YTSEJAM digest 5112

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Oct 15 1999 - 21:51:29 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5112

    Today's Topics:

      1) Falling - Back up again!
     by Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk>
      2) New DT -SPOILER!-
     by "Oliver P." <Oliver.Ploier@stud.uni-hannover.de>
      3) Tom Morello
     by Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5111
     by "Guido Mercati" <mercatig@iol.it>
      5) Re: Tom Morello
     by MTeiper@aol.com
      6) Hitler radio
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      7) subconscious JM
     by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
      8) Help me out here
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      9) CDNow *SPOILERS*
     by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
     10) Re: CDNow coupons...
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
     11) Is it possible?
     by "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5111
     by "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@iserve.net>
     13) DT on CDNow
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     14) Re: Tom Morello
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     15) Supporting a band
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
     16) Ethics
     by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
     17) Tom Morello
     by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
     18) take away my ignorance
     by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
     19) ** reliopS reliopS reliopS ***
     by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
     20) Vodka + Absinthe - Light Fuse and Run Away .........
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     21) Re: no stairway--denied!
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     22) Platypus II
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     23) Planet Pluto?
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     24) Tea Party
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     25) Crocodiles All of Them!
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     26) DT in Hamburg und Hannover;Mike, you still want banners for the basement?
     by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
     27) Queensryche
     by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
     28) Re: Vodka + Absinthe - Light Fuse and Run Away .........
     by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
     29) Achievement!
     by mary166@yupimail.com
     30) Derek's departure and SFaM's tracklisting
     by "Randy Rhoads" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     31) Tom Morello, the doors
     by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:51:28 +0100
    From: Dave Perkins <dmp1mpo@bolton.ac.uk>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Falling - Back up again!
    Message-ID: <38070730.585C7D1@bolton.ac.uk>

    HI: List

    As a relatively new member of this list I am quite surprised to read
    that the general feeling regarding FII is that it was a poor DT album.
    I'm sorry but that's absolute bollocks. FII is an absolutely amazing
    album, far better than Awake (IMHO). I love every single album, and I
    think FII is the best. Although its true to say that there isn't a
    Metropolis pt1 on there, every song on the album stands up well, without
    having to rely on one single track to take all the attention.
    I completely fail to see this, "its to commercial" tag people keep on
    pinning to it. Its certainly no more a commercial record than any other
    Dream Theater album.
    Songs such as New Millennium, Peruvian Skies and Trial of Tears are
    awesome and Scenes From A Memory had better be as good as everyone says
    it is to compete with FII as a worthy follow up (although I have no
    doubt it will be).

    Anyway that's just my take on things and before anyone says that I must
    be a bigger fan of Dream Theaters more commercial side - my favorite DT
    song is A Change Of Seasons!

    All The Best: Dave "Who put that there" Perkins

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:15:24 +0200
    From: "Oliver P." <Oliver.Ploier@stud.uni-hannover.de>
    To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: New DT -SPOILER!-
    Message-ID: <000701bf16fe$9ae4bf90$3ae84b82@GRANATEP>

    Hi there!
    I know that I'm not supposed to tell anything concerning the new DT.
    Well at least until it's official...
    In the latest german Metal-Hammer Magazin there's a big interview with
    Portnoy and Petrucci about the new DT and the lyrical background. You'll be
    pleased with what you'll hear! Believe me...
    One other thing is that there's a big promo advertisement for the new DT. So
    that's offcial, too. First of all, you'll get wet eyes when you read the
    (full) title of the new album AND, at least to this ad, well let's put it
    that way: If you didn't like the FII DT font... you'll be happy again!
    So long!
    Release date Germany: According to record label ad in Metal Hammer: Oct.
    25th...
    Yeeehaaa!
    Carpe Diem

    Olli aka granatep
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    Leben ist wie Zeichnen ohne Radiergummi

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:56:49 +0100
    From: Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Tom Morello
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991015145649.007009c4@online.no>

    >> Sure am! Tom Morello and James Hetfield play some on it:)

    >That name sounds really familiar.....who *is* Tom Morello?

    He is Rage Against The Machine's killer guitarist!:)

    RATM is btw working on a new album...

    < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://home.sol.no/~flail - ICQ: 3253879 >

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:22:35 +0100
    From: "Guido Mercati" <mercatig@iol.it>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5111
    Message-ID: <199910151422350740.000EC5B5@mail.iol.it>

    I like to know is there will be finally out the third Liquid Tension CD=
     that Mike Varney didn't want to include with the 2nd one. Maybe the Xmas=
     CD for this year? Thanx to all and keep on shreddin'!!!!!!

    "..." James LaBrie -Erotomania

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:05:50 EDT
    From: MTeiper@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Tom Morello
    Message-ID: <0.c8ca068f.253880ae@aol.com>

    This is just off the top of my head here, but I'm pretty sure that Tom
    Morello is the Rage Against the Machine guitarist. I'm not 100% sure,
    though. One of these days I gotta get off my ass and pick up some RATM
    CD's...

    Later... Matt T.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:10:15 -0500
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: mail@93x.com
    Subject: Hitler radio
    Message-ID: <380735C7.A63C4289@isd.net>

    ** Please forward this to the station program director **

    To whom it may concern:

       A friend informed me of your stations "we play what WE think is good" programming
    policy. I assumed this station played ALL new material within the stations format and
    let the listening public decide what THEY wanted to hear. Request information was
    compiled to aid in developing a play list for regular rotation.

       It's been brought to my attention that your music director has single-handedly keep
    the soon to be released (available in promo) Dream Theater CD from seeing the light of
    day. Have you been to CD now and seen their top 100 sales list? Last I looked the DT
    album was in the 30s. Yet YOU have decided that WE would not be interested in hearing
    this new material.

       The twin Cities music scene is tainted enough without the added censorship on your
    part. If KQRS had this same attitude in the late 60s and early 70s, bands like YES,
    Jethro Tull, Rush, Deep purple, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep, and Emerson Lake & Palmer
    would have never been supported in the Twin Cities. I remember, I was a KQ listener back
    then. Rather than bore us to death with the same stagnant crap you keep in regular
    rotation, we'd like something new in the mix.

       93-X has been my tuner's last line of defense. With no apparent support of the
    Progressive - Prog/Metal genre in your programming future, my tuner may never grace the
    signal path of my audio gear again... Home or car.

    Well... There's always talk radio.

    PS: please note the CC section of the e-mail header. I've carbon copied this
    mailing to a national music related news group, and several customers of ISD.
    (Innovative Software Designs) ISD is one of your web page advertisers.

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
    it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    

    If anyone from the mailing list would like to send comments to 93-X (Kxxr) mailto:mail@93x.com

    Be adult please..

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:13:43 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: subconscious JM Message-ID: <v04210105b42ce6c3d013@[192.168.1.1]>

    >Myung did the small sparse guitar parts there are on the cd, they sound a >little like his track on subconcious...

    Now that was funny. Maybe you don't realize HOW funny as long as you don't know who really played this track...

    Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:21:25 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Help me out here Message-ID: <38073864.CF360030@isd.net>

    As I'm sure you've noticed, I'm PISSED! My local radio station won't play "Home" because one individual (The music director) thinks the song sucks. Seriously kids.. E-mail these fuckers and complain.

    Pssst... Don't let on you're not from Minnesota.. They're too stupid to look at the headers and see if your from another country or state.

    mailto:mail@93x.com Please be adult about this.

    Don't be a dick... PLEASE mail these assholes and request DREAM THEATER!!!

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:14:45 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: CDNow *SPOILERS* Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AEAE3@messaging>

    Alrighty then - CDNow has failed us, too! FYI: don't go to CDNow if you don't want to see the tracklisting or the ARTWORK... :)

    * or *

    DO go there if you want to see the tracklisting or the ARTWORK... :)

    It's all damn cool - but YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED...

    David

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:39:40 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: CDNow coupons... Message-ID: <38073CAC.C8C49B8C@ivorygate.com>

    William Cary Hall wrote: > > Anybody got some CDnow coupons ( or know where to find some) that are not > expired? Everywhere I go I find coupons that have expired. Check in the On-line coupons forum at http://www.ivorygate.com there are some links to CDNOW coupons, and some links to some web pages that track the coupons pretty well...

    -- ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:48:31 +0200 From: "Davide" <dada@iname.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Is it possible? Message-ID: <LPBBJIFMJJKJGMLICMIBAEBJCAAA.dada@iname.com>

    The whole album is Metropolis II.... Scenes from a memory is only the subtitle like "the miracle and the sleeper"...

    IMHO....

    Davide

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:03:55 -0500 From: "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@iserve.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5111 Message-ID: <38075E7B.7ED286BA@iserve.net>

    Derek guessed to why he may have been let go was he was single and everybody else was married with families. Well, at least that's what he said.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT on CDNow Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910151310280.1060-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>

    Just so you know, DT is currently #38 on the CDNow top 100....... right behind SmashMouth, Brian McKnight, Bush, and 311.....are you serious?!?!?!?! peoples got PROBLEMS....

    -Al

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:12:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Tom Morello Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910151311440.1060-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>

    On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Oddvar Lovaas wrote:

    > RATM is btw working on a new album... >

    New Rage, called "Battle of Los Angeles" is coming out on November 2nd...

    -Al

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:26:18 -0500 From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Supporting a band Message-ID: <19991015122618.A26031@enteract.com>

    Cyberduke, et al:

    I am certain that one of my main intentions in buying an album is to support a band. For that reason, I won't buy a DT album used, and I won't get a promo and not buy the album. I won't burn copies for my friends, or accept a burn from someone else (except pre-release, of course. :) I definitely think that's a fair statement.

    There are cases in which I don't really care... some ambient music that I don't listen to that much, I'm just as happy to get an MP3 or a burn of an album.... but if it's anything I listen to a lot, I buy it. What's wrong with that? How can you pretend to know my motivation? And how could you/why would you knock that intention? If you were a programmer, working on a new piece of multitrack recording software, you'd be pissed if people stole your code, or warez'd your app and you didn't get paid for your work. As a musician, it's the same damn thing. I think it's narcissistic to pretend that "it's cool if I just burn my buddy's cd collection and save all that money. It doesn't hurt the band, cuz I can't afford his whole collection, so the band would never get that money anyways." Someone has to buy the stuff, somewhere down the chain. Why should they buy it and you get it for free? Don't answer that. You know we'll have a flame war if you do.

    I'll buy a new album from an artist, rather than get MP3s from him/her and decide if I like it through that alone. I'm not necessarily buying the music because I know I like it. When I was younger, I bought every guitar related album I could find... as a result I have a shred archive with a lot of great and a lot of terrible players. But the method for finding out whether I liked them or not was always to buy the album, whether I'd heard of the dude or not.

    --

    Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:56:19 -0600 (MDT) From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Ethics Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991015113946.14057C-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu>

    ]From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> > > Legal rights, bla, bla ... last time I checked laws were not perfect. > Seen from different perspective it's stupid to prove somebody's wrong > just by the fact that this-and-this law says it is ILLEGAL to do this. > Everybody knows those record companies are greedy, but right now the > goverment support them with the laws existing. But I'm sure things will > change in future. > > About the immoral/illegal debate, I think the "immoral" wins. > Ethics and morals are more absolute standard than present existing laws. >

    About certain things, yes. A lot of us will probably say that, regardless of whether of not slavery it *legal* at a certain point in time, for example, it nonetheless is in and of itself immoral. Ditto for certain other concrete things, like the murder of innocents, things like that. So, for settled issues where there's widespread agreement, I can see the appeal in saying that ethics and morals have a more universal quality to them than does legality.

    HOWEVER... don't forget that there's *lots* of things that AREN'T settled in this way, ethically speaking. So, for example, you might be tempted to say, "Sure abortion is legal, but legality isn't nearly as absolute as ethics, and abortion is morally wrong." Obviously, the problem with that sort of appeal is that there is widespread disagreement over the fact of the matter of morality with regard to abortion, so an appeal to ethics here might not get you very far.

    So, what am I saying... well, just that it's fair to want to make a moral appeal on an issue as opposed to a legal appeal, but with a lot of things, that's REALLY tricky ground to establish.

    --mt

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:05:14 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Tom Morello Message-ID: <38076CD9.B4C7A41B@ucla.edu>

    Tom Morello is the guitarist for Rage Against the Machine, or one of the guitarists, as I'm not familiar with their current lineup. Man, does the idea of him and James Hetfield appearing on a Primus album just make anyone else want to cover their ears, as if you were being bombarded with the cries of mating cats? Primus meets RATM meets Metallica.. the worlds sickest supergroup, outside the realm of r&b.

    -- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:40:44 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: take away my ignorance Message-ID: <19991015184045.72632.qmail@hotmail.com>

    does anyone know if Jay Beckenstein has played with DT other than what's heard on I&W and OIAL, and if so, are there any bootlegs or MP3's with him? His sax really compliments DT's ballads, but I can't take Spyro Gyra's "happy jazz". also, does anyone know where I can find an MP3 of "Eve"? and one more thing: on the "Live in Japan" video, they do a funky little jam after LSOAD. What's that called? it's really cool!

    -Banjoman NP: Platypus: "Platt Opus" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It concerns me that I spend money on heavy-duty cleaning products that are designed to remove the residual "scum" left on my tub from a substance I rely on every day to cleanse and sanitize my own body. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:59:45 -0300 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ** reliopS reliopS reliopS *** Message-ID: <38075D80.15CC38D2@conex.com.br>

    > >Yeah they will be performing the whole new album, and I will be filling in > >for JP that night.... =) > > That's not difficult, actually, since there's no guitar on the whole album! > > Whoops, I just spoiled the surprise. Damn. Mike will kill me!

    Actually, if you put the volume REALLY LOUD on track #32, there is a little guitar part on 12:34-12:37. Ops, that is a spoiler! Gotta change the subject :)..

    []s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:18 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Vodka + Absinthe - Light Fuse and Run Away ......... Message-ID: <0.61971691.2538f762@aol.com>

    <From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> Absolut is nasty...go with the real stuff. Russian. Stolichnaya is a decent inexpensive place to start.>

    Actually I quite like Smirnoff - especially good to dissolve Cadbury's drinking choccy before filling the cup with milk and shoving it in the microwave - when you come in from a gig on a cold night!!! Great night cap .....sweet dreams y'all!

    <Absinthe is a green-hued cordial, flavored with aniseed (licorice). A respectable, available, legal and NON-LETHAL substitute is Pernod. Regards, Josh Calkin>

    Yuck!!! Pernod is disgusting - that's why I want to try the original ..... Isn't absinthe supposed to be mildly hallucinogenic?

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:25 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: no stairway--denied! Message-ID: <0.322c2300.2538f769@aol.com>

    <<Yeah they will be performing the whole new album, and I will be filling in for JP that night.... =)>>

    <That's not difficult, actually, since there's no guitar on the whole album! Whoops, I just spoiled the surprise. Damn. Mike will kill me! Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@westend.com)>

    Actually John Petrucci told me when I last interviewed him that he has given up guitar completely and is now playing the piano accordion and harmonica with a bass drum attached to his back and cymbals between his legs .......

    NP = The Doors - Riders On The Storm

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:21 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Platypus II Message-ID: <0.efe48d93.2538f765@aol.com>

    <Does anyone know anything about the 2nd Platypus album? All I've heard is that they were going to record it, and haven't heard anything since. Was it made, and if so, when is it coming out? If not, what the hell happened? Preston>

    According to John Myung it has been recorded, was being mixed by Ty Tabor in September and is due out sometime early in Y2K .....

    You could also try e-mailing Insideout in Germany on info@insideout.de or visit the website www.insideout.de

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:23 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Planet Pluto? Message-ID: <0.166f2612.2538f767@aol.com>

    So what do they call Uranus?

    >Since we are discussing the "theories" behind the name Planet X, I'd like to mention that the planet Pluto is often referred to as Planet X. Just a little UFI (useless f@#kin' information) for you all. Babs>

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:24 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tea Party Message-ID: <0.5316c7dc.2538f768@aol.com>

    >If you really want to hear a singer sound like jim, check out the tea party. Not only does he sound a lot like Morrison, he even looks a lot like him, too. pretty cool. Jim Shields>

    Hell yep - great Canadian band - soon to be touring Europe as special guests for a headlining band the name of which I cannot quite remember, but I'm sure someone on here will know?

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:22 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Crocodiles All of Them! Message-ID: <0.3a91f1cd.2538f766@aol.com>

    >>And the crocodile swam off down the canal in Venice singing: "Drained wops keep falling on my head I eaten dinner now it's time to find a bed Sucking's not for me BUT I'm never gonna stop the vampires from dining I get their leavings for free Nothing's worrying me.">>

    HEY you frogs chuck me in a few cases of Bud will ya? Say oops lala .... Frogs sell beer Louie - whoever heard of the Budweiser Lizards?

    <<BITE girls don't suck!!! >>

    <LOL. You can plunge on my face anytime, baby! This is assuming you're not really hideous. :) If your teeth look like Corn Nuts, stay the fuck away from me PLEASE. If you're a babe, I'd like to dance with you as close as I can get without getting wet. And even that is negotiable. Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist>

    Ain't never gonna happen - I thought you said you are married, Hmmmm .....?? !!!!!!!!

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    Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:32:31 CEST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT in Hamburg und Hannover;Mike, you still want banners for the basement? Message-ID: <19991015223232.47953.qmail@hotmail.com>

    hi all, wer ist denn auch in Hamburg und Hannover? Ich kann's kaum noch erwarten, vielleicht koennen wir uns treffen?

    Mike(MP), on the last tour you requested banners for your basement. Is that request still valid or would an original Converse Chuck Taylor right shoe that has been two 6 or 7 shows(DT+LTE; Germany+NJ) do? See you in less than a month, sebastian

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    Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:37:14 CEST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Queensryche Message-ID: <19991015223714.47026.qmail@hotmail.com>

    hi, QR is going to be in Hamburg, Germany on January 16th. (ithinkitdefinitelywasinjanuary), sebastian

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:12:39 -0400 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vodka + Absinthe - Light Fuse and Run Away ......... Message-ID: <004901bf1762$c7209b60$47ab889e@plymouth.edu>

    > > Yuck!!! Pernod is disgusting - that's why I want to try the original .... > Isn't absinthe supposed to be mildly hallucinogenic?

    I think that the reason pernod is used as a sub. for absinthe is b/c they taste very similar. My guess is, if you hate Pernod, then absinthe would rub you the wrong way, too...

    It's true that absinthe is a hallucinogen. It contains a small amount of wormwood, which is what causes the hallucinations. The only problem is, absinthe was mostly homemade, and often times the wormwood content was too great (either accidentally or purposely ;) ), and this is VERY dangerous.

    Incidentally, absinthe was a fav or Ernest Hemingway.

    If mild hallucinogens are your thing, then you ought to check out Mezcal (so titled b/c it is distilled from the same plant from which mescalin (sp?) is extracted). It is a liquor produced in Mexico, reminiscent of Tequila. It comes complete with the famous worm sitting in the bottom of the bottle... The label reads "Mexican warriors used to drink this liquor before battle because it heightened their senses by allowing them to SEE SOUNDS and HEAR COLORS." I thought that this was a type-o at first but...

    If the thought of eating a worm doesn't sit right with you, then put it on a sandwich. Worked for my roomate...

    Luck, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua IRC: Mortua

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    Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:56:13 -0300 From: "Randy Rhoads" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Derek's departure and SFaM's tracklisting Message-ID: <199910151751595@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Trent asked: >I remember about a month after >the press release, Mike (I think) actually pointedly >discussed why Derek was kicked out. I think the word >"gay" was used, but I don't want to dig up that >business again or worse yet take the quote out of >context with how it was used. Anyone have that >particular quote in it's entirety?

    To be more accurate, it was Korg (u folks remember him?) who posted a fake quote, supposedly by MP, saying that Derek had been booted for being gay and sampling his live stuff... And I'll be damned, but I just deleted that post a few days ago... And now that the track listing has been revealed, anyone also noticed a certain "Yngwie-ism" in some of the titles?

    Later, Adriano

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    Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:36:12 +1000 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tom Morello, the doors Message-ID: <3807D68C.9936D2C8@alphalink.com.au>

    Scott wrote...

    > That name sounds really familiar.....who *is* Tom Morello? > (Yes, I do know who James Hetfield is - I'm not that dumb!!)

    He's the guitarist for Rage Against the Machine. A while back Guitar World hailed him as the new Jimmy Page/Van Halen. I guess he fits the Jimmy Page bit because what he lacks in technical ability he makes up with some damn cool riffs. You don't see RAtM mentioned much here, but they're definately a band worth checking out.

    Jim Shields wrote...

    > If you really want to hear a singer sound like jim, check out the tea > party. Not only does he sound a lot like Morrison, he even looks a lot > like him, too. pretty cool.

    yeah. and Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam as well. When the Doors were inducted into the hall of fame they even got Eddie to sing for them which must have been an honor. Dave said some stuff about the movie...

    > I can remember reading an interview with John Densmoore and he said > that he didn't like the movie because it was Oliver Stones fantasy of

    wasn't the movie based on the book "No one gets out of here alive" which was written by like a fourteen year old boy who used to hang around with the Doors. I've heard a lot of people say that the movie wasn't very accurate. But its still a lot of fun. On the drugs topic, I don't think I needed drugs to enjoy the Doors at first but I sure felt like taking them afterwards. No wonder I'm doing so badly at school now- if anyone tells you that rock and roll is bad for the brain, they're right.

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