YTSEJAM Digest 5118
Today's Topics:
1) Re: request onslaught update
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
2) Does anyone have the Images/Awake/ACOS font?
by ShadowBor@aol.com
3) While on the subject of Yngwie
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
4) Zoom 506 Bass Effect
by Scarred2112@aol.com
5) "HOME"
by "Paul Tadday" <PaulTad@bigpond.com>
6) Queensryche/The Tea Party???
by Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
7) Re: No place like Home?
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
8) Analog vs digital - Amanda vs Al
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
9) Producer
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
10) Re: Tiles
by "Mike Patrick" <mvpatrick@home.com>
11) Re: Fates Warning
by "Mark Lent" <lent_mark@hotmail.com>
12) Full version of Home
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
13) Yes - Atlanta Oct 16th...
by Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
14) Wicked City's webpage
by "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
15) Malmsteen tour?! (NDTC)
by "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
16) Re: darth vader, white light, etc.
by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
17) "Strange Deja Vu" vs. "Home"
by "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
18) Re: No place like Home?
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
19) Re: Subject: Home (SPOILERS!!!
by Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
20) Re: Tiles
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
21) Mastermind cd on ebay
by Kevin Villines <kvill@flash.net>
22) email list for BCC:
by "satumma onnekas" <satumma@hotmail.com>
23) Spoiler warning for the Dutch
by "Marcel Schot" <neuronix@writeme.com>
24) Home request.
by "Yan E." <yanelmar@rieder.net.py>
25) Re: "HOME" (imho)
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
26) Re: Full version of Home (slight spoiler???)
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
27) new album reviews (non DT!)
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:03:29 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: request onslaught update
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991019070329.01571bb0@pi-r-squared.com>
>As for The Buzz being the first openly alternative
>station, I must disagree. I think ZRock was the
>first. It's old call number was 106.9, but now it's a
>Christian station (I dunno who made that call). They
>shut down my 8th grade year, I think. If we wanted to
>be real smart asses, we could e-mail 104 KRBE and tell
>them to play that hot new single from Dream Theater. :o)
>
Dude, hell no! Z-Rock was pure metal radio! (though it was starting to go
alternative around the time it died). It was nationally syndicated metal
radio. Not only was it the first place I ever heard of DT, but (get this):
they also held a contest one year and the winner got guitar lessons from:
guess who.... that's right! Jon Petrucci! some lucky guy with a winning dog
tag number got teachings from the man himself. Gods.. I miss Z-Rock. Anyway,
what relevance does any of this stuff arguing over this station have to the
list? I say this:
When requesting the song, make sure it's within the station's parameters.
IMO asking the Buzz to play Home would be like asking a country station..
it's a waste of time and effort that coule be put to productive use
elsewhere. The same could be said of other radio stations, in any town.
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his
house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:53:42 EDT
From: ShadowBor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Does anyone have the Images/Awake/ACOS font?
Message-ID: <0.56304861.253d6f76@aol.com>
I thought this would be easy to find, but I've been through quite a few DT
sites now and no one seems to have it or mention what it is (including the
FAQ). What is the name of the font and where (if anywhere) can I download it?
Rob
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:10:20 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: While on the subject of Yngwie
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991019071020.0159e2f0@pi-r-squared.com>
I was doin my shift at the library today, and I was talkin to this Rush fan.
I asked him if he'd heard DT and he was like "yah! Isn't that the band with
that... Yngwie guy in it?" THere's one I've never heard before. Go fig.
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his
house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:37:14 EDT
From: Scarred2112@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Zoom 506 Bass Effect
Message-ID: <0.61aa3e4a.253d79aa@aol.com>
For the money, you can't go wrong with the Zoom. Sure, it's not exactly
Hi-fi (Al, don't get on my case!), but the chorus effect is really nice (the
"Crystal" chorus is especially great on softer songs). If you tweak the
distortion patches, you can get some killer sounds (I use my whammy pedal
with them, and my guitarist runs into the corner! Spring for the expression
pedal also, it's $50, but worth it for the volume control alone. If you've
got $350, buy the Digitech BP-8 Paradigm (can't go wrong with a unit named
after a LTE song!), but for under $100 US, the Zoom is a great bargain.
Scarred
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:38:17 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <PaulTad@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: "HOME"
Message-ID: <003001bf1a04$e9fb11c0$f6c6868b@user>
Sorry guys!!!!
After having just heard the radio-edit version of "HOME", I fail to find ANY
reason why anyone would NOT cream their pants over this album!!!!
IT F***IN' ROCKS!!!!
I am now even more excited about hearing this album in its entirity!!!!
IMO, if this little taster is any indication of the songwriting/production
of the rest of the album, it will no doubt be the "masterpiece" that we have
all been anticipating!!!
"MINDCRIME" BEWARE!!! You may be about to lose your mantle as my favourite
album of all time!!!
Paul.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:01:59 -0600
From: Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Queensryche/The Tea Party???
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991019020158.006c0c08@pop02.syspac.com>
At 12:00 AM 10/19/99 -0700, Kurt wrote:
>ohh, anyone who is going to see Queensryche on their US tour, Doubledrive
>is the opening act. In Europe the Tea Party is opening. I personally
>LOVE doubledrive, they are by far the best new act in a long time.
WOW! I wish I could be in Europe this winter to see that. IMO, tho, I
think that QR should be opening for the Tea Party (flames welcome :), but
nonetheless that's a really smooth show. That "Edges of Twilight" album is
simply amazing. I liked their last two albums, but EoT is probably my
favorite because I'm not much for techno-ish beats. Their singer is simply
amazing.
hasta,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff,
Vince LuPone
Guitarist for Obscure
http://www.ivorygate.com/obscure/
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:11:55 -0400
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: No place like Home?
Message-ID: <001501bf1a1a$600e8760$3221f7a5@com>
I've got to at least say to those of you who've only heard "Home", don't be
dismayed, it's my least favorite track on the disc! There are some stellar
tracks on this CD.
~~Art
Webmaster
http://www.joestump.com
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign
then it's only a matter of time"
-Kevin Moore, Dream Theater 1989
<<<Ok, so I succumbed and downloaded the radio edit. I'm not impressed.
<snip>
--Amanda<<<
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:10:51 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Analog vs digital - Amanda vs Al
Message-ID: <380C51BB.92D88CF5@isd.net>
Hi gang!
Here is a little snippet I grabbed from Hard Radio's interview page.
The interview is with Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith.
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The conversation moves to digital versus analog recording:
BD: People's ears have gotten so degraded because a CD is only sixteen bits. Most people
don't understand what "sixteen bits" means-they think sixteen bit is good. Every
molecule of iron oxide that moves is a bit. Until you've got, you know, three hundred
thousand bit sampling.
AS: They have all kinds of modules you can hook up to your digital stuff to make it
sound like analog, but...
BD: It will never sound like analog because it doesn't have the information. If you
record it digitally, you will never have it; you're f**ked. In other words, when they
bring in sixty-four bit CD's or DVD's, the Beatles records are going to sound
unbelievable. People are going to go, "Wow, what did they do to the Beatles records?"
Nothing. They always sounded like that, it's just that they sounded so lame on CD.
And the fact is that vinyl, really good vinyl on an amazing system, kicks the shit out
of the best CD on the planet. Whatever poor fools have recorded and mastered their
albums thinking, "Hey, I recorded it on Sony 24 bit..." Hey, that's as good as it is
ever going to sound, only 24 bit. So that's the end of my tirade against digital
recording. What was the question?
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Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
>And now back to your regularly scheduled all Al, all the time, mailing list.
Lighten up girlie! I'm on a quest. Besides, if you want all Al all the time, It'll
cost you. I'm thinking a back rub while we listen to the new album would
suffice.. You CAN keep your mouth shut for 74 minutes, right? ;o)
/Al puts his asbestos pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else.
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:44:17 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Producer
Message-ID: <v04210105b432088f0c7e@[192.168.1.1]>
>The listing at the CD-Universe lists the new CD as Rock/Pop and the
>name of the
>producer is Kevin Shirley?? Any ideas?????
Nonsense. Kevin mixed some of the tracks on the album, that's all.
Steffen
--
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THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:27:49 -0400
From: "Mike Patrick" <mvpatrick@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Tiles
Message-ID: <002301bf1a24$f99687c0$6da20418@CT466024-A.nblvil1.in.home.com>
>O.k. so ALL these people are talking about this prog band Tiles, they're
>touring throughout Europe with DT...so what the hell, I figure I'll buy the
>album and check it out. So...anyone wanna buy Tiles "Presents of Mind"????
I
>REALLY cannot get into this album, sure they're talented, the album cover
is
>TOTALLY badass...but it's definetly not my thang. I personally reccomend
all
>Jammers who were considering buying this CD to give it a listen first!
When you say 'listen before you buy', you need to qualify your objections.
Tell us what you don't like. I'm open to any and all opinions.
Me, I always wanted Rush to have a slightly harder, groove-oriented sounds.
Tiles. A progmetal band that doesn't sound even REMOTELY influenced by DT?
Tiles. Those two things alone make it sound pretty fresh to me...
Mike
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:59:24 JST
From: "Mark Lent" <lent_mark@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Message-ID: <19991019125925.38517.qmail@hotmail.com>
Al Switchcraft wrote:
>I'm torn between APSoG and No Exit for my personal favorite.
>"The Ivory Gate of Dreams" gives me goose bumps! Ray Alder is >amazing.
>I REALLY like Fates Warning. (post John Arch) That being said... >I'll
>list my favs in order:
>A Pleasant Shade of Gray
>No Exit
>Perfect Symmetry
>Parallels
>Inside Out
>Still Life
>Chasing Time
Basically I agree with this. But I wonder where
Awaken the Guardian is... I'd put it between No Exit and PS.
Definitely for me APSoG is their best album. It is heavier than
their other recent releases.
As for production, I`d have to say that I care more about the songwriting
than the production, e.g., the first DT album that I ever heard was WDADU.
The production was awful, but I loved the song style enough to buy their
next release. And I`m glad I did. James LaBrie is a much better singer.
(And the production is better, too.)
--
Mark Lent
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:16:39 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Full version of Home
Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CBAC@bham-xchg>
Guys,
]From: Jonathan
>can you tell me where I can get the full version of home? I would ask the
>jam but i don't feel like getting flamed at all right now... I have the
>radio edit... I just want a copy of the long version to set my soul at
>ease....
Ok, your best bet is to go here : http://listen.to/progged/ You not
only get to tune into a pretty good Internet Prog Radio show, but you can go
to the requests section and request "Home", and they will play the full
length version...! And yes it kicks arse..!
Dave (a UK jammer).
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:54:45 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dave.ware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Yes - Atlanta Oct 16th...
Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CBAE@bham-xchg>
Ok,
So, we (me and wifey) arrived at about 7:15. There was a big queue
which snaked around the whole building, I think the Tabernacle holds around
2000, and this placed was sold out solid. The venue was quite small, and I
can't describe the excitement as we walked into the room to see Alan White's
drum kit - just there in front of me... We got right to the front (on the
left), so when Yes took the stage (to the resounding sounds of the "Firebird
Suite") Steve Howe was about 3 feet away from us...oh baby...!
He cranked into "Yours Is No Disgrace", the crowd went mad, my wife
started crying and an emotional night of Yes Music kicked off in a big way.
Steve was great, so concentrated, so close to us. Jon was great, his
singing is perfect, he smiles and waves to everyone, he seems so happy with
where he is at the moment, dressed all in white, he seems so angelic and
spiritual, I would love to meet this guy, it would be an uplifting
experience I'm sure. Chris was on fire, he jumps around and has a great
time, again smiling at the whole crowd. Billy was confident, he does great
backing vocals and doesn't seem too phased at being the new boy. He
introduced "Cinema" (and played it really well). They also did "Owner of a
Lonely Heart" and "Hearts", with Billy expertly taking all of Trevor Rabin's
parts (vox and guitars). Alan played excellently, but somehow always looks
like it's very hard work. Igor (the new keys man) played well but seemed a
little annonymous (but he was kind of hidden from view a lot).
They played 5 tracks off of "The Ladder" and really seemed to be
into their new stuff (which is no suprise as it is their best work for
years). The only gripe is that the volume was too much, not only for us but
for the guys on stage, they all spent too much time motioning to the sound
guy to turn down the monitors, it was a shame, the night would have been
perfect otherwise. High points - "Homeworld" was amazing and comes across
so well in a live setting, the hypnotic middle section of "Awaken" with Jon
playing the harp (and Chris on a 3 neck bass), and the beautiful "Nine
Voices". A great night - if Yes come anywhere near you on this tour - go
and see them - they are amazing, I'm hoping to catch them in the UK next
year at the Royal Albert Hall...!
Set List -
Firebird Suite, Yours Is No Disgrace, Time and a Word (excerpt), Homeworld,
Perpetual Change, Lightning Strikes, New Language, Nous Sommes Du Soleil
(excerpt), Cinema, Owner of a Lonely Heart, It Will Be a Good Day, Face To
Face, Hearts, Nine Voices, Awaken, I've Seen All Good People, And You And I,
Roundabout
Later,
Dave (a UK jammer).
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:01:49 PDT
From: "Marvin Williamson" <marvin_w@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Wicked City's webpage
Message-ID: <19991019140150.46195.qmail@hotmail.com>
Check it out!!!!
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/56/wicked_city.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:52:19 -0400
From: "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Malmsteen tour?! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199910191407.HAA26814@fugazi.torchsong.com>
Hello jammerz!
I read on the jam that Yngwie is touring.. does anyone know all his tour
dates.. could I find them somewhere on the web?! I just hope he comes around
here!!!!!
Thanks in advance
Mr. ProG
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:04:29 -0200
From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: darth vader, white light, etc.
Message-ID: <199910190700142@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>]From: Sigit Prabowo <tekppg04@bni.co.id>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:06 PM
>Subject: darth vader, white light, etc.
>
>those of you trying to avoid spoilers, i think its safe to just set >a filter
>up to delete anything from the esteemed Sigit Prabowo, as he seems >bent on
>spoiling as much of the secret as possible for everyone. skadz must >not be
>up to date on the jam. moo.
>--
Couldn't agree more with you here... I'm not a very bright guy, but after reading his original post, I guess it doesn't take very much to realize why MP has wanted to keep this album such a secret... Anyway, I won't say I'm pissed and that it's ruined the album for me (haven't heard anything yet, not even the soundclips...), I'll still go out and get it as soon as I can, but since Skadz was so serious about not allowing especulations about the album here in the Jam, he should have stopped that from coming...
Later,
Adriano
"A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain"
DREAM THEATER
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:45:50 -0400
From: "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: "Strange Deja Vu" vs. "Home"
Message-ID: <380C841E.DB751C5@unc.edu>
Hi folks,
There was a bit posted earlier on the choice of "Home" as a single
versus "Strange Deja Vu." I have to agree with the comment that the
latter would have been a more choice single, but that's only because I
really dig the segues from "Regression"-> "Overture 1928"-> "Strange
Deja Vu." Yum, reminds me of Rush with its chord layering.
Speaking of Rush (somewhat related...?), what are your opinions on
Tiles - Presents of Mind? I ordered this CD several weeks ago from
CDNow, but it has yet to show up at my door. I blame the University's
slow mail delivery. ;-)
-d
--
Daniel T. Chen
daniel_chen@unc.edu
NP : Adrian Legg - "Lunchtime at Rosie's" (w/ Eric Johnson)
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:07:40 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: No place like Home?
Message-ID: <380C893C.3861E096@wezl.org>
Just remember it's a "Radio Edit" and that's all I'm gonna say about
that
Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
>
> Ok, so I succumbed and downloaded the radio edit. I'm not impressed.
> First thoughts on the first minute or so was that I was listening to
> Drain STH with Mike Portnoy on vocals.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Subject: Home (SPOILERS!!!
Message-ID: <19991019151952.5878.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com>
Chris,
I haven't been priveliged to hear the radio edit
of Home, but I have heard the album version on
Progged Radio. It is approximately 10-12 minutes
long, maybe longer. If you listen to the words,
there are strong references to Metropolis Pt1.
Even when it is fading out you hear snippets of
the intro to Met Pt1 in the background. I am not
saying that this is Met Pt2, but what I am saying
is that there is a "lot" going on in the music. I
had an oppertunity to hear some of the other
music on Progged Radio and let me say this, NO
ONE WILL BE DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. If you
are, you need to have your head examined. There
is some insane, twisted, upside down madness
happening on this new album. I literally sat
listening with my jaw on the floor in disbelief
of what I was hearing.-----Folks, this will be,
in my opinion, the best DT album to date.
Take my word for it.
That is my opinion for what it is worth.
Glen
>Chris Oates Wrote:
>From: Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
>
>So I listened to the Home radio edit. Not
>over-impressed on the first 5 or
>so listens. I still want to break JP's wah-wah
>pedal. And I can't hear
>Jordan much until the end. If this was the only
>thing I knew about the
>album, I would not see it as a major shift away
>from the FII sound (not
>making a good or bad judgement on that
statement,
>just an observation.
>Interpret it as you will)
>
>Since I do have an idea of what else is coming
>(i'm sticking to the veil,
>so I don't know any info other than what's been
>officially released) I'm
>still very excited, but I think DT should have
>>released a really heavy song
>as a single (if there is one) -- I just don't
see
>Home getting a lot of
>airplay in today's radio market. It's becoming
>catchy melodically, but it
>doesn't have the crunch of the other singles,
>like "Burning My Soul" "Lie"
>or even "Pull Me Under"
>
>that's just my 2/5 of a nickel.
>
> ~Chris
=====
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centers our perspectives
and pacifies our cries."
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:21:03 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Tiles
Message-ID: <380C8C5F.FDDF355B@wezl.org>
Mike Patrick wrote:
I don't really know how to explain it...the lead singer sounds like the
guy from Great White...but with an annoying quality to his voice, and
the music just seems like they're trying too hard to be Prog...as a
freind of mine would say (and I usually disagree with him on these
matters) they're completely a DT wannabe band...who just doesn't
compare...IMHO. I would definetly reccomend people check out Shadow
Gallery or the first Lemur Voice before bothering with Tiles. But who
knows...the more prog stuff I hear (and I've heard a shit-load of it)
the more I realise DT is one in a million, and there's a reason why they
are one of the few who've been successful at what they do.
> When you say 'listen before you buy', you need to qualify your objections.
> Tell us what you don't like. I'm open to any and all opinions.
>
> Me, I always wanted Rush to have a slightly harder, groove-oriented sounds.
> Tiles. A progmetal band that doesn't sound even REMOTELY influenced by DT?
> Tiles. Those two things alone make it sound pretty fresh to me...
>
> Mike
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:33:19 -0500
From: Kevin Villines <kvill@flash.net>
To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mastermind cd on ebay
Message-ID: <380C8F3F.7F94FCDE@flash.net>
I'm auctioning off the Live in Tokyo cd on ebay in case anyone is
interested. It is limited to 1,000 (#76), is autographed, and is out of
print:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=184429271
Thanks for looking, Kevin.
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kvill@flash.net">http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=kvill@flash.net
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:47:07 PDT
From: "satumma onnekas" <satumma@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: email list for BCC:
Message-ID: <19991019154707.51978.qmail@hotmail.com>
What I would like to see... i tried doing it but I dont have nearly enough
time or the resources. Can someone get a listing, seperated by commas of all
the email addresses on the dreamtheater.net so I can write a nice generic
emal requesting "home" and BCC the rest of the stations?
thank you, please post to the jam so other people can participate.
thank you
bruce
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:15:12 +0200
From: "Marcel Schot" <neuronix@writeme.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Spoiler warning for the Dutch
Message-ID: <199910191815120090.028AF131@Sylvester>
Hi all and especially the Dutch,
A warning for those who don't want to know about the new album :
The Dutch metal magazine Aardschok has a review of the new album in the new
issue (Issue 11, 1999), including a picture of the artwork. In the same
issue there's an interview with the band, so if you really don't want to
know about the new album before the release, I suggest to avoid the
magazine until that time. So much for a veil of secrecy, it's probably
better not to advertise and release promo's next time.
Marcel Schot
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:52:34 -0400
From: "Yan E." <yanelmar@rieder.net.py>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Home request.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991019135234.007b7b60@mail.rieder.net.py>
Hey gang ! whatzupp over there.
Well, I've been on the list for almost a year know and made a few posts,
but never presented myself properly and politely. Most of #mikechat
frequenters will know me as korg_74 .... sooooo.....
Hi there!
Well, I live in Paraguay (that's South America, just in case) and was
wondering if I can send too the requests at the radios listed here on the
jam. I want to help out the guys, but I dont want to screw up your efforts
either, due to the .py on my mail address.. Any suggestions ?
just tell me to go ahead, and I'll do it !
On the other hand....
TRENT: WTF a nacho is ????????
C ya !
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:35:23 -0500
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: "HOME" (imho)
Message-ID: <19991019.103524.265.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
How can people pass judgment on a 5 minute DT song? DT songs are made to
be "epic's" of sort and not to be cut into 5 minute "pieces" (but if it
get's airplay then do it by all means...). You are only hearing half of
the song (or only eating a "piece" of the pie... if I may)... I've hear
both edits (yeah, i succumbed... so what!) and the song in it's entirity
just flat out rocks... imo...
Let's just wait a few more days till we all freak out over what we are
hearing...
NP: DT Medley : DT tribute album (listen.to/progged)
Jonathan Willey A.T.,C.
Washington State Athletic Medicine
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:44:19 -0500
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Full version of Home (slight spoiler???)
Message-ID: <19991019.104900.265.2.willeyatc@juno.com>
Thanks to everyone who sent me info on the long version... I have been a
faithful listener to Progradio (listen.to/progged) for a while now but
sometimes you have to wade through some "crap" imho before you can
request and hear home....
thanks for the help though...
Jonathan Willey A.T.,C.
Washington State Athletic Medicine
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
To: "DT list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: new album reviews (non DT!)
Message-ID: <19991019175001.15208.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com>
Well my latest cdnow shipment contained:
1. Mullmuzzler-This cd isn't bad. James sounds like he usually does on DT.
Productionwise I would say something is lacking here. Its probably just the
typical magna carta thing. Musicwise the guys james got are great. This disc
isn't dt but it is very good.
2. Queensryche:Q2k-this cd is ok. Basically to me just rehashed stuff that
they previously did. More listens may be needed but QR doesn't seem to be
progressing anywhere good.
3. Tiles-this cd is ok but another overly ranted and raved disc by some
members on this list. It definitely isn't the second coming of DT. I think
the vocalist and the production isn't great either. I just think too many
bands are jumping on the progmetal bandwagon where there are a few great
bands and many so-so bands.
4. Jim Matheos new one-for the type of music this disc is (new agish) its
good.
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