YTSEJAM Digest 5090
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT's first single
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
2) Only one step left, Mr. Countermarsh....
by "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com>
3) Neil Schon
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
4) Re: Chris and Al's excellent adventure.
by "Jan Melander" <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
5) Various stuff
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
6) Swimming at Odd Times
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
7) What's That Sound?
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
8) Smokin' Notes
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
9) from peru
by ESPINO LAZO <a19962071@palas.pucp.edu.pe>
10) problems with the wire
by Daniel Beziz <danjohn@club-internet.fr>
11) Yahoo Hockey (NDTC)
by "Adam Perkowsky" <perk1994@yahoo.com>
12) Ribbon Controllers
by Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
13) IRC page gone?
by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
14) Saigon Kick
by "Sadbutunforgiven" <m99086a@bellsouth.net>
15) In times like these....
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
16) Re: IRC page gone?
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
17) the veil thingy.....
by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
18) Question for you audiophiles
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
19)
by ytsejam-manager@axnet.net
20) Re:
by "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
21) New Creed
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
22) what happened to the Laser's Edge?
by JamesAhab@aol.com
23) Re: what happened to the Laser's Edge?
by Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldfire@pacbell.net>
24) DT humor.......
by nmgerace@juno.com
25) DS
by MyrBones@aol.com
26) RE: what happened to the Laser's Edge?
by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:49:04 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT's first single
Message-ID: <003501bf0aa2$ebc81000$0100007f@localhost>
Damon Fibraio wrote:
> This is absolutely ridiculous. One guy hears a song, posts
> his excitement, and we freak. Itchy, God bless you, posts
> some info, and it is OK.
I realize now that I should've included *** SPOILER ***
in there somewhere... Sorry, I didn't think...
Mark Bredius
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:56:50 EDT
From: "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Only one step left, Mr. Countermarsh....
Message-ID: <19990929175650.66361.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
>You're right - it was inconsistent of me, and I apologize. I really don't
>know what I was thinking, and I didn't mean to be so harsh in my posts.
>But, in all honesty, I WAS thinking when I posted ("THINK when you
>post!"), and I meant every word. So I'm not going to use that as an
>excuse, and I'm not apologizing for WHAT I said, just how I said it.
>
>And, in truth, it DOES make a difference to me when I see that an official
>announcement from the band has been posted, yet reveals stuff about the
>album. Apparently, they wanted it known - and that's okay with me. But,
>yes, I suppose you're right - Even Mark should have put a spoiler warning
>in there.
Now all you need to do is turn on some pro-wrestling, slouch down on
the couch, stick your free hand down the front of your pants, take a long
guzzle of beer, let out a LOUD long belch (that pushes some beer-drool out
of your mouth and onto your shirt), and tell the wife to get her bitch ass
back in the kitchen, and make you some pie.
Then you'll be all set!
:)
Jeff
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:48:51 -0700
From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Neil Schon
Message-ID: <001501bf0aa2$e61e7a40$2aace1cc@falcon.wlv.esltd.com>
Brian Hansen asked about Pirahna Blues:
No, it is nothing like his last discs, which is a bummer for me. Anybody
who wants a truly beautiful guitar instrumental album, check out Beyond The
Thunder. Superb emotional playing, and really pretty songs and production.
Anyway, back to Pirahna Blues... It's basically a
guitar/bass/drums/vocalist blues/rock band, with a very bluesy sounding
singer, sort of in the older Bad Company vein. It's okay for what it is,
but nothing special... Neil plays really well, but it's just bluesy songs,
the kind of stuff you've probably heard a zillion times before. Sorry, I
don't have the disc handy or I'd tell you the players and track listing. I
only listened to it a few times, and then set it aside, and haven't listened
to it in about a month.
I also have the Santana CD, and it's pretty cool. I'm not a Santana fan by
any means, (his playing really annoys me for some strange reason, I find it
very stiff sounding) but I like this CD. It's got a good variety of
material on it, and I (who am obviously a very harsh critic) can listen to
it all the way thru without getting bored.
Hope that helps. Just bear in mind that I really am picky about what I
listen to. And hopefully I didn't offend anybody here:-). It's just my
opinion, not right or wrong...
Paul
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:26:55 +0200
From: "Jan Melander" <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Chris and Al's excellent adventure.
Message-ID: <199909291852.UAA16082@goethe.got.wmdata.se>
> Chris: Al, can you hear that faint swishing sound?
>
> Al: Yup.
>
> Chris: What is it?
>
> Al: That's the sound of Portnoy's snare bouncing of Petrucci's testicles
> and being picked up by a leaky cable on Myung's rig.
>
> Chris: That's almost as annoying as that booger whistling in LaBrie's nose.
>
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Way to go Al!
.. now were did I put those $10.000.... time for some serious shopping!
Cheers,
Janne
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Jan Melander, WM-data
jan.melander@got.wmdata.se
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#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:16:09 -0700
From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Various stuff
Message-ID: <002201bf0aaf$18e9e700$2aace1cc@falcon.wlv.esltd.com>
Wilmo had trouble with RealPlayer and Mike's site - Me too! I ended up just
doing the email thing. It showed up in about a minute. Very interesting
little snippet of music he gives us. But Al, what is that swishing noise?
;-) Oh yeah, Al, you said "Stone Cold"... I can't figure if that was a
wrestling reference or a Rainbow reference... No offense Fran... :-)
And Cheryl mentioned crappy KLOS. Yeah, they'll never play it. They have
improved over the last few months, but I'm afraid DT is way over their
heads... I first heard DT on Pirate 100.3 back in 92. Now that was a cool
radio station... Now they're easy listening... <sigh...>
Paul
P.S. A hint that a few of us seem to have missed... The easiest way to
make an annoying thread go away... Don't post about it!!!
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:55:16 EDT
From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Swimming at Odd Times
Message-ID: <1ca88e80.2523c8a4@aol.com>
Or even 17/19? hehehehehe ;-)
>Wouldn't it be more fun to swim across the Atlantic in 5/12?
Amanda>
>> Portnoy sed: If I haven't caved in all year, I'm sure as hell not doing it
now!!! That would be like swimming 3/4 across the Atlantic Ocean, getting
tired and then turning back!!>>
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:55:21 EDT
From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: What's That Sound?
Message-ID: <b4bb777b.2523c8a9@aol.com>
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist wrote:
>I think you should cozy up to some rich old hag. You could talk her into
buying you the ultimate audiophile system so we can talk about something
other than being practical. :) :)>
Just to translate for female jammerz ;-) - cozy up to some wheezing old fart
and run off with his money just after he has a heart attack from looking at
your tits .......
AND
>The conversation would go something like this:
Chris: Al, can you hear that faint swishing sound?
Al: Yup.
Chris: What is it?
Al: That's the sound of Portnoy's snare bouncing of Petrucci's testicles and
being picked up by a leaky cable on Myung's rig.>
Or it could have been the echo from Shrinian's Ego :-]
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:55:19 EDT
From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Smokin' Notes
Message-ID: <100652fd.2523c8a7@aol.com>
Jon Parmet wrote
>> From: Portnoy420@aol.com Subject: SLOWLY lifting the veil......
> Is Mr. Portnoy good at foreplay or WHAT?!!!!! (;
Umm perhaps we should ask his wife? Hey Marlene honey ....
But seriously, he is REALLY good at lighting fires in the jam and probably
pissing his pants at y'all right now .........
>>Lisa: Honestly people, my inbox was smoking from the flames therein ;}
>Nope, not gonna go there.... :-X
But I will - perhaps she set alight to the Peperami? 8-p
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:25:41 -0500 (PET)
From: ESPINO LAZO <a19962071@palas.pucp.edu.pe>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: from peru
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909291452010.21090-100000@palas.pucp.edu.pe>
Hi. How do you do?. I feel fine, because our Drean Theater will
get a new album since 17 October. Replay me, and good luck.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:31:07 +0200
From: Daniel Beziz <danjohn@club-internet.fr>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: problems with the wire
Message-ID: <37F2851B.B211E55D@club-internet.fr>
One more thing, when I try to listen to the wire on Portnoy's site, my =
real player does not connect and it is the latest version. Anyone else =
having this problem? As a result, I don't get to hear his messages. Any =
help would be appreciated.
Wilmo
Same thing happens to me . it says errors....login fails...and other stuff
Any help ?
Jonathan Beziz
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:56:44 -0400
From: "Adam Perkowsky" <perk1994@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Yahoo Hockey (NDTC)
Message-ID: <001201bf0ac5$879b4c00$76f01004@perk>
Hello everyone,
Has anyone set up a Ytsejam league for Yahoo's fantasy hockey? If not, I'll
be glad to. Please e-mail if you are interested or if you have already
formed a league.
Take care,
Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:10:02 -0700
From: Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ribbon Controllers
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990929151002.00ac4140@objypop>
What is a ribbon controller?
Well, the modern version of them works a lot like the "glidepoint" or
"trackpad" mouse replacement gizmos that are on a lot of laptops as well as
add-on devices for desktop PCs. They are touch sensitive, so they transmit
coordinate information based upon where you are touching the pad. Most
only transmit one dimension of info, left to right. See the Z1 for more on
that.
Here are some keyboards that have them, where they are located, and my
personal opinions. :)
Korg Trinity
Located below the pitchbend/modulation joystick. Feels okay, but the part
you actually touch is separated form the solid piece below, so you can
actually feel it depress slightly when you touch it. I'd be afraid that it
would rip.
Korg Prophecy
On the "log" controller, above the pitch and mod wheels. Similar feel to
the Trinity, but the whole thing can roll up and down. Difficult to
combine pitch, mod and ribbon at once for cool effects.
Roland JP-8000
Located in same place as Trinity. This one has a more solid feel to it,
much like a laptop trackpad. I own this board. :)
Yamaha EX series (5 or 7)
Located under the pitch, mod and mod2 wheels (notice a pattern?) larger
than the others, but has the "separate layer feel" like the Korg Trinity.
Korg Z1
A strange one. This is actually a 2d device. All other ribbons are only
linear. They just transmit left to right (and sometimes pressure) This is
a full x/y pad, just like a computer one. Located above the pitch and mod
wheels. Solid feel, but has bumps to find the center. Neat, but like
prophecy hard to combine with wheel motion.
Korg Triton
Same place as on the Trinity, but a solid feel. I want to own this board.
Kurzweil
One small ribbon located under the pitch and mod wheels. Has the separate
layers feel I don't like, and has a horizontal line down the center as a
finger guide, I guess. The K2500 (and maybe others?) has a large (about 2
feet long) ribbon just above the keys. It's hard to miss. Jordan uses
this a lot for big pitch changes and massive sweeps of sound.
Anything I miss? I know that there are some old ribbon devices that are
separate from keyboards so you can run around stage like Keith Emerson with
fireworks shooting out of it as you play a solo. This is the more vintage
ribbon controller, and I don't really know a lot about them.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:00:02 -0500
From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: IRC page gone?
Message-ID: <199909291722430.SM00219@newcombr.netdot.com>
Why did the IRC page get taken off the offical page? Just curious.
Thorin
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:32:37 -0400
From: "Sadbutunforgiven" <m99086a@bellsouth.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Saigon Kick
Message-ID: <000601bf0acb$9ef5a200$bd09d6d1@pavilion>
Is it just me, or does James' singing on the last cd, and that clip of home
from Hardradio sound a little like the guy from Siagon kick?
~~Hector
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:16:56 +0100
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: Ytse Dysfunctional Family <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: In times like these....
Message-ID: <37F28FD8.2394EF6@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
The current 'state of ytsejam' and all reminded me of a time at a remote
site, when a project was nearing completion. Deadlines were getting
tight and tensions were high as you'd expect. People got on each other
about the most insignificant of things. You know, the usual (substitute
finals week if yer still in school). It doesn't do the 'project' or
anyone any good.
It's funny though how the so-called smartest (self-proclaimed or
otherwise) people, who have all the answers, have it all figured
out....can be so fookin' stoopid sometimes! What's more amazing is how
we ALL, at one time or another, fall into that role :)
Enter: a guy who had his head on straight the whole time. One day, one
of the fellow workers who worked at this remote site - not necessarily
too high in rank or even all that critical to the project - handed me
the following. I have never forgotten that day nor the impact it made on
my ability to cope with the deadlines. I have it hanging in my office.
Substituting various words (like 'project') for the appropriate
term/phrase/whatever in the ytsecontext, maybe you find it works here,
too. For me, it's scary how close some of these parallel (for example,
taking turns to give advice on which CDs from a particular group to
start with based on who happens to be familiar with said group).
Here in Ytseland as some wait for that new thing, some are waiting for
the new disc while other already have it and are waiting for the live
tour (clinic) to hopefully come to their area. It's always something,
even if it's something different for someone other than you. In any
event, I figure this might help to keep the boat afloat. If not, get the
12-gauge out and take the whole flock out :)
Don't try to analyze it too hard or find a flaw in it. That's part of
the problem. The beauty is in just sitting back and enjoying it for what
IT is. Whatever you do, for Ged sakes, PLEASE don't get together with
friends, drop large quantities of LSD, and actually attempt to fly to
prove or disprove the statements :)
So, without further leakage on my part, I offer:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"LESSONS FROM GEESE"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As each goose flaps its wings, it creates an "uplift" for the bird
following. By flying in a V formation, the whole flock adds 71% flying
range than if each bird flew alone.
LESSON:
People who share a common direction and sense of community can get where
they are going quicker and easier because they are traveling on the
thrust of one another. (Sometime we get so focused on our own role that
we forget the common purpose - services, development, environment).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Whenever a goose fall out of formation, it suddenly feels the drag and
resistance of trying to fly alone, and quickly gets back into formation
to take advantage of the "Lifting Power" of the bird immediately in
front.
LESSON:
If we have as much sense as a goose, we will stay in formation with
those who are headed where we want to go.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When the lead goose gets tired, it rotates back into the formation and
another goose flies at the point position.
LESSON:
It pays to take turns doing the hard tasks and sharing leadership - with
people, as with geese, interdependent with each other. Again, all in it
together.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The geese in formation honk from behind to encourage those up front to
keep up their speed.
LESSON:
We need to make sure our honking from behind is encouraging - not
something less than helpful.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When a goose gets sick or wounded or shot down, two geese drop out of
formation and follow it down to help and protect him. They stay with
the goose until it is either able to fly again or dies. They they
launch out on their own with another formation or catch up with the
flock.
LESSON:
If we have as much sense as geese, we'll stand by each other just like
that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- AUTHOR UNKNOWN
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:28:32 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: IRC page gone?
Message-ID: <004f01bf0ad2$57ce21c0$0100007f@localhost>
Robert Newcomb wrote:
> Why did the IRC page get taken off the offical page?
> Just curious.
Actually, there are a couple of reasons why I decided to
remove the #ytsejam IRC section from the official website.
The most important reason right now is the amount of "inside
information" that is leaking out through the IRC channel...
It seems inappropriate to have this available on the official
website.
Also, UACM takes up a lot more time than it used to. The IRC
page was created when UACM was just a personal fan site. Now
that UACM is offical, I just don't have the time to keep up
with the #Ytsejam updates anymore.
The #Ytsejam IRC pages will be much better in the hands of
Irene, who will be able to devote the time that it deserves.
Mark Bredius
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:43:18 -0400
From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: the veil thingy.....
Message-ID: <199909291640203@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Well, Ive managed to remain pretty quiet during this whole "secrecy"
debate, silently reading the posts and shaking my head, trying
desperately to make sense of it all. Its fine to want to be suprised,
but must so many Jammers go to such extremes? Portnoy says that he
wants secrecy, but sooner or later the band or the record company is
gonna release info, he said that himself. Weather this is in the form of a tracklist or a sound sample, the album HAS to be promoted some way, after all, not all DT fans are hardcore jammers, plus theres also the prospect of gaining new fans. People are taking
Portnoy's secrecy policy and bringing it to such extremes that they
will refuse to hear any info, even when released by the band or label
themselves. All Im saying is - calm the fuck down people, its not
going to spoil the album, but more than likely add fuel to the
excitement of a new DT album! Hey, as soon as CDnow puts sound bites
of the 1st 5 songs on their site, you can bet your ass I'll be
listening. Does this make me any less of a hardcore fan? No, because
Im still gonna buy the album, and Im still gonna think it kicks
serious ass, and Im still gonna buy tix to as many DT shows as I can
see.
One more thing...don't try to tell me that you'd be like this if
Portnoy didnt have the "veil of secrecy." If his choice was to
disclose as much info as possible before the release date (like with
FII) you'd be all over the tiniest speck of information that you
could get your hands on. Being a hardcore fan doesnt mean obeying
every word a band member says and then multiplying it by 100...
Matt
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:53:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Question for you audiophiles
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909292049140.64790-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
I had a recital performance today that was SO good that I actually WANT to
get a copy for myself. But as is the problem with live-recorded audio, it
just won't be that great quality-wise. Even though it's recorded on DAT,
I'm sure there's going to be some noise, and that's where my question
arises.
If I were to transfer this to my computer to work on it, is there a way I
can isolate the frequencies of ambient noise to remove it using an EQ?
Keep in mind that this performance space is VERY live and the microphone
is a single stereo boom mic hanging from the ceiling that points directly
at the front of the stage of our recital hall.
If anybody knows, it's you audiophiles. I was also wondering if you might
know what kinds of equalization I can give it to get a more
realistic-sounding feel. I could send a portion of the file so that you
could get an idea of what kind of sound it would be, if you like.
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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Psychiatrists say that 1 out of 4 people are
mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK,
you're it.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:11:30 -0500
From: "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <00ee01bf0af1$8571ff60$16b38ad1@boner>
Gee, if someone is going to moderate this list for violations against the
veil of secrecy, at least they could get this crap off too.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:53:48 EDT
From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: New Creed
Message-ID: <2460b864.252438cc@aol.com>
Hey,
I just got the new Creed CD "Human Clay." It is awesome. Very good song
writing. They sound even better on this album then the first. They have an
excellent song about the birth of a child that is very emotional. Also,
there are more then a few God/religious references in their songs. Again,
very bold for a metal artist to do this-especially on their sophomore album.
All in all, it is outstanding. Also, I am going to the Creed show on October
13 in Chicago. If anyone else is going please e-mail me. The show is at the
Aragon "Brawl" Room. If anyone has seen a concert here before can you e-mail
me and let me know what it is like. Thanks in advance. I would love to see
these guys open for DT. They would complement each other very well. (There's
my DT component) Can't wait til the 26th.
See ya,
Todd
"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset."
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:56:38 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: what happened to the Laser's Edge?
Message-ID: <646de48f.25243976@aol.com>
I go to their website at lasercd.com, and I get a white background with a
bunch of ASCII. it's been like that since last night.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:01:57 -0700
From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: what happened to the Laser's Edge?
Message-ID: <37F2E0B5.4E70@pacbell.net>
JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:
>
> I go to their website at lasercd.com, and I get a white background with a
> bunch of ASCII. it's been like that since last night.
I know Ken's in the process of updating the Lasers Edge site to now
include a shopping cart feature. This could be the start of that
process.
--Coldfire DJFire on Ytseradio GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@onelist.com
"The way you come to me is such a mystery, I just reach out and connect" - Mystery - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:59:00 -0400 From: nmgerace@juno.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT humor....... Message-ID: <19990930.000738.-38197057.1.NMGerace@juno.com>
The prog-tologist said -
<SNIP> I think you should cozy up to some rich old hag. You could talk her into buying you the ultimate audiophile system so we can talk about something other than being practical. :) :)
The conversation would go something like this:
Chris: Al, can you hear that faint swishing sound?
Al: Yup.
Chris: What is it?
Al: That's the sound of Portnoy's snare bouncing of Petrucci's testicles and being picked up by a leaky cable on Myung's rig.
Chris: That's almost as annoying as that booger whistling in LaBrie's nose. <SNIP>
I THINK THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER READ ON THE JAM
LOLOLOL - just felt like adding my $.02
-NICOLE **create happiness**
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:02:21 EDT From: MyrBones@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DS Message-ID: <8fde91de.25243acd@aol.com>
hey, i am a long time Dream Theater fan, and i was just wondering if there was anyone else out there who has ever questioned Dereks Sherenian's sexuality.....because i have numerous gay and or bi-sexual aquaintances who are under the impression that he is either bi or gay. i myself have often dabled in the art of sex with men, and i from a personal standpoint believe that he might have some homosexual tendancies, and if he does then we certainly need to meet. and might his sexual preferance for men be a possible reason for being ousted from Dream Theater. just a thought?? MAYOR BONZ
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:10:56 -0700 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: what happened to the Laser's Edge? Message-ID: <002801bf0af9$cc91b9a0$046400c0@oemcomputer>
> -----Original Message----- > From: JamesAhab@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:02 PM > Subject: what happened to the Laser's Edge? > > > > I go to their website at lasercd.com, and I get a white > background with a > bunch of ASCII. it's been like that since last night. >
I don't know for sure, but I know that LE was planning on setting up a new site complete with secure on-line ordering. They might be in the process of putting this on-line.
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com
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