YTSEJAM Digest 4750
Today's Topics:
1) Andre Matos
by Debbie Seeger <dseeger@juno.com>
2) Bad drummers
by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
3) talkin' trash with Yngwie
by Michael Stoner <mdstoner@pcocd2.intel.com>
4) Re: Queensryche
by "Charlie Galindo" <charlie_2112@hotmail.com>
5) NDTC - CD burners, some help....
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4748
by mjt <wilco@wybbs.mi.org>
7) Re: I've been holding back this turd for 12 hours! :P
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Re: Queensryche
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
9) NDTC-please help!
by "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com>
10) Tonight show
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
11) (no subject)
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
12) Peace and Love and Good Happiness Stuff
by "Indii" <indii@twave.net>
13) Joshua's Journey (Zappa content)
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
14) Are you a music geek? NDTC
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
15) Rant
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:45:36 -0600
From: Debbie Seeger <dseeger@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Andre Matos
Message-ID: <19990316.194803.3958.1.dseeger@juno.com>
Korg spewed forth:
>>> There is a rumor that Andre Matos is going to leave Angra for
>
>Actually, this is quite true! I don't want to tell but I've been
>keeping in
>good touch with Andre over email of late. Here's a forward of his
>last
>message he sent me...
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andre Matos <viper23@aol.br>
>>To: Korgito Suave <korgx3@safelink.net>
>>Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 5:12 AM
>>Subject: Check this shit out!
>>
>>Hola, Korgster! Guess what? Brasil just fucking ran out of cows,
>man!
>>Fodas. I'm out of this shithole. No fucking cows and my leather
>pants are
>>gonna be expensive as hell! I can't sing high without my nads
>pinched
>>backwards! Shit, man... I hear Germany's got alot of cows. I just
>tried
>>out for some Gamma Ray band. They suck, but with me I could turn
>them
>>around. Hey, man, I got to go. Tico Torres is taking me over to
>Rio. I'm
>>getting my hair pulled up into dreads, man. Cool, huh?
>>
>>By the way, thanks for the condoms, man. Those damn things cost more
>than
>>herpies treatments here. Not worth it. Shiiiit...
>>
>>Adios Amigo!
>>--
>>Viper
>
Korg, HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OF MY FUTURE HUSBAND LIKE THAT?!?!?!
:)
Still lurking,
Debbie
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:21:55 -0600
From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Bad drummers
Message-ID: <007801be701c$ef8ad180$195299d1@default>
I've got the King of bad drummers.......does anyone remember Rikki Rocket
from Poison? He had to be the worst drummer of all time.
Mike
Mike and Susan Verstraete
www.sound.net/~homewks
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:37:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Stoner <mdstoner@pcocd2.intel.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: talkin' trash with Yngwie
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.990316182421.18024E-100000@frc730>
> BTW when Yngwie does those rate-a-record things he says things that are
> about a fucking *trillion* times more offensive!! And funny. Did you know
> he said Portnoy's playing was too busy and that he should start take
> sedatives once? That's a tounge-in-cheek *compliment*! :) He probably
I remember reading one of those where Yngwie said that Steve Morse's
vibrato sucked. That comment might offend just a FEW people on this list.
I also recall Yngwie saying something to the effect of "Unlike other
guitarists, I refuse to play things that are rubbish..." This was
obviously pre-1990, when Yngwie started playing NOTHING BUT rubbish (well,
80% rubbish anyway).
- Mike
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:41:54 PST
From: "Charlie Galindo" <charlie_2112@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Queensryche
Message-ID: <19990317024157.26276.qmail@hotmail.com>
Daniel Beziz wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>For a long time I've been wondering about Queensryche why they chose
>that as their name.
>It is a reminder of their first Ep "Queen of the Reich", but what was
it
>about ?
>I always tend to get suspicious when anyone uses this kind of
>references...
>And I wouldn't like to have given money to a fascist or nazi band, no
>matter how I might like their music... (except of course for "Hear
>In...", which should have gone straight to the first trashcan near the
>recording studio instead of being released)
>So if someone could give me some explanation, they'd be more than
>welcome!
>
>
>--
>"Understanding is a three-edged sword"
> -Kosh
>________________________
>Daniel Beziz
It is my understanding that they chose 'Queensryche' purely as a
derivative of "Queen of the Reich." It's not like they are the official
band of the Aryan nation, they just chose that name from the song. I
suppose they were in a bit of a jam (not a ytsejam, though) and needed a
name. I know that I have read this somewhere, but I am not sure where.
But that is the basic story, to the best of my knowledge.
Charlie Galindo
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:13:08 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: NDTC - CD burners, some help....
Message-ID: <36EF1DC4.9116762E@winshop.com.au>
Hello Jammers,
I was just wondering if any of you learned members of the CD burning
community could lend some advice to a complete novice.
I am looking at purchasing my first burner - I'm only looking at
purchasing a cheaper unit around $500 - $650 (Aus) - which brands are
the best to go for? Is there any particular ones that prove better than
the rest? I'm looking at either the Panasonic 8R4W, or Ricoh 6W2R2RW,
are these decent?
I mainly wish to use it for backing up image files and other data,
ripping the occasional CD and burning MP3/WAVs.
If anyone can pass on any info it would be muchly appreciated. Please
reply privately: slslb@winshop.com.au
Thanks,
Luke.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:27:19 -0500
From: mjt <wilco@wybbs.mi.org>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4748
Message-ID: <000a01be7026$114bc8c0$c23ec998@hp-customer>
>didn't, but someone else has beat me to it. As far as ITtOD itself
>goes...The only thing that gets my goat is "All My Love" - but only
>lyrically. Musically, it sounds like modern Pink Floyd - the solo
>section is so simple but it's so great as well. AND it's all in 4/4.
As irrelevant as it may be, just to chime in on the ITtOD, I've got to say
that my favorite all time zeppelin tune is "Fool in the Rain."
mjt
--
"Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding
A pool in the shape of a heart."
-- Kevin Moore of Dream Theater, "Space-Dye Vest"
ICQ: 3856787
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:41:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: I've been holding back this turd for 12 hours! :P
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990316223838.4948A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
> He also has a couple of songs in 7/8. He has a real whacko way of
> counting 7/8, too. It's like 1 1-2 1 1-2-3. But he makes it sound real
> easy and people dig the shit out of it. In Nostalgia he does this
> haunting 5/4 melody that counts out 1-2 1-2-3... Just badass things
> that are hard to play.
Actually, the 7/8 time sigs that he writes USUALLY go 1-2-3 1-2-3-4. The
reason for this is because most of the 7/8 he writes is in a certain Greek
dance style. As for the 9/8, that is ALWAYS supposed to go 1-2-3 1-2-3
1-2-3, because it's a compound meter with triplets. But we've already
been through this (anybody who's been on the jam for more than five months
remembers our awful experience with 5/12).
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.ml.org/
_Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not
for you.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:50:56 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Queensryche
Message-ID: <002001be7029$7702e100$6b0d84d0@default>
>suppose they were in a bit of a jam (not a ytsejam, though) and needed a
>name. I know that I have read this somewhere, but I am not sure where.
>But that is the basic story, to the best of my knowledge.
I'm trying to remember my Queensryche history lesson, and as I recall...
The band (sans Geoff) used to be called Crossfire, then after Geoff joined
they pulled all of their money together from their dayjobs to get into the
studio to record a 4 song EP under the name "The Mob." Of course that four
song EP was later released as the self-titled Queensryche release with
Nightrider, Queen of the Ryche, et al. I don't know why that changed the
name to Queensryche, but it sure as hell beats "The Mob" imo. heheh. I
read this somewhere years ago so I can't say whether it's true or not (and
some of it is pretty hazy, too) :)
Wow. I'm contributing something other than bullshit!
--
KorgX3 encourages you all to do the same.
NP: Altura: Mercy (I think I just heard someone gasp in horror)
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:38:32 PST
From: "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: NDTC-please help!
Message-ID: <19990317053832.15525.qmail@hotmail.com>
Anyone out there that taped Tori Amos on VH1 Storytellers, please help
me! the tape for me didn't happen. instead, it taped Shania Twain for
2 minutes! anyone who has this on tape and is interested in a trade,
please e-mail me privately at hellstorm@hotmail.com ! please help me
here!
thanks,
dave
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:26:30 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Tonight show
Message-ID: <19990317062630.19443.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
I just got through watching Seal perform on the Tonight Show with the
almighty Tony Levin. He played a song from his latest cd Human Being
but I can't remember the song. Did any one else catch the name of it?
Oh well, this is a tour I can't wait to see. Seal has a really good
band with him right now.
later all
==
John Parks
jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:25:42 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <36EF58F6.D548D1D1@bigfoot.com>
Ok, I have to vent.
Here's the deal: I'm trying to be a comedian. I'm lucky enough to live
in the NYC area, and I go to manhatten 4-6 times a week and hone my
craft. I've only been doing it since october, so I'm basically limited
right now to the open-mic scene, which is like an overlapping
sub-circuit of the regular scene. Anyway, open mic'ers will take what we
can get. We take any opportunity to practice for a crowd of loud drunks,
the concept being that if you got the funny for these obnoxious freaks,
you got not problem when you're lucky enough to perform for a paying
audience. And this is true. So I don't much mind having to yell over the
crowds at times - it's a challenge; it makes me stronger. Mentally, of
course. Physically, I can maybe bench a shrimp fork.
Anyway, tonight was just too much. I'm at a bar, I'm about to go on,
I've worked there before and done well enough that people have
congratulated me afterward. So I'm confident - until, at the EXACT
second I hit the stage, someone walks in the door, and someone else goes
"HEY, IT'S NEAL SCHON FROM JOURNEY!"
And it was. I had to be upstaged for 10 minutes of hell by Journey's
guitar player. Fuckin' Journey, man! I didn't stand a chance. Who wants
me when there's Journey! Journey, Journey, Journey!
The only consolation is I pissed him off. I figured, everyone's talking
to Neal instead of listening to me, hell, I'll grab the mic and talk to
him too. The only problem is, I dont know a damned thing about Journey:
Me: So you were in Journey, eh?
Neal: Still am.
Me: What? when did you guys break up?
Neal: We didn't. Get that mic away from me.
Me: Now hold on, wait a sec, Journey Boy, what did you play?
Neal: *sigh* We're still together. Guitar.
Me: Huh. Right, right, you were a little before my time. I do like that
one song, "Who can it be now".
So I fucked with him a little, I'm sorry. It was wrong, I was bitter. So
anyway, I think it's safe to say I'll be stopped at the door and beaten,
should I try to go to any Journey events in the future.
--
Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel
Churchill's description of history: "It's just one damn thing after
another."
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:27:37 -0500
From: "Indii" <indii@twave.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Peace and Love and Good Happiness Stuff
Message-ID: <07273634330993@twave.net>
Since i'm sorta new here i don't know what all has been talked about
or done in the past (ie the Top 40 list Flamedown '99 that has taken
place recently and the Met. stuff). So if this has been done and is
a prohibited subject, just post one note about it, so it won't turn
into something ugly..anyhoo...
I would like for everyone to list thier favorite music:
1) band
2) guitarist
3) bassist
4) keyboardist
5) drummer
6) vocals
7) album
This is not to generate flames or who sucks and who doesn't battles.
I just thought i would give everyone an idea of what everyone else
likes, for a little spicing up the group. And if someone says Kirk
Cobain is their fav guitarist or "Weird Al" is their fav. band, i
don't want someone to say this guys a Blind Melon loving pussy
(cause chances are he already knows that ) Just for FUCKS sake.
Dream Theater (Pink Floyd a close second)
JP
Joey DeMaio
Kevin Moore
Scott Columbus
JLB ( w/ Jeff Buckley & Jim Morrison close behind)
The Wall
indii
CP; Queen: A Kind of Magic
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:43:42 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Joshua's Journey (Zappa content)
Message-ID: <001201be7049$e2e16b60$560d84d0@default>
>anyway, I think it's safe to say I'll be stopped at the door and beaten,
>should I try to go to any Journey events in the future.
You go boy! *glances at his Neal Schon CD collection*
Now how's about I whup you like a baby seal?
*hefts a lead-filled snowshoe behing his back* :)
--
KorgX3 says, "How about a nice game of chess?"
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:21:25 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Are you a music geek? NDTC
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3E34@ms.kallback.com>
This might apply to some people on this list. :)
> YOU MIGHT BE A 'MUSIC GEEK' IF . . .
> (1) your favorite pickup line is, 'What's your favorite
> augmented sixth chord?'
>
> (2) you can look at a piece by Bach and say, 'You know,
> I think he could have gotten a much better effect this way . . .'
>
> (3) you like to march around your room to the rhythms of
> Stravinsky's 'Le Sacre du Printemps.'
>
> (4) you love to quote Walter Piston.
>
> (5) you long for the good old days of movable G-clefs.
>
> (6) you like polytonal music because, hey, the more keys the merrier.
>
> (7) you dream in four parts.
>
> (8) you feel the need to end Tchaikovsky's Pathetique
> Symphony with a picardy third.
>
> (9) you can improvise 16th century counterpoint with
> no trouble, but you frequently forget how to tie your shoes.
>
> (10) you lament the decline of serialism.
>
> (11) you enjoy the tang of a tritone whenever you can.
>
> (12) you like to deceive your friends and loved ones with
> deceptive cadences.
>
> (13) you only drink fifths, and then you laugh at the pun.
>
> (14) instead of counting sheep, you count sequences.
>
> (15) you only sing tunes that make good fugal subjects.
>
> (16) you find free counterpoint too liberal.
>
> (17) Moussorgsky's 'Hopak' gives you nightmares.
>
> (18) you wonder what a 'Danish Sixth' would sound like.
>
> (19) the 'Corelli Clash' gives you goosebumps.
>
> (20) you can hear an enharmonic modulation coming a mile away.
>
> (21) you have ever done a Schenkerian analysis on 'Three Blind Mice.'
>
> (22) you have ever tried to do a Schenkerian analysis on
> John Cage's '4'33''.
>
> (23) you have hosted a 'Gurrelieder' party.
>
> (24) you have ever pondered what an augmented seventh
> chord would sound like.
>
> (25) bass motion by ascending thirds or a sequential pattern
> with roots in ascending fifths immediately strikes you as 'belabored.'
>
> (26) you know what the ninth overtone of the harmonic
> series is off the top of your head.
>
> (27) you can name ten of Palestrina's contemporaries.
>
> (28) you can answer your phone with a tonal or a real answer.
>
> (29) you have ever heard a wrong note in a performance of a
> piece by Berio, Stockhausen, or Boulez.
>
> (30) you suspiciously check all the music you hear for dangling
> sevenths.
>
> (31) when you're feeling particularly prankish, you transpose
> Mozart arias to locrian mode.
>
> (32) you keep a notebook of useful diminutions.
>
> (33) those 'parasitic' dissonances make you queasy, especially
> when left unresolved.
>
> (34) you have composed variations on a theme by Anton Webern.
>
> (35) you know the difference between a Courante and a Corrente.
>
> (36) you have trained your dog to jump through a flaming circle of
> fifths.
>
> (37) you have ever used the word 'fortspinnung' in polite
> conversation.
>
> (38) you feel cheated by evaded cadences.
>
> (39) you have a poster of Allen Forte in your room.
>
> (40) you know who Allen Forte is.
>
> (41) every now and then you like to kick back and play something in
> hypophrygian mode
>
> (42) you wonder why there aren't more types of seventh chords.
>
> (43) you wish you had twelve fingers.
>
> (44) you abbreviate your shopping list using figured bass.
>
> (45) you always make sure to invert your counterpoint , just in case.
>
> (46) you have ever told a joke that had this punchline : 'because it
> was
> POLYPHONIC!'
>
> (47) you know dirty acronyms for the order of sharps.
>
> (48) you consider all music written between 1750 and 1920 to be
> 'rather
> elementary.'
>
> (49) you memorize dates and times by what they would sound like in set
> theory.
>
> (50) you can not only identify any one of Bach's 371 Harmonized
> Chorales
> by
> ear, but you also know on what page it appears in the Riemenschneider
> edition
> and how many suspensions it has in the first seven bars.
>
> (51) you got more than half of the jokes in this list.
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:47:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Rant
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0317094746-bc8rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Jon Finn
--------
OK - I was planning on going to see him later this month as part of the
International Rock Guitar Extravaganza tour, but I just got a letter from
the ticket agency saying the gig's been cancelled. I suspect this is due to
poor ticket sales, since I've heard of none of the other people on the
bill, and wouldn't even have heard of Jon Finn were it not for this list,
and when I bought my ticket a couple of weeks ago I think they'd sold about
ten.
Hint to music promoters: if you're going to stage an event which has the
words "International" and "Extravaganza" in the title, it might be a good
idea to try and get someone vaguely semi-famous on the bill. Otherwise,
nobody will buy tickets.
Anneke van Giersbergen
----------------------
I adore her voice. She sounds absolutely incredible on the latest album
from The Gathering ("How to Measure a Planet?"), and I recently bought
"Into the Electric Castle" by Ayreon in which she plays one of the
characters. (It's a rock opera, you see.) She sounds great on this one too
- especially "Valley of the Queens", which is basically just pure Anneke.
Hmmmmm. Lovely.
To my ears, there is no sweeter sound than Anneke van Giersbergen
harmonising with herself. (Do girls go blind if they do that too often?)
Martin Guerre
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This is the latest musical by Schonberg and Boublil (the chaps who wrote
Les Miserables). It's good. Great music, and a very impressive (if somewhat
minimalist) stage show. Sparse props were more than compensated for by some
incredible lighting and pyro effects. :-)
Shannon Hoon
------------
Everyone deserves to die. He just jumped the queue.
That's all for today. Speak to Cheryl on the way out, and she'll give you
another appointment to see me again next week.
Graham
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