YTSEJAM Digest 5197
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Time signatures explained
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
2) Re: feeling the beginning of LTL
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
3) cool DT time sigs
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
4) Ben's a moron! (SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
5) Re: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
6) Matt; Drummers: NDTC
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
7) Re: Top 5 PLaylist...
by BloodMystX@aol.com
8) Re: Matt; Drummers: NDTC
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
9) Re: Ron Jeremy thread...
by BloodMystX@aol.com
10) Re: Matt; Drummers: NDTC
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5196
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu>
12) Re: Time signatures explained
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
13) Re: Lars Ulrich
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
14) Re: Lars/Keyboard debate
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
15) Re: New Opeth, and other stuff
by MTeiper@aol.com
16) Re: More metal comes out...
by Justin James <jsj0656@labs.tamu.edu>
17) Re:keyboard debate
by Fett2002@aol.com
18) Tim "herb" Alexander
by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
19) Re: CDNow coupons
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
20) Re: Re:keyboard debate
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
21)
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
22) 5YIAL
by Brian Deuel <bdeuel@pathwaynet.com>
23) Re Xanadu.....or is it Prism all over again
by "Peter Restall" <Restallp@edgehill.ac.uk>
24) Re: Musical humor
by "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
25) Re: Re Xanadu.....or is it Prism all over again
by "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
26) Erotomania on the Radio!
by "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net>
27) *looks lost*
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
28) Re: *looks lost*
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
29) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5195
by Wakeup3000@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:28:58 -0800
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Time signatures explained
Message-ID: <38346F9A.9C68B92E@ucla.edu>
> 15/16 isn't hard to count. Anyone can count to 15. It's often hard to
> *feel*. I haven't heard any quality music that was written in an odd time
> that didn't feel good. That's what makes it good music. When it feels good,
> you can play it by feel and not notice the time sig. I can't believe that DT
> is counting on any song.
It's not that hard to count or feel, once you get into it. I know there
are a few marching band nerds around here, so perhaps they will know
what I mean. My high school band director used to make us march 8 to 5
alternating with 7 to 5, which means 8 steps to 5 yards, then 7 steps to
5 yards (standard field is 8 to 5). We'd do this for howver long it
took so everyone could do it and not botch up, at all sorts of tempos.
Pretty much the same thing as counting to 15 over and over again. To me
it always felt like two measures of 8 with a beat dropped at the very
end. Viva marching band.
-- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: feeling the beginning of LTL Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911181632050.31351-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Chris Oates wrote:
> >> 15/16 isn't hard to count. Anyone can count to 15. It's often hard to > >> *feel*. > > > >Actually, 15/16 is pretty easy to feel. It's just a funk shuffle with > >five beats per measure. > > Yes, traditionally, but when specifically referring to the beginning > of Learning To Live (the original context) it is not that. I feel it > as: > > ONE two three ONE two three ONE two THREE four ONE two THREE four five > > So, it probably should be 6/16 followed by 4/16 followed by 5/16, but > when you're repeating it several times, it gets a bit tedious to > change meters every measure, so I'm content with 15/16 :)
That's why I did say "traditionally" in my earlier post about time sigs. As I said before, a lot of twentieth century people (whether they be orchestral composers or rock groups) use time sigs in a more convenient fashion because they're lazy. But then, ALL composers are lazy; it's in our nature.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:56:55 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: cool DT time sigs Message-ID: <19991118215656.55752.qmail@hotmail.com>
Nah. Just feel it. Notice on SFaM, track 6, near the end, they do that cool 9/8 to 4/4 section. Erotomania has that fun 5/4 intro. As you pointed out, Learning to Live has that 15/16 part. And everyone's favorite, The Mirror which is, I guess, 12/8 but feels like 4 over 3. It all feels good.
Not my favorite =^). I like that slow, almost funky, middle section of LTL where it keeps going back and forth between 7/4 and 6/4. But I'm just a weirdo, I guess. And the erotomania is three measures of 5/4 followed by one of 9/8. And it's repeated throughout the song.
-Banjoman
np: Tony Trishcka Band-Bend (imagine the Flecktones, the Allman Brothers, and the Mahavishnu Orchestra all rolled into one!)
p.s. Al, I'd like you to know you made THIS bass violinist (my sig says Banjoman, I know) fall out of his chair with excruchitating laughter...and I was definitely NOT loaded at the time =^)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:07:32 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Ben's a moron! (SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Message-ID: <19991118220733.42070.qmail@hotmail.com>
Try this one on for size: In the first movement of "All In Twilight" for classical guitar by Toru Takemitsu, the time starts out in 2.5/8! It's actually kind-a easy. Sub-divide, sub-divide, sub-divide!!!Ben
otherwise known as 5/16, Ben
-Banjoman
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:08:10 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers Message-ID: <002c01bf3211$79b98f20$6b0d84d0@safelink.net>
> I) You shouldn't admit you made a mistake to the Jam. They'll tear you > apart.
Uhhh. Actually, it wasn't a mistake. I was actually groping to acheive a MixoLydian-Ionian Conjugate Sub-Lydian Dominant Sus 4 Add 39 scale... I'm still surprised nobody got that. Uhhh... huhuhuh... Uhh.... Check this out....
> Dude, if you were looking that closely, maybe you would have noticed THE > BREASTS....
So, by your oh-so-forensic evaluation, I am a woman. *whacks Scarred over the head with a man-boob* -- KorgX3 is not a "tittyboy" he is a "Breasted Male." (to be PC) NP: Phillip Mai - Richard
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:17:24 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Matt; Drummers: NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9911181712150.2271-100000@gs.bass.org>
Matt Johnston showed the jam just how twisted he is. keep up the good work.
Someone else (sorry) wrote: <not verbatim) It's about the music and drumming is a part of that.
That reminded me of a joke:
Q. What do you call someone who hangs out with musicians (not as defined copyright Korg X3 Esq.)
A. A drummer.
paul, NOT a drummer. NP Lee Ritenour: Best of ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote:
At the center of fire there is cold/ all that glitters ain't gold
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:32:03 EST From: BloodMystX@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Top 5 PLaylist... Message-ID: <0.f93430bf.2565d863@aol.com>
<< I hope this like, changed someone's life today, or at the very least helped somebody not to commit suicide or something. 8-) >>
Of course it changed someone's life today...Remember the Chaos Theory...;)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:32:01 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Matt; Drummers: NDTC Message-ID: <005901bf3214$bd0ddbc0$702010ac@clemson.edu>
> Q. What do you call someone who hangs out with musicians (not as defined > copyright Korg X3 Esq.) > > A. A drummer.
did you hear about the bassist who locked his keys in the car? it took 2 hours to get the drummer out.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:38:40 EST From: BloodMystX@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ron Jeremy thread... Message-ID: <0.93ec2404.2565d9f0@aol.com>
<< How about this: "Ron Jeremy is a legend." >>
There it is...The most absolute statement ever created by man...No longer will we be measuring by ounces, inches, or miles...Everything now will be measured in Jeremies...Also, no longer will you weigh 200 pounds, but 0.9 Jeremies...
What a damn genius that man is!
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:48:57 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Matt; Drummers: NDTC Message-ID: <005701bf3217$1989ef90$b2589780@BLARGH>
> did you hear about the bassist who locked his keys in the car? it took 2 > hours to get the drummer out.
Damn guitarists, they never get the jokes right. It took two hours to get the BASSIST out dammit!
(yah yah, I know the joke works both ways, but as a drummer, I must defend myself - plus it never hurts to make fun of dan for fucking up a joke!)
Scott.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:22:13 -0800 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5196 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991118182213.007d8100@imap.indiana.edu>
>From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> >To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers >Kretsch: >Very good help, but you consistently used eighth when it should be >sixteenth. And 4/8 is used quite often when the beat is eighth <= 64.
Yep - I had that mistake pointed out to me. I figured that if I just made sure that I spelled "eighth" correctly everyone would think I was decently intelligent...haha
Despite this slipup, I would like to think I know a thing or two about music theory - I should attending IU-School Of Music...If anyone needs help with any questions they are too scared to post to the jam for whatever reason, just email me privately.
Jon
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:39:40 +0100 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Time signatures explained Message-ID: <38348E3C.627A80B6@home.se>
Since the topic has been brought up, I thought it couldn't hurt me to try= and follow it. Maybe I'll be able to expand my drumming from 4/4 after this t= hread is over :o) I understood most of what you wrote, but I'm pondering on one thing. T= his may sound very silly considering some people refer to me as the drummer of ou= r band, but I just haven't thought of this before.
Is this the correct way to play 4/4 on the drums?
H =3D Hi Hat, S =3D Snare, B =3D Bassdrum
H: 1 2 3 4 | S: 3 | B: 1 | ------------
And if so, would 16/4 be:
H: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 | S: 9 | B: 1 | -------------------------------------------
I guess what I'm trying to say is: do you count the top number with the H= i-Hat when you're playing the drums? I realize you can do much more complex pat= terns with the same signatures, but just the basics for now please :o)
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
Regards,
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet [ http://sdts.cjb.net ] [ mailto:sdts@home.se ]
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:39:45 +0100 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Lars Ulrich Message-ID: <38348E41.23AE7D72@home.se>
Fett2002@aol.com wrote:
> Also, I still don't get the negative recepton that > Load and Reload have. If those albums were released by some new band th= at no > one heard before, people would like them but just because they don't so= und > like what people's previous perception of Metallica was they're suppose= d to > be bad? That's rediculous too.
Have you ever considered the possibility that some previous Metallica fan= s gave up on them because they totally changed their style of music? For example= , if Dream Theater suddenly decided to play some odd form of Norwegian accordi= on music, I'd definitely stop buying their recordings.
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet [ http://sdts.cjb.net ] [ mailto:sdts@home.se ]
- Always glad to share my ignorance - I've got plenty -
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:18:07 -0200 From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Lars/Keyboard debate Message-ID: <19991118191807.B4245@iname.com>
On Nov 18 1999, Adriano F. Giacomini wrote: > on ...And Justice for All he played in some weird time sigs
Yes, there are many time sig changes in "Blackned".
> Anyway, he's changed his whole > approach as far as drumming goes, he's chosen to simplify his > playing as much as possible...
The band said that they were getting more and more progressive with the release of each album and that the band wasn't having fun playing the songs. So they said they chose to stick to a simpler format.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:32:42 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Opeth, and other stuff Message-ID: <0.c41749d8.256610ca@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/18/1999 9:59:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Same here. Right now I'm taking a break from the new Opeth and Tristania, both of which are so absolutely amazing that I'm sure that I've worn out my roommate's patience by blasting them at a ridiculous volume over my new Klipsch computer speakers! ;-) >>
I didn't even know there was a new Opeth, so I checked out CDNow. It's only got "Still Life" listed as an import. Anyone know if it's being released domestically in the US? Roger? :-)
Also, does anyone know a track listing of the upcoming live G N' R CD?
That's about it. Thanks... Matt T.
PS: Ron Jeremy truly IS a legend!!! LOL!
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:08:40 -0800 From: Justin James <jsj0656@labs.tamu.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: More metal comes out... Message-ID: <3834DB58.C6734737@labs.tamu.edu>
Has anybody heard anything off of Cradle of Filth's "From the Cradle to the Grave" or something like that.? Does it have new music, or is it just videos for previous songs? I haven't heard Children of Bodom yet, but I've heard lots of good things from them. I plan on buying Opeth's new one as soon as I get more dough. I'm almost broke!
Justin
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:19:49 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:keyboard debate Message-ID: <0.3e01b482.256637f5@aol.com>
>> >Am I the only one that likes all three of them?? > >?No, you're not. Count me in.
>Count me in as well... I've become a big Derek fan... Yeah, I don't >think his style was right for the band, but the guy is a heck of a >player, and FII was a very good album IMO... Just like pretty much >everybody else (except for that guy who thinks WDADU is DT's best >album and that DS was what the band needed), I like Kev and Jordan >the most, but Derek's not as bad as most people say, IMHO...
I also like all 3 keyboardists. I have to say though that Kevin is definitely my favorite. I like his style much better than Derek's but Derek is still a pretty decent player. As for Jordan, I enjoy his stuff on SFAM but I don't have a great feel for him yet. For some reason I think it was a lot easier to get a feel for Derek in his one album (not counting ACOS) than it is for Jordan on this one. Maybe that's because on this album, the themes were all obviously linked together and he may have neen limited by it. I think we'll truly understand what he brings to the table on the next album. But so far I definitely like what I hear and I for one enjoy that player piano part on SFAM. Anyone else fell this way? -Mike
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tim "herb" Alexander Message-ID: <199911190524.AAA28317@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>
Yeah, I knew he was the former drummer....the new guy (came in on the Brown Album) is just called Brain......I really don't know what his real name is :)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:09:15 -0600 From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: CDNow coupons Message-ID: <19991119.012701.13902.1.schnapster@juno.com>
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 02:35:51 -0500 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Re:keyboard debate Message-ID: <001b01bf3260$b4fb98e0$47ab889e@plymouth.edu>
> I also like all 3 keyboardists. I have to say though that Kevin is definitely > my favorite. I like his style much better than Derek's but Derek is still a > pretty decent player. As for Jordan, I enjoy his stuff on SFAM but I don't > have a great feel for him yet. For some reason I think it was a lot easier
I like all three also, but what I think sets Rudess apart is the voices he chooses to use. The main thing I didn't like so much about DS was I think his voices were a bit repetitive. Generally, the voices he liked to use were a bit "abrasive" sounding, and made some of the stuff harder to listen to. Jordan uses a great deal of variety in the key sounds. A few of them really jumped out at me, just made me say "wow, that sounds pretty f*ckin' neat". Two good examples are: The percussive organ(?) sound at 4:12 of Fatal Tragedy and the synth brass thing at 8:28 of beyond this life (which I know some people don't like). IMO, the keys are the single most versatile instrument in the band, and Rudess is by far the best at exploiting that. Just my thoughts.
Regards, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua IRC: Mortua
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:58:32 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC43CA@julia.um.be>
>>I gotta disagree with you here. Lars is an awesome drummer. Just >because he >>doesn't have drum clinics doesn't mean he's a bad drummer.
I did not mean that you are a lousy drummer if you don't do drum clinics. I just wanted to point out that Lars is not doing any drumclinics because he is not capable of doing so. The stuff he plays is IMHO rather simple (I don't care about that) compared to let's say MP, Steve Smith, Terry Bozzio, Rod Morgenstein, etc...
Bang That Head That Doesn't Bang ! (For the elderly people amongst us...)
HeinV
Normally you are writing more intelligent posts, Adriano !!! :)
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:35:05 -0500 From: Brian Deuel <bdeuel@pathwaynet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 5YIAL Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991119042520.00ba3280@mail.pathwaynet.com>
I FINALLY picked this video up. Never having seen DT live, video, or otherwise; this was a definite "why the hell didn't I pick this up before?!?!?!" purchase! I really dig the live stuff from the "Waking...." tour and the Uncovered gig. The "Damage, Inc." clip with Barney from Napalm Death had me rolling! The band was obviously... how do I put this.... pleasantly amused at Barney's lung- lacerating vocals. When he came in with the first verse vocal, and John cracked up, I fell over laughing my ass off. I've seen Napalm live, and it's hard not to laugh; just for the sake of how cool and extreme his voice, and NDs music, is.
Well, that's my worthless two cents. Hope to catch the band on this tour (Orbit Room, Grand Rapids maybe?).
Brian Deuel http://coinop.vintagegaming.com
In my CD player: Rush- Power Windows (the best of the keyboard years, IMO :)
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:54:18 +0000 From: "Peter Restall" <Restallp@edgehill.ac.uk> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re Xanadu.....or is it Prism all over again Message-ID: <s8352c70.043@edgehill.ac.uk>
Jammers
Re Xanadu
I was one of the many screwed by Prism and was overjoyed when I heard out = of generosity, other "lables" would see we'd all get are discs, I've = had mine from Todd ( the mans a star, he even took over a title from = Scarred, so it cost him twice to send) I know Ryans good he's helped me out before on more than one occassion, = so no "Flamming" intended or directed there. (I hope things are well in = Texas ,Ryan)
but Xanadu.. has any one on that list received a disc at all from them, = I've sent several e-mails and had no reply ,=20 It can't be more than $2 max to produce a disc, and standard post to = England weighing up to 1LB is under $5, it must be cheaper "internal"so = the costs are hardly prohibitive
any comments Troops
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:48:46 +0200 From: "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Musical humor Message-ID: <008001bf3284$cf8a9160$6363ec3e@pentium>
-----Original Message----- ]From: Josh Calkin <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Date: 18. marraskuuta 1999 21:45 Subject: Re: Musical humor
>>bottom of the Ninth, the score is tied, and the bassists are loaded." >Dammit, AL! It's supposed to be tubas... just ask a tubist about slamming >beers... >We're renowned musical alcoholics...
This is true! When my orchestra was playing in a production in our National Opera (with Waltari and Nightwish's Tarja), in every single performance between the soundcheck and the actual show, the whole brass section went for a smoke and after the show, for a drink =)
And most of them aren't even 18 years old =)
-WT-
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:40:45 -0600 From: "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Re Xanadu.....or is it Prism all over again Message-ID: <006201bf3293$bc021e60$75058ad1@boner>
Well, considering that john (xanadu) uses his bootleg selling as his only source of income (so i've heard), and the fact that i'm sure he doesnt have many repeat customers due to the quality (or lack of) of the end product and service, profit must be maximized. Therefore, the $20 - $25 per disc price for an analog recording that was transfered to cd. dont get me wrong. i'd pay $20 - $25 for a real bootleg (non-cdr), but not for a cdr. and yes, cdr media is under $1 now. I actually found a place that sells lots of 100 discs for $65 + shipping. throw in some paper and ink for the liners and it's about $2.
> > but Xanadu.. has any one on that list received a disc at all from them, = > I've sent several e-mails and had no reply ,=20 > It can't be more than $2 max to produce a disc, and standard post to = > England weighing up to 1LB is under $5, it must be cheaper "internal"so = > the costs are hardly prohibitive
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:29:12 -0500 From: "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: "YTSEJAM Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Erotomania on the Radio! Message-ID: <000f01bf329a$77ba1760$76035a8c@nws.noaa.gov>
Well almost anyway. One of the female DJs on DC101, around 8PM, was giving away concert tix and had the beginning of Erotomania playing in the background while she blabbed. I almost crashed!
I guess that's as close as that station will ever get too playing OFB on that radio station. Too bad. I wonder though, do you think that the DJs get to pick their own background music (or whatever the industry jargon is for that). Regardless, someone at DC101 knows about the GREATEST ROCK-N-ROLL BAND THAT EVER LIVED! (IMO, of course :-)
I-Man
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:48:25 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: *looks lost* Message-ID: <000801bf32b2$da0fcfa0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
Is it me or are there two bass parts in "Through Her Eyes" ? I swear I hear JM doing these nifty fretless noodlings combined with slap bass. Can you slap bass on a fretless? I always thought slap bass required frets to slap against.
Pardon my ignorance. :) I've played bass (fretted and fretless both) for quite awhile, but have never figured out how to play slap. Kinda like how I played guitar for two years before I knew how to play a harmonic or even a string bend. hehehe. Self-schooling isn't always good. :P
If it is all done on one fretless, it renews my admiration of JM's playing even more. Jeez. He is a bass God. -- KorgX3 says fuck opinions, dildos make great tongue depressers. NP: Dream Theater - SFAM
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:35:29 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: *looks lost* Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911191233520.41132-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
> Is it me or are there two bass parts in "Through Her Eyes" ? I swear > I hear JM doing these nifty fretless noodlings combined with slap > bass. Can you slap bass on a fretless? I always thought slap bass > required frets to slap against.
Though I haven't played much fretless in the past, I thought that slapping just required a fretBOARD to slap against - I don't think the actual frets have to be there. The string could just as easily slap against the neck.
> KorgX3 says fuck opinions, dildos make great tongue depressers.
Only you would post something like this....
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:54:36 EST From: Wakeup3000@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5195 Message-ID: <0.210d9316.2566f6ec@aol.com>
Hi!
How can I get out of this list(which comes nearly every fucking hour).
Greetings.DT rules.
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