YTSEJAM Digest 5173
Today's Topics:
1) 21st Century Schizoid Man and stuff
by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
2) SfaM in Minneapolis...
by Pedro Garza <pgarza@FS.COM.MX>
3) Home?
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
4) Re: S.O.D. live
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5162
by Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
6) Re: Yet another couple of SFaM interpretations...
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
7) The Killing Hand...!
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
8) Re: Dr. Mindbender
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
9) the dregs
by Dustro2@aol.com
10) Stupid toys that destroy young minds.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic
by rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
12) Through Her Eyes question
by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
13) Guten BAH! :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5165
by Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
15) The death scene...
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
16) Some reviews I found
by "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5172
by "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
18) Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra
by Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
19) Virgil Donati Drum Clinic on East Coast
by "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com>
20) RE: Virgil Donati Drum Clinic on East Coast
by Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com>
21) SFaM rules!
by BOBA67@aol.com
22) Re: The death scene...
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
23) The HypnoMan
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
24) RE: JFK Jr.
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
25) Young Child .......
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
26) Subject: Jaye Foucher?
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
27) Falling Into Infinity ....
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
28) Subject: the old man is ?
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:11:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: 21st Century Schizoid Man and stuff
Message-ID: <19991105161134.4858.rocketmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com>
> I've always thought one of the most definitive
[prog] songs was 21st Century
Schizoid Manoff
Court of the Crimson King. <
On an interesting side-bar, April Wine of all bands
did a cover of this song on their '79 album 'Harder,
Faster'. Interesting how a 'normal' 70's-80's guitar
band would cover something prog, eh?
Hey, are there any fans in the Reno/Sparks NV area?
Please email me privately.
-Dan
=====
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Hobbes: Pittsburgh?
Calvin: You mean if we're good or if we're bad?
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:12:48 -0600
From: Pedro Garza <pgarza@FS.COM.MX>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: SfaM in Minneapolis...
Message-ID: <5593CEFB8422D21181D600A024A3D2FB131CDE@fs.com.mx>
Hi there!
I'm off for a week in Minneapolis and am wondering if here are any
ytsejamers who know where could I find SfaM in any store there... any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Pete
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:24:45 +0100
From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Home?
Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E621070F83F6@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
question: which film music have Dream Theater often used before
coming on stage? Answer: theme from A Clockwork Orange. Question:
what was the name of the house in the film A Clockwork Orange
in which the ultra-violence and the
old in-out took place? Answer: Home. So, now it's easy to figure
out the end of the album. Our hero goes to his house, his head now
clear of all things schizo, only to have 7 different colours of shit
kicked out of him by Alex and his droogs who are paying one of their
surprise visits. It's so simple - why didn't any of you lot come
up with this before?
I think I need a big drink...
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
Curently playing: Tri Yann - En Concert
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:33:09 -0200
From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: S.O.D. live
Message-ID: <382306C5.10BBA56A@uol.com.br>
NuGgeTMaN wrote:
> I think I would completely wet myself if they did that one...or possibly
> "Ode to Shannon Hoon" those would be perfect!!! :)
Hahaha!! :D Yeah, imagine then Billy Milano dancing around the stage
dressed as a bee while Scott plays that stupid song... :)) YOU're DEAD
TOO!! :)
[]'s
Cassiano
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:01:30 -0500
From: Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5162
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991105120130.006d375c@pop.geneseo.edu>
Hello everyone!
>[Babs]> I believe the JFK Jr. bit at the end is to more or less just
symbolize how the sins of our fathers, get passed to the next generation<
>
>And just what sins, prey tell, did JFK commit that his son would have to
pay for with his life? At least, that's the impression i get from your
post, which continued with;
Whoah! Easy dude. I know that the written word sometimes leaves things as
sounding rude, but honestly that was not my intent. I'm trying to find the
a clear way to get out what I wanted to imply. More like it "appears" that
certain families seem to have a "curse". Just something that can't be
explained. The Kennedy family certainly has it's share.
>
>>Like the lyrics emply "our deeds have traveled far, what we have been is
what we are. All that we learn this time, is carried beyond this life" <
>Which, as i read them, have nothing to do with the father/son connection.
It sounds more like the connection between souls in different incarnations,
karma and all that good stuff we'll never understand......
True. I personally don't believe in reincarnation, but I do believe in
genetic traits being passed from generation to generation. So when people
say they've seen someone from their past, I believe it's possible "in their
mind" to feel some sort of connection. I also believe that there are
certain people who seem to have a sixth sense. I feel these people are
just born with a heightened awareness of it, I don't think that you can
take a one-day seminar and be a psychic. Ok, I'll stop now because I
don't wish to offend anybody, this is just my particular viewpoint.
>Sounds to me like it's mostly a point-in-time reference, telling us the
time-frame in which that particular part of the story takes place.
I'm kind of puzzled at this. I always got a vibe from Met. Pt 1 that it
was more of a Greek myth type of thing. This changeover to 1928 time seems
like a big time jump. SFaM is great, I absolutely love Jame's voice on
this. Tells a good story. Just kind of puzzled on a few things, but who
isn't eh?
Babs
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:18:44 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Yet another couple of SFaM interpretations...
Message-ID: <38231174.352728F1@home.com>
Dave said:
> With that said, when Edward shot the first two shits, it hit Julian in the
> back while he was on top of Victoria!
I think you're forgetting that it was set up to look like a
murder-suicide. The cops wouldn't have thought that Julian was having
sex with Victoria, then shot her (while they were still in the act),
then committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the back! :)
I do think Edward probably killed them sometime just after perhaps.
- Joe D.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:38:16 -0600
From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The Killing Hand...!
Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CC2E@bham-xchg>
Ok,
So everytime I listen to SFAM, Strange Deja Vu, right at the end
when James screams "Hope to find the truth..." I keep wanting them to go
into The Killing Hand, that opening riff would kick arse right there... Now
this is all well and good, except my mind goes there everytime (and so will
yours now..aha..aha...ha..haaa...haaa..HAAA....!)
ho hum...
Dave (a UK jammer).
NP: TDOE (no not the instrumental, the bootleg...!)
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:45:39 -0500 (EST)
From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Dr. Mindbender
Message-ID: <199911051746.MAA2624237@gl.umbc.edu>
> >> Maybe Nicholas is really Duke of GI Joe and the Hypnotherapist is
> really
> >> that lame Cobra Hypnotist guy who had the psychadelic shield.
>
> >Dr. Mindbender.
>
> The guy you're talking about it not Dr. Mindbender. I forget his name -
> but i know who you mean. He had a black mustache, and no shirt, and
> there were always 30 of him at the toy store because he was so sucky.
Are you sure? I am almost certain that the cobra hypnotist, the guy with
the bald head, the psychadelic shield, the guy who masterminded the
creation of Serpentor WAS, in fact, Dr. Mindbender. If not, of whom am I
thinkng? Again, I'm pretty sure that it was Dr. Mindbender.
> Yeah, but I think even the keystone bonehead cops back in those days
> wouldn't consider it a suicide when the suspect is found with a hold in his
> back and his cock still in the supposed victim. hehehe. But that's just
> me. :) Eddie could have always paid them off. :)
something I was thinking of the other day: Wouldn't Edward have to, after
shooting Julian and Victoria, put the gun in Julians hand and fire it?
You know, to make sure that Julian had the discharge on his hand?
you know, that is assuming they were shot and not stabbed. ;)
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:09:13 EST
From: Dustro2@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: the dregs
Message-ID: <0.caaca50a.25547749@aol.com>
ok i dont know much about the dregs or spocks beard...could someone help me
out here??? which album do i buy first?? e-mail me if u want..
thanks,
Dustro
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:09:35 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Stupid toys that destroy young minds.
Message-ID: <001201bf27b8$ec7f61a0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>Are you sure? I am almost certain that the cobra hypnotist, the guy with
>the bald head, the psychadelic shield, the guy who masterminded the
>creation of Serpentor WAS, in fact, Dr. Mindbender. If not, of whom am I
>thinkng? Again, I'm pretty sure that it was Dr. Mindbender.
Aye. Dr. Mindbender was the mastermind behind the creation of Serpentor,
but there was another guy who came with a hypno-shield. Dr. Mindbender was
more of an "evil scientist" type. This other guy was one of the lame
creations that were perpetuated around that time. He was like called Dr.
Hypno or something. I think he came out at the same time as Raptor, who I
thought was really lame as well. :P
But that's right, he had a black moustache and black hair. Dr. Mindbender,
I remember came with a nifty brain manipulation device, this other guy just
came with the hokey shield.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:18:43 -0800 From: rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic Message-ID: <38231F7E.3D817244@earthlink.net>
Just heard about this on the radio, and this comes off the VH website:
November 5, 1999 - Every day there is a new rumour about Van Halen going around the Internet. Today is no exception. However, unlike most days, the rumour making the rounds today is being reported almost everywhere. The rumour reads like this: Gary Cherone has left Van Halen after three
years to pursue new musical adventures (Source: E! Online) The story is also being reported by MTV News, Billboard and the Hollywood Reporter. As we all know, it's not every day that a singer leaves Van Halen. Something as big as this is usually accompanied by a press release. None has been forthcoming so far.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:45:58 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Through Her Eyes question Message-ID: <19991105184558.29085.qmail@hotmail.com>
>What do y'all suppose the lyrics "And I know what it's like/ To lose >someone you love" means? I noticed this a couple of listens ago and it >struck me as odd - what loved ones do you suppose Nicholas has lost? I >suppose that a parent or both >parents would count - but it seems more like he talking about someone like >a wife or a child. Any thoughts? Perhaps he had a sibling killed. Or even a twin brother... The plot thickens further! :)
Si
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:50:30 -0600 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guten BAH! :) Message-ID: <38237B56.1D70C988@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Trent:
> thing is unlikely. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my > old age (18 yrs) but I can't help but think that DT > placing so high is anything more than a fluke. I'm
"But I'll enjoy the ride today" even at 38
:)
Arash: > Germany is not like USA. The most people dosen't go with the wind (at least in the music scene). > > Hip Hop, Grunge, Alternative and the other shitty trends are comming form USA.
Yep, guess we're holding a gun to those peoples' heads over there commanding them to buy into those trends, eh? So much for them not "going with the wind" ;) Good thing you got someone like the USA to blame, anyways. A German sheep still utters the same sound "BAH" does't it? Thought so :)
Now who do *I* blame for this Euro-Trash scene that seems to be infecting ye ole Red, White and Blue? These thick-heeled shoes that women are wearing are starting to piss me off! <grin> Wonder if humans can fly if the .50cal aimed properly at a pair of Sketcher's?.....:P I could go on, but I'm late for my Ignorance Anonymous class...
Trevor: > I just bought Mahavishnu Orchestra-Birds of Fire and I really like it.
I suggest "Inner Mounting Flame"
TGIFF,
Jon
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:59:03 -0500 From: Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5165 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991105135903.006da1ec@pop.geneseo.edu>
>I'm just going on the notion that Ed The Miracle, >Julian The Sleeper, and Victoria were all children >during Met Pt.1...were they not? > >Later, >-Raf-
But remember - we're always somebody's "children" - no matter how old we are! So there's no way to pinpoint the ages of the Miracle and the Sleeper. I keep thinking of the last few lines of Met. Pt 1 (which will always be my favorite DT tune)- "Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles, she's taken you to your home. It can only take place when the struggle between our children have ended - now the Miracle and the Sleeper know that the third is love. Love is the dance of eternity"
For me, my response is that Met Pt. 1 always ended on a positive note - starts out morbid, but has a hopeful ending. Whereas SFaM does just the opposite, starts out calm, ends on a sour note (no pun intended).
Man, I think I've posted more in the last 7 days than I have in 3 or 4 years (big laugh).
Babs
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:07:39 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The death scene... Message-ID: <19991105190739.15572.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
"Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> wrote:
> First off, people are all fussing about WHO fell on WHOM in the murder > scene. The clincher though, is we forget that at the time of murder, Julian > and Victoria were very likely being caught IN THE ACT!
Now you're much closer to my theory on the death scene. Here it is (I have extrapolated a bit):
- Victoria tells Edward she's leaving him. She doesn't tell him why or who her new lover is. ("He'd kill his brother if he only knew.")
- Edward can't take it. He's the one who's really crazy (obsessed) about Victoria. (As opposed to Julian, who is probably just back for a little fun). Edward writes the suicide note for himself. He's going to kill himself.
- The "home" that keeps coming up is surrounded by gravel pathways. We hear this in the sound effects. It is where Edward and Victoria live, and is the same house that Nick ends up living in when he is old. This is where the murder occurs, on a "pathway out of view" near the house. This is where Victoria and Julian plan on meeting.
- Edward is sitting in the house, contemplating what angle to put the pistol in his mouth. He hears some noise outside, and walks out with the gun in his hand. He still doesn't know that Victoria is going back with Julian.
- He comes upon Julian and Victoria. The first gasp is Edward, realizing what is going on.
- Edward and Julian start a struggle. Julian has a knife. As they struggle, the gun goes off once in the air. The gun goes off again, pops Julian in the head.
- Victoria screams and closes her eyes.
- Edward is in a blind rage now. Looks at Victoria so distraught over Julian, says "Open your eyes Victoria", and plugs her a couple of times.
- Ed goes back in the house.
- Julian is not quite dead yet (some people even survive shots to the head.) He crawls over to Victoria "one last time".
- In the house, Ed feels better now, his demons are exorcised (at least in this life...). He goes back out and plants his own suicide letter on Julian. Gets the police and gives his eyewitness account.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:53:47 -0600 From: "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Some reviews I found Message-ID: <002b01bf27c7$8255cee0$8511640a@sbgnet.com>
Reviews for OFB's new CD that I found...
why do they let people that hate a band review them?
http://www.metaljudgment.com/albums/current.html
I saw Steve Vai last nite... and damn, Mike Mangini sure rocks! I'm going again in Milwaukee tomorrow night. Also Mike Kenneally plays in Vai's band... that's 2 from Mullmuzzler! hehehe. Great show! If you don't have anything to do on 11/6 in Milwaukee... go see this show at the Rave!
out!
MattyMo mattymo@mattymo.com
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:00:51 -0500 From: "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5172 Message-ID: <199911052002.MAA03187@fugazi.torchsong.com>
---------- >From: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5172 >Date: Fri, Nov 5, 1999, 10:50 AM >
>Ever the pessimist, I have to say that (while >definitley possesing the possibility to happen) such a >thing is unlikely. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my >old age (18 yrs) but I can't help but think that DT >placing so high is anything more than a fluke. I'm >not trying to offend anyone here, but how many N'Suck >and Backdoor Boys fans can you picture listening to >either version of "Home"? I can't. And I don't think >it's likely to happen (and I'm by no means >complaining). DT probably aren't going to compromise >everything they've worked so hard for up to now just >to have a hit record. I'd love to be wrong, but I >think #60 is as high as we'll ever DT go. But hey, 73 >is definitley good. How high did the rest of DT's >catalog place on the Billboard? Anyone know?
im not sur ehow the rest of the catalog placed, but dont forget that this is based on sales from internet stores such as CDNOW.COM and other stores that have been pre-ordering SFAM for a few weeks now. all of those pre orders are saved until after the record is released and are counted as first week sales. look at the other billboard charts and the showing isnt as high, but i am not at all surprised that the new CD placed that high in the first week as the band has a tremendous internet following.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.991105123549.24882A-100000@rock.cds.caltech.edu>
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> > > I just bought Mahavishnu Orchestra-Birds of Fire and I really like it. > Any other suggestions for MO cds? Get "Inner Mounting Flame." The stuff is pretty similar to Birds of Fire (more revolutionary fusion:)).
Anyway, I've noticed that BoF and IMF seem to get recommended more often than other MO CDs. They also happen to be the only two MO CDs that I own. Somebody once told me that another album (called "Visions of the Emerald Beyond", or something like that) was also pretty good, but I've never heard it.
Younis Hilal------------------------yhilal@cds.caltech.edu
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:43:26 -0500 From: "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Virgil Donati Drum Clinic on East Coast Message-ID: <s822fb34.022@weidmuller.com>
Hey,
Just thought I'd let you people know, if you live near Richmond, VA, = Virgil is holding a FREE drum clinic at Richmond Music Center. If you are = interested and don't know where the place is, just e-mail me and I'll hook = you up.
Kevin Rackley Official Soul Reason Website http://members.home.net/soulreason
Currently in the car's changer:
1.) Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory 2.) Iron Maiden - Caught Somewhere In Time=20 3.) Empty Tremor - Apocolokyntosys 4.) Virgil Donati - Stretch 5.) Queensryche - Empire 6.) Rush - Exit Stage Left
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:50 -0500 From: Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Virgil Donati Drum Clinic on East Coast Message-ID: <FB6DDB4A76FED21181170090273C5FA8BEB70B@atlmisech1.harbinger.com>
Anybody know where I can find a list of all clinic dates?
Thanks,
Shane Hunziker Harbinger Customer Support -------------------------------------- "You can find all you need in your mind If you take the time."--Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:54:23 EST From: BOBA67@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFaM rules! Message-ID: <0.89dc63bd.2554ac0f@aol.com>
I am a huge DT fan. I have truly enjoyed every cd. They are all so different, I don't want to compare them. I LOVED Images and Words. My hubby and I heard it at a club every time we went to see this Journey/Queensryche/Kansas cover band several years ago. We finally went out and bought it. Wow! Then we purhcased Awake and WDaDU. I was stunned by the difference from one cd to the next. It was amazing. By the time ACoS came out and the FII, we were completely hooked. We saw them twice in Chicago while they were Touring into Infinity. I could hardly stand myself waiting for the new cd. WOW again!!! It awes me. It just begs to be played and played and played. It's cool to watch a band like DT grow and change from cd to cd.
I for one have liked the diversity from Kevin to Derrick to Jordan. They all brought different features to the band, but essentially, they are all VERY talented. I have loved all of the LTE stuff, the MULLMUZZLER, the Platypus, etc. I have had nothing in my cd player for the last couple of weeks, except SFaM or some album with some member of DT. That is pure enjoyment.
Thanks, guys, for another cd. It truly rocks like the rest if them. See ya in the Windy City!!!
Another avid DT fan of the female persuasion,
BEEOTCH!
NP: DT - Awake
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: The death scene... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9911051750050.13051-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Brian Hansen wrote:
> - Julian is not quite dead yet (some people even > survive shots to the head.) He crawls over to Victoria > "one last time".
exactly! i really dont think they were having sex, i think the "one last time, we lay down today" meant them lying on the ground together, dying. what would you feel, if you and your lover were both lying on the ground, looking into each other's eyes, as you faded into darkness? i think that has a much stronger effect than "they had sex". moo.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:02 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The HypnoMan Message-ID: <0.599564a7.2554bfaa@aol.com>
>From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
>the voice is australian.. has a definate australian accent.. not myung > >>-Here's a nice twist. The hynotherapist's voice may be the voice of >John >>Myung. That's why most people don't recognize the voice.
Actually Terry Brown is English Canadian ......
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:17:58 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: JFK Jr. Message-ID: <0.609b91a7.2554bfa6@aol.com>
>From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com>
<<[Babs] I believe the JFK Jr. bit at the end is to more or less just symbolize how the sins of our fathers, get passed to the next generation>>
>And just what sins, prey tell, did JFK commit that his son would have to pay >for with his life? At least, that's the impression i get from your post,
Marilyn Monroe for starters!!! Someone thought he was evil enough to shoot him. Was it a hit job? Anyone know the actual full story here? Who knows what crimes a family have committed over the generations. It is called Vendetta in Italian!
]From what I have heard the whole family has been 'unlucky' in the past. Wasn't Bobby Kennedy also shot and didn't someone have a go at Teddie at some time? Got it in the arm I seem to remember.....
And as for Bill Clinton - well all I can say is flavoured cigars! 8-p
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:01 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Young Child ....... Message-ID: <0.bd97dea1.2554bfa9@aol.com>
<<Larry Odneal sez: p.s. If you don't believe in reincarnation, then how do you explain child prodigies?>>
>[eriC] said >This isn't like _Dune_. Child prodigies aren't born with an innate sense of >language and information. Sure, they develop it very quickly, but they don't >plop out of the womb reciting poems.
Hmm beg to differ! I have a photo of myself playing the piano at about 1 year old (except that my paws were a bit small then)!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:02 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: Jaye Foucher? Message-ID: <0.be949223.2554bfaa@aol.com>
]From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
>anyone heard of Jaye Fucher? I never heard anything by her but it seems that >she`s some bad-ass prog rock guitar player. Anyhow... her favorite shredder >is Mr.Petrucci... and her favorite albums are Images & Words and Awake... go >girls! We need some more prog chicks in our clan! :-))
Aye that we do - but what if she was on the Jam under an alias? She would get ignored and contradicted methinks, unless she started talking about 25 inch rubber dildos or hallucinogens of course .....
Also check out guitarist Jennifer Batten - she played superb guitar synth stuff (and her usual two handed tapping) on the recent Jeff Beck tour of the UK
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:04 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Falling Into Infinity .... Message-ID: <0.64466d27.2554bfac@aol.com>
>SJ Dodd wrote >p.s., I remember saying that maybe Vic's the bad girl, it's just that the >story's told from her side... >Damn right! Let the bitch burn! :)
Hehehehe and so it continues: SHE burns so HE burns so SHE burns so HE burns - ad infinitum - and there you have it, the origin of the title 'Falling Into Infinity!
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:03 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: the old man is ? Message-ID: <0.568f9b27.2554bfab@aol.com>
>From: JamesAhab@aol.com >Bare with me for a moment.
Absolutely NOT if you really are an OLD man (hehehehehehe) Sexist one for the girlies .......
:-)
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