YTSEJAM digest 5202

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Mon Nov 22 1999 - 03:40:55 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5202

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: Question for you computer guys (NDTC)
     by David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
      2) New Sounds
     by Compadre32@aol.com
      3) Re: Need suggestions
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
      4) Re: My Computer Problems
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
      5) Quit being a dick
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      6) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
      7) Re:Computer help
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      8) Re: musican jokes
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
      9) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
     10) RE: musican jokes
     by David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
     11) Re: Quit being a dick
     by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
     12) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
     13) Jordan
     by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
     14) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     15) The Ladder
     by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
     16) There I was, in the jungle, flailing...
     by MusicSnob@aol.com
     17) Re: Load/Reload Debate
     by Fett2002@aol.com
     18) Re: SFaM Instrumentals
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     19) Re: Abolute
     by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
     20) Re: *looks lost*
     by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
     21) Re: another bass-question
     by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
     22) DT mp3s
     by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
     23) Buckethead
     by Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
     24) spell-check; LTE 'self-indulgence'
     by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
     25) Steve Vai tour dates
     by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
     26) Re: DT mp3s
     by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
     27) Question for you computer guys (NDTC)
     by "Larry Odneal" <ldo1@prodigy.net>
     28) Munich gig
     by Martin <newmln@yahoo.com>

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:46:55 -0700
    From: David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Question for you computer guys (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117954@MESSAGING>

    > What possible reasons (BEYOND it's not plugged in and the RAM not being
    > seated properly) could there be for a computer not powering on when you
    > hit the button?

    Your computer may not do anything if the video card isn't seated properly
    (or, in your case, if it isn't in the machine at all). The two power cables
    from the power supply to the motherboard are a big deal (the black wires on
    both cables should be in the middle), but RAM isn't. You can at least see
    the BIOS screens without any RAM at all. Also, since you replaced the power
    supply yourself, you may have hooked up the power button on the case
    improperly. Check that, and if nothing else works, pray... :)

    David Dixon, MCP
    Internet Developer
    Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
    david@iisweb.com
    ytsedave@asu.edu

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:03:48 EST
    From: Compadre32@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: New Sounds
    Message-ID: <0.b300586a.2569b834@aol.com>

    New sounds = Groundbreaking

    Groundbreaking = Progressive Music - therefore,

    DT = Progressive Gods

    Just a little math for you people who are confused..... :)

    -Compadre-

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:09:25 -0500
    From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Need suggestions
    Message-ID: <B45DC7B8.4A69%marc@merespass.net>

    >> which PAt MEtheny's album to buy.
    >> Which one is the best for a new listener?
    >
    > Hmm... tough question... all of his stuff is so good...
    >
    > Here are some general considerations about each of my favorite Metheny
    > albums:

    Oh Bright Size Life. Definitely! :)

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:09:25 -0500
    From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: My Computer Problems
    Message-ID: <B45DC729.4A68%marc@merespass.net>

    [snip all the reasons that I buy computers instead of building them]

    > A moment of silence for all that data that has died.
    >
    > I hope there's some way for me to retrieve my data - at least the drive is
    > still under warranty. I can't believe that this is happening to me.

    There are data recovery services and I would be will to bet that they could
    get that data off for you. It's not cheap but they are out there. Now, if
    someone else will step in with a name.

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:22:23 -0600
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Quit being a dick
    Message-ID: <3838628F.29422350@isd.net>

    Andreas Skarin wrote:
    >To find what you're looking for on the Internet you have to know your way
    >around, and posses certain knowledge about search engines and other Internet
    >tools. You obviously lack that knowledge and you get frustrated because of it.

    >If you're too girly for the net, get a fucking tamagochi. Just don't write dumb
    >fucked e-mails to mailinglists about your inability to use the small portion of
    >your brain that seems to be working.

    Rather than be an asshole, wouldn't it be more productive to offer the man
    some useful information on using the advanced search options on most of
    the better search engines? If you're not going to help someone, shut the fuck
    up. Or is that your thing? Do you just like to find someone's information
    shortcomings and use that to your advantage in some feeble method of
    boosting your own self esteem? Those testosterone pills you're taking are
    doing more than just growing hair on your back...

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first.
    Everything in between is a matter of balance.
    

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:34:04 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <3838654C.60069A31@home.com>

    KorgX3R2D2 said: > I end up skipping BTL once the solo > section starts, same with Fatal Tragedy ofttimes.

    Yikes! Fatal Tragedy is my favorite song on the whole disc! :P

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:31:45 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re:Computer help Message-ID: <383864C1.D4582310@isd.net>

    NuGgeTMaN wrote: >Have you tried switching the P1 and P2 wires going from the power supply to >the motherboard? If you get those backwards, it usually causes it to do >nothing...also if your memory isn't all the way in the slot, that sometimes >causes the computer to not power up.

    He's using the ATX form factor. ATX uses a single power connector that can not be plugged in wrong. What you said was right on the money had he been using one of the older AT style boards.

    BTW, since his original post, his trouble has been located and remedied.

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first. Everything in between is a matter of balance.

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:33:09 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: musican jokes Message-ID: <B45DCED9.4A6B%marc@merespass.net>

    > Alright, I'm insulted by all these drummer jokes. How bout this guitarist > joke: > > Q: Why do guitarists stand on porches all the time? > > A: Because they don't know when to come in. > > I probably told that wrong. What do you expect, i'm just a drummer. =] >

    What do you call 3 guitarists at a jam session?

    It doesn't matter what you call them, they're not listening to you, anyway.

    :)

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:43:10 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <B45DD110.4A6D%marc@merespass.net>

    [snip] > Now as > for TDoE, I coulnd't agree more. I find that piece very boring and > uneccessary. It's not acting as an introductory or as closure or as anything, > it's just "there."

    What's wrong with just being there? If it didn't have a different title but was the end of the previous song, it would just an instrumental section. It doesn't have to be an intro or an ending. I think the album flows really nicely from Home into TDoE. TDoE flows right into One Last Time. It's a sort of bridge section. A non-vocal part. I can't help thinking of concept albums in an "rock opera" (for lack of a better term) sense. Picture this being played out on stage. This would a dance - I guess, based on the title :). Or maybe not a dance. If it's a movie, then this is one of those sections where stuff is happening and there's music but no dialog.

    Ooops, they just ran into some old time saloon :\. Wait, back outside in the alley - obviously running from something. This bass solo must be a fight scene where the bass player kicks some ass :).

    [snip]

    > I don't care for > both Ytse jam and Erotomania either, and I'm sure i'll get flamed for that

    Ack! Erotomania is one of my favorites! I love it. Ytse Jam is way more of a shred fest :). I love it too but Erotomania I like more.

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:45:50 -0700 From: David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: musican jokes Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117955@MESSAGING>

    > Alright, I'm insulted by all these drummer jokes. How bout this guitarist > joke:

    My favorite guitarist jokes have always been:

    Q: How do you shut a guitarist up?

    A: Put some sheet music in front of him.

    and:

    Q: How do you shut a guitarist up?

    A: Give him a bass.

    David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:02:47 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Quit being a dick Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991121220247.0161d8e0@pi-r-squared.com>

    >>If you're too girly for the net, get a fucking tamagochi. Just don't write dumb >>fucked e-mails to mailinglists about your inability to use the small portion of >>your brain that seems to be working. > >Rather than be an asshole, wouldn't it be more productive to offer the man >some useful information on using the advanced search options on most of >the better search engines? If you're not going to help someone, shut the fuck >up. Or is that your thing? Do you just like to find someone's information >shortcomings and use that to your advantage in some feeble method of >boosting your own self esteem? Those testosterone pills you're taking are >doing more than just growing hair on your back...

    I think he responded so strongly because the post he was responding to was so strong in the first place. Maybe it's a bit of eye for an eye... *shrug* That wouldn't make it right, but I think it would erode the suggestion that he posted that just for kicks. Just my two buckazoids.

    Palpatine Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:53:40 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <B45DD3C0.4A6E%marc@merespass.net>

    > Well, I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring, even though it's apparently > non-Kosher here. :) I think TDoE is a technical wonder. I can listen >at< > it time and again and go, "How the hell do they do that shit?" But when I > listen >to< it, it seems dull, lifeless, and self-indulgent, like alot of > the LTE stuff. I mean, there's no point to it.

    I haven't heard the LTE stuff but I imagine it's sort of meant to be self-indulgent. I doubt anything anyone does is supposed to be dull and lifeless though.

    I really love SFaM. I find it all great. OK, I tend to skip Regression because I get quickly annoyed listening to 30 seconds of the shrink - I want to hear some music. But the whole album is really great. I certainly don't find it dull and lifeless. I'd love to get some more detailed info about how it's dull and lifeless but it's probably just a personal opinion thing that can't be expressed. I find it powerful and full of energy - certainly not lifeless. I never listen to music in a simply technical way ("at" it). It has to be good or why listen to it? It's just a study if it's purely technical and this album is far from an etude!

    I think SFaM has plenty of technical parts that really shred but they also groove. The music all feels great. I love it :). I don't know. It's baffling to think that someone would love Awake and not this. But I'm a bit freaky. IMO, there are no bad Rush albums. I love the first Rush album. I guess I get that way. I love WDADU too. SFaM is just what I would expect from DT and it's awesome.

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:57:03 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jordan Message-ID: <B45DD4DD.4A6F%marc@merespass.net>

    A bit has been said about Jordan Rudess. I just want to throw in my vote way in favor of him. I like his playing. Like right now in the beginning of Finally Free with that nice piano. But all over this album. Although I liked Derek's playing (still trying to get the scoop on his departure), I found him too, I don't know, organ-ish. I guess I felt that his style was more metal/Hammond Organ than a style that is more like DT. Whatever, he was a good player and so is Jordan. I like him a lot. Nice solos, cool voices. I think we all liked Kevin Moore a lot and I think Jordan is more in the Kevin Moore style.

    --Marc R

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911211704150.95536-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Marc Respass wrote:

    > What's wrong with just being there? If it didn't have a different > title but was the end of the previous song, it would just an > instrumental section. It doesn't have to be an intro or an ending. I > think the album flows really nicely from Home into TDoE. TDoE flows > right into One Last Time. It's a sort of bridge section. A non-vocal > part. I can't help thinking of concept albums in an "rock opera" (for > lack of a better term) sense. Picture this being played out on stage. > This would a dance - I guess, based on the title :). Or maybe not a > dance. If it's a movie, then this is one of those sections where stuff > is happening and there's music but no dialog.

    Actually, I view The Dance of Eternity as kind of an Entr'acte in a rock opera - it's an indtroductory piece for the second act by the orchestra. The only problem with this view is that Home is right in front of it - but it could be viewed as an introduction to the second act as well, since the REAL second half takes place in the present, when Nicholas is saying "This doesn't make any sense, this tragic ending." The first half is when Nicholas finds out about the murder, and the second half of the opera is when he tries to find out WHY it happened.

    Seems like a pretty logical explanation to me.

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:21:05 -0700 (MST) From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Ladder Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991121151303.22206A-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu>

    A few people had asked about the new Yes album, so....

    I like it. A lot. It's difficult to find a place for this album in terms of Yes' long evolving history, but I'd say it feels closest to maybe Tormato, though I certainly prefer The Ladder to Tormato, for what it's worth. That is, it doesn't have epic extended pieces like Close to the Edge or Relayer, but it also isn't as pop-oriented as Rabin-era stuff. Certainly, it's got Jon Anderson on it, so a couple of songs have his I-love-the-world happy joy feel to them... you'll never lose that, I think. But the album has a VERY fresh, high-energy feel to it that I thought was utterly lacking on Open Your Eyes and, to some extent, Talk. The harmonies are lush, Howe's sound is as distinct as ever, and Squire stnads forward in the mix with more aggressive basslines than we've seen in recent years. In that respect, the music is quite reminiscent of the classic material from the early to mid-70s.

    --mt

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:13:33 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: There I was, in the jungle, flailing... Message-ID: <0.deac2a53.2569d69d@aol.com>

    Steve Z opined: >...(I)t totally DOES matter what fits and what doesn't fit in a song. >That's the difference between a concise artistic statement and just >flailing wildly.

    Hmm, but what happens if flailing wildly *is* the artistic statement? If going on an extended flail-a-thon is the point, it would be counterproductive to make such a section, as you put it, concise. With prog and its bastard son prog metal, it would seem that the adjective "concise" is one to be avoided like a copy of a mythical "Roseanne sings Pavarotti" disc...

    NW: The fantasy football destruction of Pat D. ;-)

    Kevin

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:09:31 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Load/Reload Debate Message-ID: <0.cc0c51e3.2569e3bb@aol.com>

    Fett2002@aol.com wrote:

    >> Well, it IS Metallica.They can make the kind of music they want to make= > Why >> does a band have to be confined to what theirs fans (or anyone else for= that >> matter) percieve what they are..............

    >Look here Fett, I used to worship Metallica before they turned into women= >The >only Metallica albums I own are RTL, MOP and AJFA. They are classics and= > also >extremely good. However, I don't like the music they currently play. That= >'s all >I'm saying. End of story. End of thread (for me anyway).

    >This discussion is older than Cher, and someone should put it to rest.

    >Andreas Skarin

    Andreas, That's all ya had to say! I voiced my opinion on those albums and YOU were the one that responded to MY original comments. All you had to say from the start was that you didn't like those albums. That's fine by me.The comment about them turning into women is odd though. That's not a very constructive argument even for thirdgraders. I personally don't listen to a band because of their looks, but that's another argument. End of story here too. Have a nice day. -Mike

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:27:01 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM Instrumentals Message-ID: <002101bf3480$69d22060$710d84d0@safelink.net>

    > to think that someone would love Awake and not this. But I'm a bit freaky. > IMO, there are no bad Rush albums. I love the first Rush album. I guess I

    I didn't say I didn't >like< SFaM. It's just that some parts of the album (after my 50th listen or so) have started to become ho-hum. Particularly the parts I mentioned. I'll flat out state that James' vocal parts absolutely make the album for me. The instrumental parts in between are only a lingering wait between James' next part. Alot of DT's instrumental shit really rocks, don't get me wrong. I love Hell's Kitchen, Ytsejam, Erotomania, Eve, et al, but all of those songs had a cohesiveness to them that I don't think is matched as well on SFaM. To me, they ended up throwing too many pointless sections and unabbreviated riffs for the sake of adding filler to the album. (C'mon guys, if we don't fill the CD clear full, we're gonna get bitched at on the 'jam). hehehe. I sadly think this is somewhat true. Look at Trial of Tears on FII. I totally love that song, but why the hell is there an extended 5 minute instrumental jam in the middle of it. *thunk!* Not any more thanks to CL's Wave Studio! :) *doh*. The midsection of Metropolis? *thunk!* *pwap!* ACK! *Korg gets pelted with stones* *thump* *plup* -- KorgX3 grabs his stainless steel umbrella.

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:11:19 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Abolute Message-ID: <199911220211190330.002442CA@post.hem.hu>

    Hi Ivan,

    >I think, therefore, I am!

    Coito, ergo sum, eh?:)

    Bye

    ZZZZZ

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:11:24 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: *looks lost* Message-ID: <199911220211240440.002456DA@post.hem.hu>

    Hi ACOS,:)

    >And let's not forget Stu Hamm. He's >out-funked alot of players that I know of.

    Ayyye.

    Stuart Hamm kicks my ass soooooooo fuckingmuch.

    He really IS a BASS-GOD!

    That country stuff he plays on one of his album is just .... bahhh ... no word for it.

    Bye

    ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz NP: DRE/\M THE/\TER: Wait for Sleep (Images & Words)

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:11:21 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: another bass-question Message-ID: <199911220211210750.00244C58@post.hem.hu>

    Hi Korgy,

    >But, saying that starting on a fretless bass is impossible would also say >that playing a violin is impossible, which it still is, for me. :P

    Ah, I played violin for ten years, but I had to give it up, as the violin was to 'small' for me...:(

    Maaan, but I would try to play a fretless bass. That would be kewl.

    Bye

    ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz NP From aaan iv'ry tooower hears her call....

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:38:04 +1100 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT mp3s Message-ID: <38389E7C.8BBC2444@alphalink.com.au>

    Unfortunately my discman was stolen on the weekend and the CD that was in it was SFaM. If anyone knows a site where I could download the album, so that I can listen between now and the time I buy the album again, could they email me privately? (If you dont believe me check past ytsejams and see the intelligent and amazing insightful comments i have made about the album!) Anyway, hopefully the wanker who stole my discman will listen to the CD, realise what he has been missing in life and kill himself. Thanks.

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:57:10 +0000 From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Buckethead Message-ID: <383886D5.F3D6B24B@bu.edu>

    > I do have one question. Could someone fill me in on Buckethead? I've > heard of him and saw him jam with Primus at Ozz Fest, but it just seemed > to me that there was some sort of gimmick I was missing in his set > opening for Primus tonight. > You're not really missing a gimmick with Buckethead. He said he wears the mask and KFC bucket so people will concentrate on his music. That's also why he goes by the name of Buckethead. Although you have to admit it is cool when this imposing figure comes out and starts ripping it up with a guitar or nunchucks.

    Isaac

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:40:18 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: spell-check; LTE 'self-indulgence' Message-ID: <19991122064018.18362.rocketmail@web307.mail.yahoo.com>

    Someone mentioned that they thought there was a grammatical error in the lyrics to Home. Something about "it's". The only "it's" I found were "it's what I long for" and "it's calling me...". In both of these cases, "it's" is the contraction of "it is" and thus should have the apostraphe (sp?) as printed. Was this what you meant?

    And someone else called LTE 'self-indulgent', using that to describe the instrumentals in SFAM. Might this be due to the improv nature of LTE? If the problem you have w/ LTE is that it's mostly all technical flash with little 'deep musical content', I think the improv nature is to blame. Deep musical stuff (ACOS, Met1, Learning to Live come to my mind) requires composition, I don't think it can just be jammed.

    I personally like the jam session feel of LTE. I like all the solos. Myung is a great bassist, I wish he'd show it off more. I recall him being complimented on the Jam for being as reserved as he is. I respect that, but when I listen to music, I want to hear how good the musicians are. As musicians first, then as composers.

    Just my 2 bits -Dan

    ===== "Let light surround you." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:42:35 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Steve Vai tour dates Message-ID: <3838E5DB.5F9448A3@siol.net>

    >Got this from his site: > >04.13.00 --- Budapest, Hungary --- TBD >04.14.00 --- Ljubjana, Czech Republic --- TBD > >So, Mr. Vai hope to see you in April! :) > >BUT, Since when is Ljubljana i Czecho? :) >Matej, did they assimilated you? :) > > >Now, is it Ljubljana or is it Prague???? Anyone???

    WHAT THE FUCK? :) Well I do hope it's our Ljubljana and not some Czech village :) And as far as I know they haven't assimilated us.. hey, if serbs couldn't do it, we ain't surrendering to some whimpy czechs :) hehe

    Matej (who will die and go to doggie haven if Vai actually does come to Ljubljana!!!)

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    Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT mp3s Message-ID: <19991122074835.12611.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com>

    Okay, I've finished uploading the mp3s. Go to http://happy-squid.webjump.com. I've tested the links and they appear to work, but ya never know. If there are problems, let me know and I'll try to correct them. Enjoy your mp3s. And sorry for the all the e-mail I sent, but I felt it necessary to keep you up to date. Hm. Laterz.

    ===== *Trent

    "There's colors on the street. Red, white & blue. People shuffeling their feet. People sleeping in their shoes. There's a warning sign on the road ahead. There's a lot of people thinking we'd be better off dead. Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them. So I try to forget them anyway I can." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:48:44 -0700 From: "Larry Odneal" <ldo1@prodigy.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Question for you computer guys (NDTC) Message-ID: <LPBBKKNMGNMEOCGMIHGFCEKGCAAA.ldo1@prodigy.net>

    Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:

    >What possible reasons (BEYOND it's not plugged in and the RAM not being >seated properly) could there be for a computer not powering on when you >hit the button?

    Hey Andrew,

    I'm assuming that you are assembling this system from scratch. I have run into this many times - here are some possible reasons:

    1. First of all, unplug the motherboard power plug, then hit the power button and see if the power supply fan is spinning (air should be blowing out). If it is, then you know that something else is wrong. If it ISN'T, you could have another bad power supply, or a bad, or improperly wired, power switch.

    2. Did you check the voltage selector on the back of the power supply? Make sure it's set to 115V (could possibly be 110V also), but definitely NOT 220 or 230.

    3. Check all jumpers on the motherboard. For example, there is usually a set of jumpers that determine the bus speed, another set that sets the multiplier (4x, 4.5x, etc.,) and another that sets the RAM speed (66 or 100). Doublecheck that you set them correctly - the diagrams are often very confusing.

    4. Unplug ALL devices, even the CPU fan and the floppy drive. The latter, if plugged in improperly, DEFINITELY causes the exact symptoms you described.

    5. Did you check for a jumper that sets the CMOS "clear" or "reset" option? Some motherboards ship with this jumper on, and then you could get the symptoms you described.

    6. Unplug any leads that go to the case's front panel (such as the HD light, the Power light, the keyboard lock if it exists, and the Reset button). You can always plug them in later once you get things going.

    7. If none of those work, make sure that there are no metal parts (such as old mounting screws) touching the underside of the motherboard. I wasted three days on this once.

    That's all I can think of for now - hope this helps. If not, please let me know what type of motherboard it is, and I'll try to find out more.

    Larry

    p.s. I think NuGgeTMaN was thinking of the AT power supplies, not the ATX, which no longer have the P1 and P2 wires (and I think it was P8 and P9). The ATX power supply has one giant plug, which is keyed to prevent plugging it in wrong.

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:27:48 -0800 (PST) From: Martin <newmln@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Munich gig Message-ID: <19991122082748.18431.rocketmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com>

    Hello all,

    I was in Munich to see new DT lineup in action and it was really cool. I agree with almost everyone that keyboards were bit down and I had problems hearing them... I had problems to hear anything after the gig, it was pretty loud :-) Well, only one thing disappointed me and it was Mike Portnoy when he gave his sticks to two chicks standing in a first row. Hmmm... girls are more important fans then, Mike? :-) Just kiddin'. SFAM rules!!!

    Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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