YTSEJAM Digest 5185
Today's Topics:
1) Brussels Concert
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
2)
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
3) Ayreon
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
4) Re: Brussels Concert
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
5) Re: Ayreon
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
6) Re: James on SFAM
by "Thomas Neubaum" <Thomas.Neubaum@jura.stud.uni-erlangen.de>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5184
by WAxlRose01@aol.com
8) missing
by Adrian K Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id>
9) Pink Floyd
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
10) Re: The Jammerz CD
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
11) Left Out to Hang in the LaBrie-ze
by MusicSnob@aol.com
12) re: James' singing
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
13) Mahir
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
14) Great cool music to hear for ya
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
15) Rhythm basics question
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
16) biggest tablature archive
by "Virgil Starkwell" <flandersland@sinectis.com.ar>
17) tiles
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
18) Re: Stevie Z Rocks the Blues (was Spelling)
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
19) Re: Pink Floyd (was: "spelling")
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
20) SFAM, Images And Words Best Album of the 90s
by "Don Compton" <soulmadness@hotmail.com>
21) MY TAKE ON THINGS
by MyrBones@aol.com
22) Fave DT albums...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
23) Q: Crowd performance @ DT Shows
by "Verhoef, Pieter-Joost" <Pieter-Joost.Verhoef@nl.origin-it.com>
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:52:42 +0100
From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Brussels Concert
Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4343@julia.um.be>
Hi all,
I saw the Brussels concert yesterday and I come home (?) with mixed
feelings... Maybe I expected too much of it and maybe that is why I am
disappointed about it, but still...
My impressions:
Only JR was smiling and seemed to have a good time, MP and JP looked
uninterested for most part of the gig - at a certain moment MP threw his
sticks backstage in an annoyed manner. JM is just doing his part as usual.
JL - always the same - so no comment. I think they played uninspired and not
really motivated - except for JR again... He is a great musician. It could
be a little too early on the tour and they possibly need a little more time.
As for the sound: 1. it was way TOO loud (I am used to something, but this
was really hurting). 2. All DT gigs I went to suffered from the same
problem: there are not enough keyboards in the mix. For me DTs music is more
than the JP shredding - they are not a hardcore band If I'm not mistaken -
and that was indeed all I heard yesterday. Keys are vital for this kind of
music. And they don't have enough room in the end mix. JR is too good a
musician and deserves more than being in JPs shadow. DTs records have
something subtle and for me there was not much left of that yesterday... I
see them again in two weeks and I hope it will be better !!!!!!!!!!!!
A little disappointed
HeinV
NP: SFaM in random mode until I get the songs in the correct order.
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:10:43 +0100
From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4345@julia.um.be>
<If I could, I'd put the Hollow Years single somewhere at the top. The Way
It
<Used To Be is one of Dream Theater's greatest songs.
I really don't see why all these people like this song. They did it again,
and IMHO it is just a waste of time, could better be replaced by new
material...
HeinV
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:43:46 +0100
From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Ayreon
Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4347@julia.um.be>
<I was wondering how many of you have heard Ayreon's "Into the Electric
<Castle". I received it in the mail the other day and have really enjoyed
it.
<The sound is fantastic, and the vocals are some of the best I've ever
heard.
<Especially Sharon Den Adel and Anneke Van Giersbergen. Beautiful!!!
There are two more CDs by Areon (Final EXperiment + ???)
Try them as well !
HeinV
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:15:49 +0100 (CET)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Brussels Concert
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9911131206060.11403-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Vandenabeele, Hein wrote:
> Only JR was smiling and seemed to have a good time, MP and JP looked
> uninterested for most part of the gig - at a certain moment MP threw his
Nope, I don't agree here... JP was just enourmously concentrated, but to
me it was very clear he WAS having a good time. I stood right in
front of hime and he was (subtlelly, I admit, but that's how he
is) interacting with the audience the whole time. Definitely NOT
uninterested...I mean, come on, at some points it was like he wanted to
GET into that guitar of his instead of just playing it.
> sticks backstage in an annoyed manner. JM is just doing his part as usual.
Yeah, but he changed sticks at least 3 or 4 times during the show, so why
not throw them away to create some sort of spectacular dramatic effect?
Unless he was throwing them at 'the mike-guy' of course:-)
> JL - always the same - so no comment. I think they played uninspired and not
See MY comment on KJLB in my previous post.
> As for the sound: 1. it was way TOO loud (I am used to something, but this
Now here I agree with you. I was standing right next to the speakers so I
thought it was just because I was so close... Seems it was too loud
overall...
> was really hurting). 2. All DT gigs I went to suffered from the same
> problem: there are not enough keyboards in the mix. For me DTs music is more
I second that. JR's solos were fantastic, but hard to be heard. It is only
because I really focused that I could make something out of it...
Oh yeah, Tiles didn't exactly grab my attention. Their singer has no
charisma whatsoever and I didn't really care for the music either.
Fortunately they only played for half an hour or so...
Cheers
Zaphod
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:18:09 +0100 (CET)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Ayreon
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9911131217430.11403-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Vandenabeele, Hein wrote:
> There are two more CDs by Areon (Final EXperiment + ???)
Actual Fantasy is what you're looking for.
Cheers
Zaphod
|Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man |
|zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be proved that black is white |
|zaphod@dreamtheater.zzn.com and got himself killed on |
|Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."|
|Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:32:23 +0100
From: "Thomas Neubaum" <Thomas.Neubaum@jura.stud.uni-erlangen.de>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: James on SFAM
Message-ID: <003a01bf2de4$86ade540$78f50a0a@sjthneub.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
I totally agree. IMO, James is definetely one of the most awesome and
expressive vocalists around and one couldn't appreciate this guy enough for
being part of DT. His voice is especially manifold. To get proof of that,
specifically listen to "One Last Time", "The spirit..." and FF. I'd even go
as far as saying that he belon gs to the top class of singers in
entertainment music - i.e. outside classical music - in general, since he is
also an excellent live performer. In fact, many people I know, who are not
quite into progressive or even rock music, like DT for his voice.
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:45:12 EST
From: WAxlRose01@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5184
Message-ID: <0.dc575fca.255ed378@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/13/99 4:48:37 AM, you wrote:
>Remember the thread about it seeming to some people as if FII never
>happened?
HAHAHAH you know what, I actually completely forgot to include it.. HAH..
That's funny. Well, in any case, it wouldn't be in any position of
consequence anyway. ;)
It's a good album, but it gets boring quickly.
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:00:00 +0700
From: Adrian K Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id>
To: ~status seekers <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: missing
Message-ID: <382D7CEC.186A66AB@indosat.net.id>
Even all the nice things that DT managed to put into SFAM can't make me
stop thinking that I've been missing something from it.
After some time, I start to get a picture of what it is, though I'm not
sure if I can describe this clearly enough, firstly because I don't know
much music theory and secondly because English is a second language to me.
IMHO, songwriting-wise, SFAM is not the best DT can do. Although there
are exciting parts everywhere, they're not very well 'glued'. And there
are parts that, IMHO, are dragging, or pushed a bit too far. Some of the
M1 references, seemed to me, a bit corny.
OK. I'm ready to die burning at the stake. :-)
PMU, TTT, Surrounded, WFS-LTL, A Mind Beside Itself, The Mirror-Lie,
Scarred, HK, they are what I think good examples of DT's best
songwriting efforts. If I could just make a synthesis of what is common
among these examples songwriting-wise, maybe something that works like a
datum, or whatever-it-is-called, I think I could be more specific about
what I think is lacking in SFAM. Unfortunately, I couldn't. I just wish
some people on the list with more knowledge and experience could
simplify what I was saying. On the other hand, maybe they could also
point it out if I'm just making a fool of myself. :-)
By the way, I'm also a metalhead and I still listen to Slayer, so why
the fuck should I complain? ;-)
-- pluki 8498006"You can fight without ever winning But never ever win without a fight"
-N. Peart
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:38:24 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Pink Floyd Message-ID: <382D85F0.FFDDF70E@mol.com.mk>
Think we had enough of Pink Floyd haters posts damn it! ;o( We don't care if you agree with someone hating Pink Floyd. We don't need your explanations how the music is so passive, how Gilmour was a lousy guitarist and he couldn't play a good solo for more than 10 seconds etc. That's your problem. If you can't recognize or at least respect (not liking) the greatness of Pink Floyd then SHUT UP and don't make stupid threads! And grow up will ya?
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: The Jammerz CD Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991113100054.25813A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
DTGirl2612@aol.com wrote:
>>From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> >> >>The Jammers' CD is Dead. Long Live the Jammers' CD. >>I was ready to go with it -- I got one submission from Nikki Brooks. >>Everybody ese promised me stuff but never sent it. Such is the way >>with jammers. >> > >Now that IS a shame - perhaps they are all mouth and no trousers. Call >yerselves musicians so get off yer arses and make some music ...... > >(Those who can, do ....) > >What was the contribution from Nikki Brooks like? >
It wa wonderful -- an instrumental track with lots of wordless vocalizing. The song was called "Storm" (it's the third song off her album if you have it). She has a nice Annie Lennox feel to her vocals. Actually, the whole labum has a bit of a Eurythmics feel (old, not new) to it. Good stuff!
>>But then, the song I wanted to submit was 20 minutes long, and it would >>have made some people mad. ^_^ > >With envy, delight or boredom? >
I hope the first two, I expect the third. It's proggy in a Yes style. I couldn't find people who wanted to play it *and* who could *and* who'd stick around for more than fifteen minutes per practice.
> >>I'd be willing to try it again (still?) but only if I can seize more >>control of the project. I tend to work with a smile if everything's >>done my way... ^_^ > >But would anyone else actually make an effort this time (apart from that >Nikki Brooks person of course)? >
Nah. Probably not.
--Matt (if anybody wants to try and long-distance record my song, I can send them a MIDI... e-mail me for more info.)
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:26:27 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Left Out to Hang in the LaBrie-ze Message-ID: <0.ccd000f0.255f0753@aol.com>
Someone wrote about James: >Wow. I'm honestly shocked that anyone DOESN'T like James.
Count one here. I am sure James is a swell fellow and all, but I can do without his vocals.
>He's gotta be the best vocalist I think I've ever heard.
Time to expand your collection to include such vocalists as Alder, Tate, Khan, Cooper, Halford, Dickinson, Allen, Dio, etc.
>The feeling he can put into the music is absolutely incredible.
Totally subjective, so I have to respect your opinion, although I disagree strongly.
>His vocal range may be matched by others, if not surpassed (though not by many), >but his intensity is second to none.
As for his range, I can only say that I truly enjoy James' vocals ONLY when he stays way DOWN in the register, such as SDV, etc...
NP: Yngwie Malmsteen - Alchemy
Kevin
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: James' singing Message-ID: <19991113191557.27130.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com>
"Lee Wilson" <devnull@ad1440.net> wrote:
> Wow. I'm honestly shocked that anyone DOESN'T like James. He's > gotta be the best vocalist I think I've ever heard.
Ah, the old James singing issue. Let me recap:
- Some people bash James' singing style, just because it is "out of style". With all the hip-hop and low growling, James sounds too much like a relic from the 80's to some people.
- Some people have bashed James for live performances. I think this is mostly from earlier tours.
- Some people wish he would keep his tongue in his mouth when singing live (ok, maybe that's only me). ;)
Personally, I like his singing style, and I think he sounds good enough live (when you can hear the vocals). I'm all for making the best music possible in the studio, and worry about how it will work live later. There's no reason that it needs to sound identical to the studio in a live setting. A little variation makes the live experience more than just listening to the cd again.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:31:00 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mahir Message-ID: <382D9244.98FFB170@mol.com.mk>
> From: Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com> > Subject: U.S. Tour Rumor > > P.S.-For those who already know about the Mahir > phenomenon, WHY DIDN'T YOU POST SOMETHING HERE > SOONER!?! :)
Because Skadz would kill me! :)
Anyway, I was literary DYING LAUGHING while seeing those pictures! :) And I bet all you western folks can't really grasp the stuff, because you don't really know how Eastern redneck looks like! :) LOLOLOL, can you see the change on every picture, he looks sillier and sillier. It's like he's taken out of some comic book! Can you believe it, over a million visits on that site in the first week or so!!! I think it is a world record. Newspapers, TV stations gave reports on it already.
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:02:56 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Great cool music to hear for ya Message-ID: <382D8BB0.358F542E@mol.com.mk>
I layed my hands on this cool CD: Armen Chakmakian - Ceremonies.
A pal brought it from USA. For a beginning here is some text from the cover: "Armen Chakmakian, keyboardist from the Grammy-Award winning band Shadowfax, creates a tapestry of captivating and vibrant sounds on his debut solo release, CEREMONIES. His signature sound, a masterful weave of passionate piano, with Middle-Eastern flavors, exotic world rhythms and jazz textures, can ultimately be described as New World Jazz. The celebratory nature of the music crosses genres and cultural boundaries striking a common chord within each of us. To create this rich and rhythmic synergy, he has assembled an array of stellar instrumentalists:
Armen Chakmakian - piano, synths, percussion Alex De Grassi - acoustic guitars Djivan Gasparyan - duduk, zurna, vocal John Bilezikjian - oud Doug Lunn - electric bass Stu Nevitt - drums set, percussion Andy Abad - acoustic guitar, tres Ramon Yslas - percussion Martin Flores - drum set, percussion Andre Harutyunyan - percussion Greg Ellis - percussion Susan Chakmakian - hand claps "
This is really some great music. And even though the overall vibe is world music / ethnic themes, kill me but there are some progressive spices in there! :) Especially the drums and the bass - oh boy they're good. Naturally the drums play interesting rhythms since most of the Middle East, exotic folklore music has those weird signatures and rhtyhms. Definitely check this CD out.
> From: WAxlRose01@aol.com > > SFAM > IAW > LATM > OIAL > ACOS > WDADU
What the hell was that!!! :) Just imagine what would non-jammer think if he reads this? He-he!
And oh yeah, DTGirl2612 reminded me of something about the Pink Floyd thing going on here. Since the jammers like DT and one of the biggest influences and fave bands of DT is Pink FLoyd - YOU LOOSE punks. At least think twice before judging PF (Democracy really sucks sometimes)
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:10:14 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Rhythm basics question Message-ID: <382D8D66.169C6791@mol.com.mk>
Well, ... as musically uneducated one, have mercy on me.
I'm in a Zappa period now, so I heard this live song, where Zappa speaks on the beginning and says the rhythm goes 5/8/4/4. At first I thought "What the hell 5844?"
But than he sings it:
. . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 , 1 2 1 2 3 1 2 3 4
So I go, "Aha, so the first one is 5/8, OK I see it, and than the regular 4/4" But, is there a rhythm that is named 5844, which is (obviously) a combination of the 2?
Also, ... one stupid question: OK, I see the 5 pattern in the 5/8 rhythm, and the 7 and the 9 in the 7/8 and 9/8, but where the hell is the 8? :)
1 2 1 2 3 is the 5 in the 5/8 but how do I count the 8? How will I know it's 5/8 and not ummm 5/16? Stop laughing and help me out here. :)
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:26:12 -0300 From: "Virgil Starkwell" <flandersland@sinectis.com.ar> To: "Ytsejam List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: biggest tablature archive Message-ID: <000701bf2e30$597f8320$d40e33c8@matute>
CHeck! the biggest Dream Theater tablature archive at http://www.underargentinaskies.com.ar Much bigger than the official site!
See ya!!
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:32:53 CET From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: tiles Message-ID: <19991114003254.60640.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi all, reading your thoughts about tiles was very interesting, but first of all, that guitarist looked like he was the tech, filling in and being shy. secondly, almost every song had a riff with a little chromatic piece, ending in a chord, repeated 257 times before and after every verse. imo that's boring. i am not saying i need stage presence, but when the voice doesn't fit the music(halloween meets living color), i am sorry, i don't get into it. the bass player plays funky, so doesn'd that guitar guy get his ass moving? doesn' want to sweat his ironed silk shirt? to me they were boring and i'd say that if they were support for foo fighters, too. btw, i just worked at a gig hellacopters(sweden) and foo fighters and though it was a short show, those two bands just rocked the house. too bad i had to work. later seb
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:52:24 +0100 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Stevie Z Rocks the Blues (was Spelling) Message-ID: <382E23E8.86B4C7CA@home.se>
DTGirl2612@aol.com wrote:
> Ugh the Spice Grills (intentional mis-spelling) > If ANY of them HAD any talent worth mentioning .........
Mel C (sporty spice) has a really good voice. There, I mentioned it.
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet [ http://sdts.cjb.net ] [ mailto:sdts@home.se ]
- Don't talk unless you can improve the silence -
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:52:32 +0100 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Pink Floyd (was: "spelling") Message-ID: <382E23F0.87AB96B5@home.se>
DTGirl2612@aol.com wrote:
> >From: Brian Deuel <bdeuel@pathwaynet.com> > > >Man, do I ever agree with you. Even when I WAS a druggie, they put me = to > >sleep. They were boring, and will always BE boring. > > Would it surprise you to know that DSOTM is John Petrucci's fave Floyd = album > then? (She smirked)
What does that have to do with anything?
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet [ http://sdts.cjb.net ] [ mailto:sdts@home.se ]
- Never trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die -
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 21:32:01 PST From: "Don Compton" <soulmadness@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM, Images And Words Best Album of the 90s Message-ID: <19991114053201.16796.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey, I don't post too much but I just thought I'd tell everyone that I updated my homepage at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/4934 Nothing professional there- just a page full of heavy metal reviews and such. I did add a new review of Dream Theaters Scenes From A Memory (by the way, I watched Dead Again today.....if you liked SFAM, watch this movie) and I also tallied up the votes for the best albums of the 90s and right now Dream Theaters Images And Words is in the lead......I am still accepting votes until the end of December though. Just send your top 25 favorite albums of the 90s to webit@iinc.com A friendly reminder though: DON'T send them to this list. Thanks and sorry to clutter the jam
Don Compton
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:48:24 EST From: MyrBones@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: MY TAKE ON THINGS Message-ID: <0.d00d1710.255fb538@aol.com>
I have a few issues that i would like to address to you knowedgable jammers. The first is this: can someone please explain to me why the main guitar focal point on Explorer's Club was JP and not Steve Howe. Surely we can all agree that JP's whole career has, is , and will always be playing catch up to Steve Howe.
I also noticed that a lot of people have been putting on their album rankings. Well here is mine..... WDADU FII OIaLT ACoS LATM AWAKE I&W SFaM
I just think that the guitar playing has gotten worse and worse over time.....he use to be so creative in songs like Status Seeker and Light Fuse and Get Away.. where did the creativity go?? ALso, am i the only one who believes that Charlie Dominici was a quality vocalist? Now that man has talent....Why did they drop him? Look at songs like The Killing HAnd, he hits such amazing notes, such amazing range.... Enough about WDADU, their best work ever. And i also think that its time to roll back the clock to 1986-87, when Majesty dominated the music scene. Never again will music like that be produced. Now that was cleary when Portnoy was in his prime!!!!!!!!!! He's been downhill ever since. Now you all know how i feel about DS. and how he was the backbone of DT. He made them what they are today. FII is their best work since WDADU, and Majesty. JR cant even compare the stylings of DS.
Just my thoughts. Am i the only one who feels that DS was a sex icon for the band, they needed that, and now they dont have that. No more sex appeal means i dont buy the albums. Hence why i dont yet own SFaM. c-ya
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:08:18 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Fave DT albums... Message-ID: <000901bf2e6f$0b83d560$560d84d0@safelink.net>
Shit my fave DT albums in order are... Ocean Machine - Biotech... Infinity... Vai - Sex and Religion... SYL - Heavy as a Really Heavy Thing... SYL - City... (Honorable mention: Natural Science on Working Man) -- KorgX3 loves both DT's.
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:34:50 +0100 From: "Verhoef, Pieter-Joost" <Pieter-Joost.Verhoef@nl.origin-it.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Q: Crowd performance @ DT Shows Message-ID: <B13A246878CBD0118B6300805FC14755A7C14C@nldhx001.dhajvn.nl.origin-it.com>
People,
On the Dutch DT-list we have had a discussion on the (lack of) responsiveness from the concert-crowd. I was personally blown away (positively) with the performance but in the same way (negatively) with the lack of respons from the crowd. Maybe a handclap and some singin-along, but definitely no 'roof shaking' performance on the part of the crowd.
Is it always like that? Are people just too much involved in the techniques of the players? Is it really that hard to jump around, let alone MOVE, to his music? I'm considering going to a show in Luxembourg to check it out personally. Now I feel I have all the energy I came with to the show left inside. Maybe it'll come out on the road and I'll end up collecting speeding tickets! Best protect myself ;-)
Other than that, the show was HUGE! It was my first concert, but this blows away anything I have ever seen ANYBODY do on stage. I still think there must have been a tape/minidisc running along, cuz this stuff is UNREAL!
What is your experience: slow crowds, or jumping crowds @ concerts?
regards pj
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