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Date: Mon Jun 07 1999 - 14:03:15 EDT

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YTSEJAM Digest 4890

Today's Topics:

1) Re: IAW
by AyameYuki@aol.com
 2) Your own turn-key internet business! TODAY!
by turnkey@tampabay.rr.com
 3) FS: Adrian Belew tix -- HEAVILY DISCOUNTED
by The Central Scrutinizer <hender@wam.umd.edu>
 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4886
by "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4887
by "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4889
by Diablo6491@aol.com
 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4889
by Mike Kramer <blexkin3@hotmail.com>
 8) Iced Earth
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
 9) FRIGHTENED OF SUCCESS?
by success4u@sunpoint.net
10) Gentle Giant - NDTC
by "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
11) Re: Howard Stern Online...censorship!
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
12) Re: Howard Stern Online...censorship!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
13) Re: Gentle Giant - NDTC
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
14) RE: FII gain?
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
15) Iced Earth live album & new fan site: Nevermore Canadian/US tour dates
by "hitomi iwai" <hit_i@hma.att.ne.jp>

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:06:46 EDT
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: IAW
Message-ID: <366176cc.248c7526@aol.com>

hey...as far as i know...IAW copies down here are still in stock ( still in
the shipment boxes, those freakin ingrates ) but im in alabama. we always
have stuff left over ,or stuff that could sell that not many people know
about. its all in how you grill managers. :)

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:53:40 -0400 (EDT)
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To: turnkey@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: Your own turn-key internet business! TODAY!
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:27:27 -0400
From: The Central Scrutinizer <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: FS: Adrian Belew tix -- HEAVILY DISCOUNTED
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990606232727.009e5940@pop.wam.umd.edu>

I still have 2 Adrian Belew tickets I need to sell, and since it's getting
down to the wire here, I've decided to "discount" them fairly drastically.
The concert is on Friday, June 11th at the New Market Cabaret in
Philadelphia, PA. It's general admission and strictly 21+ (the reason I
need to sell my tix). If you are at all interested in seeing what promises
to be a fantastic and intimate show with one of the best
guitarist/singer/songwriters out there (IMO), or know somebody that might
be, please write me back ASAP at hender@wam.umd.edu. The discounted price
is $40 for the pair ($20 individually), cheaper than they'll be available
at the door (that is, assuming it's not sold out)...

(Sorry about my repeated postings on the subject.)

Thanks,
Brian

===================================
Name:
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Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:57:35 -0500
From: "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4886
Message-ID: <001b01beb099$e22df4a0$3cb4dccf@jsmirnov>

> I'm sorry, whoever said it, but I'm inclined to believe that the guy who
> said that Reinert didn't do as much in Cynic as he did on Human just
> doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. The stuff on Human is
> tough, but it's not NEARLY as nuts as Cynic. Gordian Knot and Cortlandt's
> drum parts were partially writen by Sean Malone... Reinert didn't adapt
> them too much and didn't go all out on it. Anomaly was a band for hire
> thing, and I haven't heard it. Aghora is very similar to Cynic in style.
> If you base your opinion of how good a drummer is by his double bass work
> and his ability to play "fast" over everything, you've missed out on the
> finer points of drumming. Just for the record, Reinert outclasses ALL of
> Death's drummers, ever. He's a true genius.

Okay. Let me clarify something. Maybe I did overstate that Cynic wasn't as
intense as Human, but I do NOT jusge a drummer by his double bass work. I
used to when I was in high school. Not anymore. Thats why most death metal
bands do nothing for me nowadays. However what I thought was cool with
Reinert on Human is how he used cymbals OVER his double bass work. I also
don't think he is better than the later two drummers for Death. I like
Hoglan's patterns and his use of cannon shells. =) And I think Christy can
be messy sometimes, but can pull off more shit than anyone else when he IS
successful doing it. I saw him live with Death (unfortunately the ONLY Death
show I have seen) and he blew me away. He did drop sticks about 5 times in
the middle off some fills. But let me assure you, the man is INSANE. He did
a 7+ minute drum solo which unfortunately lacked in the structure dept, but
was PURE technique. Amazing to hear that shit. Again, nothing against
Reinert, I think he's an awesome drummer. I only heard two samples of
Gordian Knot on the net, so I cant judge, but I liked his work with Death
the best. Again, NOT to diss Cynic which is in its own category..... BTW
Does anyone know where to get Aghora???

Jeremy

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:02:54 -0500
From: "Jeremy Smirnov" <coworker@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4887
Message-ID: <002301beb09a$a03a9ac0$3cb4dccf@jsmirnov>

> Do you know where i can get a copy of darkness descends?....and

Best Buy. It's been re-issued. I think the only one. I happen to have both
Darkness Descends and Time Does not Heal and don't understand how people
listen to any Dark Angel other than Time Does Not Heal. Earlier stuff is
like a typical Slayer rip-off. =)

Jeremy

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:39:50 EDT
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4889
Message-ID: <a9581abc.248ca716@aol.com>

<< Well only recently with the release of there latest album MTV jumped all
over
them, Also because of the strong "underground" following they had created.
There musical style has stayed consistent through there 3 albums. Ya maybe
a
few changes here and there but the over all style has remained the same.
Now
every other band is trying to copy the same image and sound that they create.
>>

I'm not sure if your a big fan of Korn or not, like I was until this release,
but if you are, then you should realize that this album was totaly comercial
and such a far cry from anything they had ever done. The style was thrown
out, hence the entrance of rap music and cheasy tunes like "Freak on a Leash"
and "All in the Family". No one ever listened to this band because thwey
were "fun" it was because of their agressive style and angry tone, it was a
great group for outlet(and still is if you pop in "Korn" or a few songs off
of "Life is Peachy"). They have the same style as every other band now . . .
a pop sound that will sell. Next album they are supposed to feature MORE
Rap, whoopy . . . what a bunch of pussy sellouts

RaY

np: Shadow Gallery "I believe"

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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:11:10 PDT
From: Mike Kramer <blexkin3@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4889
Message-ID: <19990607051110.75884.qmail@hotmail.com>

i neve rposted here yet

but my cd does the same thing...what shit!

>Somebody wrote:
><<FII could have sounded even better if they wouldn't have cranked the gain
>button so much.>>
>

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
To: DT list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Iced Earth
Message-ID: <19990607052745.21961.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com>

Well I went to the Iced Earth show at Jaxx on Thursday night. It was a night
of pure power metal. 5 bands were slated to play.

The opener was some band with Tower in their name. They might have sounded
good if the sound engineer had a clue.

I skipped the second band.

The third band was Division who had a great set. People were pretty into
them and the sound engineer had improved somewhat. I guess there were some
drum problems. They did perform a relatively new and great sounding cover of
Savatage's Power of the night.

4th was Destiny's End which consists of Hellstar's singer. He looked a
little old and was impressed by the crowd size. DE sounded decent and may be
worth further investigation.

and finally Iced Earth came out LOUD and full POWER. The sound was great and
the songs sounded just like the studio releases. Apparently a new disc will
be out in the next year as a conceptual album based on the wicked trilogy.

oh yeah, Fuck posers.

np: nothing.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:58:00 -0400
From: "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Gentle Giant - NDTC
Message-ID: <199906071259.FAA22698@knight.axnet.net>

Hey Jammerz!

Was just wondering if anyone has heard something about the 3 cd retro box
set of GG... is it out yet? anyone know the approx date?

thx in advance..

Mr. ProG

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Date: 07 Jun 1999 15:11:30 +0200
From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Howard Stern Online...censorship!
Message-ID: <tkuwvxgjgu5.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>

Hi all,

Andrew> http://www.broadcast.com/radio/alternative/WQBK/

  Andrew> At which they have a link to an Internet Broadcast in
  Andrew> RealAudio. Since I have received additional requests for
  Andrew> information about this, I am forwarding it to the jam so
  Andrew> others may enjoy the witty cynicism of Howard Stern. By the
  Andrew> way, he broadcasts from 6 AM Eastern until whenever he wants
  Andrew> to.

I was pretty psyched up to hear Howard during my lunch break (since I
live in Germany) but it seems that broadcast.com doesn't let the
Internet public listen to Howard because the subjext material is too
controvertial (did I spell that right?). What a load of shit! I am
sure some of the gansta rap that some of those stations play is worse
than Howard. If anyone finds a station that broadcasts on the net and
really lets people listen to Howard please let me know. Thanks.

Jason

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:26:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Howard Stern Online...censorship!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990607112412.17264B-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Jason T. Breitweg wrote:
> I was pretty psyched up to hear Howard during my lunch break (since I
> live in Germany) but it seems that broadcast.com doesn't let the
> Internet public listen to Howard because the subjext material is too
> controvertial (did I spell that right?).  What a load of shit!  I am
> sure some of the gansta rap that some of those stations play is worse
> than Howard.  If anyone finds a station that broadcasts on the net and
> really lets people listen to Howard please let me know.  Thanks.
Actually, I just did some research on this, because I was psyched to hear
this him this morning, too.  Apparently, shows like Rush Limbaugh and Imus
don't get paid for their syndication (ie, they swap advertising time with
the local stations to take care of it).  Howard, on the other hand, gets
paid by each station that syndicates him.
Therefore, he doesn't allow webcasts.
Why?  Because webcasts are free, and if people could access him on the
web, he wouldn't be getting paid.
When I found this out, it broke my heart.  But if you can't get Howard on
a local radio station, unfortunately, you're out of luck.
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.home.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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have no place in religion."
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:13:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Gentle Giant - NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9906071213010.24370-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> Was just wondering if anyone has heard something about the 3 cd retro box
> set of GG... is it out yet? anyone know the approx date?
	You might wanna check Ghostland's Gentle Giant site for all the
new info (as I'm not really into them).  The URL is
http://www.ghostland.com
 - mike.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:14:52 -0700 
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: FII gain?
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498093F0@messaging>
I guess it's common knowledge that this has to do with how the CD is
mastered.  Even with a higher gain setting, you should still be able to hear
it at the same volume (at a lower volume SETTING - turn down your volume
knob) as long as your preamp isn't distorting (mine sure doesn't distort, my
system cost about $700 also - and I'll be the first to tell you it's a piece
of shit).  I think FII has the best sound and production of any DT CD yet
(donning asbestos suit)...
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dave [SMTP:dhatlee@dhpc.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, June 06, 1999 10:21 AM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	FII gain?
> 
> 
> 
> Somebody wrote:
> <<FII could have sounded even better if they wouldn't have cranked the
> gain
> button so much.>>
> 
> I'm inclined to think there is some truth to this...I have a decent stereo
> in my Explorer,
> it's not a real fancy rig, but decent, and I have noticed that out of all
> my DT CD's, FII
> is the only one that makes the speakers kinda "fart out" when I have it
> cranked at the
> same volume as I&W or Awake.  Granted, if I had a $2,000 system I probably
> wouldn't
> notice, but my system is probably around $700, which should be decent for
> a
> car stereo.
> 
> Anyone else have some input on this issue?
> 
> Dave Hatlee
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:43:51 +0900
From: "hitomi iwai" <hit_i@hma.att.ne.jp>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Iced Earth live album & new fan site: Nevermore Canadian/US tour dates
Message-ID: <018501beb10d$7a23a480$31ca4ca5@toshiba-user>
Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> wrote:
<<Due July 27th:  Iced Earth- Alive in Athens (recorded January 23rd
and
24th, 1999).
The U.S. version will be a 2 CD set, and the European version will be
a
THREE CD set!>>
"Alive in Athens" 3 CD set will be available on the online shop at
Century Media website<http://www.centurymedia.com/>. As far as I
heard, Iced Earth guys recommended fans to get  3 CD set.
They overdubbed a bit in the studio, when they mixed this live album,
but I don't mind, anyway.  Their Greek shows were so amazing. So I'm
looking forward to listening to this album:).
And, my best Iced Earth fan mate has made the tribute website of Iced
Earth called "Iced World". I'm gonna work for this Japanese mirror
site in the near future. You can check rare information about the band
at:
    http://www.stygian.dircon.co.uk/
According to Nevermore mail news(which was sent from the Official
Nevermore web site.), the following Nevermore headlining shows were
almost confirmed.:
"HEADLINE
7/22 EL MACOMBO-TORONTO, ONT
7/23 FOUFOUNES-MONTREAL, QUE
7/24 MERLIN-RIMOUSKI, QUE
7/25 THE BANK-NEW YORK, NY
MORE TBA..."
Anyway, they suffered from the problem that they couldn't book their
US tour enough till last year, so I'm really glad that Nevermore can
do the long US tour this year, finally!!
Hitomi
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 Turn and face the mirror, the answers come,
 clear as glass" (by WD-Nevermore)
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