YTSEJAM Digest 5060
Today's Topics:
1) CDNow problem?
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Re: Vai
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
3) Re: The new Album: The Title
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
4) Getting slow
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
5) Re: New album cover?
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
6) Re: QR "news"
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
7) The new Album: The Real Cover?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5059
by "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
9) another new album title
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com>
10) Lie Single Available on Ebay
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu>
11) Megadeth drummers
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
12) Fire Garden piano part
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
13) FZ strikes again
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
14) Re: Jam digest number
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
15) RE: another new album title
by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
16) News (fwd)
by Raivo Hool <raitz@cafe.ee>
17) RE: The new Album: The Real Cover?
by Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com>
18) UNLIMITED LENGTHS & IRREGULAR SHAPES !
by fablamp@fablamp.com
19) New CD Title
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
20) xmass cds...
by DUD5701@cup.edu
21) Sub.
by SteveyChog@aol.com
22) new MALMSTEEN could be a winner.....
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
23) Paul Gilbert News
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
24) New Album Title
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
25) Scenes from a Memory ?
by "Preston Scheuneman" <scheunep@river.it.gvsu.edu>
26) Something amusing from Wired News
by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
27) New Dreamscape CD
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
28) Re: Damon and Mike's I-net radio show
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
29) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5059
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 02:28:11 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: CDNow problem?
Message-ID: <37D6FF1B.BA8DBB56@mol.com.mk>
I'm desperate here, pls help! :(
I've been just informed by CDNOw that concerning the order I did during
the 10$ discount period, that 1 CD is on backorder! It was nicely
writtem in the mail that I can cancel that item and have the rest CDs
shipped immediately! "Cool" - I thought, I'll do that! So I go and do
it, and the next screen appearing after I clicked that CANCEL button,
showed the remaining titles of my order, calculated in their USUAL
PRIZE!!!! What the heck??? I completed my order with the discount and I
got confirmation that says the total prize INCLUDED the discount! And
now this! How can it be??? Can they do that??? Was it my mistake that
the item was on backorder? Just because I made that change now when the
discount period is over, don't tell me that's the way it works - I get
the whole prize! What if I didn't do anything?
And now the prize that was shown was some 15$ higher! ;(
I'm in the mood of killing someone...
-- CyberDuke ________________________________________________"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:30:20 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vai Message-ID: <001001befa5d$b5750440$670d84d0@korgx3>
> Yeah really, I can't wait to hear his new album! Does anyone heard > anything! I heard a rumour there are singing songs on JAPANESE?!?!?! :)
Actually the first song, The Blood & Tears, has something of a strange linguistic approach. From the album sleeve it says Steve performed everything, but there's this part where he's singing in this odd tongue (if it's even him). He must have popped his voice into a filter cuz it doesn't even sound remotely like him (Or it's a sample). But the language and style of singing sound more Middle Eastern to me, perhaps even Indian (Bombay Vindaloo anyone?).
Overall, the album has a very cool vibe. It's more eccentric than Fire Garden. Very Zappa-esque in alot of places. The song Frank is dedicated to Zappa in the liner notes, although it doesn't sound as Zappa-like as Lucky Charms to me (which is track 10). The Song Jibboom is a tip of the hat to Stevie Ray (not the wrestler).
While musically it didn't astound me from the first listen (I've only had time for one listen), technically, it's an irrational wonder. Perhaps it's not musically as complete and captivating as his previous works, but I think it's his innovative peak thus far. I thought Ron Thal had the current monopoly on insane music, but Steve's thrown his gauntlet and I think it's a fair challenge. :)
Since Fire Garden really didn't grow on me until after the first few listens, I think it's safe to assume that this one will only get better as well. :) -- KorgX3 is the Korgodile Punter, mate. NP: Steve Vai - The Ultra Zone
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The new Album: The Title Message-ID: <19990909005640.12238.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com>
--- Jonas Opsal <jonasops@online.no> wrote: > > Sorry, but that's not it... The actual title is > "Mind of its own"!=20 > The cover art (!) can be found at > http://members.xoom.com/jonas44/newdt.jpg > It seems like they have returned to using the old > logo too! > I can't wait to hear the music.
Noooooooooooo!!!! I can't access the image. Either my internet connection is being a bitch (a distinct possibility) or XOOM is having server difficulties! GRARGH!!!!!! === *Trent
Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:05:11 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Getting slow Message-ID: <37D707C7.CB09CAD2@ucla.edu>
> You mean you missed the post from the insider at eastwest that > confirms the album *is* a concept album, and a triple CD concept > album > at that? And that KM makes a guest appearance on 2 tracks?
Wow, I'm getting old, or slow, or both. For a second after reading this, I found myself saying "wtf?" Tehn I realized "Oh, sarcasm. Hah."
-- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:14:59 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New album cover? Message-ID: <37D70A13.22AA8170@ucla.edu>
Lol Dan, those were almost my exact thoughts, though I was going with Picture Publisher more than PS. Looks like someone was testing out their new plugins ;P And hey dammit, there's nothing wrong with drop shadow, though I prefer Andromeda Shadow Filter much better.
I don't think I'm going to believe anything I hear on here, or on IRC for that matter. That goes for you too, Mape. :)
~~Amanda
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: QR "news" Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9909082215240.46134-100000@archa13.cc.uga.edu>
dthomas wrote:
> After hearing a good chunk of the new Queensryche at Powermad, I can > safely say that this new CD makes HITNF sound like Operation:Mindcrime 2 > This has to be one of the most uninspired CDs I've heard in quite some > time. Well, this one and the new Megadeth, I suppose.
> Of course, this is just my opinion, so who knows if I know what I'm > talking about or anything...
You do. I've had the full Q2K for months now, and uninspired is the perfect adjective for it as a whole. As for Risk, as a guitarist I'm very disappointed, but I've learned to like it OK as an album, with a few exception songs. Sure it's their worst album and overtly commercial, but at least....I don't know, I'd rather a band I like sell out and at least put some effort and work into selling out (heh heh) than a band I like put out something totally bland and emotionless (Q2K), as strange as that may sound.
**************************************************************************** Album Currently Playing: Edguy--Theater of Salvation **************************************************************************** | Matt Smith | ------------->|ktulu@arches.uga.edu|<------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "It's always been in my head to create giant pieces of music." -James Hetfield ****************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:40:31 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The new Album: The Real Cover? Message-ID: <000b01befa6c$bcc82d80$670d84d0@korgx3>
While the >real< new album cover doesn't offer any insight into the name of the album. It's a very unique cover.
Click here to fetch it: http://www.safelink.net/washburn/dtcover.jpg
And with that... -- KorgX3 can never be trusted. NP: Steve Vai - The Ultra Zone (Still)
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:52:07 -0400 From: "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5059 Message-ID: <199909090254.TAA02029@fugazi.torchsong.com>
>disappointed. I just hope it gets a bit better after a few listens, but it >will still be lacking that trademark awesome Megadeth sound (boy I miss the >Menza drum sound). Well, this is obviously my pissed off opinion, so >comment whatever you want. Thank you for listening. I don't feel any >better. > >Alexis methinks this was a well written review, when i heard the chaos surrounding the booting of Nick Menza, i lost a lot of respect for the band. You just plain dont boot a guy for issues like that, you say, take a break and get back to us when your head is back in it. Didnt anyone learn from the van halen/sammy hagar incident? Believe me, i have also wondered the same thing about DT, IM still a little bit unsure why they changed keyboardists, Derek seemed to fit well on many levels, and was probably the one member that was closest to commercial mainstream/success that the band has ever had. Just looking at his resume should key one into his ability. But the topic at hand, ne wmegadteh, I heard crushem on the radio, and thought it should be called crutchem, because that to me is what it needed. it has no hooks, and nothing to make me remember it by. Is it possible that Megadeth could posibly be suffering from the thoughts of, "hey we have been around forever, one of us has even been in metallica, weve made alot of money - we can fart on a record, It'll sell let's try it." When will they learn, the only person that could have farted on a record and gotten away with it is frank sinatra. Ohh well, just my highly opinionated thoughts put out on the table for discussion and review. merry christmas, and remember if it doesnt say fish sticks on the box, it probably never lived in the water.
Stan-natS
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@yahoo.com> To: "DT)B list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: another new album title Message-ID: <19990909030522.18913.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com>
from a newsletter I get BRAVE RADIO #113 :
"DREAM THEATER's forthcoming album is called Scenes From A Memory.."
--where they get this who knows (Bahr lives)...
also (from the same newsletter):
"Chicago-based guitarist/bassist TOSHI ISEDA's new album, Rama, is coming soon and get a load of the guest stars: guitarist John Petrucci (guitar, DREAM THEATER), bassist Andy West (DIXIE DREGS), keyboardist Jens Johansson (MALMSTEEN/DIO/STRATOVARIUS), keyboardist Derek Sherinian (ALICE COOPER/Dream Theater), drummer Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater), drummer Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs/WINGER), drummer Jonathan Mover (JOE SATRIANI) and others. Read about it at http://www.OVERTHETOP.com..."
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:38:25 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Lie Single Available on Ebay Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990908223825.0086c5b0@imap.indiana.edu>
Go for it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157423920
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:22:24 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Megadeth drummers Message-ID: <v04210100b3fcb6e1a3e4@[192.168.1.1]>
>disappointed. I just hope it gets a bit better after a few listens, but it >will still be lacking that trademark awesome Megadeth sound (boy I miss the >Menza drum sound). Well, this is obviously my pissed off opinion, so
Well, nobody seems to have mentioned this yet: Megadeth's former drummer Gar Samuelson died some weeks ago. He was the one who influenced the *real* trademark Megadeth sound ...
Steffen
NP: DT - " (hahaha) -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 01:49:03 -0500 From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Fire Garden piano part Message-ID: <37D7585F.5DF4@earthlink.net>
Cyberduke wrote... > And yeah, I was also VERY dissapointed to find out (by some jammer) that > Vai actually doesn't play the best piano solo I ever heard in my live > (Fire Garden Suite). Punk, why he didn't write it in the liner notes????
I didn't get to see the Fire Garden tour, but I seem to remember someone posting on this list that Mike Keneally played the piano part in question live. And he didn't mess it up, either.
Take care, Mark Peters epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:20:22 -0400 From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FZ strikes again Message-ID: <199909090823.EAA20599@mcp.csh.rit.edu>
I guess MP's love of FZ comes up again.
Dream Theater - " (Quotation) Frank Zappa - ' (Apostrophe)
Now if only the DT version of "Nanuc Rubs it" is on the album...
-davek
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:37:20 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jam digest number Message-ID: <493ec1d908graham@picsel.com>
> From: David Rothlisberger <drothlis@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: Jam digest number > Message-ID: <4.1.19990908122223.00964670@pop3.inspire.net.nz>
> > What was the number of the last digest to come from ytsejam@ax.com? > > You mean you missed the post from the insider at eastwest that confirms > the album *is* a concept album, and a triple CD concept album at that? > And that KM makes a guest appearance on 2 tracks?
Yes, I did. :-)
> I think a gentle reminder is appropriate, that if anyone ever thinks > they've missed a digest, they're all available at > ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/
I knew that, and tried it for several days, but the server was not responding; hence my query on the list. I probably should have mentioned that.
I also just needed an excuse to test the new list address; the ax.com mailserver refused to accept any posts from me. Apparently ax.com subscribe to some anti-spam blackholing system, and unfortunately my mail server here has found its way on to their "list". :-(
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:51:15 +0200 From: Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: another new album title Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E413@Mail.computec.de>
> from a newsletter I get BRAVE RADIO #113 : > > "DREAM THEATER's forthcoming album is called Scenes From A Memory.."
Yeah right. Sounds like the name of a well-known bootleg to me ...
Mike -- "What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?" -- Michael Pruchnicki Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone, Sega Magazin
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:18:36 +0300 (EEST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@cafe.ee> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: News (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909091318040.24448-100000@pillemati.cafe.ee>
MANOWAR, DIO and MOTORHEAD are slated to hit Scandinavia throughout November. (Monsters of the Millenium tour)
Chicago-based guitarist/bassist TOSHI ISEDA's new album, Rama, is coming soon and get a load of the guest stars: guitarist John Petrucci (guitar, DREAM THEATER), bassist Andy West (DIXIE DREGS), keyboardist Jens Johansson(MALMSTEEN/DIO/STRATOVARIUS), keyboardist Derek Sherinian (ALICE COOPER/Dream Theater), drummer Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater), drummer Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs/WINGER), drummer Jonathan Mover (JOE SATRIANI) and others. Read about it at http://www.OVERTHETOP.com...
The first Japanese single from HELLOWEEN's upcoming Metal Jukebox covers album is ABBA's 'Lay Your Love On Me'. The track is backed with 'From Out Of Nowhere' (FAITH NO MORE) and 'Something' (THE BEATLES)...
Rumours suggest that drummer Rick Allen from DEF LEPPARD will be leaving after the Euphoria tour is over...
DREAM THEATER's forthcoming album is called Scenes From A Memory...
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Raitz
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:34:22 -0400 From: Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: The new Album: The Real Cover? Message-ID: <FB6DDB4A76FED21181170090273C5FA8BEB262@atlmisech1.harbinger.com>
I heard the new album was going to be called "Smell the Glove".....
Shane Hunziker Harbinger Customer Support -------------------------------------- "You can find all you need in your mind If you take the time."--Dream Theater
> -----Original Message----- > From: Korg Ecksthrey [SMTP:korgx3@safelink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:50 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: The new Album: The Real Cover? > > > While the >real< new album cover doesn't offer any insight into the name > of > the album. It's a very unique cover. > > Click here to fetch it: > http://www.safelink.net/washburn/dtcover.jpg > > And with that... > -- > KorgX3 can never be trusted. > NP: Steve Vai - The Ultra Zone (Still)
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:17:02 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New CD Title Message-ID: <C75EB672C5CCD211A88300104B6A9EF05D0777@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
How about "Scenes from a Memory". That's what *my* copy of the CD has on it (hehehehe ......).
Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:19:26 -0400 From: DUD5701@cup.edu To: YTSEJAM@TORCHSONG.COM Subject: xmass cds... Message-ID: <990909141926.20267719@cup.edu>
long time reader, first time poster (i always wante dto say something like that, hehehe)
If anyone out there would be kind enough to email me privatly, I'm looking for high quality scans of the xmass cd liners. Water damage ruined the "real" copy I had, and I just got stiffed when I got a cdr of the 1996 one ( no artwork)
I'm willing to deal a bit, if that helps... :)
rock on Will
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:05:36 EDT From: SteveyChog@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sub. Message-ID: <e367c922.25095f00@aol.com>
Please continue with subscription....cheers
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:17:45 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: BG Mailing List <blind-guardian@onelist.com>, Subject: new MALMSTEEN could be a winner..... Message-ID: <37D815E8.C68BA3CC@earthlink.net>
Hail....
I just read this cool news about MALMSTEEN's new album...maybe finally he's got a great album coming out..instead of putting out the same album over and over agin......
cheers, Carlo (Fates)
NP: SUBWAY TO SALLY "Bannkreis"
----- Here's what i got on hardradio.com :
"Malmsteen recently spoke about his latest material: This is the first time I've made a record that is completely and utterly uncompromising. It's extremely self-indulgent, and it's extremely extreme, and I do not have any regrets about that at all. Some people might want to criticize that, and I truly honestly don't care. This is really what I want to do at this time, and I have a gut feeling that this is what my fans want, too. If they don't, well, I'm sorry... but as I said, this is my most uncompromising record. Even more that the original Rising Force, and a lot more than Marching Out or Trilogy. It doesn't have any ballads or commercial-oriented songs. It's all full throttle, from the beginning to the end. Just when you think it might let up and give you a break, it slams you again from another direction. Seventy-two minutes of madness." According to management, Malmsteen kicks off a worldwide tour on Halloween in Miami doing 3 weeks of dates including the New York area, Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco then on to Japan,Southeast Asia, South America, Europe, U.S. and Canada. "
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:20:33 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Paul Gilbert News Message-ID: <5447e9c5.25097091@aol.com>
Hey jammerz
Pablo Gilberto is in the studio recording with Racer X Racer X Racer X! He wants to get it back together .......
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:27:30 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Album Title Message-ID: <c2fb606f.25097232@aol.com>
Quotation
no quota it? (said with an Italian accent of course)
By the way the vampires in search of italian food joke was great - the Type O Negative mailing list sickos liked that one .....
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:23:28 -0400 From: "Preston Scheuneman" <scheunep@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Scenes from a Memory ? Message-ID: <001301befb09$90a89f80$4fbc6ec6@intech.net>
So according to HardRadio.com, the new album is called Scenes from a Memory. I'm almost positive that it's disinformation, probably from the mischievous MP! It's a tease, because I'm sure they wouldn't name it after a well-known bootleg that just happens to give a hint of Metropolis to it. So who do you guys think is the guest musician(s) from New Jersey that James mentioned in the chat? It's probably some local sax player or something, but it would kick serious ass if Symphony X's Michael Romeo played with JP in an ass kicking song. JP's got enough guitar to cover it by himself though! Also, James said the CD is about 77 minutes! Hell yeah! He said there was no left over either. It's probably better that way, because someone would complain that a particular cut track didn't make the album! So that means there are no left overs for the christmas CD. Which may mean that Met. 2 with Derek might me on the christmas CD, or maybe just the making of the new album type of thing. Preston
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:21:24 -0700 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: "'ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Something amusing from Wired News Message-ID: <000e01befb09$4597b440$046400c0@oemcomputer>
I found this little tidbit on Wired News (www.wired.com). It was in an article discussing the ongoing debate between record companies and artists over how to best utilize the Internet. I thought this section was rather amusing:
Liars for profit: Speaking to the marketing power of the Net, MCA's Sarig shamelessly admitted one of the dirty secrets of so called grassroots marketing: "We have a guerrilla marketing team that goes on America Online [to] individual Web sites and poses as fans. They say, 'Hey, you've got to check out this band,' just like real fans." Well, not JUST like real fans.
Makes you think carefully about who's posting and raving about bands on newsgroups and mailing lists. Of course, the types of music we discuss here are so far below the industry concern level, I doubt they'd bother. They're all too busy attempting to stir up interest in the next Backstreet Boys opus.
Thomas Dolby (remember him?) also has an interesting mini-rant against the current record company structure, which is also on the Wired site. Check it out if you're interested. And no, before someone asks, I have nothing to do with Wired, and don't get any money from them or anything. I just like reading the site. It's usually got something interesting on it. So does the site listed below. Occasionally, anyway...
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:30:30 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New Dreamscape CD Message-ID: <C75EB672C5CCD211A88300104B6A9EF05D0782@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
At the risk of getting two posts in one jam, I have to state how great the new CD from the band Dreamscape is. Their new CD is titled "Very" and is soooo reminiscent of I&W era DT, that it is scary. Maybe not quite as good, but so what. The only bad thing is that the CD does seem to start slowly as the first few songs are a bit too proggy for my taste (you know, the Enchant-type over fluffy keys, etc.). But thereafter, it really kicks in. And dont let the comparison to Enchant scare you off because when they get things in the proper gear, they have the "proper" level of heaviness. Buy it because you will love it !!
..... TRUST YOUR ELDERS !!
Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 19:45:48 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Damon and Mike's I-net radio show Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990909194421.009ed4c0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Jean. Thank you very much for the plug. I feel partially guilty about off topic postings on this list, but I work my ass off on this show and while we don't play much prog, I convinced Mike to let me throw on the Big Money at the end of the show. If you guys showed up and requested some more prog, he'd let me play some, as long as it isn't 25 hour long songs. The show is a lot of fun, and I would encourage everybody to check it out. Maybe, if it is popular enough, we can get some cool DT interviews going or something. It is on every Tuesday from 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time. At 11:16 PM 9/7/99 , you wrote:
>Man!! I've gotta say that Damon's and Mike's Internet Radio show kicked >some serious ass! Last night was the first time I've hooked up to it (from >work) and I was hooked from the first few minutes of hearing them talk. >Played some great music, and even took a collect call from Jar Jar >Binks......that was hysterical. I sent them 4 pieces of Email which they >read 3 of on the broadcast and it was cool hearing them read and talk about >them. Too bad you guys don't have any Symphony X CD's... You've gotta >check them out. > >Anyway, everyone should check out their broadcast Tuesday nights!!!! >Highly recommended. > > Jan-Michael
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 19:51:21 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5059 Message-ID: <37D847F9.66031FE2@yunque.net>
stan tyszka wrote:
> > methinks this was a well written review, when i heard the chaos surrounding > the booting of Nick Menza, i lost a lot of respect for the band. You just > plain dont boot a guy for issues like that, you say, take a break and get > back to us when your head is back in it. Didnt anyone learn from the van > halen/sammy hagar incident?
Uhhhh wait a sec, didnt nick menza quit because he was getting surgery for his knees or somthing like that? wasnt it Health reasons?!
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