YTSEJAM Digest 5136
Today's Topics:
1) Prog music suggestions
by "Manolis Samarakis" <samarakis@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
2) Re: Other Stuff
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
3) Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff) ***SPOILER***
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
4) Re: How do you pronounce...
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@cafe.ee>
5) hellborg/jens
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 5135
by administrator@itsyourlife.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5135
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
8) Re: SFAM Release!!!
by Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au>
9) The new album/live/poll 99
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
10) Happy Christmas Eve
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
11) Die American Scum...
by "Pye, Adam" <apye@kcc.com>
12) ATTN fans of Nathan Mahl, The Hand Farm, Finneus Gauge
by "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5126
by "Webb, Ryan M." <RWebb@spectrapoint.com>
14) Re: Other Stuff
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
15) Dream Theater rarity?
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
16) Re: Mikw Portnoy interview on WBAB
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
17) Vanden Plas
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
18) the veil...
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
19) Radio edits; Hendrix; DT album sales?
by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
20) SFaM
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
21) Lots: Thanks, Ozric
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
22) JLB/Jon Anderson/high vocals
by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
23) SFaM In CDnow Top 10!!! *Album cover spoilers!!!*
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
24) cdnow update
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
25) Re: 98 Rock in Baltimore
by crow <crow@ccpl.carr.org>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:00:15 +0300
From: "Manolis Samarakis" <samarakis@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Prog music suggestions
Message-ID: <199910250055151@samarakis.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Since I am relatively new in the whole prog (metal) music thing, I would like to have a few suggestions from people who know. Which groups are the best to begin with and what albums should I look for?
Don't tell me DT! I am a fan since I&W.
What's your opinion about:
Psychotic Waltz
Fates Warning
Yes
Gentle Giant
Eldrich
Do you know any Website where I can find information for the above groups (discography, biography, lyrics a.s.o.) and other groups too?
Private mail would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Manolis Samarakis
P.S. 1 day to go!!
Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Other Stuff
Message-ID: <19991025082119.12297.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com>
--- Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>
> try and
> come up with bands who had their "breakthrough" hit,
> then a few lean albums
> (in terms of mainstream/commercial success), and
> then finally got big (at
> least relatively speaking, not necessarily
> platinum-selling big). I think it
> would be an interesting thing to look at.
Led Zeppelin are an example. They had a bona fide hit
with "Whole Lotta Love". They then dropped off the
chart (they released WLL in '69) and stayed off until
they released a single from their Houses Of The Holy
album ("D'yer Mak'er") in 1973. I don't think Zep
fits most people's category of prog, but they never
had really marketable music so for this example they
work. Oh yeah, I think "D'yer Mak'er" was the only
hit single they had until 1978 or around there. In
between those the release of "Whole Lotta Love" and
HOTH albums, Zep released their lowest selling album
(Led Zeppelin III) and then their highest selling
album (Led Zeppelin IV) and I don't think any of the
songs got play immediatley upon release, so we won't
mention 'em. So anyway, by that reckoning, it looks
like they did it twice. It's not totally unheard of.
And if you're *really* stretching, one could list
Vanilla Ice (hey, that Korn-style CD of his got a
little bit of play in my area). Hope this helps.
=====
*Trent
"Life is like a nacho; you can put anything you want on it, but if it gets too cheesy, it's your fault."
Me
:: listen to music ::
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff) ***SPOILER***
Message-ID: <19991025083409.18590.rocketmail@web306.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> wrote:
>
> ********* SPOILERS SORT OF ***********************************
>
> Dan Wait wrote:
>
> > Hi all! First post here, subscribed for about two
> > months. Anyhow, I don't know if this topic has been
> > broached before, but here goes...
> >
> > 1) for those of us who HAVEN'T heard "Home" (or any of
> > the rest of the album), how do you think Jordan's
> > playing will fit in w/ DT? It fits LTE perfectly...
> > but I have a hard time imagining how it will fit DT.
>
Oh believe me, once you pop SFAM into your player, you have absolutely
no doubts about Jordan fitting in the band !!! Definitely best work
they have EVER put out...(HA, I know, I've been listening to it the
whole weekend, release date here in Finland was 22nd...;)
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Jyv)Bäskylä University: jajokita@st.jyu.fi
Homepage: http://www.jyu.fi/~jajokita
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:44:30 +0300
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@cafe.ee>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce...
Message-ID: <199910250739.KAA09101@fw.tamro.ee>
> From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
> I'm guessing Therion is theer-ee-on (theer rhymes with fear), and Vitalij
> Kuprij might be vee-tahl-eesh koo-preesh, extrapolating the pronunciation
I don't speak Ukrainian myself, and the only Slavic language I feel at
home with is Russian, but my bet is Vee-'tah-lee Koo-'pree. Mind the
accents.
Now, if I saw the name written down in the Cyrillic letters... The English
language is notorious for transcribing names and words written in Cyrillic
(that otherwise make perfect sense) into something that's hard to make out
even with a lot of practice under the belt. :-)
Do not click here to continue.
Raitz
Be reasonable --
demand the impossible!
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:53:19 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: hellborg/jens
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB4F54@ms.kallback.com>
> From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
> > I've got an album with Jonas Hellborg, monster-shredder Shawn Lane and
> Jeff
> > Sipe called Temporal Analogues of Paradise, or something like that.
> > Enjoyable stuff - a live recording featuring two 30 minute improvs.
> I just saw Jonas in Paris the other day. He just made a new CD now called
> 'Zen House'. It's all-acoustic, and pretty mellow. But good. Also working
> on material he has recorded with Zakir Hussein in India and some guy
> called Bob Moses... that plays drums with twigs he picks himself in the
> woods..
I just picked up "e" the other day. Great stuff! Kinda like a jazzier and
funkier
LTE without guitar. (e is Hellborg and the Johanssen bros.)
Hellborg sure picks great guys to collaborate with. I also just got "Octave
of
the Holy Innocents" which he recorded with Buckethead and Michael Shrieve.
A lot more minimal than "e" but still great.
Trevor
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:04:21 CEST
From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5135
Message-ID: <19991025100422.7453.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi again,
jason says:
And it also helps that Mike is probably the
biggest fan of all. In my opinion, this album is a gift to all of us who
have been here and seem to keep longing for the 'good 'ole days'. Jordan's
contribution is beyond explanation.
absofuckinglutely brother. Thanks again to DT for this nice surprise.
seb
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:31:59 +1000
From: Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: SFAM Release!!!
Message-ID: <38143FAF.8CA03733@powerup.com.au>
> Who knows what the Australian release date is???
> We always seem to be The Last In Line (no Dio pun intended *L*).
> I've tried to find out the date of release, only to be told, "It'll be here
> when it gets here!"
Paul,
I'm a bit behind on my 'jams, so I was just wondering if you've heard
anything about the Oz release date yet? So far I've been getting the
same response as you in every CD shop I've been into: *Checking
Platterlog* "Nope, it's not listed here. I can't help you, sorry!"
Dammit! ;)
Gordo
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:03:30 +0200
From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The new album/live/poll 99
Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E621070F8381@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I picked up the new Dream Theater album on the way into
the office this morning. Good. Fucking Good. It has more
than compensated me for the disappointment I felt when
"Falling Into Infinity" was released. I won't review it.
Just one comment about the similarity between the track
"Home" and Tool's song "46 + 2" - it jumps out and grabs
you by the throat. I can now throw away my Viagra and
pleasure my girlfriend any time she's foolish enough to
play this album.
Some ingrates are already saying they hope the band
won't play the new stuff back-to-back all the way
through - I can only hope they do. Albums like this
are meant to be heard (and played that way). I was
lucky enough to see Genesis perform "The Lamb Lies
Down On Broadway" in its entirety 3 times back in '74
and these shows were some of the best I've ever been
to in 27 years of going to concerts. The same applies
to the tour Pink Floyd did with "The Wall", as well as
to the Yes tour when "Tales From Topographic Oceans"
was released.
The end of another year is slowly but surely
approaching, which means time for our yearly "album of
the year" poll. I'm offering to do this again, but this
year I'm suggesting 2 options for you to choose from.
It's a foregone conclusion that "Scenes From A Memory"
and "Liquid Tension Experiment 2" will take the first
2 positions, so I would suggest that you
a) submit your top 5 albums excluding the 2 mentioned
above, or
b) submit your top 10 albums including the 2 mentioned
above.
Let me know what you think. I'll then open the poll to
run all through December.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
Currently playing: Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory
(for the 4th time in a row - my boss will love my
productivity today)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:17:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Happy Christmas Eve
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9910250816330.76196-100000@archa15.cc.uga.edu>
Hey all--
Just wanted to extend my warmest holiday wishes :)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:01:18 -0500
From: "Pye, Adam" <apye@kcc.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Die American Scum...
Message-ID: <CF2C9F6501B6D211862500805F15297F01EE88CE@ustcax09.kcc.com>
Mark C. Healey whined:
> THE VEIL OF SECRECY, I agree is a joke. Because people in other countries
have
> the album and people in other countries will not get the record for
several days
> or even weeks. But what will the
> Americans do....Talk about it. With complete disregard for those who have
got it
> yet. What then...??
So what should we do here, wait until every person on the Jam gets the
album? What about the people waiting to see what others think about it?
What about people who's CDNow order shows up late - should we delay talk
about the album 'till these people all individually report that they've
obtained the CD? What about those who don't necessarily buy the album the
day it comes out? You know, I don't plan on getting the CD 'till next July,
so none of you sons of bitches better talk about the album until I get it.
I'll let you all know when you're allowed to review it - and you'd better
not do it before. I'll sick my cousin Joey on you if you do, you skanky
bastards...
Dream Theater is an American band. This list is predominantly American.
The offical release date, according to Portnoy, is October 26, regardless of
where you're from. Live it, learn it, shut the hell up...
Adam
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:16:55 -0400
From: "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: ATTN fans of Nathan Mahl, The Hand Farm, Finneus Gauge
Message-ID: <199910251327.GAA20301@fugazi.torchsong.com>
Howdy Jammerz!!
I'm very excited to have purchased directly from Guy LeBlanc himself
(since we're in the same hometown: Ottawa, Canada) subVersia. For those =
of
you who don't know, Guy LeBlanc is the keyboardist, vocalist, =
songwriter,
mastermind etc... for the prog rock/fusion band, Nathan Mahl. =
SubVersia is
his solo masterpiece recorded over the course of spring/summer with the =
help
of some very fine musicians.
On guitars: Jos=E9 Bergeron, Mark Sp=E9nard and Scott McGill (guitarist =
for The
Hand Farm and formerly of Finneus Gauge)
On Sax: Paul D=E9sagn=E9.
When I bought Clever use of Shadows (Mahl's latest album) I didn't
think they could surpass it but as Guy said himself, his solo album is =
as
good if not better then Shadows. All rhythm and vocals are performed by =
Guy
and Scott's playing on the tracks are really amazing (it will remind =
you of
Finneus Gauge) especially on the epic track clocking at almost 30 =
minutes,
subVersia.
Nathan Mahl was the biggest surprise at NEARfest '99 according to
Ghostland.com. I have seen them live with The Hand Farm over the course =
of
the summer and they played a song from their forthcoming double album =
coming
out next year called: HERETIK. The song was called Carpe Diem and it =
totally
blew me away. I for one can't wait to listen to their new album which =
the
recording process should start in December Guy says.
Check these guy's out @
http://home.iSTAR.ca/~natmahl/
This album will stay in my cd player along with Scenes from a Memory
coming out tomorrow!!!!!
Mr. ProG
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:22:57 -0500
From: "Webb, Ryan M." <RWebb@spectrapoint.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5126
Message-ID: <8D9A3E0C6F42D1118EDC0060081D3FFA01D84341@ucusmail.SpectraPoint.com>
"Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@iserve.net> wrote:
<Is this list an Americans only club? Only Skadz club?? Why should you ask
others>
<to refrain from discussing SFaM until late Tuesday morning when some won't
get>
<the record>
<for several days later or even weeks. So then what's fair for you and
Europe>
<and a few>
<other countries works for the MAJOR MARKETS but screw the small markets??>
So then, according to you, there should be NO discussion about SFaM until
EVERY market has the CD available??? After the 26th, the majority of
the people on this list will have the CD available to them, maybe it's
from Europe, the US, maybe CD Now, etc....it's available.... Why should
the majority of people who already have the CD have to wait for every
single tiny market to receive it? I heard that there is a remote village
somewhere in Zimbabwe that isn't getting the CD released until the year
2973...are we supposed to wait until then to discuss it? What about someone
who can't afford to go out and buy it, even though it might be available
at the store down the street from him...is that fair to him too?? shouldn't
we have to wait until everyone who wants one can get it?
The point is...the majority of the people on this list should be able to
discuss it while it's still fresh in their minds...after the 26th of
October, 1999
-Ryan
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:42:37 -0500
From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Other Stuff
Message-ID: <B439C87D.6C6%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:24:12 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: Other Stuff
>> come up with bands who had their "breakthrough" hit,
>> then a few lean albums
>> (in terms of mainstream/commercial success), and
>> then finally got big (at
>> least relatively speaking, not necessarily
>> platinum-selling big). I think it
>> would be an interesting thing to look at.
>
> Led Zeppelin are an example. They had a bona fide hit
> with "Whole Lotta Love". They then dropped off the
> chart (they released WLL in '69) and stayed off until
> they released a single from their Houses Of The Holy
> album ("D'yer Mak'er") in 1973. I don't think Zep
> fits most people's category of prog, but they never
> had really marketable music so for this example they
> work. Oh yeah, I think "D'yer Mak'er" was the only
> hit single they had until 1978 or around there. In
> between those the release of "Whole Lotta Love" and
> HOTH albums, Zep released their lowest selling album
> (Led Zeppelin III) and then their highest selling
> album (Led Zeppelin IV) and I don't think any of the
> songs got play immediatley upon release, so we won't
> mention 'em. So anyway, by that reckoning, it looks
> like they did it twice. It's not totally unheard of.
Well, I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think they really fit
the bill. While you're right, WLL was their only top ten single (1969), all
those albums after that point were getting radio play, going platinum, and
they were playing sold-out arena shows. The reason they weren't on the
singles chart is simply because they only released six of them in their
career, and most of them "only" hit the teens or low 20s because most people
who liked the stuff already had the albums.
For the record, here's their charted songs, with peak position and month
they first showed up in the top 40:
Whole Lotta Love: 4, December 69
Immigrant Song: 16, December 70
Black Dog: 15, January 72
D'yer Mak'er: 20, November 73
Trampled Under Foot: 38, May 75
Fool In The Rain: 21, January 80
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:59:05 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Dream Theater rarity?
Message-ID: <49568fc215graham@picsel.com>
Have a look at this:
http://www.towereurope.com/Detail.cfm?ID=893621&CFID=88027&CFTOKEN=33265040
Apparently, Dream Theater released an album in January this year entitled
"Hell Freezes Over", with the WDADU cover, and they also supported Elton
John on his European tour.
I think Tower Records have been slightly misinformed. ;-)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:03:30 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mikw Portnoy interview on WBAB Message-ID: <38146332.C8008327@wezl.org>
Umm...would that be the band "Second Coming" or is that what they're naming the project...if so the name is already taken...and Second Coming is a BADASS band...especially if you like The Tea Party, definetly check them out.
Scarred2112@aol.com wrote:
> 22) Mike confirmed the name of his new side project as "Second Coming".
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:17:57 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Vanden Plas Message-ID: <v04210100b43a12f42849@[192.168.1.1]>
>We should ask Mr. Bredius about this. I mean, Vanden Plas are Dutch aren't >they?
Uh... no. They are from Germany. But the name, Vanden Plas, is indeed supposed to be Dutch. No Jaguar. ;-)
Pronounciation? It's something like fun-dan-plus. Not exactly, but you'd get away with it ;-)
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:09:08 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: the veil... Message-ID: <v04210101b43a14d198a1@[192.168.1.1]>
>THE VEIL OF SECRECY, I agree is a joke.
Then LAUGH about it, goddammit. It's just one more day.
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:18:22 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Radio edits; Hendrix; DT album sales? Message-ID: <19991025141822.51499.qmail@hotmail.com>
I think US fans are probably a little lucky that ANY radio over there plays DT; over here, they don't even put out singles - what would be the point? Who the hell would play it? Also, I haven't heard the edit of Home, and I'm told that DT did the edit. I don't care; I hate radio edits, whoever did them. EDIT - the term means "To cut out various parts of the whole". I remember the edits of previous DT songs, and I hate every one of them - or what's left of them. Particularly with DT stuff, IT DOESN'T WORK!!
> >And while we're on re-makes, does anyone else think > >that Stevie Ray Vaughan's re-make of Hendrix's "Little > >Wing" was WAY better than Hendrix's version? Vaughan's > >style is so much more refined, and his tone is > >infinately better than Hendrix, imho. I like the Corrs' version :) (No, really!)
>I do... Actually, I do think Steve, as a guitarist, was much >better than Hendrix... No, I don't discuss Hendrix's >importance to guitar history, that can't be argued... I hear this argument the whole time, that Hendrix was the greatest guitarist ever, and it's bullshit. SRV was a hell of a lot better; as indeed was Jimmy Page, as indeed is John Petrucci. Hendrix was the best when he was around, and yes, was the most influential guitarist ever, but to say that no-one's played better since 1971 is bull. That's like saying that no-one's made a better album than Sgt Pepper (which is said all the time, but repetition doesn't make a fact!), when there's been several that have surpassed it.
>14) Mike confirmed that DT was signed to a seven-album deal, starting >with >I&W, and commented that the label does notice the worldwide >sales when >each new album is approved. Just out of interest, does anyone want to take a guess at how many records DT have sold internationally, from WDADU through to FII, as of RIGHT NOW? I'd be interested if anyone knows.
Also, I'm sure Mike's wrong about this one, unless the head of Elektra is a massive DT fan or something. Otherwise, they've found babylon, the undiscovered country, the place where old bands and Asia go to die...A Record company that lets you sell diddly-squat and still keeps you one! :)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:30:23 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SFaM Message-ID: <3814697F.4D0E3DB@isd.net>
I have some good news for those of you in the Twin Cities metropolitan area. Cheapo Records on Snelling Ave. in St. Paul is keeping the doors open until 12:30 AM. At 12:01 AM SFaM will be on sale! I most certainly will be there with a "Fist Full of Dollars." :) Other Cheapo stores may also be open late tonight. Woo Hoo!!!
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:31:38 -0400 From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Lots: Thanks, Ozric Message-ID: <199910251031_MC2-8A57-E069@compuserve.com>
=20 Well I took MP's advice and stayed away from all info possible, I ha= ve=20 deleted most jams for about the last 4-5 days as they all seamed to=20 have spoilers in them and I'm glad I did, cheers Mike. =20 I believe the new Ozric album is going to be called Floating Seeds a= nd=20 will be available soon not sure though It was on a flyer I got from=20 GFT which is were I got SFAM from, good prog selection if anyone in=20 the UK wants prog try it, SFAM was =A312.50 www.gft-cyclops.co.uk. =20 Dave
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:40:01 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JLB/Jon Anderson/high vocals Message-ID: <19991025144001.6896.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I don't feel that Petrucci has grown at all since his last effort, >namely, LTE II, which is disappointing since I have seen him grow in >every >albom I've listened to up until now. That's funny, I'm not sure how much he's grown as a guitarist since LiT...
>>James also takes no chances vocally, staying in the same a la Pink >>Floyd >>range throughout almost the whole album. Crikey! There'd be a first time for everything! >Personally, I LIKE him toned down a little... I don't think that anyone would argue about that, esp. for the sake of reproducing it live...When was the last time you heard him sing Innocence Faded's second verse "properly"?
>Q: What don't you like about it? >A: The singer. >-- >Q: What don't you like about the singer? >A: Well, I'm used to singers that sing in a lower key. I guess If I >listened to it a little more I could get used to him.
>really liked the intro riff. But, unfortunately, the moment James >opened >his mouth, he quickly gathered his jaw off of the floor and >got this >bewildered look. He was really, really trying to get into >the song, but >James' high vocals really turned him off. Apparently Shit! Quick guys, we'd better ditch James then! (Sorry, Kevin Shirley/Record Company exec./ moment there!)
>Of course. Not to say I don't like him and that's he's not a great > >vocalist, but James (and maybe the presence of keyboards) are why 90% >of >radio listeners don't like DT. I can understand it, not liking >some >vocalists myself because they're too high-pitched. I'd love to know what they make of female singers! (Excepting Shania Twain, who seems obsessed with staying in a male register. "Man! I feel like a woman!"? Funny, you neither look nor sound like one...) I mean, I agree with you entirely, but it's such bullshit. Sometimes I dispair of people - they don't like it because the singer's too high? I mean, what the fuck does that mean? I love JLB and Jon Anderson...I keep playing stuff in my head and transposing JLB/JA over the top instead of the normal singer. Sounds ace. Try it.
Regards, Si
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:03:22 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFaM In CDnow Top 10!!! *Album cover spoilers!!!* Message-ID: <3814713A.EE186802@wezl.org>
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=152137459/pagename=/RP/TOP100/index.html
Yes ladies and gents...overnight SFaM beat out Dixie Chicks, and Indigo Girls (ulch) to take over #10 and now the cover is posted...can we make it go to #1?????
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:24:19 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: cdnow update Message-ID: <19991025152419.75160.qmail@hotmail.com>
and i realize that i'm probably the 14th person to report this, but M2 has hit the top ten on the cdnow top 100, and has been duly rewarded with a picture
meaning that those who are still gamely holding out til tomorrow without any clue of what the disc looks or sounds like are hereby prohibited from viewing that site, as the picture of the cover will utterly destroy your listening experience :=)
Partha
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:45:37 -0400 From: crow <crow@ccpl.carr.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 98 Rock in Baltimore Message-ID: <38147B21.5A1A9929@ccpl.carr.org>
For Jason and anyone else that wants to tune in, you can heard 98Rock worldwide over the net. Just go to their website http://www.98online.com and go to the tune in link.
One of the good things is that over the net feed there is no 7-sec delay, so you hear EVERYthing that happens on air during their morning show. Screw the FCC.
Chris
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:48:42 -0400 > From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> > To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: 98 Rock > Message-ID: <022f01bf1ef8$08e96760$802efea9@jasonbir> > > > >And does anybody know anything about the baltimore rock station at 97.9? > >They play Rush constantly, and lot's of Queesryche too, so they should > >be receptive. But maybe all the Godsmack evens it out, > > This would be 98 Rock. Used to be better, but still the best radio station > in the area. (DC/Balt) Does play lots of Rush and played SB "Skin" as a > smash or trash. Did promote DT back in the Awake days as well. Best chance > of all stations. Can't listen to it from here, tho.. :^( > > Jason > > > > ------------------------------
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