YTSEJAM Digest 4874
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Iced Earth in Detroit
by Jax <jax@glol.net>
2) Houston jammer(Sort of)
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
3) HELP with my sound equipment!!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
4) Re: My equipment
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
5) Re: Houston Jammerz
by bplumb@pi-r-squared.com
6) Metal vids
by "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk>
7) Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
9) badass new singles
by Thurman Alexander <oenone@mindspring.com>
10) the lie video
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
11) gap dance chicks
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
12) Selling out? Whatever.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) Shirley You Jest
by MusicSnob@aol.com
14) G3
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
15) help a fellow guitarist!
by shams <shams@drik.net>
16) DT Videos
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
17) Re: gap dance chicks
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4871
by "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
19) Re: DT Videos
by Carlos Alfaro <prog@yunque.net>
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:34:29 -0400
From: Jax <jax@glol.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: Iced Earth in Detroit
Message-ID: <01BEAAA9.8894CA40.jax@glol.net>
Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> wrote:
>If any of ye jammers are going to the Saturday night Iced Earth show
>here in Detroit... look for me!
>I'll probably be wearing my Iced Earth tour shirt, and I'll be a late
>arrival (around 11:00).
>Iced Earth rules......... heh
Cool, Joe, so you were one of the dozens of guys there in IE shirts..wonder
which one was you! I was the redhead in the Power of Omens shirt, down
front headbanging with the best of em! What a great show! I got an
autograph and a hug/kiss on the cheek from James Rivera of Destiny's
End..that was cool :)
Jax, Lady of the Oracle
"..though life has scarred my heart, a piece of me still burns bright
inside.."
Power of Omens - Test of Wills
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:28:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Houston jammer(Sort of)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990530152702.13560A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Yo,
I live in New Orleans, but we are a musical wasteland(seriously), so I
would drive to Houston to see DT. Hell, a friend flew to Dallas a year ago
this weekend to see DT.
Kurt
******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~******
"I remember Now"
"Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy."
Airheads
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:51:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: HELP with my sound equipment!!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990530164613.4606A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
Since so many of you are audio and equipment buffs, I could use some help
with mine. Nobody give me any guff over what KINDS of equipment I own,
first of all because it was given to me as a gift and secondly, because I
like it and it's all I have.
Anyway, I'm using a Teac AG-V8060 Audio/Video Surround Receiver, which up
until now hasn't given me any problems whatsoever (I've had it since
Christmas). But now that I'm home from school, especially now more in the
heat (I think it might have something to do with it), whenever I try to
pull the volume up any high than 1.75 (I usually don't bring it any high
than 2 or else it hurts my ears) with both sets of speakers on, it goes
into "Protect" mode. I just tried moving it a little further away from my
computer monitor (the right side was right next to it), but overall, the
unit doesn't feel hot. When I was in school, though, it almost always had
a fan running near it - would it be a good idea to keep it by a window or
near my box fan so it could keep cool? Are there any other ideas as to
why it could be doing this? I just like to listen to my music at a more
than whisper level.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
_Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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"Friends are people who'll help you move. REAL
friends are people who'll help you move BODIES."
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: My equipment
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990530165427.4999A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
Actually, I guess I don't need help. Moving my receiver away from my
monitor helped, I guess - at least, it's not doing it anymore.
I guess the extra room helped with a breeze or something to keep it cool.
If there are any other ideas on how to keep my system running at optimal
efficiency, though, please don't hesitate to offer advice.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
_Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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"In the New Year, hold your right hand out
always in friendship, but never in want."
-- Irish toast
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:18:03 -0500
From: bplumb@pi-r-squared.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Houston Jammerz
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990530211803.012336d8@pi-r-squared.com>
A
>Right here, right now. I live in Houston. Actually,
>I live in Tomball, north of Houston. I literally live
>directly across the street from the city. In case you
>don't know, Tomball is mainly filled with a lot of
>dumb, shit-kicking hicks. Yes it's true. Hm, so far
>there's at least two Houston-jammers...
my original reply was private but I guess I'll go to the list so others can
know. Tomball eh? You're about ten minutes from me then, I live in the
Spring-Klein area when I'm not at school at UoH.
Palpatine
"Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage:
Somewhere in time
"Too bad! You were almost really evil!"
-Shishio, Rurouni Kenshin
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:07:27 +0200
From: "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Metal vids
Message-ID: <000c01beaae8$d60a81e0$1cc88e81@flskesteg>
Hi, there!
I, back here in Denmark, Europe, can't even get eMpTyV...anyways, I've seen
the music-vids that DT has on LIT and 5YIAL and I really, really, really
think that those kids (DT) ought to stick to making music and let Britney
Spears, Boyzone and other sell-out-pop-sh*t-people do the videos!
Take care now, bye-bye then
Simon Long Krogh
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:58:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990530185440.6844A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sun, 30 May 1999, Simon Long Krogh wrote:
> I really, really, really think that those kids (DT) ought to stick to
> making music and let Britney Spears, Boyzone and other sell-out-pop-
> sh*t-people do the videos!
This is the kind of statement that really bothers me. You think that just
because this kind of music "sells" that that makes the artist a sell-out?
Does it really matter whether they're writing and/or performing music that
appeals? I haven't seen much of her stuff, but in interviews and the
like, Britney Spears really seems to enjoy what she does and likes to make
the kind of music that she does. To me, this would say that she is NOT a
sell-out because she is doing what she loves. Do you really think that
you have to be a starving artist to have musical integrity? Music is
about doing what you love - not whether or not you make money at it. If
she makes money at it in the meantime, what's wrong with that?
Note that because I defend her, it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with
her style of music. I'm not a huge fan of mainstream music, but I'm not
as against it as some jammers are.
Be a little more open-minded, people.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.home.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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"No one wants to fuck with a crazy person. If
someone tries to mug you, The best thing you can
do is take out your money, and piss on it while
mumbling and ranting. Chances are, they'll get
scared and leave you alone. Of course, you'll
have to wash your money."
- Norman Calkin, on urban survival
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:35:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people
Message-ID: <19990530233530.14850.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com>
--- Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
wrote:
> This is the kind of statement that really bothers
> me. You think that just
> because this kind of music "sells" that that makes
> the artist a sell-out?
> Does it really matter whether they're writing and/or
> performing music that
> appeals? I haven't seen much of her stuff, but in
> interviews and the
> like, Britney Spears really seems to enjoy what she
> does and likes to make
> the kind of music that she does.
My gripe with that type of music isn't the people who
make it, it's the people who buy it. They mostly only
buy whatever is popular and never think about the fact
that most of it is inane shit. I like that Britney
Spears song that's on MTV all the time, but that's
probably the only one they play that I do like. The
stuff I listen to isn't totally mainstream, but it's
not totally "underground" either. I just have nothing
but resentment for those people who buy whatever MTV
tells them to buy.
===
*Trent
"I couldn't breathe, holdin' me down.
Hand on my face, pushed to the ground.
Enmity gauged, united by fear.
Forced to endure what I could not forgive."
* Eddie Vedder, a man amongst men
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:04:17 -0500
From: Thurman Alexander <oenone@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: badass new singles
Message-ID: <3751E011.C27CB131@mindspring.com>
Hey - has anyone heard Brittany Spears stunning follow up to her tribute
to domestic abuse? (Hit me baby one more time)
It's called "I'll suck your cock if you kill my step-dad"
Also - a surprisingly psychedelic departure by Ricky Martin entitled
"In-a-gadda-da-vida-loca"
Great stuff on adult pop-radio, you just have to look for it
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:47:39 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: the lie video
Message-ID: <3751EA3B.12AB7546@bigfoot.com>
I don't know. I think the Lie video is pretty good.
I think it gives the casual MTV viewer, who's never heard of DT, an
accurate idea of what the band and the music is about.
Plus, I really like when they cut to the tunnel. :)
I wouldn't buy it in a collection for it's own merit(as opposed to
buying it because it's a DT video), like I did for Tori and Radiohead
videos(not my favorite artists, but really good videos). But I certainly
wouldn't call it "bad", either. I like to pop it in now and then.
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:52:41 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: gap dance chicks
Message-ID: <3751EB69.9F70A131@bigfoot.com>
>P.S. That spikey-haired white chick shakin' her groove thang in that
video
>will be my future wife. The gods have spake it. ;)
I haven't seen this one. But I saw the go-go and the country ones, and I
think it's the same people in those. Does she have really close cut,
light brown hair? Mrowr!
josh
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:13:26 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Selling out? Whatever.
Message-ID: <001601beab0b$7dc672a0$470d84d0@korgx3>
>not totally "underground" either. I just have nothing
>but resentment for those people who buy whatever MTV
>tells them to buy.
Heh. My arguement is that you are likely a hypocritical bastard saying
stuff like that. I mean, I remember in Jr. High how I somehow acquired Bon
Jovi tapes and Def Leppard shirts and the like... It wasn't necessarily
because it was what my friends liked or because it was all there was at the
time. It was also because >I< liked it. Strange how I still have a hella
collection of BJ and DL stuff in my CD collection. Even further down the
road when I started listening to STP, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana, I still can't
and >won't< (even though alot of people will give me shit for it) say that I
don't like it. I can still pick out those old CD's and rock to them as much
as any Superior or Dream Theater album.
Now, to pin the blame on the people that buy the music is completely unfair.
Firstly, they actually >do< enjoy the music they buy and listen to, or they
wouldn't buy it in the first place. Secondly, what they listen to >is<
attributed to what they hear on the radio. Why? Because it is the most
accessible medium to pick up one new music. I'm sure the average 13 year
old kid doesn't hop on the 'net, go to Yahoo, and type in "Progressive
Metal." I'm sure 99% of the average 13 year old kids doesn't even know that
"progressive metal" is a musical form. But even given that 1% might know
about it, I wouldn't expect any of them to track it down and listen to it.
It's just so much easier to listen to the stuff on the radio that they like
so much anyway.
I've used my little bro as an example and I'll do it again. He's a full on
3rd Eye Blind, KoRn, Wallflowers, what have you listener. He's somehow been
caught up in the hell-spawned telepathic mainstream mindlink that cautions
him to avoid listening to things outside of radio songs or he'll be lost in
eternal damnation forever. Anyway, I dropped a Galactic Cowboys CD on his
desk one day and he freakin' loved it. He thought it was great and wondered
why he'd never heard of them before. That's when I told him about the
musical birds and the bees, blah, blah, blah.
I've said it before. Whatever you do, don't throw anyone on the floor, play
DT full blast, and give them noogies until they cry out (dishonestly) that
they like it. It only makes them hate it worse and then they spread the
word to all their friends to not listen to it. I think, actually, something
like that is what caused the "keyboards are shit" idea alot of teenage kids
have today. If you REALLY want to make an impact on the future of
mainstream music, you have to take it slow and don't be forceful. Support
your siblings with what they listen to. Try to get them to pick up an
instrument. (It gives them alot of respect for talented players). Support
your local high school bands and arts programs.
I think, more than anything, that's the thing I really want to see from
people. I could care less whether they love or despise the kind of music I
(we) listen to. But if they can admit respect (however grudgingly) about
the players, singer, what have you, I think that's the first step in getting
this kind of stuff devoured en mass. :)
Look at me, I'm spouting endlessly like the bog of eternal stench. :)
-- KorgX3 thinks Gustav Holst would agree.------------------------------
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:41:01 EDT From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Shirley You Jest Message-ID: <40b113e8.248350bd@aol.com>
I read on the Brave Radio mailer that Kevin Shirley is going to produce the new Iron Maiden disc. Say it ain't so...
NP: Edguy - Vain Glory Opera
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:44:10 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: G3 Message-ID: <375221AA.523E548D@mol.com.mk>
Did some surfin' around ... What ever happened with that Satch / Vai / K.W.Sheppard with guest Robert Fripp thing???
Also, after the Satch/Vai/Johnson G3 , I read in a guitar magazine about 2-nd G3 project, led by Satch, and this time Marty Friedman was supposed to be included and some other ... Didn't hear news on this one too. -- CyberDuke
"Now that I know that I'm breaking to pieces I'll Pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone Crying for sympathy crocodile cry for the love of the crowd and the three cheers from everyone ..."
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:13:55 +0600 From: shams <shams@drik.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: help a fellow guitarist! Message-ID: <375228A3.7C9C8DDA@drik.net>
Hi all jammers,
Can anyone shed some light on how to fix guitar intonations. the proceedings? I cannot find any book over in this part of the world on it at this time, my guitar has three types of tuning going along. I think it would be better if someone mailed me personally so that other fellow jammers won't be bothered with it.
Also, I don't know if it's only me, but on OiaLT, JPs solo seemed a little (should I dare say the word) sloppy. anyone else had this feeling???
-Minhaz
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:10:34 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT Videos Message-ID: <4.1.19990531020218.00ae6260@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>
Well, following along with the discussions about DT's videos, I understand there are about 4 of them they put out...what I'm wondering is, are any of them available...I've personally never seen them, and would very much like to have them...If they're in stores or something, i'll buy them, or if they're on the net somewhere, no matter what size(don't laugh, I know of a site that has every single Fiona Apple appearance and video ever...heh) I'd like to know where so i could download them. As for what the discussion has really been about, videos are out there for the majority of people who care little about musical content, they care about image...they might dig the beat, or the words, but few care about what's really going on in the music itself, so MTV and videos cater to that. It's a shame there aren't more videos of stuff i like out there, because it would be interesting to see what images the director would match with the music, but hell, i like to listen to my music anyway, not watch it...:)
np: Chroma Key "Dead Air for Radios"
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:25:30 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: gap dance chicks Message-ID: <199905310725.AAA14269@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Joshua Rasiel thus begged: > >>P.S. That spikey-haired white chick shakin' her groove thang in that >video >>will be my future wife. The gods have spake it. ;) > >I haven't seen this one. But I saw the go-go and the country ones, and I >think it's the same people in those. Does she have really close cut, >light brown hair? Mrowr! > >josh
gimme that redhead
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:45:53 PDT From: "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4871 Message-ID: <19990531074554.23947.qmail@hotmail.com>
2. Yes, it is true.....my side-project with Neal Morse is now back on! 'That's cool!' We are scheduled to enter the studio at the end of June for a week or so to hammer out some music. The project is untitled at the moment but consists of myself, Neal Morse (Spock's Beard), Pete Trewavas (Marillion) 'interessting' and Roine Stolt(the Flower Kings). 'YYYYABADABBADOOOOOOOOOO! PORTNOY, MEET THE PORTNOYS, THEIR THE MODERN DRUMMER FAMILY'. 'Stolt is the greatest, woth the voice of Rogers Waters and the lungs of Kevin James, he is an remarkeble singer. Ya all go out there and get the Flower Kings albums. In particular Welcome Back in the World of Adventure and the 1999 releas "Flower Power - A journey to hidden corners of your mind" or something, it took me forever to type on the SONY Minidisc, which after about 4 months broke down, just to get two topics in one mail.
I know the side-project thing has currently gotten out of hand, 'a-ha' but this one was waiting in the wings for me since last year and with Jordan now in DT, I do not want to do any further LTE albums...*sorrow*
JCB
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:24:34 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <prog@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DT Videos Message-ID: <37527172.AF4C586E@yunque.net>
Kevin Carmouche wrote:
> Well, following along with the discussions about DT's videos, I understand > there are about 4 of them they put out...what I'm wondering is, are any of > them available...I've personally never seen them, and would very much like > to have them...If they're in stores or something, i'll buy them,
I dont know where in the world you are ( if the vid's avaiability is scarce ) but if you buy Live in Tokyo, and the recent 5 years in a livetime ( or was it lifetime for the video) you will be able to see every DT video..plus some VERY awesome live performances.
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