YTSEJAM Digest 4858
Today's Topics:
1) Slowing down guitar tracks
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
2) Spock's Beard Grand Rapids show canceled
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
3) Dinner in Hells Kitchen
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
4) Dinner in Hells Kitchen
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
5) Smells like Hells Kitchen
by "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
6) RE: protestation
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
7) Spolied storys.
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
8) EVENT 5/21 Saugus MA
by MFishook@aol.com
9) iced earth/nevermore hollywwod
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
10) VooduValve
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
11) Speakers and such...
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4857
by "Cody" <yoder@home.com>
13) Re: Dali's Dilemma today!
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
14) Re:EQ and Tone and stuff
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
15) Ray Alder's "Engine" project...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
16) Re: Re: Dali's Dilemma today!
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
17) Ozric Tentacles in Atlanta
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:07 -0400
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: The flame Jam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Slowing down guitar tracks
Message-ID: <37442197.F5C1A879@frontierlogic.com>
Hey Folks,
I remember reading a post, sometime back. About a piece of software
that'll slow down a wav or mp3, without altering the pitch of the song.
Does anyone remember what that software was??? If so, can you email me?
Thanks,
-mojo
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:52:31 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: YTSEJAM - The Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Spock's Beard Grand Rapids show canceled
Message-ID: <374421AF.9FBB04E2@pacbell.net>
This message was posted to the Spock's Beard mailing list last night, by
Tiffany D'Virgilio:
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"Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that gig (Friday night) is
canceled. The club closed down. The guys are bummed, as they were hoping
for a good sized crowd being Friday and all. Sorry, Tiffany"
--
Lisa Marie "Jessie"
ytsegirl@pacbell.net
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:47:31 EDT
From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Dinner in Hells Kitchen
Message-ID: <19990520154807.1784.qmail@hotmail.com>
Niall Connaughton said
"some uneducated fool's last words to me: "what the hell does ytse jam
taste like?"
you should have told him "It tastes like shredded notation and was prepared
in Hells Kitchen!" ;>
Satisfied w/ my clever DT reference 8}
Outlander
Oh BTW...A HUGE THANK YOU to all of those who posted the happenings at the
clinic...im stuck right now without a car and cannot go anywhere....so your
reviews helped me to know what OFB is doing this week. Since i am only one
state away it really burned to miss this.
And thanx for the DT art Simon...the gold majesty symbol is the best!!
what program did you use to design those?
Dream Theater---The Greatest musical entity in the universe (even though
John Williams is out there jamming away in Jabbas lair ;>
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:50:19 EDT
From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Dinner in Hells Kitchen
Message-ID: <19990520155044.36583.qmail@hotmail.com>
Niall Connaughton said
"some uneducated fool's last words to me: "what the hell does ytse jam
taste like?"
you should have told him "It tastes like shredded notation and was prepared
in Hells Kitchen!" ;>
Satisfied w/ my clever DT reference 8}
Outlander
Oh BTW...A HUGE THANK YOU to all of those who posted the happenings at the
clinic...im stuck right now without a car and cannot go anywhere....so your
reviews helped me to know what OFB is doing this week. Since i am only one
state away it really burned to miss this.
And thanx for the DT art Simon...the gold majesty symbol is the best!!
what program did you use to design those?
Dream Theater---The Greatest musical entity in the universe (even though
John Williams is out there jamming away in Jabbas lair ;>
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:56:30 EDT
From: "J C" <outlander28@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Smells like Hells Kitchen
Message-ID: <19990520155631.84938.qmail@hotmail.com>
Niall Connaughton said
"some uneducated fool's last words to me: "what the hell does ytse jam
taste like?"
you should have told him "It tastes like shredded notation and was prepared
in Hells Kitchen!" ;>
Satisfied w/ my clever DT reference 8}
Outlander
Oh BTW...A HUGE THANK YOU to all of those who posted the happenings at the
clinic...im stuck right now without a car and cannot go anywhere....so your
reviews helped me to know what OFB is doing this week. Since i am only one
state away it really burned to miss this.
And thanx for the DT art Simon...the gold majesty symbol is the best!!
what program did you use to design those?
Dream Theater---The Greatest musical entity in the universe (even though
John Williams is out there jamming away in Jabbas lair ;>
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:01:51 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: protestation
Message-ID: <199905201605.SAA09533@quicknet.nl>
Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> bruce,
> i sure as heck never saw itchy mention the borders/CK link
I didn't post about this on the Ytsejam, but I mentioned it on
UACM (News/Former Members), the UACM newsletter (see sig), the
Chroma Key website and the Chroma Key announcements list (this
must be where Bruce read about it).
> so I think it bears repeating as often as necessary to get every
> last person on the jam to buy the disc.... wouldn't you agree? :)
And for those who already have "Dead Air For Radios", get your
hands on the Kevin Moore demos CD "This Is A Recording", which
will be out on May 26th! :-) He's already taking pre-orders.
This album contains 15 (remastered) demos, all the lyrics, and
will only be available online:
Btw... Derek Sherinian's "Planet X" rocks too! Be sure to pick
this one up on July 13th... It's amazing! :-)
Mark Bredius
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:23:23 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Spolied storys.
Message-ID: <1E9C7101F2D@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
> find out until afterwards whether or not it was spoiled for you, and the
> nature of a spoiled story is knowing the ending beforehand, and you
> don't, you have not been spoiled. period.
Not necessarily. It didn't spoil Titanic for me that I knew that the
thing sank. It didn't spoil 8mm for me that we knew that the girl was
dead. Y'know, it hardly spoils it for me to say that Obi-Wan lives,
does it? And since anyone at all interested in Star Wars knows how
the story ends anyway...
None-the-less, I agree. I don't want to know a damn thing about what
happens in Episode 1. And I've got a LONG time to wait yet.
Rule fucking Britannia, huh?
Si
-------------------------------------------------------
"When a man lies, he murders some part of the world
These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives
All this I cannot bear to witness many longer;
Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?"
-Cliff Burton
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:16:00 EDT
From: MFishook@aol.com
To: MFishook@aol.com
Subject: EVENT 5/21 Saugus MA
Message-ID: <9b790d6f.24759d50@aol.com>
Hey,
Just wanted to make sure everyone knows about the upcoming EVENT show at the
Rock Pile in Saugus MA (Rt. 1) on friday the 21st. Anybody going to the John
Petrucci/Mike Portnoy clinic tonight in Boston can get tickets from me there.
Matt Scurfield
EVENT
http://www.mysticfishook.com
Coming Up:
BIG BANG '99
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benefiting the Eric Carr Fund at St. Jude's Childrens Hospital
Sunday, July 18, 1999
Tuxedo Junction
2 Ives Street
Danbury, CT
(203) 748-2561
Sponsored by The Eastcoast Music Mall of Danbury, CT
Featuring:
Event,Ice Age,Enertia,Soundscape,Crucible,Division,X Factor X, AztecJade,
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Admission is $10 in advance, $12 day of show.
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Tickets can be purchased from:
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Phone: (203) 748-8854
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Or at the Eastcoast Music Mall
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Danbury, CT
(203) 748- 2799
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:12:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: iced earth/nevermore hollywwod
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990520111112.19595A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
three words:
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VH1 just played MAIDEN's 'Evil that men do' video
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uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:56:47
From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: VooduValve
Message-ID: LSUA.26861.45aef
For Neil and any guitar-interested jammers:
I've owned a VooduValve for 2 years now, and just love it. The tones are=
incredible, and the whole unit is just soooo clean sounding. However, yo=
u
mention that you love JP's tone, and I have to tell you, the VooduValve s=
eems
more geared toward Marshall tones, IMHO. But that's my preference of ton=
e, as
well, which is why I bought it. My only complaint about the unit is the =
user
interface is kind of tricky for going in and making your own sounds. Onc=
e you
get used to it, it's okay. You also mention that you have a solid state
amplifier, and I'm not sure if you mean guitar amplifier or a power ampli=
fier.
The optimal way to run a VooduValve is into a power amp. You can use it =
as a
pre-guitar amp effects unit, but it probably won't sound as good as it wo=
uld
the other way. Definitely test it with your set-up before buying...
ANother suggestion - The Flextone Line 6 amp series. These are very cool=
products, and you can get a great sounding complete amp setup (speakers a=
nd
footswitch) for about what you would pay for a VooduValve. While the Lin=
e 6 is
not as flexible as the VV, it is way simpler to use, and the tones are
awesome. Also, one of the amp models it simulates quite well is a Rectif=
ied
amp, which will get you close to JP's sound. Just remember, there's a re=
ason
why JP has all the equipment he does, and the only real way to get exactl=
y his
tone would be to have his setup, ampd, guitars, speakers, cables, etc. B=
ut
this can get you close, for an affordable price.
I think that's all. ANy questions, feel free to email me...
Paul=
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:39:06
From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Speakers and such...
Message-ID: LSUA.26861.464da
Hey Al,
pardon my ignorance, but your point seems to be that the best way to hear=
music
is in it's purest form, thru a flat system. Now, aren't most stereo syst=
ems
and speakers hyped anyway - so that what your hearing still may not be wh=
at the
engineers intended? Somebody else (sorry, don't remember) suggested the =
only
way to achieve this is to get some super high end flat response monitors,=
which
I agree with. But your stereo itself may also be hyped...
Arrrrggghhh!
But anyway, thanks for the speaker placement tips. They work.
Paul
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:41:46 -0700
From: "Cody" <yoder@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4857
Message-ID: <000801bea301$2ddcea60$6a9c0018@CX685809-A.cv1.sdca.home.com>
>But if he does die, can I guess how? I'm guessing he forgot he had a
>two-sided saber. whoops!
>
>josh
Dude!!! You spoiled it!!
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:10:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Dali's Dilemma today!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9905201708050.10323-100000@viking.cris.com>
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Trevin Wagner wrote:
> You will be very pleased!!
>
> My only comment--and maybe someone (not you Ptacek!!) knows...
> I was reading the liners this weekend and noticed there is no mastering
> credit anywhere. Was this really released w/o being mastered?? It seems
> most apparent when "Whispers" goes into "Ashen Days" that the recording was
> not given that finishing touch.
What "finishing touch" is it missing?
> Very disappointing if this was a concious
> decision by Magna Carta. But then, could it be oversight!
The album was mastered at Prarie Sun Studios, by the way.
Rick Audet
San Francisco
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:57:27 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re:EQ and Tone and stuff
Message-ID: <3744AF77.8D4472F6@isd.net>
Yours truly wrote:
> Ditch the tone controls and EQs unless you are one of the few that
> have actually used a pink noise generator and spectrum analyzer to
> EQ the room for flat response. If you're using an EQ, and have not
> done this, you're not using it correctly and are probably doing more
> harm than good. The bottom line: Tone controls and EQs are for
> people that don't have the balls to do it right. Fix your room!
Chris Ptacek wrote:
>[ I'm inclined to think that this is audiophile elitism hogwash. :) Al,
Your inclination is wrong. The distortion introduced through consumer
grade equalization components is MEASURABLE with instrumentation.
Cheap consumer grade EQs use piss poor, noisy Op-amps that alone can
butcher something as simple as a sine wave. Plus, in the interest of maximizing
profit, they habitually use electrolytic capacitors in the signal path. Electrolytic
caps are the most unstable, non-linear devices known to man when they are
used in audio applications. These sonic shortcomings ARE audible.
Anyone that argues with me on this topic could be characterized as
someone that simply doesn't want their religion tainted by fact.
>[you know your shit, and this can not be denied... but if I can improve the
>[sound to my own ears by toying with eq and stuff, ESPECIALLY considering I
>[have not the perfect $30,000 audio system, then where's the problem? You
>[may have to be a rocket scientist to get your stereo to outperform God and
>[to make toast and stuff... but anyone with ears can compare flat response
To paraphrase you, Chris: "You're being a dick."
NO you can't get great sound for $300.00. But to suggest it takes $30,000.00
to acquire something sonically pleasing is absurd. If throwing money to the wind
is your bag, you could spend 30 grand on JUST the CD player.
In reality, it takes about 10,000.00 to build a GOOD conservative "audiophile"
system with separate components of extraordinary quality. This would include CD, tuner
and cassette source components. The speakers alone would be responsible
for close to 50% of the total system cost. If your conviction and passion for music
is that strong, you can justify your investment. As far as YOU tweaking your EQ
to suit your taste: As a musician, you have a much better grasp on how things
should sound. Your adjustments may be more beneficial due to your trained ear.
The FACT still remains, you are compensating for equipment and room deficiencies,
and doing it with equipment manufactured by companies that ignore the concept
of maintaining signal purity.
Improper speaker placement and room acoustical properties have a great deal
of influence on the final presentation. Both of these conditions can be addressed
without a large monetary sacrifice. It's the lack of knowledge in these areas that
are plaguing the average listener, not the cost of admission.
>[and eq settings and decide on what he or she likes.
>[Think about your statement if applied to guitar amps. Tone is a matter
>[of taste, not necessarily a flat standard... or wouldn't you ditch your
Thank you for reinforcing my point. You, the guitar player, are the SOURCE;
That's how you, THE MUSICIAN, convey what you want the listener to hear.
It's the job of the recording engineer, the playback equipment, and the person
at the controls of the playback gear to see that the music is reproduced as
the ARTIST intended. Think of it like this: Some dude jumps up on stage and
starts tweaking your rack to suit his own taste. Not only would it piss you off,
but the listener has completely ignored the fact that that's how it's intended
to sound as expressed by the creator.
I remember my Godmother commenting on her old 1960's vintage Sears
console stereo. The thing was a pile of garbage and sounded like a glorified
Close-N-Play. It even had the dreaded nickel-taped-to-tonearm-syndrome.
Her exact words were: "Oh, it has beautiful sound." This statement clearly demonstrated
her lack of exposure to quality sound. therefore, she simply
doesn't know any better. Unfortunately, she's in the majority on this one...
>[speakers and amp for some high end studio monitors to get the EXACT sound of
>[the recording?
Exact is impossible. However... close is tangible.
>[- Chris
>[-Who just got the K&N air filter for his Avenger, more than a year after Al
>[told him what could be done to beef up his car
Well???? Does it pull harder and sound more authoritative?
BTW, what did that Avenger set you back? I'll bet more than 10 grand. :) :)
/Al sticks fork into Ptaceks steaming carcass. "Yup, he's done"
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:09:01 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>,
Subject: Ray Alder's "Engine" project...
Message-ID: <3744B22D.4BF4DB16@ivorygate.com>
Ray's solo album has been recorded and will begin the mastering process in
June, with a potential release date in September... Stay tuned to
http://www.ivorygate.com/fw for the latest news on this...
--
~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538>
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:18:56 -0400
From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Re: Dali's Dilemma today!
Message-ID: <199905201814394@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
I have to say this is an excellent disc. Magna Carta has found the prog metal band they've longed for. Enchant and Cairo aren't metal, not like DD. I also like the idea that each member writes lyrics much like DT does. Very nice. Best track initially is "Despite The Waves". If you don't have this CD, I cannot understand it!!! GET IT!
Rob
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:45:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Ozric Tentacles in Atlanta
Message-ID: <199905210445.AA28986@crl.crl.com>
I just received confirmation from the Variety Playhouse that Ozrics
have been booked there for July 13th. :)
Any Ytsejammers who might be coming into town for the show, lemme
know; I can probably make some crash space available.
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