YTSEJAM Digest 4969
Today's Topics:
1) Spocks Beard, Fates WaRning
by CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
2) Modern Drummer/Portnoy etc.
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
3) Moore equipment list?
by "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
4) Signed Planet X (Derek Sherinian) CDs !!!!!!!!
by Calvin6S@aol.com
5) Portable CD players
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
6) Concept Music
by Compadre32@aol.com
7) Sony
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
8) Re: Spocks Beard and Fates Warning
by CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
9) Re: Concept Music
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
10) Ya gotta love Fates!
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
11) Gates Of Babylon (from mikeportnoy.com)
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Check out Mike Portnoy - The Official Home Page
by Portnoy420@aol.com
13) my styx rant/NDTC
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
14) RE: DT concept album?
by "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4968
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
16) CDNow to merge with Columbia House
by "Patrick, Michael" <michael.patrick@eds.com>
17) Various and sundry replies
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4968
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
19) Dennis DeYoung eaten by a pack of wild boars! World glad to be rid of him.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
20) Re: Sony
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
21) JM Sig 6-String Clip
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
22) RE: JM Sig 6-String Clip
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:46:11 EDT
From: CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Spocks Beard, Fates WaRning
Message-ID: <2c9dd570.24bc0273@aol.com>
I just bought Spocks Beard and Fates Warning and these were the first
non-DT LTE or Plat related prog things I have ever bought, but unfortunately
I do not like them. Tell me people, should I keep them and let it grow on
me? Or should I return em?
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:12:37 -0400
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Modern Drummer/Portnoy etc.
Message-ID: <000701beccdd$91773520$aba808cf@default>
Quothe John:
>It's always kool when a new Modern Drummer magazine gets
>delivered to me in the mail. But this months issue is just
>a little better. In their Critique section this month a
>few prog releases were reviewed. Among them was LTE2 which
>recieved a glowing review (way to go mikey!!!) and a review
>for the Spocks Beard album.
DDDDOOOOOOHHHHHHHh. You know what really pisses me off?! Well, too bad,
I'm going to tell you anyway! It's when your subscription runs on that
freakin issue and even though you sent in a renewal...it's probably too late
for that and god...maybe I'll have to be like a normal person and run
outside!! and get a copy off a newstand... *gasp* Hehehe. Ok, so maybe I'm
overacting a bit....But still!
Then spake Darlene:
>ok
>I must say that the chat room is a phat thing
I dunno...When I went all the people ran away. Who knows....maybe it's just
me! ;-)
Scott
"PunkAss"
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:26:59 -0500
From: "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Moore equipment list?
Message-ID: <002501beccdf$9312aac0$25c72fd8@brandon>
Ok,
I know I've seen this mentioned time and time again, but can someone email
the list of what Kevin's setup consisted of for the I&W and Awake albums? I
would surely appreciate it!
Alas, such info should be in the FAQ (something I have suggested time and
time again with regard to Petrucci), but it always seems to fall on deaf
ears.
Anyway . . . thanks for any info on this.
If nothing else, what are the 2 keyboards that he uses on the Japan video?
And does anyone know if he used the sounds straight from the boards
(presets)? Which would beg the question of which ones?
Thanks!
Brandon Vaughn
bvaughn@snowhill.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:30:06 EDT
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Signed Planet X (Derek Sherinian) CDs !!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <2747d454.24bc0cbe@aol.com>
Planet X will be appearing at the Baked Potato on 7/22 and Derek mentioned he
will have Planet X CDs signed by him and Virgil Donati at the show for $15.
If anyone is interested, send me an email
calvin6s@aol.com
I can pick you up a copy if you send me cash or a money order for $17 ($15
plus $2 for shipping) by 7/21 (day before the show). I will also do it for
orders outside of the US but you wouldn't have much time to get the money to
me. International orders would also pay a bit more for shipping (depending
on where you live). I will send you the address to send the money to when you
email me.
I consider myself a reliable person and I'm sure others I have traded with or
bought DT Japanese tab books would back me up on this. You will have to act
fast though because 7/21 is right around the corner.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:53:12 -0400
From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Portable CD players
Message-ID: <007601becce3$3b4e9200$32ca88cf@guest3382>
I'd like to join the growing group in praise of the Panasonic Port. CD
players. I've had one for 4 years or so (can't give model number; my g/f
borrowed it), and it's survived countless drops on numerous surfaces, as
well as immersion in water. It doesn't skip all that often, either.
Josh Calkin:
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony
E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
ICQ: 22473371
AOL IM: Mortua
IRC: Mortua
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:10:11 EDT
From: Compadre32@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Concept Music
Message-ID: <5b7cea64.24bc1623@aol.com>
ONE QUESTION...
What exactly is "concept music"?
-Compadre32
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:58:37 -0500
From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sony
Message-ID: <4.1.19990713005001.00aa2570@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>
>I've had a Sony 20-second Discman for two or three years now with ZERO
>problems whatsoever (it even lasts 10 hours on batteries with ESP on). I
>take it on trips, walking, running, biking, etc, and it's taken some abuse.
>I've never cleaned the lens (bad, Dave, bad!), but it still never skips
>unless I drop it from 10 feet onto cement. I couldn't recommend it more!
>Maybe it's just this model, though, because my previous Sony Discman died
>within 10 months. I don't see what everyone's problem is... :)
Everybody's problem is that Sony is the top-selling brand, and so many
people think they're hot shit if they rage against the top-selling
whatever...I love my discman, it's Sony, same for all my other Sony
equipment, I've got a DAT machine, does beautiful, two Minidisc units, does
fine, and two Minidisc walkmans, and they work great...Anyone can have a
lemon, but c'mon folks, do you really have to jump on the bandwagon so damn
much???
>But i think they made CD players better back then. The one in my
>computer and the one in my car right now skip with the slightest
>imperfection. Which my old Sony discman does not.
One thing I've noticed is that car CD players are very bad for discs, I
think it's because of the slot style players, the rollers tend to scratch
up CD's..I've noticed this from many different people I've borrowed CD's
from...yet another reason I love my discman, just plug it into my car and
my tape player and let it rip, saves my cd's....
np: The Doors "Strange Days"
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:56:30 EDT
From: CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Spocks Beard and Fates Warning
Message-ID: <5fd5f75b.24bc2f0e@aol.com>
On second listen these bands rock!!!
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:13:23 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Concept Music
Message-ID: <001501beccf6$d73be380$2007fea9@korgx3>
> What exactly is "concept music"?
A concept album is an album which is written telling a story about a person,
an event, etc. Each song will relate to the story and (hopefully) all the
songs will run in chronological sequence unlike SG's Tyranny.
Examples of concept albums are:
Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime
Savatage: Streets, Dead Winter Dead, Wake of Magellan
Pink Floyd: The Wall
Shadow Gallery: Tyranny
Basically any genre of music can write a concept album. It's an idea rather
than a style. Personally, I seem to enjoy concept albums more than regular
albums over time. It makes me wonder if the new DT could in fact be one....
:) That could kick ass. :)
God bless the beats and the chilled wren.
-- KorgX3 kills a Mockingbird and eats it. NP: Dream Theater - Awake------------------------------
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:27:10 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ya gotta love Fates! Message-ID: <378ADC3E.F59F101E@isd.net>
Michael Pontrelli wrote: >And.. I am listening to "A Pleasant Shade of Gray". One of the BEST >albums EVER!!! A true piece of ART!!! ahh :) How does this album >compare to the rest of Fate's stuff?
APSoG is kind of a stand alone performance, NOTHING from ANYONE sounds quite like this CD. I also really like "No Exit." Well OK, I like all of them, but No Exit, and Perfect Symmetry are my favorites. (bar APSoG)
The studio version of "The Ivory Gate of Dreams" (from N.E.) is one of my all-time favs.. Alder is fucking amazing! JM & FA have some very interesting exchanges as well.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gates Of Babylon (from mikeportnoy.com) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990712232517.27364A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Interesting things... like how Kevin's solo at the beginning seemed oddly familliar. I got a big wave of deja vu, and felt compelled to pop in Once In A Livetime. DS's solo... hrm. A little familliar there.
Also, I had no idea Geddy Lee cloned himself in 1973, only to be thawed and brought in to sing for Majesty. Amazing. ^_^
You'll know the new the album's going to be a concept album when you see Jordan wearing a long blond wearing white flowing gowns in the studio footage.
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:59:23 EDT From: Portnoy420@aol.com To: Portnoy420@aol.com Subject: Check out Mike Portnoy - The Official Home Page Message-ID: <d8016462.24bc3dcb@aol.com>
<A HREF="http://www.mikeportnoy.com/">Click here: Mike Portnoy - The Official Home Page </A>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:37:01 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: my styx rant/NDTC Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F44C6@ms.kallback.com>
F*CK, I'm pissed!! I just found out that Dennis DeYoung is sick and some F*UCKIN CANADIAN is replacing him on the STYX tour. His name is Lawrence Gowan. I've never heard of him, but maybe he's not too bad because Tony Levin plays bass on most of his cds, but that's no F*CKIN guarantee because he played on Paula Cole too and I'm so F*CKIN sick of hearing that I Don't Want to Wait song every time I watch Dawson's Creek on that F*UCKED UP frog channel.
Thanks for listening, I feel much better now. Trevor
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:33:10 -0400 From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: DT concept album? Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42CC4E577@PFC_EXCH01>
Howdy, y'all...
Matt pondered... >Anyone else wondering why the boys are intentionally being so hush-hush about the new record? Maybe it'll end up being a concept album or something :) <
Well, for what it's worth, my gut feeling is that it probably isn't. It's been reported that DT went into the studio without anything written -- just wrote as they recorded. It seems to me that a concept album would have had to have been planned and written and worked over quite a bit before setting foot in a studio. But that's just my thought; who knows what's really going on?!?! :-)
Geaux Tigers! CHRIS -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "The bad [news] is that people with passion have no power and people with power have no passion." - Andrei Codrescu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:08:37 +1000 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4968 Message-ID: <378B3A54.26F50E8C@alphalink.com.au>
The sound quality is actually just as good as CDs, if not better. They store more information and of course are writeable and overwriteable which is a big plus. However consider if its what you want, because they cost stacks, both the player and the mini discs themselves. You will also have to be buying CDs and then recording them on to mini disc. Personally I would recommend just getting a decent CD player. Of the big name brands Panasonic is definately the best way to go for this type of stuff. Sony are just unreliable- sure some might be fine but you never know. Maybe get a good warranty if you have to buy sony.
> > I've never actually heard a mini disc, so this is strictly hearsay, but > isn't the codec for mini discs somewhat less than ideal as well? The > quality of mp3's found the net varies a lot, but a well done mp3 can be > very close in quality to cd. I think that they'd be very comparable to > mini disc in that sense. Advantages of the Rio would include: computer > interface (for archiving and retrieving music), small size, no moving parts > (tolerant to shakes and bumps, and will not wear out on you), and it's > trendy and cool and looks neat =P. Not to mention that mini discs are > probably on their way out, having never really caught on, thanks largely to > the recording industry and their monopolistic control of delivery devices. > However, Rio and similar toys are really not at a very good price point > yet. Wait another generation or two (say until Christmas) and you'll get a > much better product, and probably for considerably less money.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:01:10 -0400 From: "Patrick, Michael" <michael.patrick@eds.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CDNow to merge with Columbia House Message-ID: <92D60A12331ED2119F5300A02461F047017756F0@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com>
Does this spell doom for all the great deals we get through CDNow? If it weren't for the $10 coupons, I wouldn't have half the stuff in my collection. Hmmm...
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,39060,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh.ni
Mike
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Various and sundry replies Message-ID: <19990713140400.3674.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Hi 'jammers,
Ian Gonzalez wrote: >Subject: www.mikeportnow.com >I made it this early this morning (more or less same >US east coast time.), but after that, I had troubles >and I couldn't get in.
Um, maybe spell it right? (*Kirby ruuuuuuuns and hiiiiiiiides!) :) Seriously, there were a couple of problems early on, but it seems to be up and running just fine. NICE site all around. :)
Darlene wrote: >ok >I must say that the chat room is a phat thing
While the chat room on the Web site is VERY nice (wtg DaveH!), we already have an IRC channel on a private server. Go to irc.dreamt.org port 2112 and join #Ytsejam. There you'll find other DT and prog music fans. But be warned, we don't usually discuss da boyz.
OK, that's it outta me. :)
-Nicole/Kirby
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:22:50 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4968 Message-ID: <378B4BB9.78CD6E75@yunque.net>
"mikel@alphalink.com.au" wrote:
> The sound quality is actually just as good as CDs, if not better. They store more > information and of course are writeable and overwriteable which is a big plus. > However consider if its what you want, because they cost stacks, both the > player and the mini discs themselves. You will also have to be buying CDs > and then recording them on to mini disc.
Im not a sound expert here, but logic dictates that a mini disc WONT sound the same , much less better than a cd, since its a much smaller disc, in order to fit the same ammount of music on it, it means MORE compression, and more compression means degraded sound. Anyone else care to comment on this, perhaps mr progtologist?
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 08:26:27 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dennis DeYoung eaten by a pack of wild boars! World glad to be rid of him. Message-ID: <001c01b81389$b542f480$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
>some F*UCKIN CANADIAN is replacing him on the STYX tour. >His name is Lawrence Gowan. I've never heard of him,
Hahaha. I wish I could hear more of Gowan than I have. The only song of his I've heard is the song "The Dragon" from the Navy Seals soundtrack. Fuckin' killer tune. Kind of in a Styx vein, but kind of a dark song. Styx without DDY is like a hamburger without hamburger, imo, though. Maybe Gowan will be a tasty, yet sort of flaky soybean replacement. :)
My bowels hurt. -- KorgX3 goes to the bathroom NP: Stratovarius - Visions
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:06:45 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sony Message-ID: <iss.2386.378b6411.a0c80.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <4.1.19990713005001.00aa2570@mail.msy.bellsouth.net> from ytsejam@ax.com:
> Everybody's problem is that Sony is the top-selling brand, and so many > people think they're hot shit if they rage against the top-selling > whatever...I love my discman, it's Sony, same for all my other Sony > equipment, I've got a DAT machine, does beautiful, two Minidisc units, does > fine, and two Minidisc walkmans, and they work great...Anyone can have a > lemon, but c'mon folks, do you really have to jump on the bandwagon so damn > much???
It's not a bandwagon. Look at quality reports. Whether you're talking about audio or video, the fact is that Sony does not hold up as well as most of the other consumer brands. Go read about it.
-Brian
------------------------------------ The flesh will get weak, and the ashes will scatter So I'm thinking about forgiveness... -Don Henley
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:13:03 -0500 From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JM Sig 6-String Clip Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B02D82F@bham-xchg>
Hey guys,
If you're interested in seeing a clip of JM playing his new signature 6-string bass then goto the following link and enjoy a far too short 30-odd seconds.
http://www.giles.com/yamaha1/whatsnew1.html
Later,
Dave (a UK Jammer - at the moment in Alabama....but probably not for long if my company has anything to do with it, but I'm just raving now....)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:29:54 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: JM Sig 6-String Clip Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE7A8@messaging>
<<<< If you're interested in seeing a clip of JM playing his new signature 6-string bass then goto the following link and enjoy a far too short 30-odd seconds.
http://www.giles.com/yamaha1/whatsnew1.html >>>>
Holy shit - he spoke! We get a good 2 seconds worth... :)
David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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