoracle" If you want to check them out you should go to: <a href="http://inflames.com">http://inflames.com></tt> <p><tt>Cheers!</tt> <p><tt>¦ Andreas Skarin ¦</tt> <br><tt>¦ Svenska Dream Theater Sällskapet ¦</tt> <br><tt>¦ <a href="http://sdts.cjb.net">http://sdts.cjb.net> - <a href="mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se">mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se</a> ¦</tt> <br> </html>
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:51:21 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Zappa/Belew Message-ID: <37906029.A363BB9F@mol.com.mk>
I've been listening 2 all days long Zappa CDs, I think I'm loosing my mind! :)
Anyway, I saw a photo of Zappa gig with Adrian Belew accompaning him? What was this, did Belew played guitar on some albums, studio or live or .. what? Also, can someone tell what is the "You can't do that on stage anymore" set about? Like, the triple "Shut up and play yer guitar" is all guitar solos, not much songs oriented stuff. And while it is freaking awesome, it makes your brain voils after 1 hours of Zappa soloing! :) I need structure once in a while, even it's the weird Zappa structure. Is "You can't do that ..." songs oriented?
P.S. Zappa is the most inventive musician I ever heard! And I heard a lot! ;o)
NP: Zappa - Roxy & Elswhere, "Cheepnis" (YA GOTTA HEAR THIS ONE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!) -- CyberMuffin ________________________________________
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