YTSEJAM Digest 5121
Today's Topics:
1) QR/TP
by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
2) Home requests
by "Webb, Ryan M." <RWebb@spectrapoint.com>
3) Re: Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
4) Yngwie Tour Dates
by "!Richi Copper!" <enerichi@hotmail.com>
5) Wicked City
by "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
6) frustrated am I
by John <yzzy@earthlink.net>
7) Remove
by Michael S Brumit <stacy@golden-mfg.com>
8) UK Release Date...?
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
9) DT Interviews and others (no spoilers)
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
10) Re: Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers
by Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET>
11) Dream Theater and Psilocybin
by SpamisAnnoying@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
13) Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff) (possible spoiler)
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
14) Re: UK Release Date...?
by Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk>
15) lol
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
16) Re: frustrated am I
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
17) The Ytse massage parlor
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
18) The War of The Wadio
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
19) Re: frustrated am I
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
20) Al Mouths Off!!
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
21) Crocodiles ROCK!
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
22) mail@93x.com
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
23) SMPT
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
24) Home, Keys, Digital
by Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:07:28 -0500
From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: QR/TP
Message-ID: <l03130300b4336c506e67@[128.83.251.170]>
> WOW! I wish I could be in Europe this winter to see that. IMO, tho, I
>think that QR should be opening for the Tea Party (flames welcome :), but
>nonetheless that's a really smooth show.
I totally agree! The Tea Party is my favorite band right now (altho SFAM
may change that). They're without a doubt the best band noone has heard of
in the US. They're pretty big in the Great White North (eh?) but I think
the US has something against Canadian bands. I Mother Earth, TP, Big
Wreck, Finger Eleven, etc are all great bands that get practically no
respect in the US. It's a shame
>That "Edges of Twilight" album is
>simply amazing. I liked their last two albums, but EoT is probably my
>favorite because I'm not much for techno-ish beats. Their singer is simp
Transmission is actually my favorite album, with Edges of Twilite and
TrypTYCH tied for second place. I wouldn't call the two most recent
techno, 'cause that implies dance music, which they definitely are not.
They're a lot more industrial, while still remaining organic (if that makes
any sense). Transmission has to be my favorite use of keyboards, just
about ever. It's the perfect blend of background ambience, melody,
percussion, and other cool stuff. I encourage everyone to check out the
Tea Party. If you can, check out TrypTYCH, 'cause it's a good blend of
Transmission and Edges of Twilight. EoT is amazing because of their use of
"ethnic" instruments from around the world. They used something like 30
different instruments on the album.
Jim Shields
Guitar/Vocals Room 213
www.room213.com
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Spread before you is your soul / So forever hold the dream within our hearts
Through Nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live.
Dream Theater "Learning to Live"
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:32:59 -0500
From: "Webb, Ryan M." <RWebb@spectrapoint.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Home requests
Message-ID: <8D9A3E0C6F42D1118EDC0060081D3FFA01D842E6@ucusmail.SpectraPoint.com>
Ok, after seeing several people re-post
e-mails that they have sent to various radio stations
requesting "Home", it seems to me that these
are not requests for a song...they are mini essays
on the state of the music industry and radio today.
Most of them you have to scroll down halfway through a 25 line
message before you even come to the words 'Dream Theater'
or 'Home'. I doubt the DJs will spend the time to read through
the entire message to try and decipher what the author
really wants.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I would imagine that most radio DJs
don't like being told by several people that the music
they play is crap, and that they should be 'enlightened'
by Dream Theater. I would think that would piss them
off even more...make them less likely to play a DT song.
I also think that bombarding a station with e-mails such
as this (as in the case of Al's 93X, i think it is), all
with a similar message, "music on the radio sucks, play
some Dream Theater!", is going to seem mighty strange to
them...Someone pointed out that a DJ told him "e-mail
requests are taken more serioiusly than phone requests,
because any fool can call in several times". If you're not
careful, the same thing will happen here...the radio station
recieves many many e-mails in a very short time, all saying
the same thing, almost word for word....They're gonna think
it's coming from the same person, or group.
It'll get to the point where these types of e-mails will
piss them off, and we will never hear DT on their station
again....
In my opinion, I would think that something short, and to
the point would work for a request...after all, that is what
the end goal of these e-mails should be...to 'request' the song.
Something like "Could you please play "Home" from Dream Theater?
A friend of mine in xxxx city heard it on his radio station and
said it kicked ass".....something that makes it look like you're
really requesting the song, not demanding it be played because
of the shitty state of radio today.
-Ryan
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:57:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9910200957050.11011-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> Furthermore, the new side group of his is called SMPT. And if that's not enough,
> his new instructional vidoe will be released soon.
was that a typo? is it SMTP, as in an outgoing mail server? hehe, i never
pegged mike for a geeky one :) moo.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:15:29 EDT
From: "!Richi Copper!" <enerichi@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Yngwie Tour Dates
Message-ID: <19991020141529.9586.qmail@hotmail.com>
Yngwie tour info is available at www.Yngwie.org
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:51:26 PDT
From: "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Wicked City
Message-ID: <19991020155126.458.qmail@hotmail.com>
Something nasty, Something pretty, Come inside my Wicked City.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/56/wicked_city.html
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:21:44 -0500
From: John <yzzy@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: frustrated am I
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991020111632.00955760@mail.earthlink.net>
Since Under A Cyber Moon changed their opening file, I haven't been able to
access this site with IE5 (dnserror) or Netscape 4.6. I thought the web
site was down until I decided to check it with my laptop. I've gone
through about everything that I can find on this system and I still can't
access http://www.dreamtheater.net no matter what I do. One friend has
told me that they can only access this site with Netscape -- that IE can't
pull it up.
Does anyone have a clue as to what the deal is? I can pull up everything
but this site. Really weird.
a clueless ytse-yzzy
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:31:58 -0500
From: Michael S Brumit <stacy@golden-mfg.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Remove
Message-ID: <A56C82F3FC33D3119E910090278A0E961E76@golden1.golden-mfg.com>
Will please remove ryan@golden-mfg.com from your list. He is no longer at
this e-mail address.
Thank You
Michael S Brumit
MIS Director
Phone: 972-272-6371 ext.# 295
E-mail: stacy@golden-mfg.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:30:01 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: UK Release Date...?
Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CBBE@bham-xchg>
Hi guys,
Anyone know the UK release date for SFAM, I have some friends in
England who really need to know.
Private Emails are cool....
Thanks,
Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:36:00 +0200
From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT Interviews and others (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <m11dyiW-0002g1C@fwd07.btx.dtag.de>
Hey 'jammers!
I've already read of two new DT Interviews. One in the German
"Metal Hammer" mag and one in the Dutch "Aardschok" (which, btw
means "Earthquake") mag. Could one of the people who possess these
important documents mail me a copy of the interviews (It's okay if you
send it as a scanned pic file - you don't have to type it out).
I would really like to read them and only them. If I buy the whole
mag (I live in Germany), it would be a waste of money because I
am not interested in the other stuff.
When I've read these (hopefully interesting) interviews. I will
choose one, translate it back into English and either
a)post it on the jam
b)put it on my website and tell you the URL
c)send it to UACM. I don't know if Mark Bredius would actually
put it up.
So, you would not be sending to me only. But you would give hundreds
of DT fans the possibility to read it.
I hope someone will do this. Thanks.
Yesterday I picked up Vanden Plas's "Far Off Grace". IT ABSOLUTELY
ROCKS!! Normally, I think thrice before I buy any CD, but this one
amazed me so much, I just had to buy it. Except for DT, I had never
listened to any other prog stuff. If the other bands are something
like this, the Ytsejam got me hooked on prog forever.
My favorite songs are Into the Sun, I don't miss you and Iodic Rain.
ITS ONLY 5 DAYS TILL SFAM!!!
Keep on 'jamming!
Alex
NP: (Guess what?)
-- Alex Gajic [mams.gajic@t-online.de]WIDE AWAKE @ http://WideAwake.freesite.de THE FANATASY QUEST @ http://www.geocities.com/Area51/5974/index.htm
* Kjeldoran's should rule supreme. And for the rest ... death! * AVRAM GARRISON
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:38:33 -0700 From: Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991020093830.01e8bf08@mail.flashcom.net>
At 09:32 AM 10/20/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >> Furthermore, the new side group of his is called SMPT. And if that's not enough, >> his new instructional vidoe will be released soon. > >was that a typo? is it SMTP, as in an outgoing mail server? hehe, i never >pegged mike for a geeky one :) moo.
]From Neal Morse:
"The current name for the Portnoy, Stolt, Trewavas thing is 'Second Nature'."
I think that's the name of the album, not the project itself. The initials in the project name seem to get switched around, depending on who's doing the talking. ;o)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa Marie Palma firegirl@flashcom.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:42:24 EDT From: SpamisAnnoying@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dream Theater and Psilocybin Message-ID: <2854483e.253f4af0@aol.com>
***Disclaimer: If you are particularly negative towards the experimentation of or the recreational usage of drugs, please disregard this post and go do something sober.
I was just wondering if anyone else (besides myself and a friend) have experimented with any kind of mind-altering substance while listening to DT. It seems to be an excellent soundtrack to a mushroom trip.
Last year, two close friends and I grew our own crop of psilocybin mushrooms. Within a few days, FII came out...finally. After much planning, we set FII to play repeatedly while we left for a long journey. After we peaked we went inside and sat down and listened to the music we had going. We played the same CD the whole night.
I highly suggest you try it out. Each song makes you "feel" in a different color scheme (I know that might not make sense to some, but try 'shroomies and you'll understand). It fit perfectly with the trip. I used to think it was just a stereotype of "druggies" that I was raised with when I thought of psychedelics "opening up your mind." Well, I'm no longer a skeptic.
This friend of mine is the biggest DT fan I know (save for me ;o), and when we found SfaM available, we knew it was time. After much more planning, we did the same thing approximately a year later, using the same home grown substance, and a not-yet-released DT album. It was great.
Now...let the flames begin!
[Muad'Dib]
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:32:47 -0700 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119 Message-ID: <19991020.080103.289.2.willeyatc@juno.com>
OK, here's what we are going to do... Let's send a message to them 93X with the subject line saying "song request" and then write someting totally off the subject in the message. If we get the same email back as we have been then we know they are filtering our mail with "request" in the title....
let's try it??? ytseJon
>Yeps! It seems like we'r all getting this anemic message.. blah
>Matej
>It looks to me like someone at that radio station has the filter and >auto-reply all figured out on their E-mail software > >Jonathan D Willey wrote: > >> I wrote this to 93X yesterday!!! Below is the letter I wrote and the >> reponse I got back! >> 93X WROTE: >> >> ****No problem, we'll play it again for ya! >> Thanks for listening to 93X!**** Jonathan Willey A.T.,C. Washington State Athletic Medicine Pullman, WA 99163 Psalm 27:1
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:29:51 -0700 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff) (possible spoiler) Message-ID: <19991020.080103.289.1.willeyatc@juno.com>
>1) for those of us who HAVEN'T heard "Home" (or any of >the rest of the album), how do you think Jordan's >playing will fit in w/ DT? It fits LTE perfectly... >but I have a hard time imagining how it will fit DT.
Hey newguy, I don't want to be much of a spoil writer but Jordan is obviousley an incerdibly talented pianist/keyboardist. You can check him out "showing off" on www.mikeportnoy.com under the bear tracks studio video clips.... it rules! As for the album itself you need to hear more than the radio edit of Home to make a decision. And since I haven't heard anything else but home at this point I can't say how it is on the rest of the album... But on home it is very hard to distinguish the keys in certain areas i think.... I will wait to pass more judgment though until I hear it on my stereo and not my PC....
later Jonathan Willey A.T.,C. Washington State Athletic Medicine
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:21:31 +0100 From: Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: UK Release Date...? Message-ID: <380DFA1B.6E726247@bolton.ac.uk>
25th of October
Dave Ware wrote:
> Hi guys, > > Anyone know the UK release date for SFAM, I have some friends in > England who really need to know. > Private Emails are cool.... > > Thanks, > > Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:04:19 GMT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: lol Message-ID: <19991020180419.44056.qmail@hotmail.com>
lol, i got the same message :) hehe.. they just waited till they played it once and them mass e-mailed all the people picketing outside their building.
inferno NP: the mission uk - god's own medicine
> >I got the same message, but a bit longer. Maybe mine was prior to >the >filter... > >93x bellowed: >>We never refused to play it :-( In fact we do play it! >>We'll play it again for ya! >>Thanks for listening to 93X!
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: frustrated am I Message-ID: <19991020184421.17116.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com>
--- John <yzzy@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Since Under A Cyber Moon changed their opening file, > I haven't been able to > access this site with IE5 (dnserror) or Netscape > 4.6.
> One friend has > told me that they can only access this site with > Netscape -- that IE can't > pull it up.
All I have to say is that your friend is full of shit. I use IE5 and it works fine. I've viewed the different looking UACM twice now with on my computer with IE5 and at no point have I ever had any problem. The only way IE5 "couldn't pull it up" is if the webmaster limited the traffic to only those with Netscape and why the hell would he want to do that?! There's my two cents...
===== *Trent
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:35:58 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Ytse massage parlor Message-ID: <380DE15E.EF8DF0AF@isd.net>
Amanda Rosenblum wrote: >Thanks for the offer Al, but the only hands on me when I listen to the >album, or any other time, will be my boyfriend's.
Hah! Did you actually think YOU were going to be the recipient of that back rub? Well OK, I'd return the favor if asked. :o) Don't take me too seriously, I'm just out here having fun and spreading the DT gospel.
You being a female Dream Theater fan makes you a rare jewel. I'd prefer to stay off your shit list if at all possible. I'll go lay down by my dish now...
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:42:04 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The War of The Wadio Message-ID: <380DFEEC.FDF44065@isd.net>
I'm giving that radio station a few days to lay the golden egg...
I have NOT heard "Home" yet, and I've been keeping a close ear. It would appear we are being humored judging from the obviously pasted reply several of you have received from the station. I have no intention of going away quietly. I'm hoping I can rely on some of you to assist. In preparation for the worst, I'm devising a far more organized battle plan. Once I have all the details worked out I'll share it with you. If it proves successful in the Twin Cities, we'll move on to the next city.
I'd like to thank every one of you that helped me out.
The Ytse Hall of Fame:
Fran Brennan Chris Ptacek Andrew Coutermarsh Daniel Chen John Parks Jonathan Willey James Ahab Dan McCormack - The Cow God Josh Calkin Krysten DeBroka Rob Reid Fernando rauber Bill Blanchard Brian Larkin John Reiter Peter - PMunoz37@aol.com Mike 'Jay Omega' Pelarski Chris Jerolamon Matej Grginic Isaac Trumbo Joe DeAngelo Robert Jurado Jerry - rocknroll@digitalrodent.com David Landis Jason Herbert David Dixon Dave Ware Olivier Ouellet Alex Jordan Janne Jokitalo Martin Nyman Oddvar Lovaas Michael McLoughlin Mark Schmidt Gilberto Bressan Ian Perge Chuck Reis (KorgX3) Tainted Cheese Staff Lisa Marie Palma Brian Hansen Brian Lundy Tom Winn Paul Evans Tom Winn Bill Huston Dale Newberry Mike Dixon Lisa Centorrino Jeremy Smirnoff Kurt Hampton Jim Luzar Matt-indii@vistatech.net Jan-Michael Jonas Opsal
Thank you all so much! If I missed anyone I apologize.
Someone mentioned composing a large text list of radio station e-mail addresses. If someone could do that it would be very useful. If anyone is interested in compiling the list, please come forward! People could research their own area and send the information to you privately. Each participating Jammer can write their own unique request, paste the list into the address bar and BCC (blind carbon copy) every station on the list in one e-mail. If nobody else wants to do this, I will. My present schedule will make it difficult, but I'll live.
Even if only 10% of the listening audience likes the tune, and 1/4 of them purchase the CD, it's bound to boost national sales figures high enough to raise a few eyebrows and entice a few stations to keep it in rotation. Better sales = More support, better venues, and the the opportunity for OFB to continue to creating great music while EARNING a healthy income as well as some much deserved respect from their label.
We will soon learn if the blitzkrieg method is a failure... I certainly hope we don't let them patronize us without consequence. The power of the Jam should never be underestimated. Remember ACoS?
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:18:35 -0700 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: frustrated am I Message-ID: <19991020.231835.289.3.willeyatc@juno.com>
I have had no problems pulling up the website on both nestcape 4.7 and IE5... It's workin for me... if you want to get around it just go to www.dreamtheater.net/index.htm ... This will get you directly to the DT official site and bypass the cover art. If you are dying to see the cover art in progress then go to www.onceinalivetime.com. Of course youmay enter the same problems there.... my thoughts...
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, ATC WSU
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:22:02 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Al Mouths Off!! Message-ID: <0.24e42ce8.253f705a@aol.com>
>>Amanda Rosenblum wrote: >>And now back to your regularly scheduled all Al, all the time, mailing list.
>Lighten up girlie! I'm on a quest. Besides, if you want all Al all the time, It'll >cost you. I'm thinking a back rub while we listen to the new album would >suffice.. You CAN keep your mouth shut for 74 minutes, right? ;o) >Al puts his asbestos pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else.
Can a DTGirl keep her mouth shut for 74 minutes? Depends what is in it at the time I suppose 8-p
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:21:57 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Crocodiles ROCK! Message-ID: <0.273803e8.253f7055@aol.com>
]From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> >>>Just because I'm on a diet don't mean I can't look at the menu..
DTGirl2612 wrote: >>Aha, but what if you came across a particularly tempting dish on that menu? >Well... If you qualify I'll deal with that issue when the time comes. Yeah? How do I qualify? :-p
>>Sometimes to succeed on a 'diet' (metaphorically speaking of course) one has >>to practise total abstinence - like those who have unsubbed from the jam >>until the new album release date.
>True Progrophiliacs are strong willed. We don't eat quiche either!
Quiche ?? Oh you mean bacon and egg tart .....
>Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist >Remember my name - you'll be screaming it later.
You mean you really are an ass doctor?
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:22:00 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: mail@93x.com Message-ID: <0.d408bb69.253f7058@aol.com>
Have sent this polite e-mail to the radio station. Let's see if I get the auto-reply everyone else seems to be getting.
Hi radio people!
As one of your listeners I would really like to hear you play the new Dream Theater single 'Home' which is taken from their latest album release 'Scenes ]From A Memory'.
Hope you can help.
Many thanks
DT Girl>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:14:59 -0400 From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SMPT Message-ID: <199910201614.AA37093588@pressroom.com>
>Furthermore, the new side group of his is called SMPT. And if that's >not enough, his new instructional vidoe will be released soon.
Hmm... Neil Morse was talking about that the album would be called 'Second Nature' on the Thoughts list...
Jason
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:11:56 -0700 From: Chris Oates <coates@objy.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Home, Keys, Digital Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991020131156.00c32ad0@objypop>
I'll do the Home spoilers last, so anyone can read the rest.
Someone had some keys questions:
>1) for those of us who HAVEN'T heard "Home" (or any of >the rest of the album), how do you think Jordan's >playing will fit in w/ DT? It fits LTE perfectly... >but I have a hard time imagining how it will fit DT.
*spoiler?*
Based on the radio edit, I couldn't hear much. :)
*end spoiler 1*
>2) does anyone else think that Kevin's playing didn't >fit "Awake"? IMHO, DT should have remade "Awake" w/ >Derek. His heavier tone would have fit that ablum >better.
Yes, and it was a major topic on both the jam and the newsgroups at the time. 90% of people, myself included, felt that Kevin sounded like he just did session work and left. Since Derek has joined the band, I think the rose-colored glasses have come out and some people claim that Awake has better keys than I&W. Personally, I felt the keys were at way too low a volume level for most of the album.
Digital Vs Analog:
To the guy who said that increasing to 96 bit would mean 300+ decibels of sound:
As much as I enjoy arguing against Al (grin) -- you've missed the point here. adding to the bits in a digital stream does not necessrily mean more high volumes. What it means is a higher resolution -- more discrete steps in the same decibel range. Think of it like switching from 22 Khz to 44 Khz sampling rate. Youy don't get something twice as long, you get something with twice the subtlety. And that's where Digital falls behind the ultra high-end analog gear.
And now more Home discussions (Spoilers here for those who haven't heard the radio edit)
I think people missed the point, or maybe I just didn't make it well. I'm not saying that I don't like the song or that it isn't proggy enough for me. I'm claiming that it won't make too many new fans. Pull Me Under has a great sound, even in the radio cut form, that attracted a lot of new fans to the band (me included) -- I just don't hear Home doing that. There isn't a gut-wrenching YOU MUST BUY THIS ALBUM vibe about it. And it doesn't matter one bit that the full version is better. A casual listener is only going to hear the radio version and make their decision to become a fan based upon that. If that radio version doesn't hook them, then they are unlikely to listen to the "better" version of the song.
The radio version is not made for the benefit of the existing fans. It's made to try to get new ones to buy the new album. And people who were disappointed in FII who hear Home are going to think "more of the same" and possibly not buy the album.
Now, me personally, I think FII was their second best album (to I&W) and Scenes has a definitel likelyhood to upset that list, given what I know. I even think the radio version of Home is pretty cool. Enough to burn it onto a CD-R and make a cover for it (I was bored) As a song, I like it, but as a *single* I don't think it measures up.
~Chris
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