YTSEJAM Digest 4779
Today's Topics:
1) Carpal Tunnel?
by "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@networktel.net>
2) DT on eMpTyV!!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
3) CTS (NDTC)
by "Harry D' Amour" <jaff@ath.forthnet.gr>
4) CTS, my poor wrists....
by "Jeremy Kube" <inflmmbl@tiac.net>
5) bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome
by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
6) Rudess Interview
by Yes0001@aol.com
7) Re: Jordan was in DT when?
by Chris <Chris.Livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
8) Carpel Tunnel
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
9) Re: king's x 'n' platypus
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
10) Platypus, King's X blah.blah...
by steve.arthur@twm.co.uk
11) new cds/Superior/King's X
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
12) Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome: Long thesis (sorry, was bored)
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl>
13) Wayne's World
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
14) RPM live MP3 (Over The Edge) at LITS
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
15) My supergroup
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:35:39 -0600
From: "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@networktel.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Carpal Tunnel?
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>Can someone say what is that Carpal Tunnel??? Some nus-effect of being
>computer freak?
Ahh...Car Pool Tunnel Syndrome....it's a horrible mental disorder which =
stems from the fear of being trapped in a tunnel with a car full of =
people you work with.
-Dr. Dave.
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:30:57 -0500
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT on eMpTyV!!!
Message-ID: <37016CC1.D5AAD15D@wezl.org>
So I was REALLY bored!!! Sue me!
I was watching the special on the new movie "Matrix" and right smack dab in the
middle of it when they're showing various special effects sequences...the kickass
crunch of John P. in ACoS...believe it or not! The movie does look kinda cool
though
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:19:44 +0300
From: "Harry D' Amour" <jaff@ath.forthnet.gr>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: CTS (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199903310121.EAA15857@forthnet.gr>
>>>Can someone say what is that Carpal Tunnel??? Some nus-effect of being
>>computer freak???
>Basically, what I know of the physical aspects of CTS is that there is a
>cavity in your wrist between your two wrist bones (shoot me, I can't
>remember the names, fibia and tibia?, I think those are the leg bones.
>bah). As more stress is detected in the wrists and hands fluids from God
>knows where flood that tunnel. When the work is done, the fluid recedes
but
>leaves something of a film behind. Eventually the film builds up into
this
>gunk that is just trapped there until eventually the swelling never goes
>away and they have to cut into you to clean the shit out. I might be
wrong,
>but that's the way it was explained to me.
Don't listen to any of this! The Carpal Tunnel is the tunnel that
penetrates the Carpathian mountains.....
Actually, the CTS is caused by the irritation of a nerve, the median nerve.
This happens when the coat of the wrist's tendons develops an inflammation,
gets swollen and puts pressure on the median nerve, in the limited space of
the carpal tunnel, between the two wrist bones (I don't know their english
names). The result is pain and other disorders caused by the pressure of
the nerve. The coat of the tendon (I think it's called serana or something)
sometimes gets swollen because of the repeated movement of the muscles that
move the fingers, as in typing.
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:15:47 -0500
From: "Jeremy Kube" <inflmmbl@tiac.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: CTS, my poor wrists....
Message-ID: <000801be7b1c$6526e0a0$94723dd1@inflmmbl.tiac.net>
Hey all,
I have CTS is my right hand. I had corrective surgery on my left hand
when I was 14. I have gone many years without doing the surgery on my
right hand. Right now it isn't bad, but at times... I can't even feel my
fingertips from numbness. I am a drummer, so I wear my corrective
wristbrace when I sleep, and if I am lucky, I have no effects on my hand.
Btw, my left hand is absolutely fine. No permanent effects besides the
correction of the carpal tunnel.
What exactly is CTS? Here is my definition.. .fucking pain and
numbness!! No, really.. Its a condition where the "tunnell" is constricted.
Meaning, essentially; that the muscles in the hand are too big or there is a
buildup of fluid in the tunnell. This constricts the blood flow to the
hand. I have the fluid buildup. In fact, when I had the surgery to correct
my left hand, I shot fluid about 4 feet in the air when I flexed up my arm.
It was really sick. The surgery is done in the doctor's office.
Recovery/rehab is about 4-6 months. I got all of my hand strength back in
about 6 weeks. I was on summer break from Jr. High school and was able to
work all day on strenghting my hand again. I am left handed (for writing
only) so I couldn't write well for several months. Well, I figured I'd
enlighten you. Later, J
Jeremy Kube
inflmmbl@tiac.net
kube@nh.ultranet.com
inflammabl@aol.com
"This Job would rule if it weren't for the f*$king customers!" Randall in
"Clerks"
"If I had breasts, I would never leave the house, ever." John Perreault
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:36 -0800
From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome
Message-ID: <199903310317.TAA10329@knight.axnet.net>
Carpal tunnel is caused, primarily, by repetitive movements
in the hands and wrists, affecting the carpal bones (the bones
on the top-side of your palm) and the gap between the carpals
where they meet your lower arm bones (radius and ulna...not
the tibia and fibula). The continuous stress caused by typing
actually weakens your carpals to the point that they develop
holes...the tunnels. These open spaces subsequently fill up
with fluids (mostly lymph) that vibrate when you continue
to use your hands in an unhealthy manner. This can cause
extreme pain in some and can only be relieved with acupuncture
(temporarily) or invasive surgery. If you feel twinges in your
hands or discomfort while typing, you may have an early form
of carpal tunnel (though sometimes it is simply muscle stiffness).
Have a hand specialist do an electromyelogram to be sure.
If anyone is interested, I can send you electromyelograms of
healthy/unhealthy carpals.
-Rahul Ananda-
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:29:39 EST
From: Yes0001@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Rudess Interview
Message-ID: <dd231ded.3701b2c3@aol.com>
Music Street Journal 15 is up. The new prog reviews for the month are Various
Artists Encores, Legends and Paradoxes (ELP Tribute album), Forever Einstein-
One Thing After Another and Simon Phillips-Another Lifetime. Yes` Keys to
Ascension is the prog flashback review. Robert Berry and Jordan Rudess are
both interviewed regarding Encores... and many other topics. Prog metal
reviews for this month are Stratovarius-Destiny, and as the flashback, Blue
Oyster Cult-Extraterrestial Live. Nonprog reviews are Black 47-Live in New
York and The Grateful Dead`s Reckoning is the flashback. There are two
entries for Indie Mania this month, Wooster Sang`s self titled album and Pam
Fleming`s Fearless Dreamer.
Also, be sure to notice the new look to the main page.
Check out the site at www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/
Thanks
Gary Hill
Music Street Journal
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:22:03 +0100
From: Chris <Chris.Livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Jordan was in DT when?
Message-ID: <3701DB2B.37108D0B@wolfson.co.uk>
> Jordan appeared for 1 live show before the Awake tour: September
> 9, 1994. Ryan Whitaker has the show and is selling it under the monicker
> "The Rudess Experiment" on Scarred Records (http://scarred.mit.edu)
>
> - mike.
aha. Coincidence or what. Last night I was looking through an old tape of stuff
taped from tv (I was particularly looking for the queensryche unplugged show) and
while fast forwarding through the tape I came across an mtv interview with James
and Mike. The interview was taken just before the foundations gig and they were
talking about Kevin Moore leaving and some other stuff, they then proceded to show
some clips of the show with Jordan on keys, which probably means that that there
is a semi-pro tape of the whole show kicking around somewhere in MTV's archives.
Anyway, if I can persuade a guy from work to make an mpg of it, I'll upload it
somewhere.
Cheers
Chris,
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 05:06:32 -0500
From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Carpel Tunnel
Message-ID: <199903310506_MC2-700D-A123@compuserve.com>
Didn't Keith Emmerson and Carl Palmer have CTS.
Can't figure out why the fat bloke didn't get it, he must have been
the lucky one :-)
Dave
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:09 -0800
From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: king's x 'n' platypus
Message-ID: <3521555D.F591EA71@stones.com>
:> BTW, I just picked Platypus last week. :(
:> It really isn'n what I've been expected from Derek & John.
:> It's Hard Rock rather than prog.
:
:Yeah...keep in mind it's got the guitarist from King's X. I bought X's
:compilation album which has 2 or 3 songs from each of their albums, and
:I felt exactly the same way. I thought they were gonna be all proggy,
:but no, they're hard rock, kind of blues-ish almost.
You mixed the terms here. Claiming someone is prog is like describing
icecream as sweet, while you have a kazillion flavours. I'll persume
you expected wacko timesigs, industrial guitar shredding, vocals
that try to wake up somone on Mars and lyrics that speak about something
divine. Yea, you probably expected progressive METAL. King's X has
always been described as hard rock progressive trio and that's the
name that suits them best if you really have to put labels on bottles.
:But, Ty Tabor can
:play pretty well, and the songs weren't bad once I adjusted. On the
:disc, there's a few live, prev. unreleased tracks, and the last one,
:called "Over My Head", is a rockin' tune. I often put it on repeat. I
:love that song! But it's the only one, on that disc anyway, that has
:that certain kickassedness. If they have any other songs like that one,
:someone please tell me!
Songs are actually excellent, do take some more adjusting :) But their
so called 'Greatest Hits' is hardly what it claims to be. Most of their
best work isn't included, songs like Fool You, Picture, The Train,
Mission.. and the list goes on and on. If you want to hear King's X at
their best get three albums: Ear Candy, Dogman and their latest
TapeHead.
Kickass songs like Over My Head? Most of their songs kick my ass, but
I'll persume you'r looking for tunes with heavy riffs and very stong
groove.
Get their latest album Tapehead. Songs like Fade and Groove Machine will
do the trick.
:Another platypus point: I think that Derek, without the influence of a
:whole band that plays prog, left to his own devices to play what he
:will, will probably shift back into the hard rock mode that he comes
:from. Now he might bring some proggy undertones or whatever with him,
:but I just assumed that he would not be playing the LitS type stuff
that
:he contributed to DT. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Regardless of many people that claimed that Platypus is whimpy, I think
it's very progressive, it's just something different (yeah, it's not as
weird as 'prog'-albums that come out lately). Spock's Beard is great
band and I think their stuff is pretty cool, but it's nowhere near the
genious of Platypus.
Matej *burp*
P.S.
Satruday night KX show was AWESOME. They indulged the crowd and played
Cigarettes and they obviously haven't played it in a loong time. They
let the crowd sing and they made funny faces, not remembering how that
tune really goes, what key is it in etc. It was hilarious. Anyone
interested in video of this show?
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:26:03 +0100
From: steve.arthur@twm.co.uk
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Platypus, King's X blah.blah...
Message-ID: <TFSGIQJM@twm.co.uk>
Dear chaps and chappessess,
Just a couple of points to brighten your day=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E
1=2E Has anyone noticed the anally retentive, but fun fact that on the track=20=
listing for Platypus CD on the rear liner they've mis-spelt the word UNKNOWN as=20=
UNKOWN in Rocks Balls Destination Unkown=2E=2E=2E=2E=2EWOW doesn't that make you=20=
drool=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E?? I'm only raising it as I'm in the UK but I order it via C=
DNOW so=20=
I got the US cover with the lighter coloured Platypus title text=2E (also got=20=
Poundhound cooooolll)
2=2E Jammers posting about EXPECTING King's X to be prog and thinking that their=20=
songs especially early ones don't rock=2E=2E=2E=2EWell let me tell you that back=20=
in=20=
1988/89 when I popped out and got the vinyl LP of Out of the Silent Planet I=20=
was floored by it's ingenuity and originality=2E=2E=2Ethat doesn't come along too=
=20=
often so to see them languishing with Metal Blade and all that entails (crap cd=20=
cover art=2Eetc) is sickening=2E
Lecture over=2E=2Eresume lurk mode=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E
PS The combination of King's X solo and DT member bands is keeping me amazingly=20=
satisified at the moment=2E=2E=2Enot sure if I'm ready for a new DT album (only=
=20=
kidding)
Steve (the duck billed jammer)
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:13:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
To: DT list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: new cds/Superior/King's X
Message-ID: <19990331151313.29214.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
Well since I had some credit at cdnow.com I bought a few cds:
Platypus-I like this cd. I really like Ty's voice in KX way more than Doug's.
This cd isn't big time metal but it is decent. I feel the memebers fit pretty
nicely together.
Gordian Knot-This cd is just nuts. If you want wild music get this. It is
very hard to describe.
Dio-Diamonds-What can you say except Dio rocks...
I downloaded the acoustic Superior mp3 from the Superior site. It didn't take
very long-about 25 minutes at 28.8. You gotta love unreleased high quality
mp3s...
Someone mentioned that Over My Head by KX was the best song. I digress. My
opinion is that song is my least favorite KX song. I guess it is because of
the boot cds and live show where they extend the song way longer than it
should ever be.
NP:-nada, but on the way in to work it was Iced Earth-Something Wicked...
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:31:28 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome: Long thesis (sorry, was bored)
Message-ID: <7726D320C83.AAB2923@Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net>
Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
>> It's like arthritis. You get it from using your hands and wrists on a
>> daily basis. Derek would probably qualify. :)
>
> It's a little more than arthritis. It can be excruciatingly painful.
> Some people are more susceptible than others to the adverse affects.
> Anyone can get it. It's caused by similar repetitive movements with
> your hands and wrists. Arthritis is generally experienced due to age,
> but one girl I knew at work had a severe case of CTS (a secretary, go
> figure) and she was only 22. Typing was a terrible venture for her.
I've had CTS since early last year, and it's HELL! It just plain
sucks when it takes ALL your strenght to type a simple sentence,
and it feels like your fingers are dead, and your arms are about
to fall off... Please do yourself a HUGE favour and try to avoid
this by getting an ergonomic keyboard/mouse and a gel wrist rest
(these are great!). Also, make sure you take lots of breaks when
you type a lot.
Mark Bredius
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:20:54 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Wayne's World
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809338@messaging>
> I'll have to agree with you on that one - RaChmaninoff could pretty much
rip
> anyone apart. I have a disc of him playing his own creations, and it is
> just FUCKING AMAZING. "The man can wail!" - anyone catch that reference?
> 10 points to the first correct contestant... <- waynes world 1 or 2?
I don't know which Wayne's World, either, but CLOSE ENOUGH... :)
David Dixon, MCP
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:25:47 -0500
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: RPM live MP3 (Over The Edge) at LITS
Message-ID: <4.1.19990331162519.00a61ee0@po7.mit.edu>
Hey everyone,
I posted an MP3 of the Rudess Morganstein Project
performing Over The Edge live at Berklee College
of Music in Boston, MA. The show was earlier today
and was a lot of fun! I hope to have more MP3s
from the show up on my site soon.
-Bogie
---------------------------------
Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand
http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:07:11 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: My supergroup
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809339@messaging>
Well, here's my NON-prog supergroup:
Vox, guitar: Ed Roland (Collective Soul)
Vox, guitar: David Gilmour
Bass: Michael Manring (Attention Deficit, etc.)
Keys: Kevin Moore
Drums: Mark Zonder
Metronome: Jeff Campitelli :)
I would pay good money to hear that - they'd come up with some awesome shit!
And my prog/metal supergroup:
Vox: Russell Allen
Guitar: Steve Vai
Bass: John Myung (no one ever gives him enough credit)
Keys: Derek Sherinian
Drums: Terry Bozzio
I'd like to see this mostly for the Vai/Sherinian aspect. I think those two
could some up with some WILD shit!
David Dixon, MCP
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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