YTSEJAM Digest 4845
Today's Topics:
1) JMP-1
by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
2) Re: MEDESKI, Martin, and Wood
by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
3) no DT..but STEVE VAI / DVD / chat
by vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
4) *Ozric Tentacles***.. no dt
by vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
5) how to tell between intervals
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
6) Re: Top 10 Favorite Albums of the 90's
by Diablo6491@aol.com
7) Intervalic mneumonic devices
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Re: Top 10 Favorite Albums of the 90's
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
9) Not again
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
10) Re: top 10 albums
by "Martin Sandberg" <martin_goose_s@hotmail.com>
11) Top 10/X/Ten lists.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
12) Weird dreams
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
13) Re:Blood rock
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
14) Scientists cats 'n dogs in band names
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
15) Re: Intervalic mneumonic devices
by Carlos Alfaro <prog@yunque.net>
16) Easy, killa!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
17) Some recommendations
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
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Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: JMP-1
Message-ID: <19990505021934.22601.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com>
anyone want to swap JMP-1 patches e-mail me
personally.
thanks
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Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:44:05 -0500
From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: MEDESKI, Martin, and Wood
Message-ID: <l03130300b3556e59d0b6@[128.83.190.101]>
> I do remember that the group name was three
>names, and I believe the last two names were Martin & Wood. I'm pretty
>sure the name of the CD was "Combustible" or something.
the album was "Combustication." I haven't heard it, but I've heard good
things about it. I have, however, heard them backing up John Scofield on
his album "A Go Go." it's a pretty cool, chill disc. They actually just
released "Cumbustication Remixed" or something like that, which might be
worth checking out.
Jim Shields
Guitar/Vocals Room 213
www.room213.com
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Spread before you is your soul / So Forever hold the dream within our hearts
Through Nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live.
Dream Theater "Learning to Live"
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:11:25 -0400
From: vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: no DT..but STEVE VAI / DVD / chat
Message-ID: <199905050413.AAA09806@smtp2.mindspring.com>
Hey,
Sorry Ytsejamers no DT.
Just FYI about the new STEVE VAI DVD. It rocks!! (although I wish he
would of put some stuff from
Fire Garden).
On the DVD you can switch from 2 camera angles (whenever you want). Kinda
like being your own
video director. Plus he has a commentary about the songs/music. Talks
about recording and playing
techniques. I give this a A++.
Also sometime check out the Steve VAI chat room at: www.trsgroup.com
(look in chat area,..goes right to his site)
see you all there.
Todd S
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:15:13 -0400
From: vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: *Ozric Tentacles***.. no dt
Message-ID: <199905050417.AAA27408@smtp2.mindspring.com>
OZRIC TENTACLES FANS***
I hear they are on tour in North America. This band is a MUST SEE to
believe. Excellent musicians.
I'm not sure where the tour dates are listed... just do a search on Yahoo
or other search engine to find
their web page.
take care,
Todd S
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:31:19 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: how to tell between intervals
Message-ID: <372FC997.9B5D38E@bigfoot.com>
>A while back someone told of some cool little tricks
>to distinguish between intervals? Can you please
>post that again.
That was me. Even though I am so far from being a musician that the
light from planet Musician takes 50 years to reach me(and mostly ends up
on the neighboring planet, Ptacek). I did play the clarinet for 9
years, and I learned the interval trick in a music theory class.
A third: pretty easy to hear. try listening to an iron maiden song for
examples a'plenty.
A fourth: first two notes of the wedding song, or the beginning of "I've
been working on the railroad".
fifth: herald trumpets. "His majesty has entered the room!
*Buh-Baaahhhhh!*"
sixth: my favorite...the second note in the NBC gong. The third note is
a four. Someone pointed out, in the coolest piece of trivia ever, that
the 1-6-4 is G-E-C, as in General Electric Corporation, which owns NBC.
Seventh: tough to point out. But it's the opening to "Somewhere over the
rainbow". the second note - the "wheeerrrrrrre".
octove: can actually be tough. I confuse it with the fifth a lot.
Once you get the hang of these, you're learning relative pitch, and then
you'll find your playing get easier, and your comprehension grow.
huh huh...grow.
OshKosh b'Josh
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 00:40:59 EDT
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Top 10 Favorite Albums of the 90's
Message-ID: <4bd9e1e8.246125db@aol.com>
Hmmm, this is a toughy:> Theres a TON of great albums . . . INCLUDING
Nirvana's Nevermind. I dont see why you people loathe grunge so much for.
Because the guitar work is simple? Because any simpleton who just learned can
pick up a guitar and play something like "Teen Spirit"? Shrug, it doesnt
really bother me to much, different tastes for different people:> I was just
interested in why people dont like Nirvana. Personaly, Nirvana DID NOT
destroy music, pop american culture and TERRIBLE radio play did. Oh yea,
80's hip hop didnt help much either;>
Top 10 of the 90's, no order cept DT:>
1. DReam Theater -Images and Words-
2. Dream Theater -Awake-
3. Savatage -Edge of Thorns-
4. Savatage -Handful of Rain-
5. Rage Against the Machine- Self Titled
6. God Lives Underwater -Empty-
7. Tool -Aenima-
8. MegaDeth -Rust in Peace-
9. Black Sabbath -Tyr-
10. Korn -Korn-
Runners up:> Yngiwe Malmsteen -Facing the Animal- ALL OTHER DREAM
THEATER AND SAVATAGE CD's FROM THE 90'S:> NIN - Broken- Nirvana -Nevermind-
A few MegaDeth albums . . . both Def Tones CD's . . . ummmm that should do
it:> OH yea, LTE:> and should I just scrath LTE 2 on this list?:> OH YEA, and
the new Sava CD and the new DT CD's coming out, those will prolly kick my ass
and yours:> How about APSoG -Fates Warning- , that Jim Maethos guy impresses
me:>
RaY
np: Masquerade "Mercy Me"
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:17:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Intervalic mneumonic devices
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990505011130.27922B-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Tue, 4 May 1999, Joshua Rasiel wrote:
> Seventh: tough to point out. But it's the opening to "Somewhere over the
> rainbow". the second note - the "wheeerrrrrrre".
Well, first of all, that's wrong. A major seventh (i.e. a C to the B
above it) would NOT be on the "where" but rather on the "o" part of
"over".
> octave: can actually be tough. I confuse it with the fifth a lot.
I find this one to be the EASIEST, actually. Just listen for the two
notes that sound like they're the same, just one's higher than the other.
Actually, a great example of an octave would be the "where" in "Somewhere
Over the Rainbow."
You also forgot all of the other intervals, the ones in-between what you
mentioned.
Minor second: The Jaws theme. Duh-dun. Duh-dun.
Minor third: This would be (ascending)... Uhh... "So Long, Farewell" from
The Sound of Music. "So long" would be a minor third. Descending, it
would be "Colonel Bogey" march. This was made famous by the movie "The
Bridge Over the River Kwai" - it's the one where they whistle it.
Tritone (Augmented fourth, Diminished fifth): "Maria" from West Side
Story. The "Ma" and the "ri" are the tritone. Or, you could just listen
to ANY track on West Side Story and here a tritone.
Minor sixth: Hmm. The only one I can think of off the top of my head
happens to be a descending interval, but you can easily reverse it. Think
the theme to Love Story, you know: "How do I begin to tell a story..."
Minor seventh: More West Side Story. "There's a place for us..." from the
song "Somewhere". The "There's" and "a" are the minor seventh.
Glad to be of service to you.
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a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
_Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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"No one wants to fuck with a crazy person. If
someone tries to mug you, The best thing you can
do is take out your money, and piss on it while
mumbling and ranting. Chances are, they'll get
scared and leave you alone. Of course, you'll
have to wash your money."
- Norman Calkin, on urban survival
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:47:54 -0400
From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Favorite Albums of the 90's
Message-ID: <000701be96ba$d2794940$32aa889e@guest3382>
I was just
> interested in why people dont like Nirvana. Personaly, Nirvana DID NOT
> destroy music, pop american culture and TERRIBLE radio play did. Oh
yea,
> 80's hip hop didnt help much either;>
I agree whole-heartedly with this. My roommate and I were having a
discussion tonight about Nirvana (after seeing Cobain on a new mag cover),
and how they had such a big influence on 90's music.
I was surprised to see them mentioned here in such a positive way, tho...
;)
Anyway, my top 10 (again, in no particular order):
1. Dream Theater - Images and Words
2. Dream Theater - Awake
3. Tool - Undertow
4. Oingo Boingo - Farewell (not that I wanted to see them go)
5. Insane Clown Posse - Riddlebox
6. Live - Secret Samaddhi
7. David Bowie - Outside
8. Insane Clown Posse - Great Milenko
9. Rage Against the Machine - (Self Titled)
10. Danny Elfman - The Nightmare Before Christmas (Sdtk.)
Runners up: All other DT, Elfman - Music for a Darkened Theater vols.
1+2, Tool - Aenima, Nirvana - Nevermind
Regards,
Josh Calkin:
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony
E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
ICQ: 22473371
AOL IM: Mortua
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Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 23:58:41 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Not again
Message-ID: <372FEC21.15C2B99E@ucla.edu>
> 1) Queensryche - Promised Land
> 2) King Crimson - Thrak
> 3) Dream Theater - Images and Words
> 4) Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth..............etc
Uhm, didn't we just get done fighting off Dr. Hotmail and his top XX
groups/albums/bands? Please don't clutter the jam with this stuff that
no one cares about but has seen a million times. If you feel the need
to answer, email ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu with your 10 most wankworthy
whatevers.
> A while back someone told of some cool little tricks
> to distinguish between intervals? Can you please
> post that again.
Yeah, easy one. Perfect pitch. ;)
~~Amanda
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:24:58 PDT
From: "Martin Sandberg" <martin_goose_s@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: top 10 albums
Message-ID: <19990505072458.8680.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I know, I know, no more stupid threads, but I was just wondering what
>you guys would say you're top 10 favorite albums of the 90's were, cuz
Just picking some great albums from the top of my head. in no particular
order.
1. Dream Theater - Images & words
2. Chroma Key - Dead air for radios
3. The 3rd & the mortal - Painting on glass
4. Shadow gallery - Tyranny
5. Explorers club - Age of impact
6. IQ - Subterrania
7. Shadowland - Mad as a hatter
8. Magellan - Test of wills
9. Flower kings - Retropolis
10. Queensryche - Promised land
Martin Sandberg
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:38:09 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: "Korgie's Angels" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Top 10/X/Ten lists.
Message-ID: <001701be96ca$3f3439a0$4d0d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>Uhm, didn't we just get done fighting off Dr. Hotmail and his top XX
>groups/albums/bands? Please don't clutter the jam with this stuff that
Oh, aye? Who am you to tell we what us could and can't post here? People
want see my top ten lists and I'm gone to post it my best 100 lists just to
piss on you! HAHAHAH!
Acually, I thought I'd post that before some dumbass newbie that didn't read
the Ytsejam FAQ did. :)
NEW PEOPLE (and some of us old dumbasses, too), TAKE NOTE!
Posting top ten lists are just a waste of bandwidth. If you're really
interested in seeing what people's top ten favorite blah blah are,
accumulate them through private mail, or, even better, set up a free
messageboard on one of those freebie sites like sitepowerup.com (I think
it's free anyway) or messagezone.com. It's a much better way of handling
these sorts of things and keeps the jam clutter-free and everyone who wants
to can post and view the results.
I thank you for your support.
-- KorgX3 whittles a duck decoy out of raw hamburger. NP: This nifty nature sound machine I got for my birthday.------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 02:58:23 -0500 From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Weird dreams Message-ID: <372FFA1F.58C2@auburn.net>
> Speaking of dreams, this happens to me every once and > awhile, and I wonder if any of the other musicians out > there have this dream. > > Is this a common dream?
That's has happened to me a few times, once resulting in a bastardization of my dream tune that I called "In Bright Light," but the weirdest musical dream I ever had was something different. I was browsing through the sheet music section at a music store, and I saw a guitar tab book for an album by the Bro Mags called "Best Wishes." This album never made it to CD, as far as I know, so of course there was no Cherry Lane-styled tab book made to accompany it.
Anyway, I really liked the tape at the time, so I looked at the tab for the first song. I looked and looked, trying to memorize it as best I could, as I hadn't been playing guitar very long at the time. In the middle of studying the book, I woke up. I frantically grabbed my guitar and started playing what I could remember from my dream. Sure enough, it was correct, and even in the proper key!
It shocked the hell out of me, to be sure.
Take care, Mark Peters - An AL jammer in Alabama
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 04:03:09 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re:Blood rock Message-ID: <3730094D.60B6301@isd.net>
BILL HUSTON wrote: >BTW, does anyone here remember the tune "DOA" by Blood rock? [Yup, Got it on vinyl.
Dude! Make an MP3 of that tune. <please> :-)
[Hey Al, Here's one for you, remember Dust?
I don't, care to enlighten me?
Thanks
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:09:01 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Scientists cats 'n dogs in band names Message-ID: <372FFC9D.D8691C2F@mol.com.mk>
Jessie: > The opening band will most likely be SCHRODINGER'S CAT, > however they have not been officially confirmed.
What the heck???? :) Does anyone knows the band "Pavlov's Dog"? It's older proggish band. The names are too similar. :) Any connection?
Folks, if you ever thought Geddy Lee sqeeky voice is irritating, or the singer of Budgie, that the singer of Pavlov's Dog will just kill you. I was listening their album and after 5 minutes I turned it off, I just couldn't stand that voice! But you gotta hear it yourself ... geez, I never thought a male can produce such a sound. -- CyberDuke
"Now that I know that I'm breaking to pieces I'll Pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone Crying for sympathy crocodile cry for the love of the crowd and the three cheers from everyone ..."
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:14:37 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <prog@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Intervalic mneumonic devices Message-ID: <3730362C.DA636EB7@yunque.net>
Could someone please email me these as applied to DT songs? I cant quite figure some of these "soundtrack" tunes.... Thanks
Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
> On Tue, 4 May 1999, Joshua Rasiel wrote: > > > Seventh: tough to point out. But it's the opening to "Somewhere over the > > rainbow". the second note - the "wheeerrrrrrre".
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:54:36 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytseGASM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Easy, killa! Message-ID: <37303F8C.F94@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
>> The likenesses are then each secured by the neck in nooses and raised up >> on the crane, with proper tethering of course, to a fatal height. >> >> Now don't you agree this is much better, JC? And much less violent than >> your reaction. No one gets hurt :) > > Normally I would say that i agree except for the fACT THAT IT WAS SARCASM > PEOPLE SARCASM
Mine wasn't thought, JC :)
I really would take a certain amount insane pleasure out of seeing the Spice Girls gobbling some adorable little NKOTB crank attempting to produce the ever so sacred mind-boggling multiple orgasm, only to have them released into free fall for their efforts. I'm also still not that gravity is a constant, so this also appeals to scientist in me as well.
> JESUS CHRIST!!! did i forget how to properly use it?
Nope, just how to properly detect it in my reply.
Want some more? :)
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:57:15 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Some recommendations Message-ID: <C75EB672C5CCD211A88300104B6A9EF024100B@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Here are a couple of recommendations of CDs that I have come across recently. NDTC, but until MP whets our collective whistle with some info on the new CD, this is better than bitching ..........
1) Regency. This is a not-well-known band out of the heart of the Champagne region of France. They play in the best of prog-metal style for my tastes !! They have two self-titled mini-CDs available but each has over 30 minutes of music (the first CD has 4 songs, the second one 3). It may not be easy to grab in the US, but for any Euro-jammers (esp the French ones), this is ABSOLUTE MUST BUY. I think that each one is 70 francs. Rating for the first one is 15/18 and the second (newer) one is 16/18. Really worth the extra effort to get !!If DT put this material out, you would not be disappointed.
By s-mail, you can reach them at:
Regency c/o Charles Monzat 122 Rue Laperouse 5110 Reims France
By fax:
+33-3-26-03-61-59
By e-mail, you can try the following (no guarantees):
2) Fish - Raingods with Zippos. I am in the "Fish" camp and not in the "Hogarth" camp (hello Rick !!!!!). But, after "Vigil", I though that Fish's solo stuff blew until "Sunsets on Empire" where he really returned to form. Well, for me, this one continues on the positive path. It starts a little slowly for me but ends quite well. If you like Fish, you should get this now. Rating 6/7.
And, Fish is great in concert. Supposedly, a North American tour this summer is planned. Even if you aren't familiar with him at all, this is a show worth seeing. (Paradise, 7/14/99 for those in Boston !!).
Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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