YTSEJAM Digest 5105
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Patients!
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
2) Re: Why I downloaded the new album...
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
3) RE: Could someone reccommend a good effects pedal?
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
4) Ones Who Help Set the Sun
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
5) Stopping ads on the Jam?
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
6) Re: Bootleg vs Pirating
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
7) Re: Patients!
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
8) Do you want info on the new album?
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
9) Info on these DT songs
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
10) NEW DEBUT
by Dark Tower <voice@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
11) Japanese FII for auction !!
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
12) Re: Could someone reccommend a good effects pedal?
by The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
13) RE: John P's equipment
by "Brandon Murdock" <gilgamesh777@hotmail.com>
14) Release Parties
by Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
15) Matt Groening
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
16) New DT!!! (No spoilers)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
17) EQ stuff
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
18) NDTC: Vai and Jam Spam
by "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
19) No new DT in Minneapolis/Saint Paul
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
20) No new DT in Minneapolis/Saint Paul
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
21) "Home" - request info
by Riffinator@aol.com
22) Boots and Pirates arrrr ye scurvy dog!
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
23) After you get the new DT on Oct. 26
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
24) Improve Your Sex Life -New Book Tells How -htfkuafv
by jusdhgiweruighed@oqaeuecpbvb.twigger.co.uk
25) Musical Evolution
by Anil Sahal <9148621s@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
26) The Greatest Musical Rip Off of All!
by Anil Sahal <9148621s@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:06:23 -0400
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Patients!
Message-ID: <000701bf143d$3e661020$2921f7a5@com>
At 07:59 AM 10/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Whatever happened to good old patients? Half the funn is in the waiting
>for the release!
<hmmm... patients? Well I guess the ytsejam could be considered an
<alleviation for your daily flame&idiocy addiction, or prog news or
whatever.
<In that way we're all still patients. Now pacience... that's a different
<matter entirely. ;)
You were close! It's patience! . . . I had to!
~~Art
Webmaster
http://www.joestump.com
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign
then it's only a matter of time"
-Kevin Moore, Dream Theater 1989
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Why I downloaded the new album...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9910111908330.24123-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> secrecy. I can understand it if the band wants everyone to hear it as an
> album so they can experience it the way it's meant to be heard, as one whole.
> They don't want people downloading MP3s or reading the lyrics, cuz if you
> hear one song, you're not getting the entire picture. But if that theory were
> true, DT wouldn't push the single until after the album came out. I don't
ah, but the radio edit of Home that they released to radio has cut out all
the parts that would spoil the surprise. i'm pretty sure the surprise
factor is the reason they dont want anyone getting mp3s or anything. it is
meant to be listened to as a whole.
> to SFAM. Everyone heard clips of FII before it came out, and they're
> judgement was aletered. A lot of people didn't like it and sales went down.
> That's bullshit. People didn't like it cuz it was not up to Dream Theater
> standards. I don't care when, where, or how you hear an album...if it's good,
> you'll like it. If it's bad, you won't. Say no one in the world heard
> anything from FII until the day it was released; the majority still won't
> like it. On the other hand, everyone in the world could hear SFAM months
yeah, but they wouldnt know it till after they bought it :) if DT were
thinking commercially, and i'm sure they dont have a materialistic
mindset, then that argument would still hold. but i am willing to bet it
wasnt really an issue. moo.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:21:27 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Could someone reccommend a good effects pedal?
Message-ID: <19991011.184515.14478.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Thanks for all hte input, I think after all of this I might check out the
Korg AX1G. It seems to be the most versital without costing too much
(around $130)
Kurt
NP-Economics for test tomorrow
"and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on
going"-Doubledrive
New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out Oct 26th
"I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to past 40"-Paul Blocker
Who Has Won Who Has Died (Insert Precko here) Beneath the Remains
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:45:11 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ones Who Help Set the Sun
Message-ID: <19991011.184515.14478.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
I saw someone mention this song on the last jam, its about time
one of my all time favs gets some respect. The album version is cool,
but the live version with James! I have it on the bootleg "When Dream
and James Unite" and on a video from the Pittsburgh Awake tour. Why did
they stop playing it halfway into the tour? I thought it fit really well
into the set. The old stuff is the shit, especially the Killing Hand.
Mike, if yall did up one of the dinosaurs, make it one of these two.
I thoughht of a cool way to pull one over on Wherhouse music
stores. Those who have them in your area know about the 5 used for 1 new
on Tuesdays. here's what I did last week, went and bought 5 used 2
dollar CD from a used CD store, took their stickers off, took them right
over to Wherehouse, got the 1st Machine Head CD regularly 17.99 for my
cost of 8.72. Not a bad lil deal.
Kurt
NP-DT-Only a matter of time (with James of course)
"and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on
going"-Doubledrive
New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out Oct 26th
"I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to past 40"-Paul Blocker
Who Has Won Who Has Died (Insert Precko here) Beneath the Remains
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:55:28 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Stopping ads on the Jam?
Message-ID: <380278F0.4873ECF9@ucla.edu>
Why don't we just do what every other mailing list does, and not allow
in messages from unregistered email addresses? I highly doubt any
company is going to bother subbing, sending a message, and immediately
unsubbing, or sitting through YtseGarbage, to sell us their herbal
ecstasy.
-- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:15:23 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bootleg vs Pirating Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991011200745.00a40300@pop.mindspring.com>
At 03:40 PM 10/11/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Pirating - Making illegal copies of official releases >and selling them. Very bad. > >Bootlegging - Making illegal(?) copies of unofficial >music (such as demos and live recordings) and selling >them. Not as bad.
I'd agree with you here except that I'd add people that sell ANY recording of the band as a pirater.
>Funny thing is, some bootleggers accuse other >bootleggers of pirating their bootlegs...
Yeah, I always got a kick out of it when Mike Bahr said that it's "professional courtesy" for one bootscalper not to sell another bootscalper's wares. Let's take a look at this: They're only professional in the way a full time thief is a professional, so you can't really accept that part. And this fact kind of takes away from the "courtesy" end of that statement leaving you with "serious bullshit" as the revised (though synonymous) phrase.
So the moral is (and you knew it was coming) not to sell bootlegs and, if you're on the receiving end of this, don't buy bootlegs. It's as simple as that.
*burp*
Adam
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:24:33 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Patients! Message-ID: <0.7cbd2568.2533d9c1@aol.com>
<From: Anil Sahal <9148621s@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Whatever happened to good old patients? Perhaps it's a sign of our "MTV" culture and its need for instant gratification! Then again it could be a sign that I'm a sad old git! Anil>
Well the good ones go to the local old folks' home with a free choice on what music they take with them and the bad ones end up in geriatric wards where they are force fed all the crappiest MTV videos ........
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:40:13 -0300 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Do you want info on the new album? Message-ID: <3802674C.1028EA18@conex.com.br>
> If it is, does anyone know (or want to let us know:)) the tracklist and > when it's coming?
The tracklist is avaiable on Amazon.com . It will be released on Oct. 26th, last time I checked. Also, if you want know a bit more, go to www.hardradio.com and listen to the 30-second sample from "Home".
[]s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:11:49 -0300 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Info on these DT songs Message-ID: <3801FE34.394E0608@conex.com.br>
Hello 'jammers!
Could someone give some info about these DT songs:
- A Crack In The Mirror (Antiquities) - Original ACOS Studio Version (Antiquities) - Don't Look Past Me (Antiquities) - Long Island Expressway - Freeport Jam - Solar Groove - Where are you now? - Portnoy's Complaint - Gemini (John Petrucci)
[]s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:25:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dark Tower <voice@gonzo.wolfenet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NEW DEBUT Message-ID: <199910120125.SAA22916@wolfenet.com>
Greetings,
Just wanted to mention a great new debut. INNER RESONANCE @ WWW.IRESONANCE.COM!
These guys are great. Vocalist trained by the guy who trained Geoff Tate. Check
them out. I just got my copy of the CD. I'm very impressed!
Cheers, Duncan
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:44:07 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: bostonjam@dreamt.org, "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Japanese FII for auction !! Message-ID: <C75EB672C5CCD211A88300104B6A9EF0CC9FA7@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Whilst visiting Tokyo, tucked back in a pile of "old" CDs, I found an unopened copy of the Japanese FII (complete with that nice mini disk with Speak to Me and the TAMP demo). I hadn't seen one of these for over 1.5 years as they are supposedly long gone. The yen is strong now so it cost me $24.
What I would like to do is the following. There is a food bank in my town called "People Helping People". Please bid for the CD indicating a separate donation for the food bank. The winner will send me two checks. One addressed to me for $24, the other addressed to the food bank. I will forward the check to them giving credit to you. You will receive acknowledgement from them directly. Their check is tax deductable.
I will probably not have access to e-mail for about a week starting now so dont expect any responses too quickly. Minimum bid for the foodbank is $10. When you submit your bids, please make it clear if your bid includes my $24 or not.
Cheers, Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:05:30 -0400 From: The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Could someone reccommend a good effects pedal? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991011220530.007bd100@pop.louisville.crosswinds.net >
My guitarist uses a DanElectro Fabtone. I think he sleeps with it too. I've heard Metal Zones are awesome, If you know how, you can get any distortion sound you want. Are you looking for distortion of just effects of many kinds. Please specify Dave
At 01:53 AM 10/11/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> wrote: >> Hey all, I might be getting a guitar for Xmas, could someone reccommend a >> good (and not too pricy) pedal for me? > >Define "not too pricy." > >> I will be learning through >> tabs,(easiest way, I guess), I already can play the beginning of Silent >> Lucidity, and will want to play with a good metal/hard rock sound. >> IE:QR,DT,Metallica, Sava you get the point. > >Well, for a good metal/hard rock sound, I'd say the Boss Metal Zone is one >of the best pedals out there. You'd be hard pressed to get a QR/DT sound >out of just a distortion pedal, though (unless you're looking for the >muddier sound that QR seems to be steering towards lately). Knowing that >you're from the New Orleans area, though, your best bet it to wander on down >to the Musician's Friend store with your guitar and try some stuff out and >pick the one that you like. Hearing it for yourself on the type of >equipment that you'll have is ultimately the ONLY way to really make up YOUR >mind. > >HTH, >Toby >NP: V.A.S.T. > >http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg > >"Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here --here's >American Gladiators. Watch this. Shut up. Here's American Gladiators. >Here's fifty-six channels of it.... Here you go, America: you are free... > >.. to do as we tell you" - Bill Hicks > >
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:41:59 MDT From: "Brandon Murdock" <gilgamesh777@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: John P's equipment Message-ID: <19991012024200.64751.qmail@hotmail.com>
In response to John's string choice and picks:
He does use Dunlop Jazz III's and 009-046 string sizes. I'm not positive of the brand but I do know he uses those size strings and not the 009-042.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:34:39 -0400 From: Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Release Parties Message-ID: <4.1.19991011232905.00ac8740@mail.ee.net>
If anyone here is planning a party or event in honor of the new CD release please send me the details of you wish to have it promoted on MP.com! So far we have a Houston Texas party listed and some folks in Philly considering one...
Thanks, DaveH http://www.mikeportnoy.com
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:13:27 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Matt Groening Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991011231327.00802490@umav04.udem.edu.mx>
I would like to see some artwork for a DT album made by Matt Groening... imagine that...
by the way, I founf a site full of rare mp3s (Extreme demos, Queensryche, Kings X, etc)
at:
check it out
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:35:39 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New DT!!! (No spoilers) Message-ID: <3801853B.FB2420F2@isd.net>
Fasten your seatbelts, my ass! You're going to need airbags for this ride..
The boy's have outdone themselves. :) :) :) :) :) :)
I can't stop grinning....
Well... That could be from something else. <evil grin> -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:05:22 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: EQ stuff Message-ID: <3802C192.6148B6CC@isd.net>
Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: >When I go to set equalization on a graphic EQ, say in Winamp (I know, bad >quality issue, but this isn't about quality), what should the Spectrum >Analyzer look like? <snip>
That depends on the program material. If your listening to a single 1 KHz tone you should only see a spike at 1K. Music posses a multitude of information throughout the audio spectrum. (20 Hz - 20 KHz) To the untrained eye It will look like a mess.
>which he happened to be playing TON (first time I'd heard it - I LOVE >it!). I started messing with the EQ, and got to a point where the >analyzer had all eq levels roughly even (e.g. the bass had the same levels >as the mid, which had the same levels as the highs). Is this what I want >it to look like? <snip>
Not unless your listening to pink noise. (pink noise is a test signal comprised of an equal level of all frequencies in the audio spectrum)
>have the equipment. But if I want my music to be true to the engineer's >design of the music, is that what I want it to do? Or should I just not >use an EQ at all, and THAT'S what the engineer wanted?
I'm like to bite my tongue on this topic... Been there, done that. There are two schools of thought, you need to decide what side of the fence your on before I can be of any help.
*I* don't believe in EQs for a SERIOUS home system. If you need to polish a turd, reach for the EQ.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:20:09 -0700 From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: NDTC: Vai and Jam Spam Message-ID: <005f01bf1471$76f52320$6cccaec7@default>
>From: Chris Ptacek >About: The Ultra Zone
Very well-said. I like the new Vai album but was having trouble putting my finger on exactly why I don't regard it as highly as P&W or my other favorite, Alien Love Secrets. I think the answer is that most of the awesome guitar work comes from the existing "Book of Vai."
Where Vai experiments on this album is compositionally and in arrangement, with the Indian chanting and some of the odd sped-up samples. He is not experimenting with technique. Case in point: Lucky Charms. In this case, I think the addition of the "Leprechaun vocals" detracts from what otherwise would be one of the best tracks on the album. Prog content: odd meter in this tune!
On the other hand, Vai's vocal tracks on the last two albums have been surprisingly good. He has a great, natural sounding voice that emotes beautifully on the ballads. Turn the lights down low and put "I'll Be Around" on repeat a few times to see what I mean.
Finally, about the spam: someone has figured out that the jam is (at least) 90% male. You don't see spam about breast implants on here! This would suggest that it is not entirely random. Just a thought.
-Neil.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:55:51 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: No new DT in Minneapolis/Saint Paul Message-ID: <3802CD67.A9309E04@isd.net>
I'm pissed!
As of now, (October 12th) My local radio station (93x) thinks I'm nuts for continuing to request material from the "phantom Dream Theater album." They have NO knowledge of it's existence whatsoever.
I've heard the new single on HardRadio, so I know it exists. So what's up with the distribution of the promotional copies? This isn't some little hick- town radio station, It's the largest station in Minnesota that supports our favorite format.
Mr. Portnoy, If you're listening, you may want to contact your label and see what's up. This could also be a case of "Lazy Program Director Syndrome" on the part of the radio station.
My local DT goon-squad and I have been pestering the shit out of the DJs. "Home" is now the most requested song to never grace the local transmitter. If they ever DO get it, It already has a healthy request history... Not to mention name recognition amongst the staff. :)
If this doesn't hit the air soon I'm going to break out the Latex glove and show KXXR's program director what a ProGtologist is all about. ^ -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:58:50 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: No new DT in Minneapolis/Saint Paul Message-ID: <3802CDF4.E5D13CE9@isd.net>
I'm pissed!
As of now, (October 12th) My local radio station (93x) thinks I'm nuts for continuing to request material from the "phantom Dream Theater album." They have NO knowledge of it's existence whatsoever.
I've heard the new single on HardRadio, so I know it exists. So what's up with the distribution of the promotional copies? This isn't some little hick- town radio station, It's the largest station in Minnesota that supports our favorite format.
Mr. Portnoy, If you're listening, you may want to contact your label and see what's up. This could also be a case of "Lazy Program Director Syndrome" on the part of the radio station.
My local DT goon-squad and I have been pestering the shit out of the DJs. "Home" is now the most requested song to never grace the local transmitter. If they ever DO get it, It already has a healthy request history... Not to mention name recognition amongst the staff. :)
If this doesn't hit the air soon I'm going to break out the Latex glove and show KXXR's program director what a ProGtologist is all about. ^ -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 02:19:44 EDT From: Riffinator@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: "Home" - request info Message-ID: <0.a527823a.25342d00@aol.com>
Hello, just wondering if anybody has had the privilege of hearing the Home single on the radio? I've called all the local stations where I'm from and noone has received it....big surprise. Not. Anyway, if anyone knows where to find an .mp3 or .RA of just that single....please email me privately, not to the jam. Nothing wrong with having an appetizer before the main course on the 26th, IMO.
Drew
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 01:21:37 -0500 From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Boots and Pirates arrrr ye scurvy dog! Message-ID: <19991012012137.A99469@enteract.com>
]From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
> Pirating - Making illegal copies of official releases > and selling them. Very bad. > Bootlegging - Making illegal(?) copies of unofficial
Contrary to popular belief, I am not anti bootleg. In fact, I agree that most bands should consider it free advertising, since it will cost more and cause more bad blood to stop bootlegs (look at what people think of Robert Fripp, as compared to what they think of Dave Matthews in that respect)... but this bothered me. What you just did is not much different, logically, than saying "Armed Robbery: Taking shit at gunpoint, and not paying for it. Bad. Theft: taking shit and not paying for it. No big deal." You can't support a legal argument for one and ignore the argument for the other. What's that "?" all about? Do you doubt the fact that bootlegging is, in general, illegal? It's still more rare for a band to allow it than not (most likely due to contractual restraints) I think boots can be cool... when there's an anomalous show in which new or weird songs are played, etc. I think that most of the time, it's lame to get a half assed recording of a standard live show, at which you probably did not attend, and pretend it's special. But when it comes down to it, you can't play dumb and pretend that you don't know if it's illegal. Whether or not it's immoral may be easier to debate (I personally think it's only immoral to sell, or support the sale of bootlegs, or to bootleg when you're asked not to by the artist, or band, etc... but that's just my view). Just had to get that off my chest.
Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 03:28:20 -0500 From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: After you get the new DT on Oct. 26 Message-ID: <3802F124.5099@earthlink.net>
Although you will probably get the new DT album on October 26 and totally immerse yourself in it (like I'm going to do), don't forget to turn off your CD player on Wednesday night (the 27th) and watch the new episode of South Park. That's right, the first new episode since "Jewbilee" will be another Halloween special. Should be sweet....
I've played Mullmuzzler straight through fifteen times in the last week or so. Damn, that is one fine album. I got "Manifesto for Futurism" by Dali's Dilemma in the mail last week (my favorite songs on Mullmuzzler were written by Matt Guillory), and it is also quite excellent. If you don't have these already, you really should consider getting at least one of them.
Fourteen more days....
Take care, Mark Peters epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:35:02 +0000 From: Anil Sahal <9148621s@udcf.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Musical Evolution Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991012103502.00817710@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk>
I can see what Chris Ptacek is getting at when he says that the cessation of evolution in a musicians works stifles their creativity. Perhaps Steve Vai can be accused of stagnation but then evolution occurs in very small, incremental steps. Now, I think Steve's music has changed and in this fashion. But it's almost imperceptable and when we hear that Vai is "radical" and "innovative" maybe we expect vast changes in style etc (Vai does a Broadway Musical!).
When we discover a musician that writes music that we have an affinity for, why should we want them to change their formula? There are plenty of new, up and coming bands that will produce music in every genre.
I think that we music fans are a fickle bunch. When a band actually does make a big change in their sound we say they're selling out or are running out of ideas, or are just plain rubbish (Falling into Infinity is a prime example of this).
Anyway, food for thought.
Anil
Anil Sahal Motoneurone Research Group Neuroscience and Biomedical Systems West Medical Building University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ Scotland 0141 339 8855 ext.4552
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:54:40 +0000 From: Anil Sahal <9148621s@udcf.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Greatest Musical Rip Off of All! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991012105440.00818610@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk>
There's a lot of talk of boot-legging and pirating in these digests but perhaps we're forgetting the the fact that we're being hugely ripped off by the musical retailers and companys themselves! =20
Here, in the UK, the average CD costs about =A315 (about $24 US). When this is broken down into its constituent components, it is the retailers that are taking the kings ransom of the price we pay. I would have no objections if it were the artists who got this share of the moneyk, since they are the creative force behind the music. But the thought of some manager sitting on his backside and getting all this money for relatively little work? Agreed, they have overheads and salaries to pay (oh, I'm sure they pay their employees really, really well -highly unlikely), but even when this is taken into account they are still ripping us off.
Here in the UK the Monopoly and Mergers Commission have investigated this twice and both time have felt that that no action need be taken. A back hander from the record companies and retailers? Perhaps.
So, when it costs so much to buy CD's is it any wonder that some folks will try and get it for much less or even for free by illegal means?
We should be attacking this injustice with the same vigour as we attack other corporate crimes.
Anil
Anil Sahal Motoneurone Research Group Neuroscience and Biomedical Systems West Medical Building University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ Scotland 0141 339 8855 ext.4552
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