YTSEJAM Digest 5203
Today's Topics:
1) James on the stage
by Martin <newmln@yahoo.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5197
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
3) Metallica S&M
by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
4) Re: DT mp3s
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
5) under the covers
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) Petrucci solo in Tokio
by Fernando Cacho <maacahef@bicc00.bi.ehu.es>
7) slappin on the upright
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
8) Re: Quit being a dick
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
9) Re: Too many web pages!!!
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
10) About Drummers, in response to Steve LaMonica...
by "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com>
11) HOME!!!
by shams <shams@drik.net>
12) Re: another bass-question
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
13) DT Group Dynamic
by "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5202
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
15) synth and multiple percussionists
by "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
16) European Tour Thoughts
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
17) Jordan / Latin
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
18) Just before I go...
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
19) AW: Just before I go...
by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
20) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
21) Re: Jordan / Latin
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
22) Re: LTE 'self-indulgence'
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
23) Re: Just before I go...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
24) RE: Just before I go...
by Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com>
25) Re: spell-check;
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
26) Re: Good/Crappy Drummers
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
27) is it guitar or synth?
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
28) Buckethead and slap bass
by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:39:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Martin <newmln@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: James on the stage
Message-ID: <19991122083954.14445.rocketmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com>
I really liked that mostly James stayed on the stage
when they played instrumentals and didn't go backstage
like the last time I saw DT. That's cool.
Martin
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:31:13 -0600
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5197
Message-ID: <3838FF51.1042AC05@earthlink.net>
> How can I get out of this list(which comes nearly every fucking hour).
That would be 0.4 Jeremies. I've nearly got this conversion stuff down.
Now if I could only find the correct constant for converting the density
of carpet fibers to a ratio comparable to the hair on his back....
Mark
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:52:02 +0100
From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Metallica S&M
Message-ID: <38390432.445@wxs.nl>
A review of the cool new symphonic Metallica album is up in the music
section of W3M3 at http://w3m3.fortysecond.net. Check it out!
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT mp3s Message-ID: <19991122094836.4276.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com>
--- Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Okay, I've finished uploading the mp3s. Go to > <<deleted>>. I've tested the > links > and they appear to work, but ya never know. If > there > are problems, let me know and I'll try to correct > them. Enjoy your mp3s. And sorry for the all the > e-mail I sent, but I felt it necessary to keep you > up > to date. Hm. Laterz.
Oh shit. This was meant to be a private e-mail to that dude that asked about DT mp3s. Sorry everyone!
===== *Trent
"There's colors on the street. Red, white & blue. People shuffeling their feet. People sleeping in their shoes. There's a warning sign on the road ahead. There's a lot of people thinking we'd be better off dead. Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them. So I try to forget them anyway I can." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:46:32 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: under the covers Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB50AE@ms.kallback.com>
> > Marc R: > > So when Prince/Symbol performs Nothing Compares 2 U, he's covering > Sinead? > Sounds weird doesn't it? I am actually going to go right out there and > say, > "yes." Why? Because ask anyone on the street about that new Prince song. > They'll all go, "oh, he's covering Sinead." One guy in 10 might know it's > really his song that he decided to record. Exactly. Just like when Michael Bolton sings "I Found Someone" (Cher) or "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" (Laura Branigan). Nobody but me knows (or cares, especially on this list) that he wrote the songs. On the other hand are his two covers cds where he mostly butchers Soul classics. I like his Opera one, though.
Trevor NP-David Lanz-Christmas Eve
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:40:41 +0100 (NFT) From: Fernando Cacho <maacahef@bicc00.bi.ehu.es> To: uacm@egroups.com Subject: Petrucci solo in Tokio Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.991122113238.21898B-100000@bicc00.bi.ehu.es>
First of all, excuse for my poor English. I'm Spanish and this is a bit difficult for me. I was the other day watching "Images & Words, Live in Tokio" video and I think that I heard the melody of The Beatles' song "Within you without you" on Petrucci's solo after "To live forever" (I think it's called "Barf Bag"). It's just my imagination or Petrucci plays a part of that song?. Can anybody give information about this. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:59:54 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: slappin on the upright Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB50AF@ms.kallback.com>
> Anyhow, during the show, Stanley took an extended SLAP > solo on the UPRIGHT. On the upright! Much amazement in the audience at > the show, trust me. Then apparently the audience has never seen a good rockabilly bassist. They do it all the time. (No dis to you or Stanley) :)
Trevor
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:18:39 +0100 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Quit being a dick Message-ID: <3839268F.292D3B71@home.se>
Al, first of all: Don't talk unless you can improve the silence.
"Al @ Switchcraft" wrote:
> If you're not going to help someone, shut the fuckup.
It's not my job to help him use the Internet, but if the he wouldn't have= been a bigger asshole than you seem to think I am; I might have gone out of my w= ay to help him. And also, don't tell me to shut the fuck up, because you know I won'= t :o)
> Or is that your thing? Do you just like to find someone's information > shortcomings and use that to your advantage in some feeble method of > boosting your own self esteem?
My self esteem couldn't possibly be any higher, hence it doesn't need a b= oost. I apologize for sending my reply to the list. Bygones...
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet [ http://sdts.cjb.net ] [ mailto:sdts@home.se ]
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:13:32 PST From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Too many web pages!!! Message-ID: <19991122121332.86618.qmail@hotmail.com>
I still contend that there are entirely too many junk web-pages out there. Their only purpose is to pad the ego of the maintainer. Many are of no use to anyone and should be deleted.
Now, if anyone could share information on how to avoid these pages when doing a search on the web, or search engines to avoid, I'm all ears (as I'm sure is the rest of the 'Jam).
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:52:08 EST From: "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: About Drummers, in response to Steve LaMonica... Message-ID: <19991122125208.46697.qmail@hotmail.com>
]From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
>I cannot believe someone is saying that Portnoy doesn't rank on the >best >drummers around. What kind of crack are you smoking??? The >best five >drummers around right now in my opinion is, from 5-1, Brain >(from >Primus....don't know his real name), The dude from Dave >Matthew's (I must >be getting old, because his name completely slipped >my mind), Mike >Portnoy, Mark Zonder and Neil Peart
Your credibility has been dashed against the wall! You are leaving out a lot of great drummers, like the two drummers that Athiest had playing for them... but let's not forget two well known drummers that I cannot believe you left out -- SEAN REINERT and DENNIS CHAMBERS. What were you thinking??! :)
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:07:39 +0600 From: shams <shams@drik.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: HOME!!! Message-ID: <3839401B.821F8E5D@drik.net>
Hi,
I thought the sitar stuff in Home was JP with a Choral Sitar<SP?>. It sounded more like the choral than any real sitar or any sampled thing.
Sitar is 'SE' means three and 'Tar' means string. just my 2cents
Shams
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:10:02 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: another bass-question Message-ID: <3839329A.ECC4624D@siol.net>
>Maaan, but I would try to play a fretless bass. That would be kewl. >
I also have a six string fretless and maaaaan :) As much as I love the sound (that brooooom.. awesome!), I hate the fact that I always have to look at my hands or slide up and down to get the pitch. Standard bass is way too convinient, all rookies, by all means start with fretted!
Matej
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:28:27 +1100 From: "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT Group Dynamic Message-ID: <001301bf34ed$76fabaa0$470f000a@rainerpa>
Anyone notice that there is a similar group dynamic between JP and MP and Hetfield and Ulrich (at least that's the impression I get). Obviously everyone contributes to the song but it seems to me that JP comes up with most of music (I may be wrong specially now with Jordan in the band where he seems to have found a creative equal) and MP seems to have a lot of input on arrangements and editing of ideas. From what I gather in Metallica Hetfield seems to be the creative one while Lars is in touch with the punters and kind of pulls him back in he gets too far out there. I'm probably totally wrong if so I'm sure you'll all tell me :)
Cheers,
Rainer
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:37:31 +1100 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5202 Message-ID: <3839471B.AD78AD93@alphalink.com.au>
> Okay, I've finished uploading the mp3s. Go to > ********. I've tested the links
Oops! Ignore that message ppls. Thanks heaps Trent and all the other ppl who mailed me. There's some great guys on the jam.
Anyways, I was just thinking about some of the posts, especially about TDoE. I personally don't find this song incredibly moving and lifefilled- but, hey, thats not what its about. If I want to listen to deep, meaningful, powerfully moving music I listen to Kashmir by Zep, or Disarm by the Pumpkins or Indifference by Pearl Jam. If I want to hear kick ass playing and something to get me going in the morning I listen to DT or LTE! I think Rudess is great. I think most would agree with me though that as the keyboardists have come and gone they have got more and more tasteless (ie. more prog). For example Kevin Moore's Chromakey is probably the only side project/off shoot of all the DT members that isnt an all out wankfest. Derek's playing was pretty tasteful, but that was maybe because of the style of FII - but then he goes on to record Planet X. And then Rudess- what can I say? Anyways, as I said, its still cool. Finally, I heard on the radio that Virgil Donati's band On the Virge would be touring Down Under. Is there a place I can find this info? Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:50:26 -0500 From: "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: synth and multiple percussionists Message-ID: <199911220545311@mremann6.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
]From: Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl> Subject: Re: To Stevie Z and the rest of the "Music Sucks" crew ;)
>Am I the only one that likes all three of [DT's keyboard players]??
I do as well. But I am biased, being a synth player and one that believes more in orchestration than individualization.
Subject: drumming
>if you're anywhere near Detroit, you need to try and catch a howling > diablos show....they get the whole band going on percussion >instruments, a six-drum showdown.....it ain't prog by a long shot, >but it's fun to watch......
The prog version of this would likely be Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. One guitarist, three keyboardists; all play percussion.
D/J
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:45:48 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: European Tour Thoughts Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34323AE8@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Here are some more thoughts on the European tour.
1) The overall sound. The sound at the shows that I was at (Zwolle, Brussels) was really decent and balanced. It was a minor miracle that Zwolle sounded as well as it did considering that the venue was constructed like an airport hanger. When the sound is great, DT sound so much better. But, I do agree that the keys are always lost in the mix for at least the beginning of the show and I cant understand this. Why do a sound check at all when this continues to happen ??
2) James and stage presence. As opposed to having James dart in, sing a few bars and then leave the stage for ten minutes, he is staying on stage with the band. The exception is the instrumental-based middle section of the show where he gets about a 20 minute break. I think that this is really a positive change. He seems more part of the band and more into the shows. And, he even seems to be enjoying himself more. I know that image is not music but I think that it enhances the impression of the performance.
3) Jordan's work. Phenomenal. I have never really been all that impressed with the solos that "others" have played as they seemed to be geared towards showing that the player has chops at the expense of being musical. But, I was actually interested in Jordan's work. Great on air-guitar as well. (Aren't all keyboard players merely guitar player wannabes who couldn't make the grade ??)
4) MP's vocals. After suffering through listening to MP attempt to sing over the last couple of years, he has really improved. I dont know how a drummer can hold a steady voice while banging away like a monster but he is doing it. However, I cant say that I am overly impressed with his choice of baseball teams. To win by having a convicted felon assemble the highest payroll in the league shouldn't count. Although I was impressed when the fatfuck (aka Roger) was able to struggle mightily to sneak his ERA under 5.00 by the end of the season ......
5) Tour t-shirts. Way cool.
Cheers, Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
"If there is life after death there is no death" - Evergrey.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:07:43 +0100 From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jordan / Latin Message-ID: <m11pu87-0003QhC@fwd13.btx.dtag.de>
]From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
>A bit has been said about Jordan Rudess. I just want to throw in my vote way >in favor of him. I like his playing. Like right now in the beginning of >Finally Free with that nice piano. But all over this album. [..] I like him a >lot. Nice solos, cool voices. I >think we all liked Kevin Moore a lot and I think Jordan is more in the Kevin >Moore style.
I couldn't agree more with what you said. I think Jordan brings in a lot more of a symphonic style. He uses a lot of 'real piano' sounds (like on FF or TSCO) and that gives the whole music a less aggressive and more musical touch (which is what I like about DT - it is Metal, yet it is music). And although that 'synth brass' section still sends shivers down my back, I think he is a great musician. He had 1 - repeat ONE - Keyboard in front of him at the concert and he got everything out of it, the solo was amazing. I saw Derek on 5YiaL and he 'needed' three.
>>I think, therefore, I am! > >Coito, ergo sum, eh?:)
Er- Zeus, what you probably mean is 'Cogito ergo sum', I don't know what you were thinking but don't mix 'Cogito' with 'Coitus' ;)
jam on
Alex
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:34:27 -0600 From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Just before I go... Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CC70@bham-xchg>
Guys,
I'm moving back to England this weekend, had a great time in the States but the job didn't work out the way it was supposed to...! So I will be unsubbing for a couple of months, but I will be back in the new year some time. Just a few comments to leave you with...
1. The instrumentals on SFAM (imho) kick arse and I love the Jordan fusion elements...!
2. Metallica did a poor job of Load and Reload (which, lets not forget was just the songs that didn't make the cut on Load). And I have yet to meet anyone who got into Metallica early who "loves" either album.
3. "The Ladder" by Yes is a great album, they are also kicking major butt on tour - so if you get a chance, go see them you will not be dissapointed.
4. What's the last thing a drummer says before being sacked...."Wanna try some of my songs...?".
(a lot) Later,
Dave (a UK jammer - not in Alabama for very much longer).
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:32:18 +0100 From: Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: AW: Just before I go... Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E4AC@FILESERVER2>
> 2. Metallica did a poor job of Load and Reload (which, lets not forget was > just the songs that didn't make the cut on Load). And I have yet to meet > anyone who got into Metallica early who "loves" either album.
Uhm ... I think there's something wrong with my Images And Words CD. The first song (Pull Me Under) just cuts off - where can I exchange it?
Mike PS: I agree with your SfaM comments, haha! :)
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:16:15 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <B45EC75E.4B74%marc@merespass.net>
>> to think that someone would love Awake and not this. But I'm a bit freaky. >> IMO, there are no bad Rush albums. I love the first Rush album. I guess I > > I didn't say I didn't >like< SFaM. It's just that some parts of the album > (after my 50th listen or so) have started to become ho-hum.
Another problem I have - it's easy for me to go off on a tangent.
> Particularly > the parts I mentioned. I'll flat out state that James' vocal parts > absolutely make the album for me.
I was thinking about this a few listens ago. James sounds *awesome* on this album. I think he sounds better than ever. I got WDADU then I forgot about DT and then picked up Awake. I was immediately struck by James' strong voice. I couldn't ever come up with a rebuttal for my friends' "sounds too 80s opera style rock singing." On SFaM, he just sounds really great. Very strong and clear.
[snip bits while collecting stones]
> (C'mon guys, if we don't fill the CD clear full, we're gonna get bitched at > on the 'jam). hehehe. I sadly think this is somewhat true.
I can't believe that. I think it's just DT's style. They just love to jam so that's what they write and that's what they record. It seems to be working for them.
> Look at Trial of Tears on FII. I totally love that song, > but why the hell is there an extended 5 minute instrumental jam in the > middle of it.
Maybe because that's what they wrote and that's what they wanted? I can't believe that they are doing it just to fill space. If *anything*, I would expect the opposite. I mean, extended solo sections do not a radio song make. In fact, I hate to say this but I don't see any of these tunes making the radio without some editing. It doesn't make sense to fill a song with an instrumental part unless that's what you want and you don't care what others think. And that's an attitude that I'm thankful for :)
> *thunk!* Not any more thanks to CL's Wave Studio! :) *doh*. > The midsection of Metropolis? *thunk!* *pwap!* ACK! *Korg gets pelted with > stones* *thump* *plup*
*toss* - *smack* heh heh heh
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:20:07 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Jordan / Latin Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911221019210.60991-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Alex Gajic wrote:
> >>I think, therefore, I am! > >Coito, ergo sum, eh?:) > > Er- Zeus, what you probably mean is 'Cogito ergo sum', I don't know > what you were thinking but don't mix 'Cogito' with 'Coitus' ;)
What d'ya mean? I knew exactly what he meant, although by his philosophy I don't exist. :)
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:23:08 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: LTE 'self-indulgence' Message-ID: <B45EC87A.4B75%marc@merespass.net>
> If the problem you > have w/ LTE is that it's mostly all technical flash > with little 'deep musical content', I think the improv > nature is to blame. Deep musical stuff (ACOS, Met1, > Learning to Live come to my mind) requires > composition, I don't think it can just be jammed.
What is "deep musical content?" Coltrane (to name just one of many) played some *shit*! To suggest that what he played was not "deep" would really be off base. And he was improvising. Improv is rarely 100% improvised. It's far more often an improvisation on a structure. Like improvised solos over a song. The song was composed but room was left for an improvised bit.
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:28:27 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Just before I go... Message-ID: <003f01bf3506$9e91e2a0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>3. "The Ladder" by Yes is a great album, they are also kicking major butt >tour - so if you get a chance, go see them you will not be dissapointed.
One of my friends mentioned Direct TV is showing one of their concerts from "The Ladder" tour soon. I think this coming weekend, in fact. I could be wrong though... Best of all, he said it's free, to boot. :) Can someone confirm the date and time? I'm interested in seeing this. :)
Cheers, -- Korgus McEcksthrey NP: Genesis - Calling All Stations
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:09:19 -0500 From: Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Just before I go... Message-ID: <FB6DDB4A76FED21181170090273C5FA8BEB7C3@atlmisech1.harbinger.com>
>One of my friends mentioned Direct TV is showing one of their concerts from "The Ladder" tour soon. I think this coming weekend, in fact. I could be wrong though... Best of all, he said it's free, to boot. :) Can someone confirm the date and time? I'm interested in seeing this. :)
Yeah, I saw the ad for it last night. They will be showing it multiple times from 11-25 through 11-28 (probably over and over on the same channel). The show is from the House of Blues Las Vegas, and, yes, it is FREE to DirecTV customers. Woohoo!
Shane Hunziker Harbinger Customer Support -------------------------------------- "You can find all you need in your mind If you take the time."--Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:24:52 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: spell-check; Message-ID: <19991122.092453.-518331.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
Well, if you look at the last phrase section in Home where Nicholas is talking he says "i can't keep away from it's clutch" in my opinion that is not meant to be "it is" rather its... am I wrong?
ytsejon
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:54:15 -0800 (PST) Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> writes: > > Someone mentioned that they thought there was a > grammatical error in the lyrics to Home. Something > about "it's". The only "it's" I found were "it's what > I long for" and "it's calling me...". In both of these > cases, "it's" is the contraction of "it is" and thus > should have the apostraphe (sp?) as printed. Was this > what you meant? > > And someone else called LTE 'self-indulgent', using > that to describe the instrumentals in SFAM. Might this > be due to the improv nature of LTE? If the problem you > have w/ LTE is that it's mostly all technical flash > with little 'deep musical content', I think the improv > nature is to blame. Deep musical stuff (ACOS, Met1, > Learning to Live come to my mind) requires > composition, I don't think it can just be jammed. > > I personally like the jam session feel of LTE. I like > all the solos. Myung is a great bassist, I wish he'd > show it off more. I recall him being complimented on > the Jam for being as reserved as he is. I respect > that, but when I listen to music, I want to hear how > good the musicians are. As musicians first, then as > composers. > > Just my 2 bits > -Dan > > ===== > "Let light surround you." > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:42:55 -0800 (PST) From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Good/Crappy Drummers Message-ID: <19991122174255.19141.rocketmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Alex Gajic <mams.gajic@t-online.de> wrote:
<insert all the meaningful things here...>
> Just my 2 Euros.
Guess it's centimes, or something...(in relation to cents in States...)
Just had to....sorry ;-)
===== Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:07:19 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: is it guitar or synth? Message-ID: <38398657.E29EF66E@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
I have a question regarding the 15 seconds of heaven found at:
New Millenium -> 1:22-1:37
I'm wondering if a particular sound is coming from the keyboard or is it John and his rack? The sound is this expanding envelope thing that sounds heavily processed and is most prominent from 1:25-1:26 and then again more prominently at 1:32-1:33. This is hard to describe as there seems to be a lot of layered things going on in there, so you really have to pay attention to isolate it. I just really dig how it sits on top of the sounds that are going on at the moment.... if ya know what I mean :)
It happens again to a lesser degree around 7:44 and 7:51 (interestingly both times here it is right after James says "feeling"), but it's even tougher to pick up there, 'cuz on top of the layers there's James' voice too.
Is that a keyboard sound? It's cool if it's Derek. I liked his shit, too. If it's John, this is just another place where his emotion is revealed in ways that aren't always apparent at first glance.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:10:41 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Buckethead and slap bass Message-ID: <199911221810.NAA09559@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>
I saw Primus in Philadelphia last weekend......I was utterly disturbed by Buckethead when I first walked in :) I thought he was really cool though, e specially the robot dance.....I'm a sucker for the robot dance....pretty decent guitarist too. Anyway, as for Primus....I kind of wish they would have played Tommy the Cat and John the Fisherman (two of my favorite Primus tunes) but it was a great show. Ok.........in terms of Myung and the slap bass controversey in One Last Time.....I have played bass for a few years now, and I don't think it is possible to get that kind of crisp slap/pull sound from just tapping or regular finger picking as many of you have suggested. I think it is just Myung letting his hair down and getting funky for once :) It's such a small slap piece, but it is executed perfectly.
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