YTSEJAM Digest 4886
Today's Topics:
1) Portnoy chat transcript
by CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
2) Hoglan
by "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
3) Buckcherry
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
4) LTE 1 sound .... bad mix possible? ... :(
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
5) Military stuff sucks, NDTC
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
6) New Steve Vai out in July (according to his homepage)
by Jarno Tuomainen <jarno_tuomainen@hotmail.com>
7) Buck This
by Dave <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
8) Angra at Milwaukee Metal Fest?
by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
9) News 5/30/99
by casinogold@gnwmail.com
10) Angra at Milwaukee Metalfest--for real
by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
11) MP3s For Prog Bands
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
12) Some people are just stoopid
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
13) Death drummers
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
14) Alice
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
15) Re: Some people are just stoopid
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
16) Re: Death drummers
by Jim Lenart <Sorrowed@postmark.net>
17) Re: Internet Radio question
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:20:49 EDT
From: CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Portnoy chat transcript
Message-ID: <80c80b05.2488ca41@aol.com>
FYI - Mike Portnoy Chat transcript is now on Sabian
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:05:55 -0500
From: "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Hoglan
Message-ID: <001601beae58$b28ea340$0fb4dccf@jsmirnov>
>I have SYL's City and Testament's Demonic. Got 'em both cuz I >heard
>Hoglan was on 'em. I wasn't really blown away by 'em. I still listen to
>City every once in a while. It's good music for doing homework. But >I
>guess Hoglan's not really interested in the more elaborate type of
>drumming he did on Individual Thought Patterns and Symbolic. >Shame. He
>was good at it, and I was hoping he would get even better.
Same reason I got SYL, and I have ALL Testament so I was all psyched up when
I heard Hoglan was gonna be on it, then disappointed. Makes me wonder why
someone so technically great would move to some noise-oriented band where
they have less opportunity to be heard? Then why even bother practicing at
all? =)
I will check out Spastic Inc if I can. Sean Malone's Cortlandt would be next
along with Gordian Knot and Anomaly. You can get them at Laser's edge and
they are under $15... so I am getting paid tomorrow. Should be a good time
to order that stuff...
Partha... Yeah they do have LTE II listed. Surprisingly. Considering the guy
tried spelling the band names all fucked up when entering them into the
computer: "Tyles", "Iceage", "Dolli's Dalemma", but my favorite spelling of
that Best Buy visit was when I asked them to check for Live at Donnington by
Maiden. His original version of the band name was "Iron Meidan". I'd be
surprised if the guy can spell his own name and I dont even wanna know what
the hell he listens to.
Jeremy
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 03:42:07 EDT
From: Stixntrixx@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Buckcherry
Message-ID: <55ff73d2.2488dd4f@aol.com>
About the Buckcherry thing: they are an average band playing average hard
rock songs. What makes them above average is that they are signed to
Dreamworks. The GnR comparisons are vaild in the amount of attitude each band
gives off, but Buckcherry is not going to set the world on fire like GnR did.
And Buckcherry has enough of that southern thang going on to turn me off.
Richie
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:17:01 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: LTE 1 sound .... bad mix possible? ... :(
Message-ID: <3756F0CD.EA00C13F@mol.com.mk>
Yesterday I noticed something on the LTE1 CD.
I have brand new stereo, Pioneer amplifier and Tanoy speakers. The
combination is really great.
BUT, while listening the album I noticed some errr ... noises, clicks!
:( They are similar to those LP clicks, but these are not so loud. They
are like 5, 6 small clicks one after another very fast, so that it all
lasts some half second or less. But if you're averagely concentrated
it's quite noticable! :(
Naturally, the parts where it's obvious is the more silent parts of the
album, like piano, or piano/guitar combination and stuff like that.
Actually the mix on State of grace is not so good. The inreo is only
Jordan playing the piano sound on his keyboards, but there is a lot of
noise/murmur. How come? :( It is not cleaned / filtered very good.
Finally, here are the timings where those clicks I descrobed above
happens, but there are much more on these 2 songs. The thing is that
everytime the clicks are on the same spot, which excludes problems with
the speakers, .. it must be the CD! On the other hand, if it means that
my LTE CD is damaged (who knows, little scratches or somethin'...), this
is the first time I hear this kind of consequence on the sound. I assume
the CD is like that from the manufacturer. The weird thing is I didn't
noticed before!
I would appretiate if some of you check your CDs on the below time
places:
Freedom of speech:
0:03-0:04
0:09
0:18
0:22
State of grace:
0:05
0:09-0:10
P.S. although I still didn't check the CD on other devices.
-- CyberDuke"Now that I know that I'm breaking to pieces I'll Pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone Crying for sympathy crocodile cry for the love of the crowd and the three cheers from everyone ..."
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:38:02 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Military stuff sucks, NDTC Message-ID: <3756F5BA.740524D9@mol.com.mk>
> Possibly spawned by Nazi trials after WWII (where the > "I was following orders" defense was often used).
Now dude, your comment can turn into HUGE philosophical thread! :)
The "I was following orders" stuff seems to be the ONE AND ONLY MOST IMPORTANT rule in army! A soldier MUST follow orders from his superior officers. And there's no excuse for that! The "logical" explanation for this is "In war time, you follow orders or you die! In army there must be rules which need to be 100% obeyed!"
(Remember "A Few Good Men"? It's a story exactly about this problem)
I think I heard that in war situation if soldier doesn't obbey direct order he can be shoot on the spot!?!!? :) geez, ... tell me I'm wrong.
I'm in a country where we all males have to serve 9 months army service, an dit is said that all kind of morons are there with you (under assumption I'm not one of them :). So like, you're some 23 and you have 18 years old punk who is your superior and what makes his day is getting on your nerves. Recomendations: Swallow it and move further! But my being DO NOT want to accept that. And who can?
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth -- CyberDuke
************************************************************** Stop the bombing! Stop killing and destoying the whole nation. Stop being a world cop! Stop being "concerned"! And yeah, GET JAMIE SHEA OFF MY TV screen!!! :-( **************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 03:56:19 PDT From: Jarno Tuomainen <jarno_tuomainen@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: New Steve Vai out in July (according to his homepage) Message-ID: <19990604105619.58839.qmail@hotmail.com>
I was asking about Satch and Vai a few Jams back, and this caught my eye when browsing through www.vai.com (strangely I couldn't find this anywhere but under tour dates):
"Steve is currently off the road, and working on a number of new projects including the new solo record due in July."
Hopefully this information is still up to date.
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:28:12 -0400 From: Dave <dhatlee@dhpc.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Buck This Message-ID: <4.1.19990604082544.00a09b00@ee.net>
>OK, so I guess every rock song with the chords G, D, A or G, C, D are ripping >off AC/DC, huh? The song you're talking about is called "Lit Up" and it >really kicks ass. ESPECIALLY when you consider all of the other crap new >bands are putting out these days. DT is my fav band, but when it comes down >to simple ass-kickin "radio" rock, these guys seem to have some great >potential.
Try not to get too bent if you see some people crackin on this band in the 'jam, cuz there are probably a few of us that just get a little ticked off when ripoff bands make it and DT cant even get good radio-play for totally *original* new music.
;-)
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:28:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: Symphony X Mailing List <teof@makelist.com>, Subject: Angra at Milwaukee Metal Fest? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.990604102515.28694B@bu-ast.bu.edu>
Can anybody here confirm that Angra is playing their first US date at the Milwaukee metal fest on July 30-31? I saw a reference to it in a post on Usenet, in alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive. If it's for real, I'm gonna have to really try to get there.
-jeremy
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: "Ytsejam: Where Dream and Flames Unite" <ytsejam@axnet.net>, Subject: Angra at Milwaukee Metalfest--for real Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.990604103412.28772A-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
Looks like its the real deal: www.metalfest.com Angra is 5th or so on the list. Better think about going now, July ain't that far away!
-jeremy
+================================================================+ "Who's the soapbox derby king? Who's the soapbox derby king?" Vikings WR Cris Carter to Vikings WR Randy Moss on an ESPN commercial Minnesota Vikings: 1998 NFC Central Divison Champs!!!! +================================================================+ Jeremy Hallum, Assistant System Manager & Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University/jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: MP3s For Prog Bands Message-ID: <19990604172023.23402.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com>
I was recently at Wherehouse Music to (duh) purchase a CD. I picked out a CD I wanted to listen to before purchasing (I find that I get less frivlous as I mature. The CD was the Dead Man Walking score). The employee behind the counter informed me that the store can no longer play a CD before being purchases, unless it's one of their specially marked (read: MTV-produced, overhyped) CDs. "Well shit," I said to myself. "I'm basically fucked b/c I refuse to buy this CD before listening to it". This also extends to prog bands I've never heard before. You 'jammers can recommend something until we're all blue in the face, but in the end we're all individuals with our own tastes and preferences.
Have no fear, I'm going somewhere with this long-winded post.
This is where mp3s come in. I'd like to have a list of websites that contain mp3s for the following bands-- Symphony X Iced Earth Spock's Beard Shadow Gallery
I'm not looking to download an entire album (I do have a life), I just wish to sample the album, see if there's anything on it that I might dig listening to. Thanks everyone! === *Trent
"They said that timing was everything, made him want to be everywhere, there's a lot to be said for nowhere." * Eddie Vedder, a man amongst men and all around cool guy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:49:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Some people are just stoopid Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990604124534.20571A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Hey all, sorry I have been away for a little while. The other night I was talking to one of my bosses at work, named Mandy. She is an MTV/pop groupie. Anyway I was talking how MTV is evil and how they say what is cool or popular. I was talking about how record companies are taking advantage of this "latin pop" thing with Ricky Martin. I was takling about the Jennifer Lopez CD> She is a pretty girl who is easy to market. She said "that album was propbably in the works a year ago." I'm sorry. If DT can record all the music from I&W in about a week, than a pop album could be done in less time. I got so agravating she actually stoppped talking to me and sent me home later! Victory!
Kurt
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:28:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Death drummers Message-ID: <199906041828.NAA16500@adam.enteract.com>
I'm sorry, whoever said it, but I'm inclined to believe that the guy who said that Reinert didn't do as much in Cynic as he did on Human just doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. The stuff on Human is tough, but it's not NEARLY as nuts as Cynic. Gordian Knot and Cortlandt's drum parts were partially writen by Sean Malone... Reinert didn't adapt them too much and didn't go all out on it. Anomaly was a band for hire thing, and I haven't heard it. Aghora is very similar to Cynic in style. If you base your opinion of how good a drummer is by his double bass work and his ability to play "fast" over everything, you've missed out on the finer points of drumming. Just for the record, Reinert outclasses ALL of Death's drummers, ever. He's a true genius.
--
Chris Ptacek - someone@prognosis.com "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:22:38 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@axnet.net, bostonjam@dreamt.or Subject: Alice Message-ID: <3758277E.3F78@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Has anyone else heard the "new" Alice In Chains stuff on the radio lately? I guess it's not really new stuff, just never put on a CD, but will be on a soon-to-be-released box set or something. Whatever, it cranks!
JP
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Some people are just stoopid Message-ID: <19990604211145.24266.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com>
--- Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> wrote: > > Hey all, > sorry I have been away for a little while. The other > night I was talking > to one of my bosses at work, named Mandy. She is an > MTV/pop groupie. > Anyway I was talking how MTV is evil and how they > say what is cool or > popular. I was talking about how record companies > are taking advantage of > this "latin pop" thing with Ricky Martin. I was > takling about the Jennifer > Lopez CD> She is a pretty girl who is easy to > market. She said "that album > was propbably in the works a year ago." I'm sorry. > If DT can record all > the music from I&W in about a week, than a pop album > could be done in less > time. I got so agravating she actually stoppped > talking to me and sent me > home later! Victory! > > Kurt
Just as a matter of insight, in their early days, The Beatles would record entire albums in a matter of hours (over a period of time). Jennifer Lopez is just being exploited. <cynicsm>Maybe she can sing, maybe she can act, but maybe she wouldn't be doing if she didn't have that huge butt of hers.</cynicsm> Anyways... === *Trent
"They said that timing was everything, made him want to be everywhere, there's a lot to be said for nowhere." * Eddie Vedder, a man amongst men and all around cool guy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:16:14 +0000 From: Jim Lenart <Sorrowed@postmark.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Death drummers Message-ID: <m10q1KO-000ecnC@postmark.dmf.net>
Christopher Ptacek wrote:
> I'm sorry, whoever said it, but I'm inclined to believe that the guy who > said that Reinert didn't do as much in Cynic as he did on Human just > doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. <snip>
heheh, you beat me to it. obviously i totally agree here. for the most part Death is the easiest example of a technical death metal band, and indeed there is no other drummer in that genre that can equal Reinert's technique and ability. Hoglan of course became a pretty big name after his two album stay with death (i don't think he got much recognition with dark angel) and the latest drummer, Richard Christy, who came from the slightly creepy (lame choice of words, but what the hell) but unfortunately redundantly boring alexter crowley inspired satanic act "Acheron", is way over-rated. he does possess a great amount of talent, and certainly fits the song writing mold of Death, but to me seems to be a bit ahead of himself. his double-bass work meshes together so much it is hard to tell if he is ever on time. he hits the important quarter notes with both hand and foot, but inbetween there is something a-funk with his Double-bass work. i don't know, it just doesn't sound clean to me, nothing like reinert's smooth accuracy. just had to sound off there.
"sorrowed" jim lenart
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Internet Radio question Message-ID: <19990604212418.12260.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com>
--- Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote: > > I don't have access to a radio station in the area > that has this program > on it (not to mention that my radio's antenna > sucks), but I love it and > laugh at it whenI see it on E! television. Does > anybody know any > addresses of Internet Radio sites (whether MS Radio > or RealAudio streaming > or whatever) that has the Howard Stern show on it? > > Oh yeah, and what time DOES the HS show broadcast, > anyway? It's a morning > show, isn't it? > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Coutermarsh
If you find out, let me know, okay? All we have in my area is friggin' Imus! === *Trent
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