YTSEJAM Digest 4904
Today's Topics:
1) Tim Alexander
by "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
2) Rosie / music schools
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
3) DT Tribute
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
4) name change
by J C <outlander28@hotmail.com>
5) Flight of the bumble bee
by Barbara B <babs@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu>
6) Beaucolic Western NY
by Barbara B <babs@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu>
7) Quiet Room info
by "Todd Fostvedt" <tfostvedt@csu.org>
8) Re: Alex Skolnick
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
9) yes you have
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
10) Re: Flight of the bumble bee
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
11)
by jralat@coqui.net
12) pansy college
by Jimbojorda@aol.com
13) Re: Multiple Hi-hats
by bplumb@pi-r-squared.com
14) Re: Rosie / music schools
by bplumb@pi-r-squared.com
15) re: Alex Skolnick
by "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
16) RE: Rosie / music schools
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
17) Reading the Lisa Marie Jam When a Pat Fight Broke Out...
by MusicSnob@aol.com
18) Bee good to yourself.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
19) Re: Multiple Hi-hats
by JamesAhab@aol.com
20) Re: Bee good to yourself.
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
21) Is your progressive band in need of musicians?
by fateswarm _ <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
22) FAQ U
by J C <outlander28@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:28 -0600
From: "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Tim Alexander
Message-ID: <B0005916816@usdbweb.usdb.k12.ut.us>
> Who's this drummer Tim Alexander? Worked with someone else?
Yep worked with Primus, better known as "Herb". Absolutely great drummer.
Jason
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:14:52 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Rosie / music schools
Message-ID: <3765469C.6006@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> > Berkeley ain't no fucking guarantee, BOYEEEEEE!!!!
> > Berklee ain't either.
> Bastard - ya beat me to it this time.... :)
>
> Anyway, the vocal coach for KJLB is Rose something-or-other.
Rose is her last name. I believe her first name is Winter :)
FWIW to those asking about music schools, there's another pretty damn
good music school here in Boston called The New England Conservatory of
Music. They have some lame ass drum instructor, one Vic Firth. Think he
whittles cheap wood into sticks or something :)
Interesting the number of references to musicians not finishing school.
My bro went the the Conservatory in the mid 70's. Trivia Time: Freshman
year I met his his roomate was Anton Fig, drummer for the Letterman band
for quite some time now. He really did allright for himself. Great
talent, as it's not easy playing shit completely off-the-cuff and make
it appropriate like they have to when Dave cracks a joke or something.
Anyways, my bro was gigging so much around town and up and down the
coast by his senior year. He only needed a couple of humanities courses,
that he never finished his degree. Not that I'm advocating it or
anything, but it does seem that it's not quite that critical after a
certain point to have the paper. At least in that major. He had gotten
enough theory and performance experience at that point, and was already
on his way. I imagine the same was probably true with Mike and the gang
to some extent?
Regards,
Jon
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:08:58 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: DT Tribute Message-ID: <000101beb690$f94ef600$37351ec8@carlos.yunque.net>
That DT tribute album was supposed to be released on may 29th..what happened to it? HEh
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:34:00 EDT From: J C <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: name change Message-ID: <19990614183401.41047.qmail@hotmail.com>
Did Metallica change it's name because Dave left, or Cliff died?
No but they should have changed it to "Fag Art" cause thats what it is
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:53:50 -0400 From: Barbara B <babs@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Flight of the bumble bee Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990614145350.006bc630@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu>
>this stuff is. It's a golden/yellow/brown type of stuff. [Delete].. a dead bee.
Let me offer my theory (for those of you who don't know me, I have a love of forensics, so piecing together things is just a big thrill for me - laugh). Ok, my theory on "mystery ooze" is that possibly that bee was working on turning your case into a honeycomb or beehive.
Every now and then a post comes along that I feel compelled to comment on - this was one of them...
Babs
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:07:58 -0400 From: Barbara B <babs@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Beaucolic Western NY Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990614150758.006c4864@sgenab.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:08:24 EDT >From: DRM7DF@aol.com >To: ytsejam@axnet.net >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4902 >Message-ID: <b8a21531.24969108@aol.com> > > > Just to let you know, Kevin attended Fredonia State College here in NY. It's about a half hour from me.
Wonder how he liked that nice 5-6 hour car ride through farm towns and cow pastures? At least Fredonia has the Buffalo Bills and authentic wings, try Geneseo for the complete picture of the sticks (laugh).
Babs
PS Those of you may be wondering "why is she posting so much, haven't see her here in ages" Well, my office was temporarily relocated to a college dorm (regular building being renovated) so I'm in that total "college student mode" of goofing off. So I've sequestered myself here with tons of cd's and munchies (hmm, wonder if I can get a pizza delivered here?)
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:11:19 -0600 From: "Todd Fostvedt" <tfostvedt@csu.org> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Quiet Room info Message-ID: <87256790.0069C0F8.00@nd-mta01.csu.org>
For fans of The Quiet Room:
>Hey everyone! > >I thought I would keep everyone up to date on how The Quiet Room is doing. >Currently we are getting ready for the studio. We are making the arangements >now to get in the studio by the end of July or begining of August. >The new material will give you a nice right hook in the jaw! > >Josh, >The Quiet Room
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:33:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Alex Skolnick Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990614143225.24505A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Try www.savatage.com The should have the Hanful of Rain photos in the, you guessed it, the photo section! Alex is a bad dude, if you ever get a chance to hear the Japan Live 1994 CD, it's killer!
Kurt
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:50:35 PDT From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: yes you have Message-ID: <19990614195035.39129.qmail@hotmail.com>
dave done said, in reference to the alan parsons project: "Though I have heard the name, I haven't heard their music... :)"
you ever watch any basketball in the 1990's? specifically Chicago Bulls games? You know that music that starts playing when they turn out the lights to introduce the Bulls? That music is by Alan Parsons Project, called either "I, Sirius" or just plain, "Sirius", i forget which precisely.....
APP is named as such because Parsons (well-known engineer/producer) is basically the only guy who appears on all their albums (i haven't listened to any of mmy APP cassettes in a while, although i remember that I like Stereotomy and Ammonia Avenue the best). He's joined by a different cast of characters for each "project", and to tell the truth, almost every song has a different line-up.....
to call them "progressive" would really only be correct if you added the word "pop" afterwards....there is, however, some decent stuff contained on records released under the APP banner, so you wouldn't be going too far wrong if you were to check out any such product.....
partha
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:52:04 EDT From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Flight of the bumble bee Message-ID: <b586f428.2496b764@aol.com>
> >this stuff is. It's a golden/yellow/brown type of stuff. > > [Delete].. a dead bee. > Ok, my theory on "mystery ooze" is that possibly that bee was > working on turning your case into a honeycomb or beehive.
my theory is that someone spilled something in there and the bee went to investigate and got closed in.... and thisly thusly kicked the bucket.
~Lisa is gonna cry cause she has a migrane
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:53:05 GMT From: jralat@coqui.net To: ytsejam@axnet.net Message-ID: <37652561.639e.0@coqui.net>
hey jammers,
Just wanted to say that I am selling a 6-string fernandes bass. It's green and in great condition. I'm not selling it because it sucks, it's just that I want to buy another one that's a bit expensive.
later, Jose
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:58:42 EDT From: Jimbojorda@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: pansy college Message-ID: <4612f6a9.2496b8f2@aol.com>
<< berkleY = liberal left wing pansy school berkleE = bad ass college of music >>
LOL!! just thought id let you know i appreciate your sense of humor.....
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:02:22 -0500 From: bplumb@pi-r-squared.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Multiple Hi-hats Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990614200222.0126c788@pi-r-squared.com>
At 09:33 AM 6/14/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Calvin is right. I am a drummer so I will endorse his explaination. Most >drummers use the double hi-hat configuration in order to have easy access to >both closed and open hi-hat sounds when playing double bass. I also use it >for that. I (and others) use it for double riding., i.e. playing the ride >cymbal and accenting on the extra (auxillary) hi hat. I have my aux. hat on >a cable. This is called a remote, or cable, hi-hat because it is a fully >functional hi-hat, it can be opened and closed by the pedal. The pedal for >the remote hi hat is seperaate from the main hi hat. It is used pretty much >the same as the aux hat, but has what is called a drop clutch, which allows >the hi-hat to close without using the pedal. To open it again, step on the >pedal.
All this goes to show just how much I have to learn about drum sets... I was trained for 7 years as a percussionist in Band, and I only started playing set in the last couple of years, and only double bass in the last year. Thanks to the Jam I now know how to solve that pesky open-hi-hat-double-bass problem... heh. Now if I only had the money ;)
Palpatine "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time "So You're saying that in your scientific opinion, Bess McNeil died from an overdose of... being good..?" -Breaking the Waves
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:06:58 -0500 From: bplumb@pi-r-squared.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Rosie / music schools Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990614200658.01277d98@pi-r-squared.com>
>Rose is her last name. I believe her first name is Winter :) > lol. But seriously, I think her name is Rosemary somethin or other..
Palpatine "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time "So You're saying that in your scientific opinion, Bess McNeil died from an overdose of... being good..?" -Breaking the Waves
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:34:02 +0300 From: "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: re: Alex Skolnick Message-ID: <003a01beb6a5$477ebd60$0f06a8c0@xxx>
>Who's this drummer Tim Alexander? Worked with someone else?
Dushko, shame on you! :-))))))) Haven't you heard the magic word "Primus"???
DTC: I'm proud to announce that now I'm the most happiest person in this world... Why? Because of the drumhead I have on my wall. Which is signed. It's written:
"To Victor Carpe Diem! Mike Portnoy Dream Theater"
YAY!!!!!!!!!!
Victor, the happiest (and only) Bulgarian Jammer
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:30:12 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: Rosie / music schools Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C960564980941E@messaging>
Rosemary Patricia Burns, for you inquiring minds... :)
David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
> -----Original Message----- > From: bplumb@pi-r-squared.com [SMTP:bplumb@pi-r-squared.com] > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 1:12 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Rosie / music schools > > > > >Rose is her last name. I believe her first name is Winter :) > > > > lol. But seriously, I think her name is Rosemary somethin or other.. > > Palpatine > "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel > "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New > Hope > "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: > Somewhere in time > "So You're saying that in your scientific opinion, Bess McNeil died from > an > overdose of... being good..?" -Breaking the Waves
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:07:47 EDT From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Reading the Lisa Marie Jam When a Pat Fight Broke Out... Message-ID: <3a87548a.2496d733@aol.com>
Someone oh so naive queried: >I also heard from somebody that all of DT has doctorates. Is this true as >well?
This is true if one assigns "penis" as the meaning for "doctorate."
NP: Pride and Glory
Kevin
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 15:41:50 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Bee good to yourself. Message-ID: <000301b7faa4$0e4ebe00$0201010a@chuck>
>laugh). Ok, my theory on "mystery ooze" is that possibly that bee was >working on turning your case into a honeycomb or beehive.
Aye, he was pollenating the pot that was stashed in there. Bad boy! Drugs are bad, mmkay?
>dave done said, in reference to the alan parsons project: >"Though I have heard the name, I haven't heard their music... :)"
Actually, APP had a fairly decent hit song back in the early 80's called "Eye in the Sky." It's fairly likely that you'd know it if you heard it. "I am the eye in the sky, looking at you, ooh, ooh, I can feel your mind..." It's a really spacy song, kind of like a pop Pink Floyd. Except that's the only song I've heard of theirs so I can't weigh it against their other stuff. :) Bad memories that song brings. I went on a nasty bad Nitrous Oxide trip at the dentist's office while that song kept playing over and over again. I was only like 8 at the time, too. It might explain why I started listening to Twisted Sister at such a young age...
>lol. But seriously, I think her name is Rosemary somethin or other...
I'm pretty sure I have it scribed in the Book of Knowledge somewhere. If I could only find the damned thing. I'll look for the name and post it just so I can look like a DT braniac know-it-all cheesecake or something. :)
>Can someone direct me to a/send me Alex Skolnick photo!?
Aye. You can also try picking up any old Testament CD from 1994 and back, but some of those old photos are rather goofy. :) Back when the whole band had pre-Promised Land Eddie Jackson hairdo's. :) Long and puffy. hehehe. Eddie roolz. -- KorgX3 NP: Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:47:16 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Multiple Hi-hats Message-ID: <1644754e.2496e074@aol.com>
>< Most drummers use the double hi-hat configuration in order to have easy access to both closed and open hi-hat sounds when playing double bass. ><
Or you could just savr your money and buy a drop clutch for your main hats.
>< I have my aux. hat on a cable. This is called a remote, or cable, hi-hat because it is a fully functional hi-hat, it can be opened and closed by the pedal. The pedal for the remote hi hat is seperaate from the main hi hat. ><
If it's separate from the main hats, then where is the pedal? Next to the main hi-hat pedal? next to one of the bass pedals? where?
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:52:19 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Bee good to yourself. Message-ID: <376587A3.F7B3D22E@yunque.net>
Korg Ecksthrey wrote:lol. But seriously, I think her name is Rosemary somethin or other...
> I'm pretty sure I have it scribed in the Book of Knowledge somewhere. If I > could only find the damned thing. I'll look for the name and post it just > so I can look like a DT braniac know-it-all cheesecake or something. :) >
Rosemary Patricia Burns
heh look at the awake liners people!
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:02:09 GMT From: fateswarm _ <mlnglst@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Is your progressive band in need of musicians? Message-ID: <19990614230209.2090.qmail@hotmail.com>
Then visit the "Wanna join a prog band?" forum. There are loads of prog rock/metal musicians requests to join a band. The address is:
http://homex.s-one.net.sg/member/progmetal/wsapb.html OR http://jump.to/progmusicians
All the best, michael m.
ps. To join Epigram's prog metal/rock *discussion*, visit http://fly.to/epigram
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:25:39 EDT From: J C <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: FAQ U Message-ID: <19990614232540.26805.qmail@hotmail.com>
yeah. I guess the newbies, outlander and all will realise by themselves just by reading the jam! The 4-th time outlander starts receiving his jams full of top XX lists he'll scream out of agony too! :)
Oh make no mistake, I fully understand what a horrible, despicable thing i have done (sarcasm:on w/ blowers)thanx to mass amounts of email pointng that out!
However, I will re-post what i said to another person about this
Ive been into this band since WDADU and I listened to it on my own without the support of friends...(because they liked the heavy stuff)
So for years they were like MY band
Now, years later I see these people who have some type of elitist attitude, about how they cannot stoop so fucking low as to tell someone new who asks "Whats the big "M" for?" the answer without telling them that they need to read the FAQ
Some people, believe it or not, dont even know what the fuck a FAQ is or where you can find it!!
Would it kill any of these "long-time fans" to answer someone new without treating the person like they dont have enough sense to read some document that they dont know how to find???
Or for that matter (in my case) email me the lists and those that dont want to.....dont reply...its not necessary to make someone feel like they did something that fucked up your jam!
If I didn't already know about Dream Theater and i came to read this digest I would think that its some technical type band who uses 15/16 sigs and has fans who think they are some kind of secret society who WILL NOT condescend to answer some questions that have previously been answered 1800 jams ago
Not only that...but hasnt anyone noticed how many people on here do not post? Outside of ones who dont read it, I think some just dont want to have to deal with smart-ass flames and complaints about their questions.
And if youre saying everyone else reads the FAQ....I say this How the hell do you know if they do or not?
All im saying is stop thinking you're the only ones who "really" have the inside track on the band Because given most of the the 1st experience stories ive read no one else on here has listened to them as long as i have. And if someone asks me "Whats the Big M for?"
I am more than happy to tell them. The fact that i've explained this probably 60 times has nothing to do with it. I can do it again and to suggest that its wrong to do so is really lame
Outlander
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