YTSEJAM Digest 4772
Today's Topics:
1) Re: RAMdisk and only 12 minutes? No way.
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
2) Re: JPM guitars for sale
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
3) FESTIVAL HARD ROCK - France, Final line-up
by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
4) ths supergroups thing
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
5) Re: When Dream and Day unite songs on new tour...
by "Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= Husted" <theloneranger@cinemaschool.dk>
6) memory vs disk space
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
7) Dreyfuss
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
8) RJ/Watchtower
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
9) Re: Watchtower
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) Going down?
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
11) Re:7 octave range
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
12) Savatage please :)
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
13) Re: super groups and Haji's kitchen
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
14) Re: Savatage please :)
by Autumdrm75@aol.com
15) Mr. Holland's Opus
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
16) Re: RAMdisk and only 12 minutes? No way.
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
17) Literary Connections
by "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com>
18) Jordan Rudess Interview
by "N Brooks" <dreamgirl@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
19) Metal Sludge
by "Dreamgirl" <dreamgirl@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
20) Re: Celeb musicians...
by "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:35:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: RAMdisk and only 12 minutes? No way.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990326022827.18064B-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, TheCowGod wrote:
> 128 megs of ram would only hold about 12 minutes of audio, total. if
> you've got 6 tracks thats about 2 minutes each. 12 tracks, 1 minute. good
> idea, but you'd need a shitload of ram. moo.
That may be true, but in reality, if you were only recording one track at
a time, you could record it onto the RAMdisk and then when you were
finished, copy the completed track onto your hard drive, thus eliminating
the need for more RAMdisk space. That means you have 12 minutes of
recording time PER track, not total.
Or is there some reason that you'd need that kind of speed even AFTER
recording it? I figure that once you lay down the tracks themselves, and
you want to do post-production editing, you don't even NEED it. I've been
editing a CD for a show that my theater department is doing, and since i
don't need to actually record what I'm doing and just editing an
already-made wave file, I don't need the speed of the drive, just a good
amount of processor time and a good wave-file editor. Sound Forge works
just fine for me.
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http://cout.dhs.org/
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He stands before the window
His shadow slowly fading from the wall
And from an ivory tower hears her call
"Let the light surround you"
- Dream Theater "Surrounded"
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:53:58 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: JPM guitars for sale
Message-ID: <199903260753.JAA21803@xyz.estcard.ee>
On 25 Mar 99, at 11:32, one big monkey in ytsejam@ax.com's basement typed:
> From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
> You know, I have been coveting a JPM100 for a while now and I just can't
> justify spending over 1000 dollars for a guitar. It's robbery. No axe is
> worth that much. I can understand paying a bit of money for a guitar, but
You should move here, then. Will guarantee you a heart attack. A regular
Jap-made Ibanez RG costs a thou here (talking about US dollars), and you
can get a Jem for 3500. Now, if you still think YOU are being ripped off
(also considering the income wages here and there), you've been seriously
mislead.
:-) and :-( don't know which suits better.
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:58:20 -0000
From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: FESTIVAL HARD ROCK - France, Final line-up
Message-ID: <0d2e11101081a39CPIMSSMTPU07@email.msn.com>
OK guys,
everything is set and because Blind Guardian were unavailable, (Hansi has
suffered some damage to his hearing in an accident) there will be Dimmu
Borgir. Urrghh! I know there have plenty of fans here, but its really not
my
type of thing. Anyway, apart from that the line-up is great. Details of the
timetable will be available next week.
29th May at Evry (35km from Paris, in a NE direction(I think))
1) ANGRA
2) DIMMU BORGIR
3) GAMMA RAY
4) VANDEN PLAS
5) ROYAL HUNT
6) EDGUY
7) MISANTHROPE
8) FREEDOM CALL
Just a reminder that though this is a 'festival', it will take place
indoors, at
a venue with a capacity of 4000 only. I don't have details yet on tickets,
but if anyone is interested, please mail me and I send you the details
when I get them.
The festival at Strasbourg the same day (with Manowar, System of a
Down, Fear Factory etc), has been cancelled, because the same
bands want to play an OZZFest gig in the US.
Oh well, I'll probably be there regardless.
Charlie
URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:03:02 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
To: Nothing To Say <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: ths supergroups thing
Message-ID: <199903260802.KAA22114@xyz.estcard.ee>
I'd give about anything to see that group live:
Devin Townsend - vocals
Steve Vai - guitar
T. M. Stevens - bass
Terry Bozzio - drums
Wait a sec, it's been done before, hasn't it? Well... Why not again? :-)
Or maybe that group:
Tom Araya - vocals
David Hasselhoff - bass
Madeleine Albright - rhythm guitar
Vanilla Ice - lead guitar
Geoff Tate - air keyboards (wouldn't appear in the liner notes)
Jordan Knight - dancing
Luciano Pavarotti - Roland V-drums
That would be really ludicrous.
:-)
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:30:03 +0100
From: "Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= Husted" <theloneranger@cinemaschool.dk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: When Dream and Day unite songs on new tour...
Message-ID: <19990326082701.RXNU5436.fep1@[193.89.126.199]>
I would love to hear those songs on their new tour - but...:
I think - as someone mentioned - that playing those songs would be a step
down the ladder of development... (If you know what I mean)
I love the songs, but I gues it would be kinda like Smokie playing
"Nextdoor to Alice" - you just don't get anywhere.
I don't like Smokie - but chek out what the band is doing to themselves.
They just keep playing the same songs over-and-over.
DT - opposite of that - is capable of coming up with brilliant new songs
- and we should just appreciate that...
But still... - It would definately ROCK !!!
-- You've been had by: ------------------ =3D> - The Lone Ranger - Ren=E9 Husted------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:43:57 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: memory vs disk space Message-ID: <19990326084357.40841.qmail@hotmail.com>
ram is NOT and never will be hard drive space.. 128 megs of ram is FUCKING AWESOME.. well..i have 256 but that's cause i'm special :)
inferno NP: crumbsuckers - beast on my back
>128 megs of ram would only hold about 12 minutes of audio, total. if >you've got 6 tracks thats about 2 minutes each. 12 tracks, 1 minute. >good idea, but you'd need a shitload of ram. moo. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:35:55 +0700 From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Dreyfuss Message-ID: <36FB630A.E37B39B2@pacific.net.ph>
> Subject: Richard Dreyfuss on piano > > I was watching some movie once, I can't remember what it was called, but > > it was old, where Richard Dreyfuss was playing along with some ensemble
> That was most likely Mr. Holland's Opus (the movie that got me believing
Well, there was a really old movie with him and Amy Irving. I don't really know what the movie was called, but I think it could be "The Competition."
-R
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:50:59 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RJ/Watchtower Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3EC1@ms.kallback.com>
> I have found a > webpage for Jarzombek's new band, Spastic Ink....does anyone know of a > Watchtower homepage or has anyone even heard of this band? Petrucci > spoke VERY HIGHLY of Jarzombek as a guitarist, and because of that I > really wanna check him out. Watchtower has two cds I know of, Control and Resistance & Energetic Disassembly. ED was out of print for a while, but is available again from Laser's Edge and I'd assume elsewhere. They are very technical metal. That's all I know. Trevor
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 03:03:22 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Watchtower Message-ID: <199903261103.DAA23651@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Chris Calabrese thus begged: > >At the North Wales JP guitar clinic, Petrucci was talking about a sick >guitarist named Ron >Jarzombek, and mentioned his band, Watchtower. I have found limited >info about this band on the net other than a review at the BNR metal >pages and ordering info for their last CD at amazon.com. I have found a >webpage for Jarzombek's new band, Spastic Ink....does anyone know of a >Watchtower homepage or has anyone even heard of this band? Petrucci >spoke VERY HIGHLY of Jarzombek as a guitarist, and because of that I >really wanna check him out.
Watchtower was one of the pioneers of extreme-technical metal... Jarzombek is a freakin madman... he plays some seriously wicked odd time shit... There used to be a Spastic Ink webpage, but I can't find it anymore... you should be able to order Watchtower and Spastik Ink from LaserCD.
While the stuff is extremely technical, it can become over-bearingly annoying at times... another band in the super-technical vein is Seiges Even... they even followed the Watchtower formula on one album.
http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd for LaserCD
While we're at it... Spiral Architect is supposedly being released in September on Sensory which is Ken Golden's (LaserCD) own label. It's supposed to be the most technical metal ever released.
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 05:40:40 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Going down? Message-ID: <36FB7238.4C6C3B08@isd.net>
Jon Parmet wrote: >John Myung has figured out how to play a bass note below 1 Hz :) >Oscilloscope manufacturers go back to the drawing board and rethink the >law of physics...
Below 1 Hz? that's easy! We call it DC. (Direct Current) I can see John M. rewiring the Mesa so he can couple the plate supply to the speakers. He should be able to get out a 64th note before the voice coils vaporize. Hell, maybe he should play for The Who.
I'm sure Freud would have something to say about his "instrument" selection.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 05:54:02 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re:7 octave range Message-ID: <36FB755A.759858BC@isd.net>
Hey AyamiYuki! Have you been playing with that home lobotomy kit again?
Even if she could get her voice down to 50 Hz, (no way in hell) 7 octaves would equate to 6.4 KHz! I doubt a dolphin could get that high.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:22:18 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Savatage please :) Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3EC8@ms.kallback.com>
Hey all you out in burner land! I was wondering if one of yous would cdr me a copy of Savatage "Holding Back the Storm" for 5 blanks. Thanks, Trevor
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:31:10 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: super groups and Haji's kitchen Message-ID: <36FB7E0E.9BF544D8@isd.net>
SUPERGRUOUPS
Vocals: Ray Alder Guitar #1: John Petrucci Guitar #2: Jim Matheos Bass: Chris Squire Keyboards: Rick Wakeman Drums: Mark Zonder (Sorry Mike, with Squire in the mix, Mr. detail would be a better fit)
Can you imagine the foundation that Zonder & Squire could lay down? Add Wakeman & Matheos to give us the mood... while Petrucci & Alder take the drivers seat. What a mix!
Technically speaking, there are some better musicians in their class, but this combination would surely create some amazing music.
Shit! I just realized the entire nucleus of Fates is there. :)
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:04:23 EST From: Autumdrm75@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Savatage please :) Message-ID: <8cc57efc.36fb85d7@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/26/99 7:54:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, TrevorW@ms.kallback.com writes:
<< Hey all you out in burner land! I was wondering if one of yous would cdr me a copy of Savatage "Holding Back the Storm" for 5 blanks. Thanks, Trevor >>
Holding Back the Storm????? When did they put that out? Is that a boot CD????
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:21:07 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Mr. Holland's Opus Message-ID: <36FB89C3.DF37C9ED@isd.net>
Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: >That was most likely Mr. Holland's Opus (the movie that got me believing >that I was actually a movie scorer at heart as opposed to the music >teacher that I wanted to become). The very beginning of that just blew me >away. Dreyfuss MUST be a piano player, because not only was he on with >the orchestra's piano, he was in the right key (G major) and doing all the >right articulations/finessing. This movie is TRULY one of the best >music-based movies I have EVER seen, if not THE best.
Fantastic movie! I bought it as soon as it was available on videotape. What do you think about the chick that played Rowena (Jean Louisa Kelly) What a voice! She's not hard to look at either. :)
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:42:42 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: RAMdisk and only 12 minutes? No way. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990326083644.8171B-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> > Subject: Re: RAMdisk and only 12 minutes? No way. > > That may be true, but in reality, if you were only recording one track at > a time, you could record it onto the RAMdisk and then when you were > finished, copy the completed track onto your hard drive, thus eliminating > the need for more RAMdisk space. That means you have 12 minutes of > recording time PER track, not total.
that would work if you didn't want to listen to your other tracks while you recorded the new one, but i can tell you from experience that's not a very good way to record, hehe :) yeah, whether you're playing or recording a track the disk (or ramdrive) will need to be accessed. just playing back a 9-track cd-quality file on an EIDE 5400 rpm drive would be incredible strain and from what i've heard, probably just lock up and crash - it would have to read all 9 tracks simultaneously. that's something like 90 megs a minute. well yeah, i dont mean to talk like i'm an authority or anything, as i've never tried more than 3 tracks and that worked just fine. moo.
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:22:31 -0500 From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Literary Connections Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42CC4E4DA@PFC_EXCH01>
Greetings jammers!!!
Responding to Scott's comment: >But yes, I'm quite interested in other prog rock/metal band's connections to literature, not only from DT. i also enjoy a good literary work reinterpreted by skilled musicians. As far as recommendations, i can't even begin to make a list without putting Steve Harris at the top. i know, Iron Maiden doesn't exactly fall into the prog metal category (but, i refuse to use categories, anyway :-) ). But the list of works he has written influenced by classical sources is phenomenal!!! Granted, most of these songs are from historical influences, but at least one of his songs is derived from classical literature -- and it just happens to be my #1, all-time favorite song "The Rime Of The Ancient Mariner". That song, in particular, helped to push me over the edge of fandom of Rock-n-Roll; i saw just how intelligent the songs could be!
Which brings us to today's musical quote: "And now look what's happened to the state of the f**king Empire!"
Be good, y'all... CHRIS =========================================== A Moose once bit my sister... ===========================================
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:01:29 +0000 From: "N Brooks" <dreamgirl@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jordan Rudess Interview Message-ID: <199903260658005@dreamgirl.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:06:04 +0000 From: "Dreamgirl" <dreamgirl@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Metal Sludge Message-ID: <199903260702365@dreamgirl.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:03:05 -0500 From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Celeb musicians... Message-ID: <000b01be7799$c2db34c0$9a54b7d1@oemcomputer>
>An interesting note: If you've ever seen "In the Line of Fire" with Clint >Eastwood, there's a part where he's playing some jazz tune in a closed-up >bar. I was blown away when I saw this, because not only is he playing >what the recording was, it WAS him. They actually recorded his playing >and used it in the scene - it wasn't just some studio musician playing. >That brought my respect level or Mr. Eastwood up by about a third.
I know there are probably a shitload of them, but some of the better celebrity musicians that come to mind:
-Yes, Eastwood smokes on piano. -Nixon, believe it or not, did too. -Johnny Carson is supposedly a really good drummer. -Michael Moriarity (sp? - wasn't he a 'Law and Order' dude or something like that?) is supposedly a MONSTEROUS jazz pianist. Hmmm...anyone else?
Mike
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