RE: Classic prog-rock bands...

From: Eric Trautmann (etrautmann@cds-net.com)
Date: Fri Jun 25 1999 - 12:41:49 EDT

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    Thanks, your help is much appreciated! I'll definitely be getting some of
    these in a couple weeks.

    I've been a fan of Pink Floyd for quite a number of years. I saw them a
    couple times, I think it was in '94. What a show, I wish they would so
    another tour.

    I also saw ELP with Dream Theater last August. They were pretty good. I
    didn't know much about them at the time. As a result I got their Greatest
    Hits and the ELP tribute album. They're both awesome!

    I don't own any YES or Genesis yet, so they're next on my list.

    Thanks again,

    Eric

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Steve Chew [mailto:schew@tislabs.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:32 PM
    > To: ytsejam@ax.com
    > Cc: etrautmann@cds-net.com
    > Subject: Classic prog-rock bands...
    >
    >
    > >
    > >> Someone raised the question about whether Genesis was prog or not.
    > >> Listen to early Genesis . . . maybe even mid-Genesis.
    > >
    > >The recent postings on older prog groups like Genesis and Yes
    > have peaked my
    > >interest.
    > >
    > Glad to hear it. There's a lot of great stuff to be found.
    > You mentioned that you're starting to like some older prog music --
    > which bands?
    >
    >
    > >My background mainly consists of listening to metal, but I'm starting to
    > >really appreciate some older prog rock music. I'd love to know
    > two or three
    > >albums that some of you guys/gals consider to be the cornerstones of
    > >progressive rock. I'm thinking along the lines of Genesis, Yes, ELP, King
    > >Crimson, etc., but all opinions are welcome.
    > >
    >
    > You'll get a different answer from everyone you talk to, but here's
    > my take on the "classic" progressive rock bands. I'd say there are seven
    > "cornerstone" prog bands from the '70s and I've listed what I'd recommend
    > as a starting CD and follow-up CDs for each of them:
    >
    >
    > Band Start with Album Follow Up with Albums
    > ---- ---------------- ---------------------
    > Yes Classic Yes Fragile,
    > Close to the Edge,
    > Relayer,
    > The Yes Album,
    > 90125
    >
    > Genesis Selling England by Foxtrot,
    > the Pound Lamb Lies Down on Broadway,
    > Trick of the Tail
    >
    > ELP Brain Salad Surgery Trilogy,
    > Tarkus
    >
    > Jethro Tull Aqualung Thick as a Brick,
    > Minstrel in the Gallery,
    > A Passion Play,
    >
    > King Crimson Discipline Red,
    > Thrak
    >
    > Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon Animals,
    > Wish You Were Here
    > The Wall
    >
    > Rush Moving Pictures Hemispheres,
    > 2112
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > There are of course many, many other older prog bands worth
    > mentioning -- I had a hard time only choosing 7 -- but I think the
    > above bands set the standard. They made the initial inroads on what
    > prog-rock was all about and influenced much of what came after. They're
    > the albums that you'll find in most prog fan's collections. It's
    > interesting to note that all of those bands have released new material
    > in the past few years, though arguably not up to their earlier standards.
    > It was a fertile time for prog-rock.
    > Here's a brief paragraph to give you an idea of what each band
    > is like:
    >
    > Yes -- Complex music with great dynamics and vocals. Both guitar and
    > keyboards are prominent and the bass playing is amazing. They
    > have a kind of classical feel to them. I chose "Classic Yes",
    > which is a collection of their songs, to start with because I
    > think it has a good, representative selection of their work.
    > "Fragile" and "Close to the Edge" are wonderful. "Relayer" is
    > more experimental. For their eighties style, try 90125.
    >
    > Genesis -- They build a strong atmosphere and what seems simple turns out
    > to be quite complex. Guitar and keyboards work together along
    > with superb vocals. "Selling England..." is probably the most
    > representative of the Peter Gabriel-era albums.
    >
    >
    > ELP (Emerson, Lake and Palmer) -- These guys were the first to go all out
    > with the keyboards. They have a classical style and even "cover"
    > some classical pieces. They have a somewhat experimental sound.
    > "Brain Salad Surgery" is their classic album, with the epic
    > "Karn Evil 9".
    >
    > Jethro Tull -- Tull is less classically oriented with more influences from
    > rock and blues. They can rock with tunes like "Aqualung" or "Cold
    > Wind to Valhalla" and they can be quite proggy, like in "Thick as
    > a Brick", with lots of dynamics. Ian Anderson's strong vocals
    > are phenomenal, as is Martin Barre's guitar work. "Aqualung" is
    > not all that proggy, but it's a strong album and is accessible.
    > "Minstrel in the Gallery" combines many of their rock elements
    > with prog complexity. "A Passion Play" is probably their most
    > progressive album, but is harder to get into.
    >
    > King Crimson -- These guys set the standard for experimental progressive
    > rock. Their music isn't necessarily that melodic which makes it
    > hard to get into. They can be atmospheric and then very aggressive
    > with their music. The vocals aren't as important as for most of
    > the other bands in this list. Robert Fripp is the foundation of
    > the band, and Tony Levin (see LTE) has been their bass player
    > for a while. They have four distinct phases so it's hard to
    > choose any single album to start with. I personally like
    > Discipline the best, so I chose that one. "Thrak" is somewhat
    > reminiscent of LTE (often very aggressive), but more
    > experimental. "Red" is a good example of their second phase.
    >
    >
    > Pink Floyd -- Most of you are probably familiar with these guys. They
    > set the standard for the more atmospheric style of prog-rock.
    > They didn't leave behind making great songs though. "Animals"
    > is probably one of their most progressive albums, with long
    > instrumental sections that build a lot of power. The vocals
    > are superb, blending well with the music and lifting it beyond
    > being just atmospheric.
    >
    >
    > Rush -- Another band that most everyone probably already knows. These
    > guys were among the first to take the heavier rock and make
    > complex music out of it. Along with the earlier hard-rock bands,
    > I feel these guys set the stage for prog-metal. They made some
    > epic songs (like 2112) while also maintaining great melodies
    > and strong music. Again the vocals fit very well with the
    > music. They're probably the closest in style to DT of the bands
    > listed. "Moving Pictures" is representative of both their
    > strong song writing and their prog elements. For the more
    > prog-oriented, try Hemispheres or 2112.
    >
    >
    >
    > One thing to keep in mind when trying out these bands is that
    > they're not DT. They aren't generally as heavy or as modern sounding.
    > Also, while these are among my favorite bands, you probably won't like
    > them all -- I'm not as much into King Crimson for example. It will
    > probably take some time to appreciate their styles, but it's worth the
    > effort.
    > Every once in a while I wish that I could be just discovering
    > these bands again. It's great fun... Enjoy!
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >
    >
    >



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