YTSEJAM Digest 5198
Today's Topics:
1) Re: time signatures
by Sebast87@aol.com
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5197
by "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
3) Bass guitars...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
4) Playing 4/4
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
5) *looks lost*
by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
6) Re: Bass guitars...
by "Jake Hill" <j_hil@oz.plymouth.edu>
7) Re: Ben's a moron!
by Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu>
8) Re: Lars Ulrich/ Load- Reload debate
by Fett2002@aol.com
9) Re: drummer jokes
by Fett2002@aol.com
10) Re: chaos and time sigs
by Maxam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= <maxam@uol.com.br>
11) slappin' the fretless
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
12) Question for you computer guys (NDTC)
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
13) Re: Re: Lars/keyboard debate (my last word on it)
by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
14) Just a freaky idea!
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
15) Korg's physical appearance?
by Scarred2112@aol.com
16) Blackened Time Sigs
by "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
17) another bass-question
by Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl>
18) Re: another bass-question
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
19) Re: Bass guitars...
by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
20) JR's patches
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
21) Re: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
22) "WE CAN HELP SECURE YOUR INTERNET FORTUNE!
by <Keizo@AdmiralKirk.com>
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:30:42 EST
From: Sebast87@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: time signatures
Message-ID: <0.21ff784.25671b82@aol.com>
Hi jammers!
Thank you for all the answers. I can see much clearer now I'm blind (no,
enlightened...).
The original posting I sent was meant to be a private mail but I sent it to
the jam by mistake. I'm sorry for that, but it helped me very much though.
Now I'm a god about time sigs :)
re-thank you all
SebasT
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:44:03 -0500
From: "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5197
Message-ID: <3835C4A3.7DB8AABC@unc.edu>
Many different people wrote many different things:
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:32:42 EST
> From: MTeiper@aol.com
> Subject: Re: New Opeth, and other stuff
>
> I didn't even know there was a new Opeth, so I checked out CDNow. It's only
> got "Still Life" listed as an import. Anyone know if it's being released
> domestically in the US? Roger? :-)
Yes, there is a new Opeth, and it will be released in the US-- when,
however, is unknown to me. _Still Life_ is absolutely amazing-- easily
their best work to date. Although I obtained a promotional copy, I
still bought the import, and I'll probably buy the domestic version when
it's released, too. "The Moor" and "Godhead's Lament"... ooh. =)
> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:08:40 -0800
> From: Justin James <jsj0656@labs.tamu.edu>
> Subject: Re: More metal comes out...
>
> Has anybody heard anything off of Cradle of Filth's "From the Cradle to
> the Grave" or something like that.? Does it have new music, or is it
> just videos for previous songs? I haven't heard Children of Bodom yet,
> but I've heard lots of good things from them. I plan on buying Opeth's
> new one as soon as I get more dough. I'm almost broke!
Hrm, haven't heard anything from Cradle of Filth's new one. Children of
Bodom are spinechilling. Both _Something Wild_ and _Hatebreeder_ are
excellent, and their new live CD, _Tokyo Warhearts_, proves just how
freaking amazing they are. I personally prefer _Hatebreeder_ since
"Downfall" is constantly blasting on my Klipsches. =)
BTW, the new Katatonia is also very good.
dtc
-- Daniel T. Chen chenda@cs.unc.edu NP : Opeth - Benighted------------------------------
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:59:05 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bass guitars... Message-ID: <001401bf32d9$50be3d00$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
Hey, all. I've gotta question for the bass players on the list. :)
I'm looking at getting a new 6-stringer bass for an affordable (under $1000) price. I'm mostly looking into getting a Washburn Bantam or an Ibanez Soundgear since that's all I know right now. The Yamaha RBX JM series looks very appetizing, too, but it's at the top end of my budget and I've never played a Yamaha bass and am unsure how comfortable I'd be with playing one.
Basically, I'm asking for advice on an affordable bass. :) I've seen the Ibanez SDGR406 for $590 (Musician's friend) and a Washburn XB600TR for $549 (Musician's Swap Shop via ebay, price pending) and the Yamaha RBX6JM (this one beckons to me fiercely) is $999 at Musician's Friend. What do I do? So many choices! :) -- KorgX3 would buy all three if he could. hehehehe. NP: John Tesh - One World Site of the day: http://www.despair.com/
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:13:40 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Playing 4/4 Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9911191708050.24059-100000@gs.bass.org>
Skarre asked: >Is this the way to play a standard 4/4 beat?
It depends on the feel. Swing/funk/disco/rock are all different. In straight rock, the typical manner is to have the snare emphasize the backbeat (2&4), the hihat playing sixteenths or eighths and the bass kicking on 1 and possibly 3 depending on the speed of the tune.
paul, still NOT a drummer, but could play one on TV NP My fingers drumming on my desk, time to GO. BTW, saw Bond last night: don't expect too much. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote:
At the center of fire there is cold/ all that glitters ain't gold
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:15:52 -0700 (MST) From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: *looks lost* Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9911191508470.77750-100000@acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca>
Slapping can be done on a fretless; Les Claypool does it quite frequently. As far as two seperate parts go on Through Her Eyes, I myself would need a couple of more listens before I became convinced that there was a second bass. Being a bassist myself, I'm always following the low end, and I've only noticed the one Pino Palladino-esque fretless part.
Grp
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:36:54 -0800 From: "Jake Hill" <j_hil@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Bass guitars... Message-ID: <000901bf32f7$ba3f8860$86ab889e@plymouth.edu>
Korg,
I used to own a Washburn XB600, and I personally wasn't impressed at all. I also own an Ibanez SDGR500, and personally love it. I've tried the John Myung Yamaha. (That will probably be my next purchase :) My advice: go to a music store that carries all three, and try them all out.
Jake ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Korg Ecksthrey <korgx3@safelink.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 2:09 PM Subject: Bass guitars...
> > Hey, all. I've gotta question for the bass players on the list. :) > > I'm looking at getting a new 6-stringer bass for an affordable (under $1000) > price. I'm mostly looking into getting a Washburn Bantam or an Ibanez > Soundgear since that's all I know right now. The Yamaha RBX JM series looks > very appetizing, too, but it's at the top end of my budget and I've never > played a Yamaha bass and am unsure how comfortable I'd be with playing one. > > Basically, I'm asking for advice on an affordable bass. :) I've seen the > Ibanez SDGR406 for $590 (Musician's friend) and a Washburn XB600TR for $549 > (Musician's Swap Shop via ebay, price pending) and the Yamaha RBX6JM (this > one beckons to me fiercely) is $999 at Musician's Friend. What do I do? So > many choices! :) > -- > KorgX3 would buy all three if he could. hehehehe. > NP: John Tesh - One World > Site of the day: http://www.despair.com/
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:41:33 -0500 From: Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Ben's a moron! Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.9911191738230.8634047-100000@mail1.ats.rochester.edu>
That is how you count 2.5/8! The time sig really did stump me at first, but eventually I figured it out. You're right, we musicians are pretty stupid here at the Eastman School of Music. ;^)
Ben
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:02:00 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Lars Ulrich/ Load- Reload debate Message-ID: <0.975f85b3.256730e8@aol.com>
Fett2002@aol.com wrote:
>> Also, I still don't get the negative recepton that >> Load and Reload have. If those albums were released by some new band th= at no >> one heard before, people would like them but just because they don't so= und >> like what people's previous perception of Metallica was they're suppose= d to >> be bad? That's rediculous too.
>Have you ever considered the possibility that some previous Metallica fan= >s gave >up on them because they totally changed their style of music? For example= >, if >Dream Theater suddenly decided to play some odd form of Norwegian accordi= >on >music, I'd definitely stop buying their recordings.
>Cheers!
Yeah, but my point is that many Metallica listeners WOULD enjoy Load and Reload if another artist did them. I hear people that I know say that those albums suck but then mention that they like something else like Tom Petty or Phish or something. Which is fine but it's not as though these people listen only to speed metal. Plus, it's kind of a rediculous analogy to compare it with DT doing a "form of Norwegian accordion music" as you say. They haven't changed THAT much by any stretch. It's still heavy music. -Mike
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:06:36 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: drummer jokes Message-ID: <0.5aab57b0.256731fc@aol.com>
Hey, Sorry if this was said already but speaking of drummer jokes, here goes one: What do you do when a drummer knocks at your door? -Pay him for the pizza
-Mike
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:58:33 -0200 From: Maxam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= <maxam@uol.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: chaos and time sigs Message-ID: <3835E429.100B7B2@uol.com.br>
Dan Wait wrote: > Chaos and time sigs.... (totally unrelated to > eachother, actually) > > And on LTE 2, on track 4 (can't remember the name off > the top of my head) the liner notes say something > about a 'listener award' for figuring out that wierd > 5/8 6/8 section... I've worked on it, but don't have > it down. Anyone else got it?
Oh, yeah, the Another Dimension middle part (5:02 - 5:29). I think I got it a while ago, but didn't send it to Rudess to receive any prize yet... :) Check it out:
6/8 5/8 6/8 6/8 6/8 5/8 6/8 4/4 5/8 5/8 5/8 15/16 5/8 5/8 5/8 5/8 5/8 5/8
[]'s Cassiano
------------------------------------------------------------------- - Cassiano Pereira Barbosa | "What we have been is what we are" - - cassi.b@uol.com.br | Dream Theater - - UIN 26458395 | - -------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:14:22 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: slappin' the fretless Message-ID: <19991120001423.24431.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Is it me or are there two bass parts in "Through Her Eyes" ? I swear >I hear JM doing these nifty fretless noodlings combined with slap >bass. Can you slap bass on a fretless? I always thought slap bass >required frets to slap against. Though I haven't played much fretless in the past, I thought that slapping just required a fretBOARD to slap against - I don't think the actual frets have to be there. The string could just as easily slap against the neck.
Frets aren't required for slapping, but they help a lot in the tone department. Les Claypool slaps & taps on fretless all the time, although you should by no means judge what is possible to do on the bass according to what Les Claypool does. And if there's two bass parts (i've only noticed one, but I'll go back and check), he's probably playing the fretless line and slapping a fretted bass. moo (sorry Cowgod, couldn't help it!)
-Banjoman np: Jamiroquai: Emergency on Planet Earth
p.s. Al, I told the bass violin joke today, and it was met with great.........humor cringes. Thanks! Here's a few more ya may enjoy:
Q:How can you tell if there's a drummer at your door? A:Because the knocking keeps getting faster, and faster....
Q:How can you tell if there's a singer at your door? A:They can't find the key, and they don't know when to come in
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:14:24 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Question for you computer guys (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911191909030.86444-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
What possible reasons (BEYOND it's not plugged in and the RAM not being seated properly) could there be for a computer not powering on when you hit the button?
To give some details, I've got a brand new ATX case/power supply with an ATX motherboard and PIII-450 processor. When I tried to run everything the first time, the power supply blew, apparently because the motherboard was bad. I sent the motherboard and power supply back to the compnay that I bought it from, and they replaced them. Well, when I finally got them, I put everything back into the case, plugged everything in, and turned it on. Nothing. Not so much as a power light blinking, no fans trying to spin up - NOTHING. This is seriously pissing me off, because I've had this five hundred dollar piece of equipment lying around in my room for THREE WEEKS and have not been able to use it ONCE. The oddest thing is that the closest I ever got to actually getting it to RUN was when it blew up on me the first time I tried to use it.
I tried taking out any unnecessary stuff, like the hard drives, and I also tried unplugging all devices such as video/sound cards. Still nothing.
I want to hear ANY reasons you can think of as to why this would not work, besides the obvious "Is it plugged in?" and the RAM not being seated properly, because I've already tried re-seating it three times.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:22:26 -0200 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Re: Lars/keyboard debate (my last word on it) Message-ID: <199911191618365@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>The stuff he plays is IMHO rather simple (I >don't care about that) compared to let's say MP, Steve Smith, Terry >Bozzio, >Rod Morgenstein, etc...
You'll get no argument from me here, but I just don't think simpler stuff means worse... Granted, he doesn't have the technical ability these guys you mentioned have, but that doesn't prevent him from being one of my favorite drummers (the old Lars, 'cause the "new" one flat out sucks)...
>Normally you are writing more intelligent posts, Adriano !!! :)
Dude, I NEVER write anything intelligent... :-) Actually, I just expressed my opinion, which is exactly what you did when you said Lars sucks... I know, I'm one of the few who thinks Lars WAS a fairly good drummer, but then what the hell do I know about playing the drums? hehehe
Later, Adriano
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:19:30 -0200 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Just a freaky idea! Message-ID: <3835E911.1BEC4514@conex.com.br>
Hello!!
I was just wondering, it would be extremely cool if in the Metropolis 2000 tour, during Metropolis I, if james sung "edward and julian" instead of "the miracle and the sleeper" :)...
[]s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:39:45 EST From: Scarred2112@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Korg's physical appearance? Message-ID: <0.be080bd7.256747d1@aol.com>
(> Dude, if you were looking that closely, maybe you would have noticed THE > BREASTS....
So, by your oh-so-forensic evaluation, I am a woman. *whacks Scarred over the head with a man-boob* -- KorgX3 is not a "tittyboy" he is a "Breasted Male." (to be PC) NP: Phillip Mai - Richard)
..so, Korg...can I buy you a drink? :P
scarred2112, who has nothing close to man-boobs.... [They closed Wolf's Deli?]
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:14:16 -0800 From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Blackened Time Sigs Message-ID: <001501bf32f4$94b0ffa0$f3c0aec7@default>
>> on ...And Justice for All he played in some weird time sigs > >Yes, there are many time sig changes in "Blackned".
Yup, we had this discussion a ways back - maybe about two years ago. In fact, it got heated and to prove that this is true I wrote out all the changes and posted it. Of course, this is my interpretation since there are an infinite number of "correct" interpretations.
If anyone is interested in seeing the time sig changes in "Blackened" in all their gory detail, please email me PRIVATELY and I'll send you the text file that I saved. Could be a good learning tool if you're just discovering time signatures and you have a copy of "...And Justice For All" handy.
Cheers, -Neil.
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 02:36:05 +0100 From: Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: another bass-question Message-ID: <3835FB05.A0DF2A41@cable.a2000.nl>
Hi there,
since we're talking about bass-guitars. I have another question. I really like the sound of fretless bass-guitars, and I would like to learn to play one. But is it better to start playing bass on a normal, fretted bass or could you start with a fretless?
Marc
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:50:38 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: another bass-question Message-ID: <001a01bf32f9$b0602640$700d84d0@safelink.net>
> But is it better to start playing bass on a normal, fretted bass or > could you start with a fretless?
I would say begin on a fretted. It's very helpful to know fret positions and such before trying to play a fretless because without frets you have no guide as to where to play on a fretless, except for your ear and the not-always-obligatory fret markers at the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and so on frets. But, if you're already a skilled guitar player, I'd think you'd have little trouble starting on a fretless, since you'd already be akin to the layout of the fretboard anyway.
But, saying that starting on a fretless bass is impossible would also say that playing a violin is impossible, which it still is, for me. :P -- KorgX3 slaps his bad bass. NP: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory - Soundtrack *I've got a golden ticket! I've got a golden twinkle in my eye...*
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 03:32:38 +0100 From: Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Bass guitars... Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E4AA@FILESERVER2>
> Basically, I'm asking for advice on an affordable bass. :) I've seen the > Ibanez SDGR406 for $590 (Musician's friend) and a Washburn XB600TR for $549 > (Musician's Swap Shop via ebay, price pending) and the Yamaha RBX6JM (this > one beckons to me fiercely) is $999 at Musician's Friend. What do I do? So > many choices! :)
I got my Yamaha RBX 6JM for about $830. Needless to say, I love this thing! :)
Mike P. (who now owns a Myung signature^2 model :) -- "What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?" -- Michael Pruchnicki Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:25:02 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: JR's patches Message-ID: <v04210101b45bc354cc52@[192.168.1.1]>
>neat". Two good examples are: The percussive organ(?) sound at 4:12 of >Fatal Tragedy and the synth brass thing at 8:28 of beyond this life (which >I know some people don't like).
What about the "sitar" in Home? And I still love every single second of Beyond This Life...
>How can I get out of this list(which comes nearly every fucking hour).
Yes, it's a mess indeed... Are you getting envious? ;-))
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:29:16 -0500 From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers Message-ID: <B45B7EB8.4934%marc@merespass.net>
> III) To remember the order of sharps, think of this helpful mnemonic: Fuck > Cooking, Get Doughnuts At Eddie's Bakery.
LOL! That's hilarious! :)
> Marc R: > So when Prince/Symbol performs Nothing Compares 2 U, he's covering Sinead?
Sounds weird doesn't it? I am actually going to go right out there and say, "yes." Why? Because ask anyone on the street about that new Prince song. They'll all go, "oh, he's covering Sinead." One guy in 10 might know it's really his song that he decided to record.
> That sounds wrong to me.
The whole concept of "cover" songs sounds wrong to me but that's the way it is.
> And according to you, prior to the advent of > recording technology, there was no such thing as a "cover"? Those > wandering bards in Merrie Olde England were all original then?
No. Don't confuse it. A cover song relies on a recording because a cover is when one artist performs a song that was originally made popular by another artist. Those wandering bards are just playing songs. Songs that people know as just songs. They don't know those songs as "Jim the Bard's" song and look at Phil the Bard all weird when he plays Jim's song. They're all just songs. But in this day of popular recorded music, a song is known to be not just a song but specifically associated with a particular artist.
--Marc R
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"A wonderful idea for large company" you say, "but a fairy tale for me.."
NOT ANY MORE!
Our company is already "leveling the playing field" and can provide all the resources and tools you need to help you start our Internet Business and position yourself today to make a fortune from the Internet explosion!
We are a rapidly-Growing technology company that is owned and financed by a 15-year-old international billion-dollar company that is publicly traded on the NYSE. We offer a uniquely stable ground floor opportunity, because our company is backed by an established business with a Dunn & Bradstreet credit rating of 5A1, the highest rating available to any business!!
We are currently seeking qualified individuals to independently market our rapidly-growing nationwide Internet and telecommunications services and our state-of-the-art Internet Access Device throughout the entire United States and, in the near future, Canadian and Japanese markets!
WE ARE SEEKING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE:
- Excited by the possibility of creating their own Internet fortune. - Understand why they must begin establishing their Internet presence today in order to do so. - Are willing to take immediate action and use our extensive resources and support to rapidly build their own business. - Are able to invest between $500 and $1000 to start their business. - Are serious about starting now!
PLEASE NOTE:
Our company is structured using a network marketing model similar to that of our 15-year-old parent company. This allows any individual to start his or her own business without a huge initial investment and makes our extensive resources and technology available to all who wish to use them. However, we only want serious, motivated individuals to consider joining our company and do not want our network marketing structure and relatively low start-up cost to attract the casually interested.
HOWEVER:
If you ARE serious, this is TRULY THE CHANCE OF A LIFETIME (and perhaps your only real chance) to "MAKE IT BIG" on the Internet!
We can provide you with the following products and technology to successfully compete in the Internet marketplace:
NATIONWIDE INTERNET ACCESS We offer our customers state-of-the-art Internet access through a high-speed backbone. We have over 2500 dial-in numbers that make us locally available anywhere in the country.
THE WORLD'S BEST-SELLING INTERNET SCREEN PHONE We have exclusive rights to market the first and most popular Internet Access Device in the world! With this compact unit the average user can be online, surfing the web, and sending and retrieving email within 10 minutes of taking it out of the box!! This device is available now and is selling rapidly.
AN EXTENSIVE E-COMMERCE WEBSITE We are rapidly developing a comprehensive online store where our customers will be able to purchase virtually any product or service they need! We already have hundreds of thousands of products and services as well as direct links to several affiliate sites, and we are adding new items every day! All transactions are carried out on our secure servers and all products are shipped promptly.
A PORTAL PAGE LEADING TO OUR E-COMMERCE WEBSITE We have designed an entry page to the web so that every time any of your customers or representatives logs on to the Internet to check their email or to access a website, they view this page which displays banners and ads directing them to our E-Commerce Store! And, you profit every time one of your customers or representatives makes an online purchase!
MULTIPLE TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICES We can keep our customers by offering them multiple, state-of-the-art telecommunications services, including long distance telephone service, cellular service, digital and alpha-numeric pager accounts, web hosting, an online university, and more! Furthermore, as more and more services deregulate, such as local telephone service and utilities, we will be competing for all of them!
A COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING WEBSITE The two top representatives in our organization have designed a detailed training site which clearly and objectively describes how to build a successful business. This website contains essential information on prospecting, recruiting, training new members, and acquiring new customers. Most importantly, as your business grows, it will dramatically decrease the time you spend training your representatives and free valuable time for you to continue building your organization.
SO, AS A REPRESENTATIVE, YOU CAN PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS WITH:
1) An Internet account. 2) A convenient device with which to access the web. 3) An E-Commerce site at which to shop. 4) Direction to that E-Commerce site every time they log on. 5) Multiple other telecommunications services.
ALL THE NECESSARY TOOLS YOU NEED TO:
- CAPTURE A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF NEW INTERNET USERS, - PROFIT FROM ALL E-COMMERCE THEY GENERATE, and - RAPIDLY EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS TO KEEP UP WITH INTERNET GROWTH.
CLEARLY, IF YOU STARTED NOW AND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS CAPTURED EVEN A TINY AMOUNT OF THE E-COMMERCE PROFITS ON THE INTERNET, YOU WOULD CREATE A RESIDUAL INCOME OF TRULY STAGGERING PROPORTIONS!!
REMEMBER!! - Our parent company has, over the last 15 years, created annual incomes of $152,098.00 to $649,550.15 for over 1,000 individuals. - Its representatives have a millionaires' circle and a 10-million- dollar circle. - It did, as a whole, over $1.5 billion in sales last year. - The revenue ultimately generated by our new company, which will ride the ensuing tidal wave of Internet Commerce, WILL LIKELY SURPASS THAT OF THE PARENT COMPANY BY AT LEAST 10 TIMES!!
DON'T MISS YOUR CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FORTUNES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CREATED!
LET US HELP YOU START BUILDING..
CALL TOLL FREE 1-888-277-7691 TODAY!!
PLEASE NOTE: If you choose to leave your full mailing address, you will receive, free of charge or obligation:
1. A VIDEOTAPE outlining our remarkable opportunity, and 2. An INTERNET SIGNUP CD with which you can access our nationwide internet service.
CALL 1-888-277-7691!
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