YTSEJAM Digest 4718
Today's Topics:
1) Today's topic: People that irritate me.
by "Stone Korg" <korgx3@safelink.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4717
by VWgirlieVW@aol.com
3) Re: Lemur Voice
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4717
by robgaul@juno.com
5) Tires/lists
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
6) Re: James Murphy - Feeding the Machine
by Esteban Bolanos <ebolanos@netscape.net>
7) Re: James Murphy - Feeding the Machine
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
8) LTE videos...
by "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
9) Platt Opus MIDI
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
10) Re: JR Chat on Artist Shop
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl>
11) MP3 --> MD (NDTC)
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
12) Re: Symphony X's prog style
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
13) Savatage... whats up now?
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
14) Ocean Machine??
by "Indii" <indii@twave.net>
15) Just A Reminder
by Yes0001@aol.com
16) Re: MP3 --> MD (NDTC)
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
17) Symphony X / AyameYuki the ever-helpful one / Testament (Alex Skolnick)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:45:42 -0700
From: "Stone Korg" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Today's topic: People that irritate me.
Message-ID: <007101be659d$bec98020$0201010a@chuck>
>Frederico <35 middle names snipped> Barbosa:
HE IS TRASH! I WOUD PUT HIM IN A TRASH CAN!
If I see any more top xx lists from him, his mom's gonna find a shitload of
porn on his computer and beat him until his genitals shrivel.
Christoph Scholtes quipped:
>Do YOU call YOURself an intelligent poster?
Do you think there is such a thing as an intelligent poster? A poster is a
decorative sheet hung on a wall generally depicting images for advertisement
puposes. If you have ever seen one capable of rationalizing that "fire is
bad," let me know so I can notify the proper authoraties.
>2.) I also know that the name of the greatest guitar player now
>living on this planet starts with J and ends with ohnpetrucci.
Actually, I'm the greatest guitar player on the planet. Just try and prove
I'm not.
>PS: REMEMBER 1.) READ 2.) WRITE !!!!!
3.) Arithmetic!!!!
Taking out the trash.
-- Stone Korg even irritates himself. Damn rashes.------------------------------
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:56:24 EST From: VWgirlieVW@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4717 Message-ID: <8669a795.36dd77c8@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/3/99 12:39:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
> I think it would be easier for you to get married in a DT concert in > betweensongs... heh :)
well...considering that the likelihood of them having the time or predisposition to play a WEDDING reception is about as likely as them doing a cover of a Backstreet Boys song....lol...we may do something along those lines, or at least try.....the only thing that sucks is that we wanted to do it late summer and their shows are normally winter months...
another possibility is that i could try to plead and beg until they agreed to dedicate a song to us,......that alone would suffice. : )
the girlie, Nicole ICQ# 29046950 VWgirlieVW@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:21:43 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Michael Patrick <civilwar@my-dejanews.com> Subject: Re: Lemur Voice Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9903031318330.3341-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> Don't know that I want the new stuff to be harder, though. The >split-second Cookie Monster vocals in the 'Solicide' clip make me >nervous...
Don't be. Solicide's the only track with that kinda stuff on it. Just wait (trust me on this one!) until you hear "Lethe's Bowl" and "Perudian Trust" - the albums gonna smoke.
- mike, webmaster of the official u.s. lemur voice website.
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:21:24 +0000 From: robgaul@juno.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4717 Message-ID: <19990303.132556.-66115.0.robgaul@juno.com>
damn i thought part of being into music was to help others. i may not be the best bassist in the world but i think helping someone learn or get info on something that interests them thus expanding their minds is worth the time. and who said we were getting paid? its not money that were on this list. its to discuss a common interest. helping others is its own reward. if u have to spend time bitching about someone asking a question go to the alt.fuckoff.postings site .. by the way. i may not post on here but ive subscribed for the last 2 years. and i dont recall those sites being listed. if im wrong fine. i would have loved it if someone was nice enough to help me find things like that when i first started getting into prog music. its one of the more obscure and hard to find types of music. and maybe u should grow the hell up. sg--rob gaul
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:31:37 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Tires/lists Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.990303131319.8567A-100000@gs.bass.org>
MusicSnob shouted: >Free Tires! Pick 'em up on SW Freeway, btwn the Maine Av. & Potomac Park >exits
I guess that's East Potomac Park. /me briefly contemplates running down there, after all it's on my way home, but then remembers I don't have a car. Or a creek in my back of my house to swing over, well there *is* the channel...
Frederico Barbosa blithely ignored the posted ytserules and posted <Top 25/30 lists snipped>
I don't recall any solicitations for lists, and certainly not with incremental additions of 5 names every couple of hours. How far does this intend to go? I certainly would hope it ceases before top 105 are posted. Please remember the rules Skadz hath decreed. Thank you.
Dave said: >[the new album] proves me horribly HORRIBLY
disfigured? oh, sorry.
I first heard Devin on Sex and Religion, then heard Strapping Young Lad's cover of Sinner, and got City then the other two. I'm waiting for my next paycheck to come in before ordering OM and Infinity. *urk* must have Devin. must listen Devin all time. *urk* But I don't think I've been brainwashed or anything.
NP VA: Humanary Stew (Still listening, Bruce Bruce rocks, Daltrey's cool, Dee Snider, eeehhh, Mustaine's cool) Todd Rundgren: A Capella ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's bimonthly musical quote:
Power now is all the rage/ Don't excuse it use it well/ Keep the lion in his cage/ Free from hunger, free from hell.
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Date: 3 Mar 99 11:00:58 PST From: Esteban Bolanos <ebolanos@netscape.net> To: DT Mailinglist <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: James Murphy - Feeding the Machine Message-ID: <19990303190058.5055.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net>
Trevor W. Hoit wrote: =
> Just got the new one-Feeding the Machine. > There are lots guests on it. > I don't know who some are. > Help me out.
In the CD's liner notes, right below 'the guests' list, there's another = list that specifies from which bands those musicians are from. For everyone el= se interested, here's the list:
Clark Brown - Geezer Chuck Billy - Testament John West, Vitalij Kuprij - Artension Trent Gardner - Magellan Chris Long - Under Matt Guillory, Jeremy Colson - Dali's Dilemma Steve DiGiorgio - Sadus.
Joe DeAngelo wrote: >> Percussion-Chris Kontos-? =
> I believe Chris Kontos is the former Machine Head drummer > (correct me if I'm wrong).
I think he played on Testament's 'Demonic' as well.
> But while we're on the subject, how is Feeding the Machine? > I have his first, and I'm wondering how this one compares? > (Awesome Dave McKean artwork on the cover, BTW)
Even though I got FtM just one week ago, I can tell you 'Convergence' is=
better. For example, Devin Townsend's vocals on Convergence are, by far, better than Clark Brown's and Chris Long's on FtM. Deen Castronovo's performance is better on Convergence also. FtM isn't a bad album, though.=
>> Vox-Chuck Billy-? =
> While I'm thinking about this one, he's the vocalist for > Testament! They are a pretty awesome thrash metal band. > Alex Skolnick plays guitar (or I assume he still does).
Alex Skolnick hasn't played in Testament since 'Low'; James Murphy playe= d on it. James Murphy also plays on the new Testament CD (which will be releas= ed in the following months) but he didn't play on 'Demonic'.
Take care, Esteban.
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:18:48 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: James Murphy - Feeding the Machine Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990303141807.27165C-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> From: Esteban Bolanos <ebolanos@netscape.net> > Subject: Re: James Murphy - Feeding the Machine > > > I believe Chris Kontos is the former Machine Head drummer > > (correct me if I'm wrong). > > I think he played on Testament's 'Demonic' as well.
i'm pretty sure Gene Hoglan of Death and Strapping Young Lad played drums on Demonic. moo.
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:41:06 -0500 From: "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE videos... Message-ID: <BDBBCD37EA65D1119E9600A0C9982D75CDEEBF@PW03>
does anyone know if there are any LTE videos out there for sale/trade besides the one that Calvin6S is offering? i don't have anything against his video (i now own a copy, in fact, and it's really good!)...i was mainly looking for one of the east coast shows...
please E-mail me privately if you can help...
thanx!
mikE ____________________________________________________________
"May God stand between you and harm In all the empty places where you must walk..."
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:28:05 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Platt Opus MIDI Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498092E0@messaging>
Does anyone have a MIDI file of DS's piano/organ lines in "Platt Opus" by Platypus (preferably high quality, but I could definitely use anything)? I'm trying to learn to play it and am having a helluva time (guess who's a guitarist, not a pianist!)...
Thanks a lot, David
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:44:36 +0100 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: JR Chat on Artist Shop Message-ID: <7726C831126F.AAA6ACB@Iguanodon.big-orange.net>
Dave Ware asked:
> Can anybody point me to a transcript of the JR Artist Shop > chat that happened the other week...? I missed it and they > don't seem to update their page very often.
It's on UACM in the articles section:
Articles/Interviews/Jordan Rudess
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:59:25 +0100 From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no> To: "The YtseJam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: MP3 --> MD (NDTC) Message-ID: <01cb01be65c1$29fd1d20$5be64382@default>
I was just wondering, do mp3's (or music in general) loose any HEARABLE quality when recorded to a MiniDisc?
Knowing how some of you guys are when it comes to "techie" questions, I'm looking forward to seeing your answers. E-mail me in private ( jonasops@online.no )=20 if you don't think this is a suitable thread for the Jam.
Jonas Opsal - jonasops@online.no ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dream Theater website: http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Note: For any visitors to my DT website, I haven't updated for quite a while because I am working on a new DT website (basicly new design) which I hope will be up soon. I'll let you all know when it's up.
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:06:10 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Symphony X's prog style Message-ID: <19993316429441@ix.netcom.com>
I only have 1 Symphony X album, The Divine Wings of Tragedy, but based on this, I can say that most of the time, they are a more symphonic type of prog metal in the way Yes can get on songs like Awaken and And You and I, and less of a DT/Fates style. Not to say they cant get heavy. I find them heavier than DT, and their singer can get on the verge of cookie monster stuff sometimes, but can also shoot into the stratosphere.
Very good band, nonetheless.
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:08:04 -0800 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Savatage... whats up now? Message-ID: <000001be65d3$13074160$0365f7cc@markphil>
Jam,
Anyone know what Savatage is doing right now. I know they are just finishing up their TSO release which should be comming out soon, but are they then going to go back to the studio? Tour for Savatage or TSO?
Thanks for the info
Mark Philpot http://www.ccnet.com/~griphiam/musiccreations.htm
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:19:21 -0500 From: "Indii" <indii@twave.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ocean Machine?? Message-ID: <01185243766837@twave.net>
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> > Speaking of Devin - I have to agree with the recent throng of swooning. > My favorite album of all time: Sex & Religion by Vai. (Devin is on > vocals and is ALL OVER the album.) > Ocean Machine is too beautiful for words > Infinity is too weird for words. (I like it, but not as much as Ocean > Machine and Sex & Religion)
I've heard so much about this album (Ocean Machine) from you guys (and gals). What is the name of the band that wrote it? Same name?When was it released.
I'm heading out to the store friday to pick up some of the CD's you guys have suggested, I only know 2 people besides me who really like (or really know about) Dream Theater, and one is about 180 miles away. So i feel alone out here, until i started getting this newsletter. Thanks guys for keeping me sane! Anyway, the CD's are: Symphony X: The Divine Wings of Tragedy Spock's Beard: The Beard is Out There Live Marillion: Best of Both Worlds LTE & EC: AOI and possibly Rhapsody: Symphony of Enchanted Lands
Are these good choices? Should i get another album by these bands (other than what i listed).
Last thing. I know it's sometimes hard to put bands in categories, but what category do you place Dire Straits and Jethro Tull in? I always considered them prog-rock!? I could also see them catagorized as just rock. Just need some feedback on this if you have the time for a fellow jammer.
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:35:47 EST From: Yes0001@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Just A Reminder Message-ID: <a9ea0ad1.36ddff93@aol.com>
Just a reminder, in the archives at Music Street Journal (www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/) there are both reviews and interviews related to Dream Theater..
Gary Music Street Journal
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:12:32 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: MP3 --> MD (NDTC) Message-ID: <199903040512.AAA14261@optical.mindstorm.com>
A thousand monkeys in Jonas Opsal's basement typed:
> I was just wondering, do mp3's (or > music in general) loose any HEARABLE > quality when recorded to a MiniDisc?
If I understand the MD format as well as I think I do, the quality of MD recordings today is a lot better than it was. I remember reading that early on, the sampling rate was absolutely atrocious, and is now getting closer to what one would consider no noticeable loss, but that it's still not as good as CD or DAT.
Of course, it all depends on what's noticeable to you, and what's not. You know there are people out there that swear by LPs because, when in great condition, they sound better than CDs, because CDs, even though sampled really well, are still digital and therefore, by definition, lossy. These people remind me of a quote (I forget the attribution): "Musicians listen to music; audiophiles listen to noise."
There are also people out there that listen to Hanson, so just remember to get a little background on the person who's nipples you're accepting.
The moral of the story (as usual): YMMV. -d
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:33:06 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Symphony X / AyameYuki the ever-helpful one / Testament (Alex Skolnick) Message-ID: <36DE1B12.17D97E2@home.com>
James Hunt wrote: > Also, I have a question about Symphony X: I've seen a bunch of you RAVE > long and loud about them, their guitar player, etc. My question is, > just what style are they? Straight metal? Hard rock? Prog metal? > Neo-prog? Other? Enough choices for ya? :-)
Symphony X is heavy neoclassical prog-metal. CHECK THESE GUYS OUT!!! Expect some ball-bustingly heavy rhythm guitar, 100% SHRED guitar solos, fantasy inspired lyrics, and fantastic vocals. I highly recommend you get The Divine Wings of Tragedy (my fave), but Twilight In Olympus is very good too.
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Cliffbur10@aol.com asked where to find DT MP3's and AyameYuki spewed forth this reply: > why not just look up the sites yourself! ( big hint : look on WWW . typing in > the words : dream theater COULD help you know ).
Firstly, KUDOS to AL for helping the guy out.
Secondly, to AyameYuki: Great fucking plan. Let's scare any would-be DT lovers away from A. The Ytsejam B. Maybe even away from DT!
By the way - - not everybody is an internet expert. If he does what you say to do (and assuming he adds DOT COM) he's going to land at www.dreamtheater.com, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with DT.
Damn, your post practically made me fucking gag. Oh, and since I'm siding with AL over you ....... that probably makes me a misogynist, right?
AL also said: > One of the PRIMARY functions of the Jam is HELPING other DT fans.
Amen 100% brother. I mean, if WE can't even help out a fellow Jammer WITH A DT RELATED QUESTION, then I suggest we terminate the existence of the Ytsejam, as of Ytsejam Digest 4717.
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Chris Martin said: > >Vox-Chuck Billy-? > > While I'm thinking about this one, he's the vocalist for Testament! They > are a pretty awesome thrash metal band. Alex Skolnick plays guitar (or I > assume he still does).
He unfortunately doesn't. James Murphy replaced him on their LOW album, and I'm not sure who played lead on their Demonic disc. I can tell you that since he left Testament, Alex played lead guitars on Savatage's Handful of Rain (excellent CD), and his latest project is called The Skol-Patrol (jazz solo project, evidently).
Oh, and you are correct: Testament kicks ass. I highly recommend The Ritual to anybody who's a fan of older Metallica style metal.
- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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