YTSEJAM Digest 5002
Today's Topics:
1) DT tribute album?
by Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
2) Chromakey news
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
3) CD, tape, mp3
by Chris Oates <coates@mx1.objy.com>
4) Nuno n' Co.
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
5) Re: The Gathering
by Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
6) Re: Re: MP3
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
7) Re: The Gathering
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
8) Re: the mp3 revolution
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
9) JM reference in Bass Player
by CptFufu@aol.com
10) Re: Extreme/Saigon Kick
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
11) CLARITY is looking for vocalist!
by Sami Poimala <spoimala@st.jyu.fi>
12) Iron Maiden Questions
by MTeiper@aol.com
13) g-g-g-g-gahhh!
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
14) No Holds Barred Radio about to take the air
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
15) First 10 FREE ! (uce)
by Business Consultations <betterconcepts@mailcity.com>
16) Re: the mp3 revolution
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
17) Re: g-g-g-g-gahhh!
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
18) Re: Iron Maiden Questions
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:23:57 +0200
From: Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT tribute album?
Message-ID: <379DF93D.7C7FCD1@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hi,
what happened with that tribute album? All I've heard it was released,
but never heard a review or anything... I downloaded that 0.04 microsec
mp3 from Energie site, some girl singed YNM, that's all... Anyone having
bigger samples of it or the album itself?
Cheers,
Bungle
http://www.dtcovers.frag.hu
http://w3.swi.hu/funpic
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chromakey news
Message-ID: <19990727182804.2664.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
"Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu> wrote:
> "Kevin Moore has been writing new Chroma Key
material on piano for the
> last month and a half. For the next few weeks, Kevin
will be auditioning
> several musicians (none of whom played on Dead Air
For Radios"...
> It would have been nice to see Zonder come back, but
I'm sure KevMo
> won't dissappoint.
The unconfirmed line-up for the new ChromaKey disc
will be:
Kevin Moore - Keys/Vocals
Stuart Matthewman - Guitars/Sax
Paul Craddick - Drums
John Myung - Bass
Special Guests:
David Gilmour - Guitar
Tori Amos - Vocals
The new recording will be a 42 minute concept album
entitled "The Miracle Sleeper".
Tracks will be:
1) 5am Late Sunday
2) Lucid Dreams of You
3) Can't sleep with the sun in my eyes.
4) Random Distractions (Parts 1-5)
I) Muzzle the Dog.
II) I didn't need that phone anyway.
III) The Woodpecker must die.
IV) Kitty goes to the Chinese Restuarant as soon as
I get up.
V) Death of the Leaf-Blower Man.
5) Lucid Dreams Part 4
6) Sleep Apnea
7) Don't let the sun come up on me.
8) The Eyelid Cartoons
9) Her Nocturnal Enuresis keeps me warm at night.
10) Don't wake me up before you go.
11) Dawn Simulation
Bonus Track: Metropolis Dream Suite.
My $.02, BH
;o)
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:40:10 -0700
From: Chris Oates <coates@mx1.objy.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD, tape, mp3
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990727114010.009a0950@objypop>
>Personally, I'm not. CD's were supposed to make cassette tapes
>obsolete, and even though CD's are now 15+(?) years into the
>market, I still see cassettes for sale down at my local
>Strawberries. The fact is, once a given infrastructure is in place, it
>takes quite a bit of pushing to get people to change. MP3 is still in
>it's infancy, and really doesn't have the portability yet to make it a
>real threat.
CDs could not make casette tapes obsolete, since you could not record on to
a cd (originally) -- CDs did, however, make vinyl records obsolete, except
in fringe circles, such as super-high-end analog gear, and the
club/dance/dj end.
MP3 will not replace CDs since the sound quality is not as good, and it's
not a medium so much as an encoding. You can't really hand something that
is a definitivie "mp3" to a friend, it still requires another transmission
medium, such as a floppy, burned CD or ethernet/modem connection. There's
nothing to stop someone from making a CD boom box that plays .mp3 files off
of a CD. The two technologies are unrelated.
I won't go into why the record "industry" fears the mp3 "industry" -- we
should all know that by now. The MP3 "Industry" (if it can be called that)
is still really in its first stages. It's far too early to start decrying
the death of anything just yet.
~Chris
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:44:44 EDT
From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Nuno n' Co.
Message-ID: <19990727184445.21417.qmail@hotmail.com>
>has anyone heard Nuno's new band? is called Mourning Widows, Mike Mangini
>was supposed to record with them but the album was released without
>him...the album is good, some people say is Nuno's best (even better than 3
>sides) but I personally like some other stuff better...it has some killer
>songs though
I haven't heard 'em yet, but I remember Nuno put some flyers up around the
Berklee campus a few semesters ago when he was looking for a drummer.
kevin
p.s. Before any confusion starts, MusicSnob is Kevin, I'm kevin.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:00:40 -0700
From: Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Gathering
Message-ID: <379E01D7.272E6A65@earthlink.net>
Can anyine point me to a website with some MP3s of newer The Gathering songs? All the talk about
the newer CDs with a female vocalist has me interested. I'm not a fan of cookie monster vocals but
am a big fan of female vocalists. . .
Thanks,
Tom
ps. Are they playing again in SoCal anytime soon???
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:09:30 -0400
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Re: MP3
Message-ID: <000901bed863$8f74a1e0$8e26f7a5@pbcustomer>
I agree that I can't see MP3 taking over the market. Maybe it will make up
a small niche, like say MiniDisc, but I beleive it is still a "hacker's"
medium. And when MP3 completely goes mainstream, the "hackers" will come up
with something new.
What I do think MP3, and the like, will do is keep the recording industry on
it's toes, by forcing them to deliver us a better product, and who knows,
maybe a cheaper one too!!
~~Art
www.joestump.com
"Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
wrote:
<<Personally, I'm not. CD's were supposed to make cassette tapes
obsolete, and even though CD's are now 15+(?) years into the
market, I still see cassettes for sale down at my local
Strawberries. The fact is, once a given infrastructure is in place, it
takes quite a bit of pushing to get people to change. MP3 is still in
it's infancy, and really doesn't have the portability yet to make it a
real threat.>>>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:13:54 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Gathering
Message-ID: <379E04F2.851714F@yunque.net>
If you have icq, please contact me thru it, my UIN is 1254229
ill gladly encode some Gathering for your listening pleasure
Tom Tubbiola wrote:
> Can anyine point me to a website with some MP3s of newer The Gathering songs? All the talk about
> the newer CDs with a female vocalist has me interested. I'm not a fan of cookie monster vocals but
> am a big fan of female vocalists. . .
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> ps. Are they playing again in SoCal anytime soon???
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:04:08 -0400
From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: the mp3 revolution
Message-ID: <006b01bed86b$3069e860$2851c6d1@guest3382>
I actually read in interesting article in Rolling Stone on "the mp3 war".
It was about the possibility of mp3 eventually replacing CD's, and had
some information about mp3.com going public (stocks), as well as Alanis
Morrisette's huge mp3.com shareholding.
Anyway, the article said that the artists themselves have, for the most
part, no objection to the distribution of music over the net in an mp3
type format. They hope someday to make it marketable, and many artists
see these formats as a way to regain control of their music from record
labels, and their monopoly of how music is distributed.
Anyone interested should check out the article. It's in the Rolling Stone
with Nicole Kidman on the front holding a hat over her bare bosoms. If
you can't find it, I guess I could type up a copy of it for those who want
to read it, if asked nicely...
Regards,
Josh Calkin:
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony
E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
ICQ: 22473371
AOL IM: Mortua
IRC: Mortua
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:06:33 EDT
From: CptFufu@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JM reference in Bass Player
Message-ID: <d9ac017c.24cf6b49@aol.com>
"Rivers deftly slides between music and noise, moving from propulsive
root-throttling to John Myung-like complexity in an instant"
the guys from bass player are talking sam rivers, the bassist from limp
bizkit. How can u possibly compare JM to somebody like that, i dont know,
just kinda pissed me off.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:10:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Extreme/Saigon Kick
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990727150459.9178A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
As you all are I was a big Extreme-head. i own Prono, 3 sides, and waiting
for the punchline. I was watching a VH1 special on hair bands, and that
song "Mutha" was on there. I have always been weary of buying the first
album, does anyone have it? Mutha seems to rock, but also seems a bit
childish.
As far as Siagon Kick goes, they still rule. There last studio album
"Bastards" will be released sometime in September in Japan, and bvb will
have it. STA seems to have promise. It was rumored they were given the
largest signing bonus any new band has ever gotten. I can't wait for
fall:Doubledrive, Sevendust, Megadeth, Stuck Mojo, Saigon Kick, Dream
Theater, Queensryche all have new albums coming out! It's going to ne
METAL!!!!!!
Kurt
NP-Bruce Dickinson-the chemical wedding
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Airheads
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:26:05 +0300 (EEST)
From: Sami Poimala <spoimala@st.jyu.fi>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: CLARITY is looking for vocalist!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9907272316450.14040-100000@silmu.st.jyu.fi>
Hi all!
Sorry for NDTC, but I'm becoming desperate because of the lack of lead
singer. We have a competent group of musicians but what is a good band
without a GOOD vocalist? Well, an instrumental band but... :)
Russel Allen -type is the best that fits our band, but although you
weren't *him*, don't hesitate to contact!
We _almost_have_a_record_deal_ so we are serious.
Our music can be heard at www.mp3.com/clarity
We are located at the Middle Finland, Jyv=E4skyl=E4.
We have very talented drummer and bassist but because their contributions
to the band don't meet my and the guitarist's requirements, we are
considering them to be replaced. So if you are a singer, drummer or
bassist, contact me privately!
Thanks,
*------------------------+-+----------------------+*
*| Sami Poimala |*|**********************|*
*+-----------------------+*|* Dream Theater *|*
*| spoimala@st.jyu.fi |*|*www.dreamtheater.net*|*
*| www.jyu.fi/~spoimala |*+----------------------+*
*+-----------------------+*|* Uriah Heep *|*
*|University of Jyv=E4skyl=E4|*|* www.uriah-heep.com *|*
*+-----------------------+-+----------------------+*
The piece of today:
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:55:35 EDT
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Iron Maiden Questions
Message-ID: <63818990.24cf92e7@aol.com>
Hey Gang -
With all this talk of Maiden lately, I've been digging out all their CD's and
taking a trip down memory lane. I wish that I could see them on this tour
(grrr!) 'cause their set list sounds KILLER!! Anyway, I have a couple of
questions regarding the boyz, and I hope that someone out there can help...
1.) What was the intro the band used on the "Piece Of Mind" tour? I have
an UNREAL boot from the tour called "Die With Your Boots On". BTW, if any
Maiden fans have a chance to pick this one up, do so! The quality and
performance are both top notch! Anywho, there was a symphonic type of intro
before they burst onto the stage with "Where Eagles Dare". Having never seen
the movie, I was wondering if the intro was the theme song for the flick
"Where Eagles Dare".
2.) The AMAZING intro the band used on the "Somewhere In Time" tour, I am
pretty sure, was from the movie "Blade Runner". BTW, another killer boot to
keep your eyes open for is called "The Greediness".... a great CD of a tour
that for some reason has not been documented much. Anyway, the reason I know
the intro was from Blade Runner is because I saw the movie's closing credits
one day while flipping channels, and there was a variation on the Maiden
intro that was playing while the credits rolled. So I bought the soundtrack
by Vangelis. The closing theme I'd heard is included on the CD, but that's
the closest thing to the Maiden intro that's on the CD. My question is, are
there other pieces of music in the movie that are not included on the CD, and
if so, and if anyone knows the exact piece of music IM used for their intro,
where can I find a good recording of it on CD?
While discussing the "Somewhere In Time" tour, does ANYONE out there have a
definitive boot, either audio or video, from the tour they want to sell or
trade? I have "The Greediness" CD, and a show from Madison WI on CD, I
think, and a video from Troy NY. From what I've heard, the European tour had
a much better set list than the USA tour. They cut out songs like "Sea Of
Madness" and "Where Eagles Dare" from the American tour. I'm dying to get my
hands on a complete, uncut, mint recording of a show on the European tour if
they played all that I think they did. Anyway, e-mail me if you have any
stuff from this tour you're willing to part with or trade for.
Thanx in advance, Jammers!! Oh yeah..... DTC? DT opened for Maiden in '92,
and MP was at the recent NYC show! :-)
Up the Irons!!
- Matt T.
NP: In Flames "Colony" (Not as bad as some on the Jam have said. I like
"Whoracle" better, but this is pretty damn good too!)
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:18:47 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: g-g-g-g-gahhh!
Message-ID: <379E3E56.BB9A06CA@bigfoot.com>
>If you're going to go that far, you may as well rig
>TRL to play a DT video. Some people did that a few
>months ago so that TRL would play a New Kids video.
As a general rule, any "request" show outside a college campus is full
of shit. The whole concept of letting the people decide...all a farce!
Didn't you learn anything from the Hank The Angry Dwarf debacle?
I posted something about this a few months ago. MTV has no interest in
playing what the people want. They'll play what sells, and that's not
the same thing.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:54:16 -0400
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: pc-audio@egroups.com, ytsejam@ax.com, midi-mag@maelstrom.stjohns.edu
Subject: No Holds Barred Radio about to take the air
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990727195027.00a2a980@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
The ever controversial No Holds Barred Radio will air in about 15 minutes.
See what all the controversy is about. Point winamp to
216.32.166.89:8448, or go to http://yp.shoutcast.com or
http://sf.live365.com and click on rock as the genre and scroll down to
find us. Our email is nhbradio@home.com. Enjoy.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: the mp3 revolution
Message-ID: <19990728010300.295.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
--- Josh Calkin <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Anyway, the article said that the artists themselves
> have, for the most
> part, no objection to the distribution of music over
> the net in an mp3
> type format. They hope someday to make it
> marketable, and many artists
> see these formats as a way to regain control of
> their music from record
> labels, and their monopoly of how music is
> distributed.
I must agree. A lot of jammers seem to think that mp3
will somehow make CDs obsolete. It would take a
miracle from God On High himself to make that happen.
I think record labels are more likely to be done away
with, but the truth is even that is unlikely since
record labels can promote the shit out of their
artists. An mp3 cannot promote itself. It's a sort
of Mexican standoff, really. Record labels have the
money, mp3 has the audiences captivated. This will be
interesting to watch, but as I stated, it's not going
to make any immediate difference beyond thinning a lot
of corporate bankbooks, which suits me fine since
they're a bunch of cocksuckers anyway...
===
*Trent
"Here he comes, he's a man of the land he's Leatherman, smile on his face, axe in his hand."
Eddie Vedder, '98
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: g-g-g-g-gahhh!
Message-ID: <19990728011133.4705.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com>
--- Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> As a general rule, any "request" show outside a
> college campus is full
> of shit. The whole concept of letting the people
> decide...all a farce!
> Didn't you learn anything from the Hank The Angry
> Dwarf debacle?
>
> I posted something about this a few months ago. MTV
> has no interest in
> playing what the people want. They'll play what
> sells, and that's not
> the same thing.
Alright, w/o drudging up an ancient thread, Backstreet
Boys are a big seller. That's all there is to it.
I'm not a BSB fan and I don't think I ever will be,
but the fact is that they're hella marketable. So MTV
sees that and they think to themselves "Hm, now what
videos should we play? Menudo, KC & The Sunshine Band
or Backstreet Boys?" Common sense dictates that since
BSB are so popular, you'd be a fool to not capatilize
on that popularity yourself and play their videos.
Why? B/c the public wants to see those videos. How
do you know? B/c that's what they're buying. There
really is no difference.
===
*Trent
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Eddie Vedder, '98
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:37:09 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Questions
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990728033709.00e7733c@pi-r-squared.com>
>
>2.) The AMAZING intro the band used on the "Somewhere In Time" tour, I am
>pretty sure, was from the movie "Blade Runner". BTW, another killer boot to
>keep your eyes open for is called "The Greediness".... a great CD of a tour
>that for some reason has not been documented much. Anyway, the reason I know
>the intro was from Blade Runner is because I saw the movie's closing credits
>one day while flipping channels, and there was a variation on the Maiden
>intro that was playing while the credits rolled. So I bought the soundtrack
>by Vangelis. The closing theme I'd heard is included on the CD, but that's
>the closest thing to the Maiden intro that's on the CD. My question is, are
>there other pieces of music in the movie that are not included on the CD, and
>if so, and if anyone knows the exact piece of music IM used for their intro,
>where can I find a good recording of it on CD?
Hey you came out ahead neway. That is one of the best movie scores EVER!
Vangelis is awesome... as for the piece you're looking for, it might be on
one of his other cd's.
Palpatine
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