YTSEJAM Digest 5113
Today's Topics:
1) European Q2K
by markus.tenberge@gmx.de
2) FAQ
by "Paul Tadday" <PaulTad@bigpond.com>
3) Spolier (sort of) about 'Home'
by Eric Joseph Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
4) Australian Yngwie Malmsteen tourdates
by Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au>
5) RE: Hitler radio
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
6) Re:Crocodiles All of Them!
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
7) The Twin Cities needs a douche
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
8) Vanden Plas new album
by "Mark Lent" <lent_mark@hotmail.com>
9) I don't have a f*?#ing car!!!
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
10) Veil Of Secrecy/CDNOW
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
11) Re: Veil Of Secrecy/CDNOW
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
12) a point of view
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
13) Re: No DTC, Boss Me 30, Doors
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
14) Re: I don't have a f*?#ing car!!!
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:46:04 -0100
From: markus.tenberge@gmx.de
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: European Q2K
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991015214604.007b2880@mail-in.ivx.de>
A long time ago, Toby wrote ...
< From: "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
< There was a rumored
< bonus track on a European release called "'Til There Was You," but no one
< has confirmed its existence or lack thereof as of yet.
So far, there's no bonus track like this on the actual edition of Q2K ...
Later
Markus
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:32:33 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <PaulTad@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: FAQ
Message-ID: <003401bf1787$17992700$65c3868b@user>
Hey All.
Thanks heaps to everyone who e-mailed me about my question concernong SDV.
Your info was all helpful. Damn that FAQ page makes awesome reading.
There are 2 main issues that concern me about DT now...
1. Can't wait until the 26th (probably November here in Oz).
2. MP, if you're reading this... Get your arse down here to Australia and
give us some shows!!!!! PLEAZE!!!! *LOL* We've been waiting for eternity!
C'ya!
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:12:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric Joseph Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Spolier (sort of) about 'Home'
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9910160010510.17733-100000@jet.cc.emory.edu>
For those that have heard home (the whole song), is it me didn't LTE do
parts of the song during their improvisational jam in concert. I have the
TLA show and there is a very similar riff. I could not remember when they
went into studio, but I think it was after the tour. Anyway, just wanted
to know if anyone else heard the same thing. Private email is fine.
thanks.
-Eric
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:07:39 +1000
From: Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au>
To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Australian Yngwie Malmsteen tourdates
Message-ID: <3808162B.CBF1BD99@powerup.com.au>
Just in case any Aussie 'Jammers are interested, Yngwie is touring here
in November. Here are the dates:
November 18 - Melbourne (The Palace)
November 19 - Sydney (Selinas)
November 21 - Brisbane (Arena)
Gordo
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:37:07 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: Wendylyn.Ellis@abc.com
Subject: RE: Hitler radio
Message-ID: <38082B23.FC399072@isd.net>
Wendylyn Ellis wrote:
>Thank you for your e-mail. It is nice to see that Dream Theater has such a
>huge fan. But there are many discrepancies in your e-mail that I thought
>should be brought to your attention. First off, Dream Theater is not even
>close to being in the top 100 cd list - the cd is not even released! It was
That's where you are wrong. My claim can be validated by visiting CD Now and
actually LOOKING. here is the link:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=641273476/pagename=/RP/TOP100/index.html
The Dream Theater CD is in 38th place, and it hasn't even been released yet.
The sales figure is for pre-orders as well as already available material.
>just this week that the label is trying to go for "adds". As for your
>comment about our station playing all new music that passes our desk, that
>would be impossible. We play a lot of new music, but our station would suck
Again, you're off the mark. I said: "within your format." This CD qualifies.
>if that was all we did. Never hearing Black Sabbath, Metallica, AC/DC, or
>any other great band unless they release a new song just a week or so ago?
I never requested you to stop playing the older material, just not as repetitively.
Look at the Metallica, AC/DC, Limp Biskit, and Megadeth count; Overplaying
material can be counterproductive. With the amount of coverage "Reload"
received, I never had to purchase the CD. I was sick of it without having to
line the pockets of the record company executives.
>And think of all the songs that never would even become familiar to you
>because you are only allowed to hear it for a week or so on the radio? That
Oh yeah.. I'm sure there is still thousands of regular 93X listeners that have
yet to hear "nookie."
>is not our radio station and never will be. I'm sorry if that is what you
>want, and if you find us "stagnant" - we'll just tune into talk radio then.
>I guess the reason we are looked up to Nationwide is because we suck so
>much.......................
Grow up... You forgot to add: "nah nah nah boo boo"
>We listen to our listeners and take their requests - and honestly you may be
>the only person that is asking us to play this new song. It also helps if
I know that to be false. I've had several people tell me they have called and
requested this material. As a matter of fact, someone else informed me why
the song was not being aired; He learned this info upon his request.
>their label even has any interest in this band and their new cd. Be patient.
You may very well be right on this one... I guess if they had large tits, tight little
asses, and no talent whatsoever, KDWB would be playing them hourly.
>We add new songs every week. Just because we didn't "add" Dream Theater
>this week, doesn't mean we won't in the future.
I guess I don't understand why THIS album is being ignored when three previous
albums were supported by THIS station.
>We hope you keep listening, but if this song means so much to you that you
>won't listen to us anymore - well I guess that's that. Sorry,
That's entirely up to you...
>P.S. - See how nice we are? We even answered you despite your nasty "Hitler
>Radio" comment, what's up with that anyway?
You can thank your music director for that one. My associate informed me that
that person single-handedly made the choice for the entire metro area.
Kinda sounds like Nazi radio programming to me.
"We know what is best for you"
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Original message:
To whom it may concern:
A friend informed me of your stations "we play what WE think is good" programming
policy. I assumed this station played ALL new material within the stations format and
let the listening public decide what THEY wanted to hear. Request information was
compiled to aid in developing a play list for regular rotation.
It's been brought to my attention that your music director has single-handedly kept
the soon to be released (available in promo) Dream Theater CD from seeing the light of
day. Have you been to CD now and seen their top 100 sales list? Last I looked the DT
album was in the 30s. Yet YOU have decided that WE would not be interested in hearing
this new material.
The twin Cities music scene is tainted enough without the added censorship on your
part. If KQRS had this same attitude in the late 60s and early 70s, bands like YES,
Jethro Tull, Rush, Deep purple, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep, and Emerson Lake & Palmer
would have never been supported in the Twin Cities. I remember, I was a KQ listener back
then. Rather than bore us to death with the same stagnant crap you keep in regular
rotation, we'd like something new in the mix.
93-X has been my tuner's last line of defense. With no apparent support of the
Progressive - Prog/Metal genre in your programming future, my tuner may never grace the
signal path of my audio gear again... Home or car.
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:57:57 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:Crocodiles All of Them!
Message-ID: <38083005.D347EE8E@isd.net>
DTGirl2612 wrote:
>Ain't never gonna happen - I thought you said you are married, Hmmmm .....??
Just because I'm on a diet don't mean I can't look at the menu..
I'm still a little torn on the morals of free samples. :)
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:37:00 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The Twin Cities needs a douche
Message-ID: <3808392C.F5A1FA7D@isd.net>
I'm curious... I'd like to hear from anyone that has mailed that radio station.
They claim I am the only one requesting the stuff. HOW THE FUCK WOULD
ANYONE ELSE EVEN KNOW IF THEY DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S EXISTANCE?
For those of you that wish to jump on the bandwagon: mailto:mail@93x.com
PLEASE mail these assholes! Keep the requests intelligent and informative.
And keep me posted!
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:39:05 JST
From: "Mark Lent" <lent_mark@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Vanden Plas new album
Message-ID: <19991016093906.94612.qmail@hotmail.com>
For those of you who are so anxious waiting for the new DT, you should spend
your time listening to the new Vanden Plas album Far Off Grace. It is
excellent, much like their past releases. And, IMHO, better than Fates
Warning in many respects. (Does everyone agree that No Exit is much better
than Parallels?)
Mark Lent
P.S. It looks like the release date for the new DT in Japan is Oct. 27th.
But, they often sell new albums as soon as they get them, a day or two in
advance of the official release date.
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:10:06 +0200
From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: I don't have a f*?#ing car!!!
Message-ID: <m11cTb4-0002dGC@fwd07.btx.dtag.de>
Hey y'all!
Is there anyone from the Rhein-Main Area in Germany going to the DT Concert in
Cologne? I'm desperately seeking someone who could give me a ride there. PLEASE!
Alex
BTW: Does anyone know if Blind Guardian has been up to something lately?
--
Alex Gajic [mams.gajic@t-online.de]
* Every breath takes me one less to my last * PULL ME UNDER (Dream Theater)
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:18:47 -0300
From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Veil Of Secrecy/CDNOW
Message-ID: <3808C187.1F58AAF8@conex.com.br>
What hapenned with the artwork of the new DT album on CDNOW?
I went there five hours ago and there it was. The FULL album cover, and
the tracklist. Now, there's just the tracklist. That remembered what the
official
elektra DT site (www.onceinalivetime.com) did with the tracklist.
Also, last time I checked, SFaM was #33 on the best-sellers of the
rock
category... That rules. This show how die-hard are the DT fans, to buy a
album without even knowing the tracklist. It could be a Backstreet boys
cover album and we would still buy it :).
[]s Fernando Rauber
ICQ: 2281311
http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:11:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Veil Of Secrecy/CDNOW
Message-ID: <19991016181141.27977.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com>
--- Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> wrote:
> This show how die-hard are
> the DT fans, to buy a album without even knowing the
> tracklist. It could be a Backstreet boys cover album
> and we would still buy it :).
Why is that a good thing? I'd like to think of DT
fans as being free thinkers. Buying a DT album full
of BSB cover songs w/o seeing a tracklist or album
cover wouldn't do much for my high opinion of them.
But that's just me.
=====
*Trent
"Life is like a nacho; you can put anything you want on it, but if it gets too cheesy, it's your fault."
Me
:: listen to music ::
Metropolis-- http://members.xoom.com/metrotrent
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:15:32 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: a point of view
Message-ID: <38093F54.4E12@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi everyone,
after 2 years of constant listening I'll try to analyse why most of the Prog
fans didn't like Falling Into Infinity that much.
You should know that I love FII. It's different and you can't compare it to I&W
or Awake which are from another demension.
Knowing that DT where under presure from Elektra (maiking hit single like PMU),
I think the main problem with FII is that some of the songs are not Spectacular
at least not for DT's standart. They are to ordinary
With every album (from WDADU to FII), DT have tried to make something new and different.
And in every album you can hear influences from Band's which have influenced
Dream Theater which isn't a bad thing.
But in FII, those influences are all over the place. I don't thing its a progression
if you compose songs like "Anna Lee" or "You Not Me".
DT are pupular for making the best music on earth. Great complex songs with
great vocal harmonies and awesome lyrics.
There are alot of other Artists who can compose or peforme "Anna Lee" at least as good as DT.
It's not a DT song it's like a duet by Queen & Elton John. Nothing new.
Sting could be the composer for "Hollow Years".
U2 the composer for "Speak To Me" (non album track)
Extreme the composer for "Cover My Eyes-electric version" (another non album track).
And Desmond Child has rouined "You Not Me" which sould be on Bon Jovi's up coming album.
Can you call these songs a progression to Awake ? Sorry, but I can't.
Anyway on FII there are some real great stuff like:
"New Millennium" (even when the chours are a rip off by U2's "Even Better Than the Real Thing")
"Peruvian Skies" (A bit Metallica, a bit Pink Floyd - A great song)
"Burning My Soul" (should have been the single hit for Elektra)
"Hell's Kitchen" (fantastic)
"Lines In The Sand" (A prog classic)
"Take Away My Pain" (I love it)
"Just Let Me Breathe" (killer groove)
"Trial Of Tears" (Great, Great, Great)
I think DT should have taken "You Not Me" & "Anna Lee" out of the album and put
"Where Are You Now" or a shorter version of "Rise The Knife" on FII.
Some people hate the production. I like it but the guitars sounding a bit too 90's.
With FII, Dream Theater have reached alot of new potential CD buyers ("fans"?!?!)
but they've also lost alot of CD buyers (especialy metal fans).
Finally, I think that it's just a piont of view if you like FII or not.
Excuse me for my poor english.
Only 1 week until I can hear the best album even made :-)
NP : (Marillion - Brave)
Arash
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:56:57 -0400
From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: No DTC, Boss Me 30, Doors
Message-ID: <007f01bf183a$839038a0$d2c21c18@kez.mgfairfax.rr.com>
>Then, sadly, some people wrote this crap about the Doors being untalented
>and stuff- I always feel sorry for people who think they are above this type
of
>music.
If you're referring to my post about the Doors, I never made any such comment.
For those that don't read too clearly, my post was basically that I didn't
agree with Al about them being 'the shit'. That is all. It was all in my
humble opinion.
Please don't feel sorry for me. But the fact is, I am WAY above this type of
music. :)
That was sarcasm, by the way, in case you didn't catch it.
Get over yourself, please.
Rock away,
Kez
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:47:03 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: I don't have a f*?#ing car!!!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991017014703.0157ba0c@pi-r-squared.com>
At 06:31 AM 10/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hey y'all!
>
>Is there anyone from the Rhein-Main Area in Germany going to the DT Concert in
>Cologne? I'm desperately seeking someone who could give me a ride there.
PLEASE!
>
>Alex
>
>BTW: Does anyone know if Blind Guardian has been up to something lately?
>
They were gonna do an EP followup to Nightfall continuing the story, but
Hansi had hearing problems (which according to his doctors could have
jeapordized the future of the band) and they cancelled the ep and all their
shows. THey are, at the moment in the studio, last I heard, recording a
whole new album. Also Hansi is doing a side project with Jon Schaffer (ICed
Earth, but you should know that ;) )
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his
house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski
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