YTSEJAM Digest 4856
Today's Topics:
1) emotional moment
by "Robert A. Jurado, MPH" <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
2) Re: Emotional DT tunes, Manchester clinic
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
3) Dali's Dilemma today!
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4855
by YtseSryche@aol.com
5) Epigram's "Spam" (again)
by "fateswarm _" <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
6) Re: emotional moment
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
7) Off Topic
by "Marcos Ot?vio" <motavio@geocities.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4855
by Donnie Bowers <deviantgerbil@yahoo.com>
9) The Phantom Menace
by DTdownload@aol.com
10) amendation
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
11) protestation
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
12) idiosynchronization
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
13) Als advice
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
14) My DFN theory?!
by Adrian79@aol.com
15) The Phantom Menace (don't worry, no spoilers)
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
16) Re: Threshold - Clone
by "Jordan Orlowski" <jordania@hotmail.com>
17) Tone and EQ controls
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
18) Re: The Phantom Menace (don't worry, no spoilers)
by James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
19) Chroma Key
by Brien Denis O <n8742612@cc.wwu.edu>
20) 3D DT art
by "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk>
21) Re: Chroma Key
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:51:40 +0700
From: "Robert A. Jurado, MPH" <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: emotional moment
Message-ID: <3741FD0C.51049D35@pacific.net.ph>
Emotional DT moment/song, like you care...Ah well, here we go.
Everybody's doing it.
The bridge to Scarred with JP's shimmering chords and fantastic
lyrics. Then, there's the whole band building gradually to
James' hitting the high note on "...won't."
ACOS. LITS. LTL. Geez...maybe I should just say IAW, Awake,
ACOS, and FII...
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:01:47 -0400
From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Emotional DT tunes, Manchester clinic
Message-ID: <001501bea182$68556580$32aa889e@guest3382>
I'd have to say that the song which conveys the most emotion to me is
Space-Dye Vest. Not so much the lyrics, but the music is what does it to
me...turns on the waterworks...
On another topic, I'll be at the Manchester NH JP/MP clinic tomorrow, I'll
be wearing an Insane Clown Posse t-shirt and jeans like A. Coutermarsh,
but I have red hair, in case you should want to tell us apart. See you
there...
regards,
Josh Calkin:
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony
E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
ICQ: 22473371
AOL IM: Mortua
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:14:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Dali's Dilemma today!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9905181910550.11102-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Hi,
In case anyone forgot, today, Tuesday May 18, is the release day for
Dali's Dilemma "Manifesto For Futurism". You should go pick it up. No I'm
serious. You'll thank me for the reminder later. Go get it. GO GET IT!
Good. :)
Rick Audet
San Francisco
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:34:34 EDT
From: YtseSryche@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4855
Message-ID: <71d616e4.2473530a@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/18/99 5:54:52 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< Robert Sindermann wrote:
>"Scarred" always kills me, James' best work as far as emotional singing =
>goes, IMO. And the instrumental fade-out is probably my favorite DT song =
>section ever, how they keep building up the intensity, it's brilliant.
I second that! From the first time I heard that tune I was awestruck.
The fade-out (to me) is the perfect ending to a truly great song.
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I thought the same thing too when I first heard the song, but you won't
believe what happened when i got my first bootleg of the scarred on the cd
Darkest of Winters, James clearly forgets the words to the chorus!!!!! I
don't know if any of you have heard this, but it's kinda funny. Someone back
me up on this!!!
Anyone have Dali's Dilemma yet? I'm not gonna get it for a long time cause I
ordered it along with LTE2 from cdnow to get the 10 bucks off, so it won't be
here til middle of june so I wanna know what you guys think.Thanks! bye!
TonyC
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:34:28 GMT
From: "fateswarm _" <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Epigram's "Spam" (again)
Message-ID: <19990519003429.77455.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
>>I guess most people hate me here : (
>>- Michael Menegakis
>NAH!
>They just like to bitch about anything and everything
>dont sweat it
Hey, just tell me, how can you be sure how I feel about that? Dream Theater
is one of my favorite bands and it's really sad to me to see their fans get
mad at me because of a mistake I made. I just think this matter doesn't need
further discussion, the one that's bitching about anything is the one that
claims sth without proving it.
I hope not every ytsejammer feels like that about this matter,
- Michael Menegakis
ps. I admit the mistake of inviting ytsejam's address, not 'adding' it to
epigram.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:49:43 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: emotional moment
Message-ID: <001901bea199$decb82a0$5e0d84d0@korgx3>
I dunno. The ending to Carpe Diem always gets me. Just as it builds up to
the end and then James just simply says, "Goodbye." That part is my
favorite of all. Although John's solo in Scarred really gets me, too. And
Another World. I think ACoS is one of James' more emotive moments.
But that may just be me.
-- KorgX3 is aching for some Beef Stroganoff NP: Rush - Test For Echo------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:00:25 -0300 From: "Marcos Ot?vio" <motavio@geocities.com> To: "Ytsejam List" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Off Topic Message-ID: <000901bea19c$0ea643a0$546ad3c8@minhacas>
Sorry for this mail, but i need to know the price of a "DW 5002AH Delta Accelerator" drum pedal. Could anyone help me? Here in Brazil is very difficult to found this pedal. Thanks and sorry my English.
------------------------------------- Marcos Otávio Fernandes motavio@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/1749
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:09:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Donnie Bowers <deviantgerbil@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4855 Message-ID: <19990519030954.10708.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello fellow Jammers,
I have been receiving the YTSEJAM list for about six months, however, I have never replied to it. (with the exception of one failed effort) I am currently a soldier in the Army, stationed in Korea... Much like the states, most of the local Koreans have no idea who Dream Theater is... Much to my eternal dismay! What I was trying to figure out is one, will DT be touring anywhere near here after the tentative release of their new album, and two, has anyone ever been stationed here who may be able to give me an idea of where a soldier such as myself might be able to find some "good music"? The Post Exchange does not offer a wide variety of music. (they do have three copies of OIAL, suprisingly enough) Furthermore, I am trying to find some of those "hard to find" DT bootlegs, EP's, LP's, etc... I am one of the several Americans who does not have a credit card, so buying CD's over the internet usually proposes to be a problem... Any advice from anyone whom has ever bought anythingover the internet? It would be greatly appreciated... Last kick in the head, I missed the DT show in Wichita, KS... Did anyone see that show, and if so, how was it... I had tickets, but I was unable to attend do to an UNTIMELY field deployment... Noone would buy the tickets, so I pretty much took that one in the arse...
Full of curiosity (amongst ather things) The Reverend Forbidden Godflesh -But you can call me Donnie-
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:56:51 EDT From: DTdownload@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The Phantom Menace Message-ID: <26a4cfa9.24739e93@aol.com>
DARTH MAUL DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:14:27 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: amendation Message-ID: <19990519061427.84104.qmail@hotmail.com>
> I just got an advance copy of LTE 2 > One word : In..fucking...credible.
more like...if you liked the first one, you're gonna like this one too....and if you didn't like the first one....well, I still like it through two weeks, so let's see if it holds up
some verrrrrry nice stuff on there, though, biaxident with its passive /agressive groove, when the water breaks, with the baby crying somewhere between 12 and 13 minutes in, chewbacca (cashing on the SW hype?) with its homicidal psycho jungle cat subtlety (apologies to Watterson) (i think that's the dude who does cal and hob)
and no weird vocalizations a la chris and kevin, i was glad to not hear that repeated.....
New Tiles and new Dali's need no such "wait and see" caveats, those two bands have created albums ("presents of mind" and "manifesto for futurism", respectively) of which they should be very proud.
partha
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:25:20 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: protestation Message-ID: <19990519062520.1711.qmail@hotmail.com>
bruce, i sure as heck never saw itchy mention the borders/CK link, and your own was tugging at the corner of my mind when I remarked upon that same happy occasion.....but upon further review (checking with the folks on irc the night on my own discovery), none of them had noticed it either, so I figgered it was fair game......after all, that kind of event happens, oh, about never, so I think it bears repeating as often as necessary to get every last person on the jam to buy the disc.... wouldn't you agree? :)
partha
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:22:50 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: idiosynchronization Message-ID: <19990519062250.57010.qmail@hotmail.com>
that last, of course, was meant for individual eyes only.....sorry
psm
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:30:18 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Als advice Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F41CD@ms.kallback.com>
> Get busy and try this!!! Any feedback would be welcomed. What if I put my speakers from my Sony mini system on top of my entertainment center and sit on the couch, would that work? :)
> I just got an advance copy of LTE 2 You suck.
Trevor
>
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:25:40 EDT From: Adrian79@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: My DFN theory?! Message-ID: <3f18fa15.2473dd94@aol.com>
Having read an interview with Dave Meros in Bass Professor magazine and having heard all the positive comments on DFN I went to the record shop and bought myself DFN. F**ING COOL STUFF!!! Yet, one thing struck me... Why did Dave say that one piece on DFN was more than 20 minutes long?? After having heard through the CD the last three days with continuos repeat I have come up with following theory: Could it be that songs 8-14 actually are one song split into 7 pieces? What supports this theory: - Together these parts are 22:42 minutes long (more than 20) - Somehow these parts fit together (Healing colors..,My shoes) having similarities and using leitmotifs (sp).
By the way, is anyone going to be at the Spock's Beard concerts on 5.Aug in Krefeld and 14.Sept in Bochum? I'll be there for sure.
Well that was my comment for today.
Adrian
"Can there be anything more depressing than not getting a YtseJam digest for several days? You start to think that the rest of the world has died." -Someone
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:17:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The Phantom Menace (don't worry, no spoilers) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990519071449.22698B-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
If I catch ANYBODY else saying anything about what is in this movie, whether it be true OR false, before I get a chance to see it, I will start splitting some heads. 'Nuff said.
And to whomever it was that posted a rather revealing comment about the movie: If what you said is true, and you spoiled it for me, I swear, your mother will WEEP when she finds out what I have done to you.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ _Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "Never trust a spiritual leader who can't dance." - Mr. Miyagi -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:21:48 GMT From: "Jordan Orlowski" <jordania@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Threshold - Clone Message-ID: <19990519112148.81237.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys & Gals,
Jordan here. I'm kind of new to ytsejam but what I've seen looks pretty cool.
I saw the review here that said...
"Threshold is Prog Metal at its best, and with this release (Clone) I think they deserve the same attention as Dream Theater. This is one of the best Prog Metal releases for 1998. Highly recommended!"
..so I just had to write to endorse this!
You can now hear soundfiles from every song on Threshold's "Clone" CD at http://www.erotomania.org/threshold which is a very cool site.
Threshold supported DT a few years ago in Europe and it was truly a match made in heaven. I hope they'll perform together again soon!
love Jordan x
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:36:19 +0100 From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Tone and EQ controls Message-ID: <199905191142.MAA27704@mail1.derby.ac.uk>
> Get busy and try this!!! Any feedback would be welcomed. Okay, feedback:
> Ditch the tone controls and EQs unless you are one of the few that > have actually used a pink noise generator and spectrum analyzer to > EQ the room for flat response. If you're using an EQ, and have not > done this, you're not using it correctly and are probably doing more > harm than good. The bottom line: Tone controls and EQs are for > people that don't have the balls to do it right. Fix your room! Well, this is a bit unfair. Firstly, you can't say you're not using it correctly; at the end of the day, EQ on a sterio system is there to improve the sound the listener hears. So in using it for that purpose, you're using it correctly; albeit not perhaps in the manner that people with any detailed knowledge of EQ would. Second, there is NO WAY that you can suggest that you'd do more harm than good. I mean, that's just nonsense. If it sounds better to the listener, then that's good, right? Okay, so in an ideal world, we'd all be sound engineers and know exactly how to use everything in the way it was intended. But then, that would make my degree useless.
Si
------------------------------------------------------- "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives All this I cannot bear to witness many longer; Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?" -Cliff Burton
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:52:54 -0400 (EDT) From: James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: The Phantom Menace (don't worry, no spoilers) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990519095218.15626D-100000@typhoon.lightning.net>
> movie: If what you said is true, and you spoiled it for me, I swear, your > mother will WEEP when she finds out what I have done to you.
Actually, based on what the person posted, and the method used... She'll probably rejoice whne we're finished with him.
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Brien Denis O <n8742612@cc.wwu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Chroma Key Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.9905191118040.4444-100000@titan.cc.wwu.edu>
If you want to get people to hear about Chroma Key, just play it for your friends and anyone else who happens to be in listening range. I've gotten positive feedback from die-hard deadheads, hip-hop fans, and metalheads. So it seems the appeal of KM's work crosses typical classifications. Even my friend's girlfriend, who's not a fan of DT, likes Chroma Key enough to choose it from the hundreds of cds this guy owns. Just play it!
-D
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:14:19 +0200 From: "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk> To: "The Ytsejam Mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 3D DT art Message-ID: <000701bea22b$e93dfdc0$1dcd52c3@flskesteg>
Hi, there! I've made some 3D pictures containing the majesty symbol. Please take a look and tell me what you think! They're at http://hjem.get2net.dk/finn2/dtpics
That's just about it so
Take care now, bye-bye then.
'I didn't lose my mind/it was mine to give away' -Robbie Williams, No Regrets
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Brien Denis O <n8742612@cc.wwu.edu> Subject: Re: Chroma Key Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9905191543480.892-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> choose it from the hundreds of cds this guy owns. Just play it! Screw Nike. I like that slogan a lot better. "just play it"
- m.
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