YTSEJAM Digest 5123
Today's Topics:
1) TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 5122
by administrator@itsyourlife.com
2) vanden plas
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) Re: vanden plas
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
4) Re: jbecker/MII cover
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
5) Derek's viewpoint
by "Vaughn, Brandon" <VAUGHNB@CHIPOLA.CC.FL.US>
6) Don't fuck with me, boyee!
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
7) Re: Wicked City
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
8) I was right! (another spoiler)
by MaxArbot@aol.com
9) You just don't get it.. (but that's OK)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
10) Re: Instead of chewing your toe nails......
by Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk>
11) Radio Station e-mails
by Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
12) Wicked City
by "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
13) More problems from Soulfly camp
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
14) Another comparision (major spoilers).
by DarthMetze@aol.com
15) CD-R Questions (Yes I actually have one)
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
16) Best Of The 90s
by "Don Compton" <soulmadness@hotmail.com>
17) Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
18) Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
19) Re: Another comparision (major spoilers).
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
20) Home ***possible spoilers****
by "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
21) Re: Don't fuck with me, boyee!
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
22) Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
23) Re: Home, Keys, Digital
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
24) Re: FW: Request test
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
25) Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
26) Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:50:19 -0400
From: administrator@itsyourlife.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: administrator@itsyourlife.com
Subject: TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 5122
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:36:44 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: vanden plas
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB4F40@ms.kallback.com>
Where is everyone getting the new Vanden Plas?
The only place I can find online is cdeurope for US$22.95.
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:12:21 -0400
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: vanden plas
Message-ID: <00b601bf1bce$4b4b4420$0200005a@Kez>
>
>Where is everyone getting the new Vanden Plas?
>The only place I can find online is cdeurope for US$22.95.
>
>Trevor
>
I just ordered mine from www.aorheaven.com
$14 for the CD, but shipping from Germany is a bit high, so combine it with a
few others and you'll be alright.
Kez
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:35:54 -0700
From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: jbecker/MII cover
Message-ID: <004201bf1bd1$9686e180$5ef8aa26@multimedia>
> Just to let everyone know that Jason Becker's new cd,
> entitled "Raspberry Jams", is now on sale at CDNOW
> for the moderate price of $12.99.
> Anybody heard it? Is it good?
yeah, i have it. I'm totally blown away
but i'm a 'little' biased to say the least.
The production isn't 'pristine' because he
did everything on his 4/8 track but
its worth more than a fully blown
Oceanway Studio recording for me.
A must have for guitarists.
peace,
--james--
www.genomefactor.com
www.jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:08:07 -0500
From: "Vaughn, Brandon" <VAUGHNB@CHIPOLA.CC.FL.US>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Derek's viewpoint
Message-ID: <41303F74D60DD111B56500609778A79C7E9347@chipola.cc.fl.us>
Thanks for whoever posted the recent interview of Derek. I think it
speaks a lot to why he is not in DT anymore. Here are some quotes that
stood out to me:
Q: Is it hard to come up with song titles for instrumental songs?
A: 'You know what? That was the very last thing that we came up with.
And they are so unimportant. With the whole "Atlantis" trilogy I am kind
of making a mockery of progressive rock because I think a lot of
progressive bands try to be so profound and try to take themselves so
seriously. I am kind of just taking a poke at them.'
Q: You did it yourself with Dream Theater though.
A: (laughs) 'As I said, I was mocking prog'.
Q: Like you said, you were fired from Dream Theater. Do you or they
still keep in touch?
A: 'No. I mean, I never really communicated with them when I was in the
band. Let alone outside of the band. It has always been just business
with those guys.'
So basically, beside the fact that his "free lifestyle" clashed with the
more family-married nature of DT, it looks like he sees music as more of
a party atmosphere. Surely the lyrics and attitude of Petrucci and
Myung must have clashed against his philosophy of music. I've contended
since day 1 Derek joined the band that he either subconsciously or
deliberately would try to sabotage the band's direction. (If you don't
believe me, just compare FII with SFAM when it comes out.)
Furthermore, who would want someone in the band that was "just
business." For them to call him on the phone is even more verification
that they never had any kind of real relationship with the guy. It is
amazing to me that they even came up with good music considering the
work conditions. I think Jordan works much better because it seems like
they are all friends having a blast (like in the old KevMo days) instead
of the business it had become under Derek.
I applaud DT for ousting him. Not because he isn't a good keyboard
player; I doubt many would argue that point. But he does not have the
passion or desire or commitment to the art of what DT is about to
realistically pull off SFAM.
Once SFAM comes out, I'm sure Derek will become a far distance memory.
I'm even beginning to forget his last name as we speak.
In fact, I've never been this excited about an album like this one. I
had but all given up hope that DT would ever come close to I&W glory
again (or even Awake for that matter). But this will easily become my
most favorite DT album. I can't believe that I'm actually saying there
will be a better album than I&W. But it is here...or will be here by
OCT. 26!
To me (without going into spoilers), this album takes all the best of
every album and combines it into one...I&W intricate playing-especially
between guitar and keyboard-great odd time sigs . . . Awake heaviness at
times-the power of the songs that hit you . . . ACOS well lets just say
it looks like small potatoes now ... FII more hook oriented songs.
Imagine taking all of that and swirling it together, plus 150% better
use of background vocals than they have ever done in the past, ...SFAM.
Shall be a fun year indeed!
The MadTabber
By the way, I'm sure with this album there will be a new influx of new
subscribers. I know it is hard, but lets all try to be patient and
courteous to them...even when they ask stupid questions...or questions
we have heard a million times. The band has done such a great job this
time, I think we really owe it to them to make this Jam a very friendly
place to new people. So, if you must point out "read the FAQ," try to
be nice about it.
And mentioning the power of the Jam, we need to do everything in our
effort to help DT push this album past I&W's success!
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:10:04 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Don't fuck with me, boyee!
Message-ID: <380F2CCC.E7CFF8BD@isd.net>
Chris Ptacek wrote:
> It's interesting that you bring this up, because I almost forgot that I
>received information that tells me I was wrong to back down against Al a
>while back. According to my recording tech professor, who has studied the
>physics involved in analog recording, record, erase, and playback heads ARE
>magnets, unlike what Al insisted. They aren't your typical refrigerator
>stock, but are instead electromagnets (Al granted this where it regards
Hehe.. Let me paste some of my original reply. (I saved it)
"Tape heads typically are a metal alloy with a helical wound pickup coil that
reacts to magnetic media by reading the particles previously arranged by the
record head and converting the magnetic information to electrical impulses.
The record head is fed electrical impulses and converts that to magnetic
impulses that rearrange the magnetic particles on the tape. The erase head
is simply a mini ELECTROMAGNET. This is a VERY elementary description, but
adequate for our purposes. I assure you, the tape heads themselves are NOT
magnets." END QUOTE
The record head, when active, is also an electromagnet. Obviously recording on
a tape changes it properties. The PLAYBACK head is not a magnet at ANY time.
It's an electromagnetic transducer. Read only. (unless magnetized from lack of
maintenance) YOUR original argument specifically addressed PLAYBACK.
On cheaper machines that share a common record/playback head, the single
head can operate in both modes, but will only PRODUCE a magnetic flux when
in the record mode.
>record heads). Degaussing, is used to remove residual flux that interferes
>with the head's accuracy, but when it is functioning, a tape head IS a
>magnet, as is the tape itself. The process of recording magnetizes a tape,
>and the process of playback uses an electromagnet to read the tape (whether
NO NO NO! The PLAYBACK head is a transducer. The record head is (very
simply put) an highly controlled electromagnet only when energized by the
supporting electronics.
>by measuring flux or reluctance, I can't recall, but I can summon data to
>back it up if need be) This process degrades the integrity of the tape's
>signal, because as flux is run through the tape, minute parts of the tape
>move, become magnetized, shift, etc. None of this has anything to do with
>what sounds better: MP3 or Cassette.
What you are referring to is physical wear of the tape as particles on the
surface get damaged or are removed/shifted. Most of this can be blamed
on abrasive components in the tape path (guides, capstan, mechanical end
of tape detectors and cheap heads) or excessive pinch roller pressure.
Cheaper machines suffer greatly from these problems because of poor
material choices on the part of the manufacturer. The better the machine,
the lower the tape degradation as it's played. ALL machines cause tape
wear, The degree of wear greatly varies from machine to machine. A quality
machine that's well maintained minimizes these problems. No one uses a
master tape for daily playback. The master tape is used to record a new
copy when the integrity of the old one is compromised. I've got recordings
I made on my old Ampex reel-to-reel over 20 years ago that still sound great.
When they have out lived their usefulness, I'll make a new copy from the
original vinyl source. Assuming the original was from vinyl I still posses.
As I've stated in the past, I don't like cassettes. The tape is to narrow and
the tape speed much to slow. However, in their highest form they are still
superior to common MP3s at this time.
> What I agree with is that tape is a more accurate representation of
>reality, in a sense. Analog tape is best described as a volume knob. Every
>"bit" that Dickenson described (these are actually remnants... bits of iron
>oxide... when they are magnetized, they are called "domains" which basically
>means that it's a tiny polar magnet) can be PARTIALLY magnetized. You can
>have degrees of on and off, unlike on digital samples. No matter what your
>sample rate, a sample can only be on or off, like a power switch. Not as
>flexible as analog tape, but in most cases, sonically superior to most
>analog... certainly to cassette tape. Reel to reel will always have some
>benefits that digital can't reproduce, but at some point, it will become
>such a finite difference that it won't be possible for any living being to
>find a fault with digital. And I think Al would agree.
They are getting closer. But digital still lacks some of the warmth that
analog is famous for. As far as the tape head thing is concerned, I'm not
an expert in the field, but I'd like to think I have a fairly good grasp on the
basics. For more information on this topic, I'd seek the advice from someone
that has an engineering degree and is using that degree conducting research
and developing products for the recording industry.
There is an old saying... "Those that can, do - Those that can't, teach"
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:22:47 -0500
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Wicked City
Message-ID: <380F2FC7.5534@earthlink.net>
]From: "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
> Something nasty, Something pretty, Come inside my Wicked City.
Not quite great, Not quite shitty, Please stop spamming for Wicked City.
:)
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:27:17 EDT
From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: I was right! (another spoiler)
Message-ID: <0.d796b81c.25408ad5@aol.com>
Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler - Spoiler
When I first listened to the album, it occurred to me that it was not just a
collection of songs, but an *album*. Now that I've learned a couple of
things (the full title, for example), it made sense. It's like Floyd's "Dark
Side of the Moon." It's a full album meant to be listened to from start to
beginning. And then I read LaBrie say this: "...but by then, the album will
sell and we can do an incredible show; do the entire album start to finish
live; do it on stage in a big way. "
Aaaaaaaah!! I can't fucking wait!!
I feel lightheaded...I need to lay down.
[eriC]
NP: "Beyond This Life" by DRE/\M THE/\TER
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:02:27 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: You just don't get it.. (but that's OK)
Message-ID: <380F3912.BD125548@isd.net>
Chris Ptacek wrote:
>Well, according to the formula we've been taught, the volume is doubled
>roughly every 3 dB. Around 136 dB, according to our professor, the ear
>"gives its final protest" which is generally a bloody affair. hitting 384
>dB would have to be an extinction level event. :) The ear's tolerance for
>volume works proportionally (insofar as it too is a logarithmic scale) to
>the dB scale, in a sense... the louder the sound, the shorter the duration
>you can handle. Just an interesting note, I guess.
That's just dandy if applied amplitude. And you are obviously confusing sound
amplitude with the amplitude of an electrical signal. There is a big difference
between acoustical SOUND and electrical impulses. If your CD player has an
output of 2.5 volts from 10 Hz to 20 KHz and a signal-to-noise ratio of 105
dB then why can't you hear it without the support of amplifiers and speakers?
Hint: There is no sound until a speaker converts electrical impulses to mechanical
movements that are propagated as acoustical sound.
However, the topic was bandwidth and resolution. You CAN have a signal of
70 dB (amplitude) with a bandwidth of 96 dB. on another note...
Let's examine a TV picture. The average bandwidth of a color TV signal (picture
and sound) is 6 megahertz! If translated to decibels the figure is quite high.
(I don't have time to do the math, nor is it really that important)
Does this BEGIN to tell us how loud the volume is at the listeners ear? How
LOUD is the picture? The bandwidth doesn't tell us what frequency the picture
is at, just how much spectrum space is occupied as the signal is propagated.
Both you guys are talking apples and oranges at a banana convention.
Now do you get my drift?
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:11:50 +0100
From: Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Instead of chewing your toe nails......
Message-ID: <380F3B45.7ADFBD6D@bolton.ac.uk>
HI: All
> Absolutely rocks??????
> Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!! You must be kidding! Its the dullest disk
> I've bought this year (though parts of 'Day For Night' run it close).
> The last track 'House' should be renamed 'lounge music' or something.
> Its a complete snoreathon.
> Well one thing I've always liked about Marillion is that they don't produce
> throw away music. Last years Radiation has only just completely grown on me
> and I really like it now wheras there were only a few rockier numbers I
> liked before. Yikes, you didn't like Day For Night either. Man that was one
> of the best albums of 98.
> The snippets on The Web Christmas disk and the website promised that
> these should be cool, but aside from parts of "Interior Lulu', its been a
> complete disappointment. I sincerely hope that SFAM doesn't sound
> anything like Marillion.Com. With so many great gigs coming up in
> November, no need to waste another #12 on Marillion.
The last time I saw Marillion live I was treated to one of the finest nights
of Music ever. If anyone gets the oppertunity I wouldn't miss it, cos they
really rock out Live.
> >All The Best: Dave "Calling All Stations" Perkins
>
> Well if you like that - maybe that explains it.
Well I suppose I take that as a compliment. If you didn't like Day For Night
or Marillion.com then I suppose you wouldn't like Calling All Stations either,
still I'm sure we can both agree that Dream Theater certainly are fantastic
and both live and in the studio they are absolutely amazing. It just makes me
laugh that two people who like one band as distinctive as Dream Theater can
come from such different musical angles, anyway heres to Scenes From A
Memeory, I'm sure we'll both love it but obviously for very different reasons!
All The Best: Dave "chew them nails" Perkins
"Opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one": Clint Eastwood
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:29:00 -0400
From: Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Radio Station e-mails
Message-ID: <380F3F4B.4EA4CFAE@udel.edu>
here's one for you... mail@wrdx.com, that's my local station. They play
some Rush and Yes every now and then, so it wouldn't be too big a reach
for them.
And does anybody know anything about the baltimore rock station at 97.9?
They play Rush constantly, and lot's of Queesryche too, so they should
be receptive. But maybe all the Godsmack evens it out, I dunno...those
guys have to be the biggest AiC ripoffs I've ever heard.
--
Chris Jerolamon
ckj@udel.edu
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:36:28 PDT
From: "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Wicked City
Message-ID: <19991021163629.90661.qmail@hotmail.com>
Something nasty, Something pretty, Come inside my Wicked City.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/56/wicked_city.html
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:16:38 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: More problems from Soulfly camp
Message-ID: <19991021.121645.11614.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
hey jammers, (bad news)
I talked about the concert when I went to Soulfly in June, and I know
heavy stuff isn't a lot of people's fortay here, but evryone knew what
happened with Max and Sepultura, and apparently it's happening again. I
got all of this from a friend who read it on the net I believe.
Max was in an elevator with his drummer, who had always been loyal to
him. What Max didn't know is that he had been jamming with former Machine
Head, Soulfly guitarist Logan Mader in his new band. Logan was asked to
leave Soulfly about a year ago for "trying to control the band" I
believe. Anyway, Roy told Max "I can't do this anymore" then Max got
pissed at him cursing "Why the Fuck does everybody do this to me" then he
began choking him in the elevator. he then went to the truck, and
pitched all his drums off, damaging every one of them.
I personally believe this to be very true, Max seems to be losing it. If
you go to Soulfly.com you should be able to read another story about what
dickheads Max AND gloria, his wife and manager is. He really needs to
get his life strait, lose her as a manager, and get back to Sepultura.
Kurt
NP-Q2K (don't flame me, I love it :)
"and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on
going"-Doubledrive
New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out Oct 26th
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:18:53 EDT
From: DarthMetze@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Another comparision (major spoilers).
Message-ID: <0.dea3137.2540a4fd@aol.com>
Listen to these files...sound similar?
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/DarthMetze/home.mp3">http://members.aol.com/Da
rthMetze/home.mp3</A>
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/DarthMetze/metropolis1.mp3">http://members.aol
com/DarthMetze/metropolis1.mp3</A>
Heh heh...this is so cool.
[eriC]
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:21:32 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: CD-R Questions (Yes I actually have one)
Message-ID: <380F4B9C.A53727C8@wezl.org>
This will probably be a first and a last, My Cd audio on my PC is sooooo
friggin' soft that while playing kickass games like Quake 2...you can't
hear the CD audio for shit...it's also this way whnever I put in a
regular audio CD. Now I KNOW it's not the windows settings (yes the CD
volume is all the way up), there's no conflicts with the sound card and
anything else...I can only think of 2 thigns it could be...#1 the little
goofy cable going from the CD-R drive to my sound card is upside
down...which I don't think is the problem cause then I shouldn't be
getting anything...or my CD recorder just doesn't read the CD audio well
(It's a $450 HP burner). My other question is to those who have used
both EZ CD Creator 3 + 4...I just got 4 and was wondering if it fixes
the problems 3 had with multiple Cd drives IE. you try to burn a disc
with Audio tracks...Half-life for example...and it takes forever, and
half the time fucks up the CD-R...but only if you're using a CD-ROM
drive, and a burner to read and write...thus supposedly saving time.
Hopefully these questions make some sense...if anyone can help PLEASE
reply to me and not the jam...as it's my problem, and not a Jam problem.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:41:38 PDT
From: "Don Compton" <soulmadness@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Best Of The 90s
Message-ID: <19991021174138.43732.qmail@hotmail.com>
This is my first time coming out of lurk mode in a year and a half almost. I
just wanted to let anyone who wants to to vote for their top 25 best albums
of the 90s. Please send an email to webit@iinc.com or
soulmadness@hotmail.com with your top 25 albums and your name. Results will
be posted in mid-November/early December at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/4934
Please do not e-mail this list with your top 25s- send them directly to me.
Thanks
Don Compton
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:50:16 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
Message-ID: <380F5258.96B9A0D7@ucla.edu>
I'm sure I'm going to feel very dumb for this later, but hey, I haven't
had much sleep so deal with it.. I can't even think of any Awake era
songs that have acoustic guitar on them. In fact, the only DT song at
all that comes to mind is Hollow Years. If you wouldn't mind the fact
that the picture was taken at last year's Christmas concert in New York,
I have a pic of JP playing acoustic during Hollow Years.
~~Amanda
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:18:49 -0400
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
Message-ID: <380F5909.58F1123@yunque.net>
Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
> I'm sure I'm going to feel very dumb for this later, but hey, I haven't
> had much sleep so deal with it.. I can't even think of any Awake era
> songs that have acoustic guitar on them. In fact, the only DT song at
> all that comes to mind is Hollow Years. If you wouldn't mind the fact
> that the picture was taken at last year's Christmas concert in New York,
> I have a pic of JP playing acoustic during Hollow Years.
>
> ~~Amanda
Well the silent man...and theres that section in voices (staring at the wall
like he spider in the window..) and im pretty sure there are acoustic
guitar overdubs in tracks like Lifting shadows of a dream, erotomania (not
that sure) , scarred..
--
Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back.
Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind.
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:27:57 -0700
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Another comparision (major spoilers).
Message-ID: <19991021.222850.222.1.willeyatc@juno.com>
> Listen to these files...sound similar?
Once again, nice job eric. I heard that also!!! But I think that may be
what they were going for!!!???? maybeE? met. II?
just my thoughts
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, ATC
WSU
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DarthMetze@aol.com writes:
>
>
> <A
>
HREF="http://members.aol.com/DarthMetze/home.mp3">http://members.aol.com/
Da
> rthMetze/home.mp3</A>
> <A
>
HREF="http://members.aol.com/DarthMetze/metropolis1.mp3">http://members.a
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> com/DarthMetze/metropolis1.mp3</A>
>
> Heh heh...this is so cool.
>
> [eriC]
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:43:19 PDT
From: "A_Change of_Seasons" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Home ***possible spoilers****
Message-ID: <19991021184320.15982.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Jam....
I don't know if anyone else has made this comparison, but "Caught in Alice's
Nine Inch Tool Garden" has almost the exact same wah-riff in the first two
beats as "Home". I think they had that riff for a while now...
Later...
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:46:33 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Don't fuck with me, boyee!
Message-ID: <iss.6f96.380f5f0a.71ced.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
> There is an old saying... "Those that can, do - Those that can't, teach"
>
> --
> Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
And it's one of the stupidest sayings in the history of the universe.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:50:32 +0200
From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <380F6078.54B81E8@home.se>
Oddvar Lovaas wrote:
> I also tried different names to get more pictures, but discovered
> that they probarbly upload new ones each day, because the ones at
> Electra which weren't at dreamtheater.net were there the next day
> with the same name...
Isn't it a little disrespectful to be snooping around other
peoples sites? You are trying to sneak a peak at something that
obviously is not meant for you to see.
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:50:38 +0200
From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Home, Keys, Digital
Message-ID: <380F607E.B7308E14@home.se>
Chris Oates wrote on the topic of "Home":
> There isn't a gut-wrenching YOU MUST BUY THIS ALBUM vibe about it.
Every single piece of music Dream Theater creates has a
"gut-wrenching YOU MUST BUY THIS ALBUM vibe" to it.
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:50:45 +0200
From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: FW: Request test
Message-ID: <380F6085.995D61DA@home.se>
Dave Ware wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> Ok, did a test to 93X to see if I would get a standard reply....and...er...I
> didn't which means two things.
>
> 1 - They haven't got a standard reply set up.
> 2 - I now look rather stupid...
Maybe you should have included the words "Home" or "Dream
Theater" in your test mail? I didn't see any of those words in
the body or subject.
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:38:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910211536560.41669-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, sK@RRe wrote:
> Oddvar Lovaas wrote:
>
> > I also tried different names to get more pictures, but discovered
> > that they probarbly upload new ones each day, because the ones at
> > Electra which weren't at dreamtheater.net were there the next day
> > with the same name...
>
> Isn't it a little disrespectful to be snooping around other
> peoples sites? You are trying to sneak a peak at something that
> obviously is not meant for you to see.
Well, actually, if one puts a file in their web directory on a server, it
is literally fair game. If I decide to search around someone's website
for certain filenames and find them, even though they're not linked to
anything, that's still okay, since it's THERE. Anything that you put in a
publicly available web directory is 100% fair game, because it's
technically public information at that point.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:37:34 -0700
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Johns AWAKE era acoustic?
Message-ID: <380FA3BE.9CEC20@wezl.org>
Don't forget the like 4-7 acoustic guitar tracks on Innocence Faded...which to
that point had more Guitar tracks than any DT song
Carlos Andres Alfaro wrote:
> Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
>
> > I'm sure I'm going to feel very dumb for this later, but hey, I haven't
> > had much sleep so deal with it.. I can't even think of any Awake era
> > songs that have acoustic guitar on them. In fact, the only DT song at
> > all that comes to mind is Hollow Years. If you wouldn't mind the fact
> > that the picture was taken at last year's Christmas concert in New York,
> > I have a pic of JP playing acoustic during Hollow Years.
> >
> > ~~Amanda
>
> Well the silent man...and theres that section in voices (staring at the wall
> like he spider in the window..) and im pretty sure there are acoustic
> guitar overdubs in tracks like Lifting shadows of a dream, erotomania (not
> that sure) , scarred..
> --
>
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