YTSEJAM Digest 4760
Today's Topics:
1) Seal
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Savatage: Who sings what?
by Nick Storr <nstorr@ozemail.com.au>
3) Re: NP
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
4) All hail to the Reich
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
5) kiss + kx
by Adrian79@aol.com
6) Sigh...
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
7) To find Nightwish...
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
8) Re: Savatage: Who sings what?
by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
9) Queensryche Nazi Crap
by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
10) stretching rumours
by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
11) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?The true origin of the Queensr=FFche name ...?=
by Junesryche@aol.com
12) Oh Yeah Baby!!!
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
13) Vote KJLB!
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
14) Crackerjack clothes!!!!! ....(lol!!)
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
15) Re: Beatles/Zeppelin
by Ibanez506@aol.com
16) Re: Beatles and Jeff Beck can eat Jason Becker for a snack
by JKorby1973@aol.com
17) Re: various il shiz/Seal
by Ibanez506@aol.com
18) Platypus IRC
by "Indii" <indii@twave.net>
19) Re: Sigh...
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
20) NDTC: Anyone interested in being interviewed?
by "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net>
21) Prism boot question (NDTC)
by "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net>
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:37:44 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Seal
Message-ID: <36F39698.CA6F4A66@mol.com.mk>
I think "Kiss from a rose" is an awesome song!!!
This Seal guy, at least from the few songs I heard from him, is great!
"Crazy", "Future Love Paradise" etc. these are all great songs, with a
little of that psychodelic vibe in them! :)
And his Hey Joe cover sounds pretty good, compared to other covers I
hear nowadays (the disease of reworking every 70s hit into techno
version) :(
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:11 +1100
From: Nick Storr <nstorr@ozemail.com.au>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Savatage: Who sings what?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990320234809.007293e8@ozemail.com.au>
Hey all... I can probably get this from the liner notes if I look hard
enough... but they're at work 30km away so I can't be bothered... I'll ask
you lot instead :)
ON "The Wake of Magellan", which singer is which... I THINK Jon Olivia
sings "Another Way", "Paragons of Innocence" etc. and Zak Stevens does "The
Wake of Magellan" etc...
I know this is a really naive question, but I'm new to this band, despite
having been told many times to check them out, and I want to work out which
album I'm going to get next :)
Thanks!
Nick Storr
nstorr@ozemail.com.au
members.easyspace.com/honour
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:49:47 +0300
From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: NP
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990320154947.009822f0@messagebox.com>
> With the massive postings on Tori Amos, i felt left out and
>decided to try her out. Of the many albums listed Little
>Earthquakes, seemed to be mentioned the most so i went out and
>bought it. I have to say i am impressed. I usually don't like
>female bands or vocal (not a sexist pig thing either), i never
>really thought they could write or put emotion into thier songs the
>way guys do. I like Jewel (no flames please) because her songs were
>well written, very simple, and full of emotion.
well, as for me I only heard one Jewel's song and she sounded
as a Tori's copy!!! I am not talking her composer's skills here,
but her voice, man, I really think she is a huge Tori'fan, at
least I could here it!
~Peter
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:53:56 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: "Caught In a Jam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: All hail to the Reich
Message-ID: <35BECA7BFB@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
Maybe QR are just Catholics...After all, the First [Germanic]
Reich (better known as the Holy Roman Empire) was basically a
Catholic conspiracy to purge Europe of undesirables like Jews and
anything else they didn't like. So bloody hell, let's start ragging
on QR, The Roman Catholic church...good grief, what a large can of
worms...
(BTW, if anyone actually thinks that this is a defence of the 3rd
Reich - given some of the baloney I've seen on this list, someone's
bound to - then you've really gotta get some help.)
Si
p.s., just looked it up: the Swastika isn't a bhuddist symbol at all;
it's roots lie in...that's right, the Catholic chuch (although they
nicked it from Pagan times). It's though that this is where Hitler
got it from.
that's where
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A Man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real, suppression that he feels
Must turn to hope" -John Petrucci
s.j.dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk
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http://members.tripod.com/Lord_Ibanez/Lord_Ibanez.html
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:04:06 EST
From: Adrian79@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: kiss + kx
Message-ID: <e23ee00c.36f3aad6@aol.com>
> KISS means Kids In Satans Service
I always thought it meant Knights in Satans Service :-)
For those german jammers of you: King's X were on Virus on VIVA2 on Thursday.
They will show it again on Tuesday.
By the way I saw the JM signature Bass at the music fair in Frankfurt. It's
awesome. I saw it in red and blue. They said it'll cost about the same as the
TRB 4-string. That's cool!
Adrian
All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates.
-- Woody Allen
Fortune: You will be reincarnated as a toad; and you will be much happier.
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:30:36 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Sigh...
Message-ID: <v04020a00b3195fc02584@[195.14.244.189]>
>And just a quick political lesson for these people. The Nazis were the
>German socialist party. Socialism is politically LEFT, not right. About
>the only thing the Nazis were to the right of were the
communists. :-)
Now imagine Pat Sullivan driving and you holding the map:
"Now take the left turn. Left. Left! Not right! THAT way!"
DTC: I heard DT were Scottish separatists because of the Majesty symbol.
Please, could we return to the main topic here? LTE2 is coming soon and you
are taking about Metallica sellouts and Queensryche faschists, that's far
off, isn't it?
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@westend.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror) "Genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes. Like German people!" - South Park------------------------------
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 06:49:43 PST From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: To find Nightwish... Message-ID: <19990320144943.2233.qmail@hotmail.com>
Could someone e-mail me the e-mail address of the guy who I can send $$$$$ to for the new Nightwish CD? Someone said it was "Mape", but he hasn't posted recently and I can't find his e-mail address. Thanks for any help! Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:35:06 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Savatage: Who sings what? Message-ID: <4.1.19990320103114.013266e0@email.psu.edu>
At 05:09 AM 3/20/99, you wrote:
>ON "The Wake of Magellan", which singer is which... I THINK Jon Olivia >sings "Another Way", "Paragons of Innocence" etc. and Zak Stevens does "The >Wake of Magellan" etc...
You are correct. AW and PoI are the only two songs on the album that Jon does, unless of course you include the three bonus tracks at the end. If you're looking in to getting more 'Tage, Dead Winter Dead also features Jon on two songs and Zak on the rest. Handfull of Rain and Edge of Thorns feature Zak entirely. Everything prior, Jon. Hope this helps you out some.
Chris
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:45:52 +0000 From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Queensryche Nazi Crap Message-ID: <36F37C5C.20DDD4B1@mindspring.com>
Regarding this bullshit on the neo-nazi Queensryche thang, the name of the band has NOTHING to do with the Third Reich, or Nazi's, or even buffalo soup. As a matter of fact, the band is QUITE liberal and left-leaning in MANY of their views and ideals. So anyone who thinks otherwise should pick up EMPIRE and the conspiracy theory CD, OPERATION MINDCRIME and take a gander. Actually, they are considered one of the most influential bands on this new era of prog-rock anyhow. So, get ANY cd including th eabove and THE WARNING and RAGE FOR ORDER and you'll be happy for years.
SM
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:05:24 -0500 From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: stretching rumours Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990320120524.03ae02bc@popserver.panix.com>
[myself] > print..=20 ^^^ Ooops, I *really* thought I switched QP off for that mail.. very sorry
[Ptacek] > I find that Cool Edit does a better job at slowing things down. You can > choose very high sample rates and you can set up complex loops to help you > figure out what you're doing. syntrillium.com
I only have a very old version of CoolEdit, the stretching gives heavy artifacts.. perhaps it's better nowadays. If you want stretching/pitching that'll blow you away, try the (Dolson) phase vocoder. It's also included in the csound package (a separate 'pvanal' program and the 'pvoc' operator from within csound) but a bit of a pain in the ass to use there. Even more amazing is a Mac program called "Lemur", it uses some ingenious algorithms to exclude garbage, and find good approximations of the harmonic frequencies in each FFT frame (I mean even if the frequency is between bins). It's very slow though! And no PC version last I looked.
[KorgX3] > BTW, any words if Mike's next supergroup collaberation was still in mind? > The one with Neil Morse, Jim Matheos, Mike, and Pete Trawevas <sp?> (was it > Pete, my mind's a blank right now). I would really like to see a prog > supergroup come together and write (not right, damn homonyms) something to > blow the mainstream away.
I saw something on perpetual-motion about a Myung, Kevin Moore, Holdsworth, Mike Terrana project.. fairly improbable, to say the least. :) A rumour is just that, a rumour..
(Hey, I dreamt last night that Varney called me up and asked me to produce something... a writing collaboration between JS Bach and Stravinsky, writing a 50 minute progressive metal piece in expanded late-18th-century harmonic style, with lyrics by Kevin Moore on the concept of "Necessary Evil". Performed by Deen Castronovo, Eddie Jobson, Fredrik Thordendahl, and Russell Allen. But then alas i woke up.. ;) )
--- Jens. (offline) <jens@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/) -- If you want me to read your reply, send mail directly to me, or include the word 'jclob' somewhere in the post if it's to the list, as I filter all lists I'm subscribed to heavily!!
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:29:20 EST From: Junesryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?The true origin of the Queensr=FFche name ...?= Message-ID: <cd6eed66.36f3daf0@aol.com>
This is an excerpt directly from the band's official website ... I hope it gives you the information you need ... let this matter be laid to rest!!! = ... Tank U veddy much ... =3D)
=BA=BA=BAHow did Queensr=FFche begin? The (original) members of Queensr=FFche, all from the Seattle area, were involved in local bands before coming together under the name THE MOB and recorded a 4-song EP, which became the Queensr=FFche EP.
After the band's first managers suggested that a better name be found, the band chose Queensreich, taken from the title of one of the songs on their = EP, Queen of the Reich, but altered the spelling to Queensr=FFche to avoid bei= ng mistaken for nazi s=FFmpathizers.
=BA=BA=BAWhat is the Tri-R=FFche and what changes has it gone through? Man=FF moons ago, when the R=FFchean kingdom came into being, it was decre= ed that a crest s=FFmbolic of all that was good about Queensr=FFche should be brou= ght into existence (Ok, so that's not the real reason, but it was an interesting embellishment). Scott Rockenfield's brother, Todd designed a s=FFmbol, now= known as the Tri-R=FFche.The following is the evolution of the Tri-R=FFche.
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:55:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Oh Yeah Baby!!! Message-ID: <19990320175528.24910.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
I have to express my excitement somewhere and this seems like the right place. I just scored two tickets to see MESHUGGAH AND SLAYER in ST Paul!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to be a freakin great show.
== John Parks jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:31:27 EST From: ToxicSheep@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Vote KJLB! Message-ID: <ddf8d5bc.36f3f78f@aol.com>
I added James as a favorite male singer at freevote.com, and so far he's got one vote. (from me.) Considering all the people on the jam, lets just see if we can get him to the top, just for the hell of it. There are some good singers in there, some that completely suck, and some that aren't even singers. All you have to do is go to http://www.freevote.com/booth/favmale and cast your vote(s).... @ |> A (V)
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:10:02 -0500 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Crackerjack clothes!!!!! ....(lol!!) Message-ID: <36F4009A.19A737FC@earthlink.net>
Chris Potatosack declared:
> I'm only a fan of true "metal/prog/anything > like that" and I don't wear crackerjack clothes.
aaaaaaaahahahahahahahah....just brilliant!!!!!
Am I the ONLY "true metal" fan that caught that last line?!??!
bwaaaahahaah..great stuff...you gotta love that band just for their corniness factor. Plus they are a great metal band who some ppl take WAY too seriously..they are fun and meant to be interpreted as so.
"Wimps and posers.....LEAVE THE HALL!" :)))
GREAT reference Chris!!!
cheers, Carlo (Fates)
NP: OPETH "My Arms, Your Hearse"
-- "When you know that your time is close at hand maybe then you'll begin to understand Life down here is just a strange illusion."
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:02:58 EST From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Beatles/Zeppelin Message-ID: <907bad31.36f42922@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/18/99 11:56:46 AM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< For the end, name 1 album that can match even near to "Abbey Road" beauty??? </personal opinion> >> It's kind weird I was watching the Led Zeppelin Legends show on VH1 and when Zeppelin II came out it replaced Abbey Road in the #1 spot in the charts. Just an odd coincidence I thought I'd point out. Juli DTC: So far my husband and I have turned 9 people onto DT. They are complete DT addicts now!
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:26:02 EST From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Beatles and Jeff Beck can eat Jason Becker for a snack Message-ID: <fe5680bb.36f42e8a@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-03-20 07:44:45 EST, you write:
<< I remember when I was a huge Zep fan, and read an article where the dude was making comparitions between Beck and Page, and stated that Beck is better! I was quite angry ("Who the heck is this Beck punk? Nah, Page is god!") But from my present perspective I can admit that Beck was really better! Hmmm, yeah, I think he is even better than Jason Becker! :) WAY better! >> Huh? Was this a serious comment? Where did THAT comparison come from? Jeff Beck and Jason Becker? They are totally different players. What you meant to say was that you LIKE Jeff Beck even more than Jason Becker. And I REALLY don't get why you compare the Beatles to Jason Becker. Two TOTALLY different worlds. Hmm, I'm bewildered. I must be missing something. Oh well... - JK
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:44:15 EST From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: various il shiz/Seal Message-ID: <5e271c5f.36f432cf@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/19/99 2:13:51 PM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< First thing: Seal blows. Actually, the only song I've heard from him is the "Kiss from a Rose" on some soundtrack, so I guess I don't have much exposure and don't plan to force myself to. >>
Wow it must be great to have the ability to tell whether an artist is good or not by one song! Ok maybe you don't like his style and thats fine, but you might be able to appriciate just how good a songwriter Seal is if you would *force* yourself to listen to it. There is a big difference between like and appreciation. You may not like somthing but it doesn't mean its crap or that they suck as a musician. Yes, Seal's music is very layered and very much pop, but the way he constructs his songs is alot like Peter Gabriel. Great arrangements, lush vocal melodies and harmonies.All of his discs are different from the previous. He continues to grow as an artist and I have alot of respect for him because of it.
Juli
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:37:52 -0500 From: "Indii" <indii@twave.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Platypus IRC Message-ID: <00375700042591@twave.net>
Here's some info on the platypus IRC for next sunday.
Platypus IRC chat (News And Information/Platypus)
The Artist Shop will be hosting a Platypus IRC chat with Derek Sherinian and Rod Morgenstein on Sunday, March 28th, 1999. The chat will take place at 3pm eastern/12 noon pacific:
"Drummer Rod Morgenstein and keyboardist Derek Sherinian of the band Platypus will join us on Sunday, March 28 at 3pm eastern/12 noon pacific. Platypus has just released their debut album on Velvel records called When Pus Comes to Shove. Rod has an extensive background as one of the founding members of the extremely influential Dixie Dregs. He was also a part of Winger and more recently the Rudess Morgenstein Project. Derek's background is with Dream Theater. The other members of Platypus include John Myung, bassist and stick player for Dream Theater, and guitarist/vocalist Ty Tabor of King's X. Rod and Derek will be taking questions on their new band and what's in store for the future of Platypus. Full details on joining this chat are at <http://www.artist-shop.com/irc>"
Also, a review of the Platypus album by "Music Street Journal" has been added to the "Articles" section:
http://www.dreamtheater.net/platypus.htm
indii CP: Rachmaninoff Goes to the Movies
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:12:26 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Sigh... Message-ID: <199903210512.VAA12321@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Steffen Barabasch thus begged: > >Please, could we return to the main topic here? LTE2 is coming soon and you >are taking about Metallica sellouts and Queensryche faschists, that's far >off, isn't it? >
Veee ARE THE VEETSYJAM REICH!! YEE WEEEL SUBMIT TO US!!
Hitler's mom Wore Black.
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 02:04:23 -0500 From: "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: NDTC: Anyone interested in being interviewed? Message-ID: <00fd01be7369$0d647400$2ca51fd0@Customer.in-tech.net>
Hi, I need to do an interview on someone in the computer science field (professional). I have been unsuccessful in my attempts, and I was wondering if anyone is interested. It's for my English class. I need to know general info as well as info about writing in the field. If interested, please write me at preston@in-tech.net . I can send you the questions then. Thanks, Death Lord
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 02:11:42 -0500 From: "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Prism boot question (NDTC) Message-ID: <011401be736a$12f92cc0$2ca51fd0@Customer.in-tech.net>
Hey, does anyone know about the progress of the Prism bootleg orders that were supposed to be filled by the other guys from Bahr's masters? I haven't got a response from any of them. Has anyone received any yet? I e-mailed Bahr, and he said he had already sent out the masters a while now. Any info would be appreciated. Death Lord
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