YTSEJAM Digest 5196
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Xanadu Records
by "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
2) Abolute
by "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net>
3) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5195
by "Greg Stafford" <stafcom@gw.total-web.net>
4) Lars/Keyboard debate
by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
5) Re: Lars/Keyboard debate
by "Brian O'Brien" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
6)
by Eric Thibaut <nedrapture@netscape.net>
7) Re: TSO live / Repeated Thread Syndrome (RTS)
by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5195
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
9) chaos and time sigs
by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
10) Drummers
by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
11) feeling the beginning of LTL
by Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
12) Drummer Thread...WHY?
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
13) Re: Musical humor
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
14) Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
15) Re: Musical humor
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
16) Re: Lars/Keyboard debate
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5192
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
18) Odd Time Sig
by Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu>
19) Re: Drummer Thread...WHY?
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
20) Dad's DT and Petrucci's Shred
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
21) Re: Drummers
by "dreamer" <dreamer@otenet.gr>
22) Kid Rock's drummer...
by Scarred2112@aol.com
23) Opt-in email lists for only 33 cents!
by "wayne" <dfgh@888.nu>
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:54:54 -0600
From: "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Xanadu Records
Message-ID: <004b01bf31dd$42b2a2c0$ca988ad1@boner>
Sound like the similar experience i had about 2-3 years ago with the only
tape trade i ever set up with him. still havent gotten them. ohh well.
i've long since given up trying to get them.
then, spotted a cd bootleg on ebay that i havent seen before. checked the
feedback (user name "farmer-joe"), short but good. decided to bid on it.
ended up winning. then i get a message from john dibella about payments.
i'm thinking, well, maybe i'll have better experiences this time. the show
ended up being a crappy analog transfer to cd. there were pops and cracks
all over the place, which is very annoying to listen to with headphones.
and to top it off, the tracks werent even in the right order. decided to
contact him about it, since he claims he has a money back guarantee. tried
to get the cash back, wouldnt do it. he said he would send me a new copy if
i sent it back. so i did. didnt hear from him for about a month. decided
to email him and got no reply. so i posted to alt.music.bootlegs responding
to one of his posts requesting trades. claims he was remastering the show,
but now isnt goign to send me anything because i was a prick in my posting
to the newsgroup. ohh well.
i have to say that he is the most unproffesional person i've dealt with in
my 10 years of trading / buying boots. at least with bahr, i eventually got
something that was half-way decent, even if it was 6 months late. :-)
later.
> Since everyone is posting their comments, I figure I'll add my two cents.
> I'd recommend being cautious with John DiBella as well.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:31:38 -0500
From: "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net>
To: "YTSEJAM Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Abolute
Message-ID: <001001bf31e2$63fa9640$76035a8c@nws.noaa.gov>
> > > Yeah I see it now, it all comes down on the discussion "Is there
> > > ANYTHING absolute in this universe or not?"
> >
> > Have you seen the Matrix? Cool concept.
>
>Oh c'mon Ivancho! :) You can do better than that! There are times for
>joking and times to be serious. (BTW, I didn't see the movie yet) An
>artist can imagine any kind of fiction in his movie/book. However cool
>it might sound (Heck I LOVE "The 5-th element" idea) but let's be
>realistic. Be honest and tell me you REALLY consider Matrix concept or
>any other that type of movie as serious candidate for THE TRUE nature of
>the universe?
I think, therefore, I am!
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:41:50 -0500
From: "Greg Stafford" <stafcom@gw.total-web.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5195
Message-ID: <NDBBJAOKCLFDIHNFDJMHOEBBCAAA.stafcom@gw.total-web.net>
Hey gang I finally was able to find the CD by Ice Age. I am very impressed
with it and enjoy the CD. Especially since it IS their first.
Check it out,
The Wizard
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:55:18 -0200
From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Lars/Keyboard debate
Message-ID: <199911180855154@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>I gotta disagree with you here. Lars is an awesome drummer. Just >because he
>doesn't have drum clinics doesn't mean he's a bad drummer.
>I mean, on And Justice for All (an album which Lars' drumming is
>incredible by the way)
Gotta agree with you here... Personally, I think Lars has chosen to
make himself an ordinary drummer... He played some great stuff on
Metallica's early albums, and on ...And Justice for All he played in
some weird time sigs - or so it would seem to me, the whole album
may be on 4/4, I wouldn't know the difference... I guess I'm just
too dumb to learn this shit... :-) Anyway, he's changed his whole
approach as far as drumming goes, he's chosen to simplify his
playing as much as possible... Hell, he even reduced his kit...
I remember he said in an interview some years ago (Black Album era)
that, when he was younger, he'd never liked Phil Rudd and Ian Paice
because they couldn't play a decent fill, but that they'd become
his favorite drummers because of their simplicity... That pretty
much says everything...
>> Am I the only one that likes all three of them??
>
>No, you're not. Count me in.
Count me in as well... I've become a big Derek fan... Yeah, I don't
think his style was right for the band, but the guy is a heck of a
player, and FII was a very good album IMO... Just like pretty much
everybody else (except for that guy who thinks WDADU is DT's best
album and that DS was what the band needed), I like Kev and Jordan
the most, but Derek's not as bad as most people say, IMHO...
Later,
Adriano
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:05:52 -0600
From: "Brian O'Brien" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Lars/Keyboard debate
Message-ID: <B4598E10.1079%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
Lars sucks. All you need to know is this: the band themselves say that songs
tend to speed up in concert because Lars can't keep time.
-Brian
--Each time I write lines for it, someone improvises it life is so much cleaner on the page.
-Kevin Moore
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Date: 18 Nov 99 12:29:53 EST From: Eric Thibaut <nedrapture@netscape.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: <19991118172954.4515.qmail@www0b.netaddress.usa.net>
Definitions of musician: > A) A person who has a lifetime subscription to one of the following > publications: Guitar World, Guitar for the Practicing Musician, Keyb= oard > magazine, Hit Parader, Rolling Stone, Better Horns and Gardens... > B) A person who has calloused hands. > C#) A person who shows signs of male pattern baldness. > D#) A person who can correctly tell you in what key you flatulate.. > E) A person who know that sharp means "pointy" and flat means "press= ed into > a thin shape." Example: "I'm gonna flatten you like a fucking pancak= e, > BOYEEEEEEE!!!!" > F#) A person who owns more than 30 CD's or knows another person who does. > G) A person with an unpronouncable last name. i.e.: Ptacek, N'degece= llo, > Petrucci, Kuprij, Spears... > A) A person who can count to four.
>Here's another one: A person who knows that if Korg had written G# >instead > of G, he would have outlined his list in an A Lydian scale.
I think he's one of those Lydian-Dominant guys! There are usually a few = of those around.
Thank you, Good Night Eric Thibaut/Ned Rapture (you choose)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:38:06 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: TSO live / Repeated Thread Syndrome (RTS) Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991118123518.00b16db0@email.psu.edu>
For those of you interested, tickets are selling VERY QUICKLY. From what I understand, the original show for Cleveland sold out in less than 45 minutes, and tickets are not even officially on sale! Luckily I got me advance ticket order in early enough. Should be a great show. Check out the web site.
Chris
>If you live near Philly (...and you like the band...), buy your tickets >NOW. They're not on sale officially yet (just through the TM website), so >the "good seats" are all still available. Example: I somehow managed to >score front row center. No promises.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5195 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991118100725.12281B-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
companion. "Well, of course," said her companion. "Don't you see? It's the bottom of the Ninth, the score is tied, and the bassists are loaded."
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first. Everything in between is a matter of balance.
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End of YTSEJAM Digest 5195 ************************** ----------
AL! You bastard! How *DARE* you get an EOJ with that joke?!
Okay okay, a little music content... Bought the new NIN album yesterday. And sure enough, it has a little music content (badum bump ching!) But seriously, I'm actually pretty impressed with it. There's some moments that are, dare I say, proggy. "Just Like You Imagined" is a great atmospheric instrumental in 5/4, with guest guitars by Adrian Belew (of the current King Crimson). In fact, belew adds fe notes to three songs on the album. Actually, the big reason I could get into the album was that I just got dumped by my girlfriend and none of the songs were about pigs. That's about it.
But I have to say that, for industrial, it's surprising melodic, and downright enjoyable.
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:23:54 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: chaos and time sigs Message-ID: <19991118182354.18069.rocketmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com>
Chaos and time sigs.... (totally unrelated to eachother, actually)
Chaos: just thought I'd add to the "Webster's" thread... does anyone find it disconcerting that EVERY reaction that occurs naturally occurs to increase the chaos in the universe ;) ?
And on LTE 2, on track 4 (can't remember the name off the top of my head) the liner notes say something about a 'listener award' for figuring out that wierd 5/8 6/8 section... I've worked on it, but don't have it down. Anyone else got it?
-Dan
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:34:38 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Drummers Message-ID: <199911181834.NAA01071@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>
I cannot believe someone is saying that Portnoy doesn't rank on the best drummers around. What kind of crack are you smoking??? The best five drummers around right now in my opinion is, from 5-1, Brain (from Primus....don't know his real name), The dude from Dave Matthew's (I must be getting old, because his name completely slipped my mind), Mike Portnoy, Mark Zonder and Neil Peart
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:35:12 -0800 From: Chris Oates <coates@objy.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: feeling the beginning of LTL Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991118103512.00c79100@objypop>
>> 15/16 isn't hard to count. Anyone can count to 15. It's often hard to >> *feel*. > >Actually, 15/16 is pretty easy to feel. It's just a funk shuffle with >five beats per measure.
Yes, traditionally, but when specifically referring to the beginning of Learning To Live (the original context) it is not that. I feel it as:
ONE two three ONE two three ONE two THREE four ONE two THREE four five
So, it probably should be 6/16 followed by 4/16 followed by 5/16, but when you're repeating it several times, it gets a bit tedious to change meters every measure, so I'm content with 15/16 :)
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:37:36 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Drummer Thread...WHY? Message-ID: <19991118.123829.11670.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
This is the one thing I can't stand more than anything else in the world: "my band is better than yours, they can play better" This is total bullshit. If you are good enough to be in a band to get a record deal, first off you have to be a semi descent musician. True someone can play odd time sigs, be really tight etc. etc. I don't think there is a true way to grade how good a drummer really is. There have been great drummers of past and present that aren't able to sit behind a huge kit and belt out snare hits tight as hell with a guitar. Ringo Star comes to behind. he was so fluent behind the kit, and his kit was a toy today. Another really fluent drummer that comes to mind today is Morgan Rose from Sevendust. I saw these guys live, and just seems so relaxed, and all over the place, but very tight. Let;'s get back to the important thing here: the music not whose better.
Kurt NP-DT-OIALT (Just Let me Breathe)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:17:49 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Musical humor Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991118191749.01603ad4@pi-r-squared.com>
>A few moments later they staggered back to the concert hall and took >their places in the orchestra. About this time, a member of the audience >noticed the conductor seemed a bit edgy and said as much to her >companion. "Well, of course," said her companion. "Don't you see? It's the >bottom of the Ninth, the score is tied, and the bassists are loaded."
Die. :P
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Korg's "musicianship";time sigs;classical covers Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9911181405500.12715-100000@gs.bass.org>
Korg-dude:
I) You shouldn't admit you made a mistake to the Jam. They'll tear you apart.
II) You should have blithely responded, offhand, that you were thinking of an E melodic minor starting on A.
III) To remember the order of sharps, think of this helpful mnemonic: Fuck Cooking, Get Doughnuts At Eddie's Bakery.
IV) Then remember that your key is a half-step higher than your last sharp.
Kretsch: Very good help, but you consistently used eighth when it should be sixteenth. And 4/8 is used quite often when the beat is eighth <= 64.
Marc R: So when Prince/Symbol performs Nothing Compares 2 U, he's covering Sinead? That sounds wrong to me. And according to you, prior to the advent of recording technology, there was no such thing as a "cover"? Those wandering bards in Merrie Olde England were all original then?
paul [damn I'm helpful, I deserve a gold star] NP o6+>: Rave ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote:
At the center of fire there is cold/ all that glitters ain't gold
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:32:16 -0500 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Musical humor Message-ID: <007301bf31fb$a04b3960$47ab889e@plymouth.edu>
> After slamming several beers in quick succession (as bass violinists are > prone to do), one of them looked at his watch. >"Hey! We need to get <snip> >bottom of the Ninth, the score is tied, and the bassists are loaded."
Dammit, AL! It's supposed to be tubas... just ask a tubist about slamming beers... We're renowned musical alcoholics...
Here's another one (yeah, cheesy):
Q. How many tuba players does it take to change a light bulb? A. Five. One to hold the light bulb, and four to drink until the room spins.
I'm off to either practice tuba or drink (or both) ;)
Regards, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua IRC: Mortua >
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:34:43 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Lars/Keyboard debate Message-ID: <19991118.113910.285.3.willeyatc@juno.com>
Gotta second that emotion Brian!!!
But, if you really think about it who is to say what good drumming is? it is all in what you like to listen to... there are so many factors you can pick from...
speed: yeah the drummer from green day was freakin fast but I didn't like his style... funk: Chad Smith rules in this area... he has his groove on... as for MP: he could probably handle most all of these areas without blinking an eye. I personally could care less about Lars but to some people he may seem "good"....
wow, i really rambled there....
later ytsejon
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:12:13 -0800 (PST) "Brian O'Brien" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> writes: > > Lars sucks. All you need to know is this: the band themselves say > that songs > tend to speed up in concert because Lars can't keep time. > > -Brian > > -- > > Each time I write lines for it, someone improvises it > life is so much cleaner on the page. > > -Kevin Moore >
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, ATC WSU
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:19:20 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5192 Message-ID: <19991118.113910.285.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
HE WAS JOKING!!! c'mon people... it was obviously a joke.. and someone even mentioned it was DS who wrote it???
ytsejon
> > > 2. I am so sick and tired of people worshiping MP. > > > He would certainly rank at the bottom of any music > > > lovers list of great drummers, if he even made my > > > list. He just cant compare with top notch drummers > > > like Lars Ulrich, Charlie Watts, Tommy Lee, Alex > > > Vanhalen or even Kid Rock. I saw a Kid Rock show, > > > and that man has the most energy behind the set in > > > the industry. > > Everyone has a right to their opinion, but MAN, this guy must be > smoking > crack! I am a drummer and to compare MP to Charlie Watts???? What is > the > color of the sky in your world? I think all of the above listed > drummers are > talented in their our right, but to say that these guys are superior > to MP > is nuts. > Good luck in getting in to re-hab. > > Mike >
ytseJon
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:41:47 -0500 From: Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Odd Time Sig Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.9911181439020.7649157-100000@mail1.ats.rochester.edu>
Try this one on for size:
In the first movement of "All In Twilight" for classical guitar by Toru Takemitsu, the time starts out in 2.5/8! It's actually kind-a easy. Sub-divide, sub-divide, sub-divide!!!
Ben
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:39:04 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Drummer Thread...WHY? Message-ID: <19991118.113910.285.4.willeyatc@juno.com>
Very nice Kurt!!! '
ytsejon
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:49:06 -0800 (PST) Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> writes: > > This is the one thing I can't stand more than anything else in the > world: > "my band is better than yours, they can play better" > This is total bullshit. If you are good enough to be in a band to > get a > record deal, first off you have to be a semi descent musician. True > someone can play odd time sigs, be really tight etc. etc. I don't > think > there is a true way to grade how good a drummer really is. There > have > been great drummers of past and present that aren't able to sit > behind a > huge kit and belt out snare hits tight as hell with a guitar. Ringo > Star > comes to behind. he was so fluent behind the kit, and his kit was a > toy > today. Another really fluent drummer that comes to mind today is > Morgan > Rose from Sevendust. I saw these guys live, and just seems so > relaxed, > and all over the place, but very tight. Let;'s get back to the > important thing here: the music not whose better. > > Kurt > NP-DT-OIALT (Just Let me Breathe) > > > > > "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on > going"-Doubledrive > New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out In Stores NOW! > "I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to live past 40"-Paul > Blocker > See Queensryche on Tour this fall! www.queensryche.com for latest > dates! > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
ytseJon
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dad's DT and Petrucci's Shred Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991118114740.27175A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
I've found a fool-proof way to get orchestra geeks (and geekettes) into DT... or at least to get them to stop making fun of you because you listen to DT...
Matt: Can I listen to a CD in the car? Geek: Sure. What are you putting in? Matt: Dream Theater Geek: I see... (confused look as he squeezes between a semi and a cow) Matt: (flips on OIALT to Petrucci's solo) Listen. You'll like this. Geek: (unimpressed) He sure can play fast. Matt: There's a part in here you can appreciate. (Petrucci starts playing Flight Of The Bumblebee) Geek: Holy shit. That fucker's on fire! Matt: Yeah, Peturcci's a god. Geek: No, that cow! Look! (both scream as they hit said flaming cow and die)
Another way to get people off your back about DT (especially your parents) is to mention certain key words in your "comments" as the music is playing. For example:
Matt: This is Dream Theater. Dad: Uh huh... (yawns) Matt: This new album is a *ROCK OPERA*. Dad: Really? (wakes up) Matt: Yeah. They have a nice *PINK FLOYD* vibe to them Dad: I see... cool. Matt: This part here reminds me of *LED ZEPPELIN*... Dad: Shut up, I'm listening.
Now... was thinking all this after a bottle of Chardonnay I had ben saving for a romantic dinner (but drank by myself last night when she dumped me for a bodybuilder from Uruguy named Sotero), but I've proven both to be effective in previous encounters... but m mind began wandering, and I thought to myself, "John Petrucci must be shredding all the live long day these days, to keep his chops up. I wonder if he'd ever OD on the shredding thing."
Like, if his wife started using only shredded cheeses in her cooking, or if he only ordered shredded beef tacos from Taco Bell, or if he started sharpening his claws on the curtains just to shred them, or...
But then I passed out. Funny how that happens.
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:08:02 +0200 From: "dreamer" <dreamer@otenet.gr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Drummers Message-ID: <001d01bf3200$9ef04b00$a2f5cdd4@dreamrealm>
> What kind of crack are you smoking??? The best five drummers > around right now in my opinion is, from 5-1, Brain (from Primus....don't know > his real name), The dude from Dave Matthew's (I must be getting old, because > his name completely slipped my mind), Mike Portnoy, Mark Zonder and Neil Peart >
Drummer of Primus: Tim "Herb" Alexander Drummer of Dave Matthew's Band: Carter Beauford
btw, Tim isn't playing in Primus anymore, but has his own band called Laundry in which he does the vocals too!
It's been a long time since I last posted, but somehow I felt a surge inside me :o) And while I'm at it, you just can't plainly say "these x drummers are the best around", because it's a subjective world...if someone suggests certain names as the "best" in business it's just because they suit better to their personal taste. God forbid if there was any "objective" criteria for musicianship...it's MUSIC and drumming is part of it.
The fact that I agree as to that these drummers are indeed great by no means can be accounted as "they're the best" or whatever.
Cheers, Aris
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:25:25 EST From: Scarred2112@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Kid Rock's drummer... Message-ID: <0.c74ac566.2565bab5@aol.com>
2. I am so sick and tired of people worshiping MP. > > He would certainly rank at the bottom of any music > > lovers list of great drummers, if he even made my > > list. He just cant compare with top notch drummers > > like Lars Ulrich, Charlie Watts, Tommy Lee, Alex > > Vanhalen or even Kid Rock. I saw a Kid Rock show, > > and that man has the most energy behind the set in > > the industry.
uhh...I surprised no one has mentioned to this person that the "that man" that has "the most energy behind the set in the industry" is a woman, Stefanie Eulinberg. Dude, if you were looking that closely, maybe you would have noticed THE BREASTS....
scarred2112, who always notices the breasts...
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