YTSEJAM Digest 5120
Today's Topics:
1) TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 5119
by administrator@itsyourlife.com
2) 93x's autoreply
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
3) several from digest 5119
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
4) Requests??
by "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
5) Re: Requests??
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
6) The radio crusade
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
7) Re: Analog vs digital
by Jay Omega <jomega@legarto.minn.net>
8) carvin cyclops amp
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
9) DT plays MSG regularly
by Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
11) keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff)
by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
12) Zwolle, Nederland, anyone needs transport
by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
14) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jason_Becker=B4s_new_cd?=
by Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
15) Howard Stern
by Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
16) Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers
by "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@iserve.net>
17) Gordian Knot
by "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
18) RE: new album cover (no spoilers)
by Oddvar L?v?s <flail@online.no>
19) Strange title for new album
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
20) Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff)
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
21) sorry
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
22) It Worked!!! (I think)
by Brian Lundy <Styles@injersey.com>
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:04:06 -0400
From: administrator@itsyourlife.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: administrator@itsyourlife.com
Subject: TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 5119
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:35:29 PDT
From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: 93x's autoreply
Message-ID: <19991020023529.9463.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi guys, (and Big Brother, aka AL!) =)
If u guys are using request in the subject I think that might be triggering
it. I used Disappointment as my subject and I received NO reply. Just a
tip that might answer our questions, cause the filter might not be for us
entirely, but for anyone requesting anything. just a though, ALL HAIL AL!
(Bill sees Skadz, rips down sign....Simpsons reference). L8r all! Can't
wait for new DT!
"Wild" Bill
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:36:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: several from digest 5119
Message-ID: <199910200236.WAA13004@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
> From: "Andy Putman" <andyputman@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Home (SPOILERS!!!)
>
>
> I think complaining about "heaviness" kind of misses the point. I
> really think DT is at their best when not in a strictly metal
> context. Songs like Metropolis, The Killing Hand, and A Change of
> Seasons are so wonderful not because they are particularly heavy,
> but because they have such an interesting range of sounds within a
> passionate, emotional context. Though they have bits and pieces of
> metal scattered throughout, they can't be pigeonholed as metal
> songs. I would be very disapointed if DT released an album
> consisting of really heavy metallic songs instead of the diverse
> palette they are capable of.
Thank you!!! This explains about everything that I think about DT...
I think that DT is probably the heaviest band that I listen to, and
also my favorite band... I personally can't listen to songs such as
Lie... too heavy for me... For me, its the Metropolis's, the
Learning To Live, the Scarred, Trial Of Tears, Lines In The Sand, etc
that bring me to DT... as well as songs such as they did last winter,
the "unplugged" tracks, LSOaD, Eve, etc that show where DT truely
shines through... To me, releasing a track like Home shows where DT
can be absolutly amazing... (not that the rest of SFAM doesn't
totally kick ass -- again, I think SFAM might be the best CD they have
to date)
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
> Subject: Fw: Great Band.... so Play em, if ya can!
>
> It looks like Al won. Congratulations. I've included the post that
> I sent, in my new anonymous persona (I sent a post 2 days before it
> in NEWBIE all caps and no punctuation/spellcheck in my own name, for
> fun) We should all move on to the next station. Who's next? LA?
> Philly? Howard Stern? I seriously think this is a good idea. Home
> is different enough that people may notice it, and it's similar
> enough to what could play on the radio these days that it wouldn't
> turn anyone off.
How about WAAF in Boston? The supposed "Only station that really
rocks" -- sure, back in my freshman year (92 -- gulp), they played
Rush every hour, but have, over time, started to be the station that
really sucks... Only problem is, I cna';t find an email address
specifically for request... they have email addresses listed for
everyone at the station, but no generic one for reuqests...
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| There is a river crying | Dream Theater's |
| Living comes much easier | Falling Into Infinity |
| Once we admit We're dying | |
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:06:55 -0400
From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Requests??
Message-ID: <LPBBLFELJFHMJGEAFNIDOEDJCAAA.indii@vistatech.net>
Here is another one for you Al (i CC'ed you a copy)
Do you guys listen to people who call in for requests? I and
several of my friends have called in numerous times and
requested "Home" by Dream Theater. These 5 musicians display
more musical talent in one song than the rest of the "MTV"
stuff you play in an hour. You have, in the past, played them
by requests for earlier albums, including "Falling Into
Infinity", and "Awake". Where are people, who are tired of the
same ole' mainstream, no musicianship, talentless,
regurgitation-of-last-years-hit-songs, supposed to turn to
listen to real talent, crafty, imaginative and emotional
lyrics, dynamically written music (that IS actually HARD to
play, and even HARDER to compose), and bands that actually CARE
about their listeners and NOT about how many albums they sale
or if their video makes it to MTV. They turn to the RADIO.
Where are the good ole' days when bands like Floyd, Rush, Yes,
Genesis, and The Doors where played on the radio because they
WERE GREAT MUSICIANS and NOT because they made a video or this
band looks good in tight jeans, even though they can't sing,
play or write worth a shit. I wish 93x would consider WHAT
they are playing and WHY they are playing certain songs. I
don't discriminate any musical style or band based on any
reason, except for lack of talent (trying to substitute video
exposure or songs that contain no words except a chorus, and
the same rhythm over and over and over, ad nasium.....). It is
my understanding that someone high up in your station DECIDED
that since HE didn't like the song, then NO ONE else is going
to like it. Don't you make your money from advertisers?? And
don't they base their decision of which radio stations to post
their ads on the amount of listeners they have consistently??
You gain listeners by playing what THEY want to hear NOT what
you want to play for them (since it was decided by the
executives, who probably don't even LISTEN to the station they
work for). I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm trashing you, but
well I'm not. I have some strong emotional feelings for QUALITY
music, and for musicians that care for MUSIC in general (all
types) and not on making the al-mighty dollar. If you played,
for instance, Dream Theaters "Home" (off of "Scenes From A
Memory", due out Oct. 26) and you had a lot of listeners write
in and call saying they didn't want to hear that type of music
or that song, then I wouldn't blink an eye if you pulled
it(them) from the playing rotation. I would respect that. But
not playing a song because a few people don't like it doesn't
constitute neglecting the rest of you listening audience. All I
ask is that you listen to the requests and play the music
people want to hear. And I and all my friends wish to hear
"Home".
Thank you for caring enough to read this letter,
Matt
indii@vistatech.net
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:32:07 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Requests??
Message-ID: <iss.6a77.380d3737.dbe74.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
heh, they'll know you don't live around here....they've never played
anything from awake. as a matter of fact, they were an alternative station
from about 94-97. :)
"Pull Me Under" was a big song for them in 93, though.
-Brian
--
They'll take you to Cloughprior and shove you in the ground, but you stick
your head back out and shout, "We'll have another
round"
-Shane MacGowan
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>From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>Subject: Requests??
>Date: Tue, Oct 19, 1999, 10:23 PM
>
>
>
> Here is another one for you Al (i CC'ed you a copy)
>
>
> Do you guys listen to people who call in for requests? I and
> several of my friends have called in numerous times and
> requested "Home" by Dream Theater. These 5 musicians display
> more musical talent in one song than the rest of the "MTV"
> stuff you play in an hour. You have, in the past, played them
> by requests for earlier albums, including "Falling Into
> Infinity", and "Awake". Where are people, who are tired of the
> same ole' mainstream, no musicianship, talentless,
> regurgitation-of-last-years-hit-songs, supposed to turn to
> listen to real talent, crafty, imaginative and emotional
> lyrics, dynamically written music (that IS actually HARD to
> play, and even HARDER to compose), and bands that actually CARE
> about their listeners and NOT about how many albums they sale
> or if their video makes it to MTV. They turn to the RADIO.
> Where are the good ole' days when bands like Floyd, Rush, Yes,
> Genesis, and The Doors where played on the radio because they
> WERE GREAT MUSICIANS and NOT because they made a video or this
> band looks good in tight jeans, even though they can't sing,
> play or write worth a shit. I wish 93x would consider WHAT
> they are playing and WHY they are playing certain songs. I
> don't discriminate any musical style or band based on any
> reason, except for lack of talent (trying to substitute video
> exposure or songs that contain no words except a chorus, and
> the same rhythm over and over and over, ad nasium.....). It is
> my understanding that someone high up in your station DECIDED
> that since HE didn't like the song, then NO ONE else is going
> to like it. Don't you make your money from advertisers?? And
> don't they base their decision of which radio stations to post
> their ads on the amount of listeners they have consistently??
> You gain listeners by playing what THEY want to hear NOT what
> you want to play for them (since it was decided by the
> executives, who probably don't even LISTEN to the station they
> work for). I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm trashing you, but
> well I'm not. I have some strong emotional feelings for QUALITY
> music, and for musicians that care for MUSIC in general (all
> types) and not on making the al-mighty dollar. If you played,
> for instance, Dream Theaters "Home" (off of "Scenes From A
> Memory", due out Oct. 26) and you had a lot of listeners write
> in and call saying they didn't want to hear that type of music
> or that song, then I wouldn't blink an eye if you pulled
> it(them) from the playing rotation. I would respect that. But
> not playing a song because a few people don't like it doesn't
> constitute neglecting the rest of you listening audience. All I
> ask is that you listen to the requests and play the music
> people want to hear. And I and all my friends wish to hear
> "Home".
>
> Thank you for caring enough to read this letter,
> Matt
> indii@vistatech.net
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:50:29 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The radio crusade
Message-ID: <380D3C05.E953E1C8@home.com>
AL, I received an email reply from your radio station there in
Minneapolis. I must have gotten a little more receptive disc jockey
than you did. Here's my original message, and her reply..............
I said:
>>> Could you please play the single "Home" from the new Dream
>>> Theater album?
>>> Thanks!
>>> - Joe DeAngelo
Wendylyn Ellis replied:
> No problem, we'll play it again for ya!
> Thanks for listening to 93X!
- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:59:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jay Omega <jomega@legarto.minn.net>
To: Just Words <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Analog vs digital
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910192128070.13633-100000@legarto.minn.net>
We interrupt your regularly scheduled RadioAirPlayJam...
Pardon my rant. Skip this if you don't give a rat's behind
about analog/digital recording. Read it if you read Al's
post and don't like being misled. (absolutely nothing against
Al; I'm shooting the message, not the messenger.)
> Here is a little snippet I grabbed from Hard Radio's interview page.
> The interview is with Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> BD: People's ears have gotten so degraded because a CD is only sixteen bits.
People's ears are degraded from listening to their music too loud. ;-)
> Most people don't understand what "sixteen bits" means
Yup, most people don't. Bruce Dickinson included.
> Every molecule of iron oxide that moves is a bit. Until you've got, you
> know, three hundred thousand bit sampling.
Very true. Now, if we had 1) a recording method to use all those bits
on a tape, and 2) an analog recording method with infinite resolution,
rather than 80-90 dB or so, we'd be doing great. But we aren't using them
all, and a good number of them are recording noise instead of music.
Enough, in fact, that 16 bit digital has *more* resolution than analog.
> AS: They have all kinds of modules you can hook up to your digital stuff
> to make it sound like analog, but...
..by degrading the sound in some way. (You can't add information
that isn't on the recording. Fundamental Truth (tm). Anything that
changes the sound degrades it, except by blind luck.)
> BD: It will never sound like analog because it doesn't have the
> information.
Dr. Nyquist would take issue with that. :) A CD has 96 dB of resolution
from DC to 22.05 KHz. No more, no less. Analog tape can't even come
close. Vinyl can come close, but you've gotta spend $xx,xxx on
your playback equipment to touch what you can do with $x,xxx of digital
stuff. Very good vinyl can approach 80-85dB of resolution (in the
midrange anyway), and you've gotta be quite the Golden Ear to tell the
diff between 85dB and 96dB of resolution.
Now, if he said that 'recording companies don't use the info they have',
that's very true. Most recordings nowadays are compressed into a few dB
to make them LOUD. That's just a very unfortunate modern sentiment about
what Music Should Be (tm), and would likely be true whether we recorded
things digitally or not. (There's been an arguement on the audio
newsgroups lately about 'Crest Factor', which is a measure of this; the
ratio of the average sound level to the highest peak. I think someone
found a hip-hop/r&b/whatever type recording with about a 6dB factor.
That's hearsay, though. Don't quote me. :-)
> If you record it digitally, you will never have it; you're f**ked. In
> other words, when they bring in sixty-four bit CD's or DVD's, the
> Beatles records are going to sound unbelievable.
Unbelivable is a good word. 64 bits would be 384 dB of dynamic range.
I don't think anything on earth hits 200 (Jet takeoffs are around 130).
And dB are a logarithmic scale, like the Richter (sp?) scale for
earthquakes; adding 10 dB means 10 TIMES as much electrical power,
(+20 = 100x, +30 = 1000x... think what "250 dB louder than a jet
engine" implies.)
> People are going to go, "Wow, what did they do to the Beatles records?"
> Nothing. They always sounded like that, it's just that they sounded so
> lame on CD. And the fact is that vinyl, really good vinyl on an amazing
> system, kicks the shit out of the best CD on the planet. Whatever poor
> fools have recorded and mastered their albums thinking, "Hey, I recorded
> it on Sony 24 bit..." Hey, that's as good as it is ever going to sound,
> only 24 bit.
24 bit is 144 dB of dynamic range. Thermal noise in quality circuit
components is around -140dB from the actual signal. So, you're not quite
wasting a bit with 24 bit, if you've got a holy terror megabuck high-end
system. For the same reason, vinyl can _never_ sound better than 24
bit digital, until we go to all-optical playback mechanisms. No
'lectronics allowed, except the ones to generate the laser (!) to read
your vinyl record. :)
And, your listening room (unless you listen to your stereo in some
ultra-high-science isolation chamber) should have a noise floor, at
the absolute minimum, of 20dB. +144 = 164 dB. I don't wanna be in
that room when you crank it up. Or even in that house.
And, 0dB was chosen as 'the quietest sound an average person can hear'.
Even in that isolation chamber, +144dB above the threshold of hearing will
damage your hearing inside of a few seconds of listening. (see OSHA charts
on max allowable noise levels, if you care, at
http://headwize.com/articles/hearing_art.htm Then think, 20dB noise
floor, +96dB from today's CDs, -6dB for that worst-case crest factor, and
figure out... 30 minutes to hearing damage with that recording. And we
need more? No, we just need mastering engineers with more clue than
Mr. Dickinson is showing here.)
> So that's the end of my tirade against digital recording. What was the
> question?
The question is, Bruce, can you leave the engineering to the engineers?
Or at least don't make a fool of yourself publically like this. :-)
Further reading on the subject, drawn up by one of those hi-end audio
magazines, can be seen at http://www.theabsolutesound.com/dvdhope.htm
They're better at explaining it than me. (Dammit, Jim, I'm an engineer,
not an author!)
oh, yeah. </rant> :-)
--Jay "hates seeing misinformation propagated" Omega
--NP: Crimson Glory - Astronomica
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:23:11 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: carvin cyclops amp
Message-ID: <19991020042312.5472.qmail@hotmail.com>
has anyone played carvin's "Cyclops Combo" bass amp? I'm thinking of getting
one, but I'd like to know a little more about it...and has anyone used
Carvin's J-bass style pickups? Private email, please...thanks!
-Banjoman
p.s. Someone said a few jams ago that they couldn't stand Lemur Voice's lead
guy. I just heard Lemur Voice for the first time today, and I don't
understand how someone could not stand this guy...he's not great, but I
definitely wouldn't call him annoying...the one who I can't stand is Cairo's
lead guy, btw...oh well....
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT plays MSG regularly
Message-ID: <19991020043210.18955.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello everyone,
I know I posted this a few weeks ago when I heard
"Metropolis Part I" on a New York Rangers broadcast. I
went to my first game of the season in person tonight
(a heartbreaking 2-1 defeat to the San Jose Sharks)and
I was amazed to hear "Met. Part I" just before the
Rangers come out. It seems to be a regular feature for
every Ranger home game, once again proving the Rangers
are the best and classiest team in the NHL! : )
Take care,
Adam Perkowsky
(Perk's Puckheads in the Ytsejam Hockey League on
Yahoo)
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:01:40 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, ytsedave@asu.edu
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119
Message-ID: <380D4CB4.AB082BF1@home.com>
> I don't know if I'm looking into something that isn't there, or what. > In any case, its starting to remind me of Pink Floyd's "Division Bell" > cover and the contoversy surrounding it... :)
Could you tell me a little about this? I think Pink Floyd is great -
but I don't know anything special about the Division Bell cover.
Thanks!
- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:15:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff)
Message-ID: <19991020051536.17593.rocketmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi all! First post here, subscribed for about two
months. Anyhow, I don't know if this topic has been
broached before, but here goes...
1) for those of us who HAVEN'T heard "Home" (or any of
the rest of the album), how do you think Jordan's
playing will fit in w/ DT? It fits LTE perfectly...
but I have a hard time imagining how it will fit DT.
2) does anyone else think that Kevin's playing didn't
fit "Awake"? IMHO, DT should have remade "Awake" w/
Derek. His heavier tone would have fit that ablum
better.
o yeah, regarding remakes of WDADU... WDADU was
originally written as an instrumental album, right? I
would like to hear an instrumental remake. Am I on
crack?
Just a few thoughts runnin' though my mind as I await
the 26th...
-Dan
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:12:58 +0200
From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Zwolle, Nederland, anyone needs transport
Message-ID: <380D4F5A.5F28@wxs.nl>
Hi there!
I'll be renting a car to go from Utrecht to Zwolle on 11 November to
see Dream Theater. There's three places in the car if you want to join
me. It would be cool if you knew the way to the Ysselhal. Fuel and car
rent costs will be shared.
Contact me personally if you want to come along.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:47:09 +0200
From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5119
Message-ID: <380C05DD.EDCDA828@siol.net>
Yeps! It seems like we'r all getting this anemic message.. blah
Matej
>It looks to me like someone at that radio station has the filter and
>auto-reply all figured out on their E-mail software
>
>Jonathan D Willey wrote:
>
>> I wrote this to 93X yesterday!!! Below is the letter I wrote and the
>> reponse I got back!
>> 93X WROTE:
>>
>> ****No problem, we'll play it again for ya!
>> Thanks for listening to 93X!****
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:51:32 -0500
From: Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jason_Becker=B4s_new_cd?=
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991020015132.007a78f0@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
Just to let everyone know (in case you haven=B4t noticed) that Jason Becker=
=B4s
new cd, entitled "Raspberry Jams", is now on sale at CDNOW (how long has it
been on sale anyway?) for the moderate price of $12.99.
It has more cd tracks that you can count with your fingers and toes
and.....nevermind.
With that number of tracks, i think i shouldn=B4t expect any 5 or plus minut=
e
song....
Anybody heard it? Is it good?
Mauricio
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Date: 20 Oct 99 02:56:19 EDT
From: Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Howard Stern
Message-ID: <19991020065619.29256.qmail@nwcst293.netaddress.usa.net>
I remember once Howard had the intro to the Mirror off Awake playing
underneath some spoken word-stuff... It was about a month and a half ago=
, as
I recall... I had intended to mail the ytsejam about it but kinda forgot=
=2E
mjt
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:25:46 -0500
From: "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@iserve.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Mike Portnoy Update-Spoilers
Message-ID: <380D6E7A.86548551@iserve.net>
SPOILERS** SPOILERS** For those of you who get Modern Drummer Magazine, you may
have already read the update. You who haven't or don't get MD and DO NOT want
to know about the
new album...STOP READING NOW!!!
The new album is a cross between Pink Floyd's The Wall, Queensryche's
Operation:Mindcrime, and
Marillion'sMisplaced Childhood. Scenes From A Memory is a seventy-five minute
magnum opus.
One massive piece broken down into several smaller pieces, including TWO
instrumentals. Mike
also stated that they plan to play the new material IN ITS ENTIRETY when they
begin touring.
Furthermore, the new side group of his is called SMPT. And if that's not enough,
his new instructional vidoe will be released soon.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 04:22:54 -0400
From: "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Gordian Knot
Message-ID: <380D7BDE.4A63A75@unc.edu>
Mike Patrick wrote:
>
> ... What about Gordian Knot? Behind the
> Curtain? ...
Hehe. Gordian Knot is simply amazing. I really dig Cynic, so Gordian
Knot was a very simple and natural "transition" of sorts. Hmm, I think
I'm going to slap it in my CD-ROM now. ;-)
Truly, there is some amazing complex interplay that (surprise) sounds
quite reminiscent of Cynic. John Myung does a good job, too, on
whichever track he plays... ?
-d
--
Daniel T. Chen
daniel_chen@unc.edu
NP : Rush - "The Big Money"
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:36:42 +0200
From: Oddvar L?v?s <flail@online.no>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: new album cover (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <jUsT.aNoTheR.mEsSaGe.iD.94040850017825@www.mailreader.com>
>Alrighty - upon investigation of the filenames of the 50x50 pixel album
>cover "puzzle pieces" on UACM and the Elektra website, I've found
that each
>piece is named something relating to a piece of DT history. I have
created
>a page on my web site that shows the correspondance between the
filenames
>and the pictures. I have also compiled both websites' pieces onto
one page.
I investigated the same thing, but I came to the conclusion that
the pics just have random DT-related names for fun... I mean, what's
the relationship between Sabian and the thing on that particular
pic?
And how about all the almost-black pictures? What do they have to
do with "Jordan" or "Lie"?
I also tried different names to get more pictures, but discovered
that they probarbly upload new ones each day, because the ones at
Electra which weren't at dreamtheater.net were there the next day
with the same name...
flail / Oddvar Lovaas
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:57:52 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Strange title for new album
Message-ID: <4953e10067graham@picsel.com>
I was browsing through a UK-based online CD retailer's catalogue, when I
came upon the following entry for Dream Theater. I *assume* this is the
new DT album they're talking about.
(Spoiler alert, etc, etc)
http://www.101cd.com/orev01.asp?title=1612909
Hmmmmm. :-)
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:33:33 -0400
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: keyboardist can 'o' worms (and other stuff)
Message-ID: <380DA88D.5B5ADAAF@yunque.net>
********* SPOILERS SORT OF ***********************************
Dan Wait wrote:
> Hi all! First post here, subscribed for about two
> months. Anyhow, I don't know if this topic has been
> broached before, but here goes...
>
> 1) for those of us who HAVEN'T heard "Home" (or any of
> the rest of the album), how do you think Jordan's
> playing will fit in w/ DT? It fits LTE perfectly...
> but I have a hard time imagining how it will fit DT.
Imo he fits real well, i was one of the more "weary" people here, since i absolutely love dereks playing...anyhow, now im
curious as to how the previous Met2 that they wrote with derek sounded like, because im pretty certain some of Sfam is stuff
they wrote with derek (that would explain how they penned a concept album this good , this fast) since theres alot of keyboard
parts that sound totally derek style.
Now jordan does an incredible job in sfam, and this is coming from someone who doesnt really like jordan's style. The only
negative thing imo on this album, is jordans solos ( his double leads with petrucci are awesome and jawdropping tho) but his
solos are sort of uninspired and un memorable (all this IMO )
>
>
> 2) does anyone else think that Kevin's playing didn't
> fit "Awake"? IMHO, DT should have remade "Awake" w/
> Derek. His heavier tone would have fit that ablum
> better.
I dont know about this, IMO Awake is kevins best work within the band..he reaches a new spectrum of sounds, instead of the
strings/piano/sawtooth/ that he almost exclusively used on I&W. Although the differences in acos with Kevin and acos with derek
are really interesting tho, i wouldnt want anyone to touch awake..since its my favorite album :) ...till now ;P! In any case,
dt always has said theyd never even re-record WDADU...much less a masterpiece like Awake.
>
>
> o yeah, regarding remakes of WDADU... WDADU was
> originally written as an instrumental album, right? I
> would like to hear an instrumental remake. Am I on
> crack?
>
I think all albums are written instrumental, then the lyrics/vocal melodies are added, in any case i think it was I&W that the
guys even performed most of the songs instrumentally while they were sans singer..
>
> =====
> Hobbes: Do you have an idea for your story yet?
> Calvin: No, I'm waiting for inspiration. You can't just turn on creativity like a faucet. You have to be in the right mood.
> Hobbes: What mood is that?
> Calvin: Last-minute panic.
> _________________________________
GOD i absolutely LOVE calvin and hobbes... --
Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back.
Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind.
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:37:22 -0400
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: sorry
Message-ID: <380DA972.520CF130@yunque.net>
about the non wrapped email...
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:49:17 -0400
From: Brian Lundy <Styles@injersey.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: It Worked!!! (I think)
Message-ID: <380DAC3D.F3D5B342@injersey.com>
Hi all,
I sent in a request to Al's radio crusade, here's what I got back! My original message is just below it.
>No problem, we'll play it again for ya!
>Thanks for listening to 93X!
-----Original Message-----
]From: Brian Lundy [SMTP:Styles@injersey.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:51 PM
To: mail@93x.com
Subject: a simple request
Hi everyone,
I've been a fan of the group, "Dream Theater", ever
since their second album, "Images and Words". The new album is due out
on Tuesday, Oct.26th, and the first single off the album, HOME, is out
already on Hard Radio. I was wondering if you were planning on playing
the song too. If not, then I'd like to request it. I definitely
believe it belongs in heavy rotation. I was eternally grateful to a
friend who made me listen to them, a decade ago, and I'd like to share
them with the rest of your audience. Give them a shot, I'm sure
you'll like them.
Thanks!
Brian L.
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