YTSEJAM Digest 5065
Today's Topics:
1) Third Voice - Reflections
by GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE
2) Poll Results In!
by Steve V <vanaus1@yahoo.com>
3) Ibanez Necks
by Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
4) Just had to remark..
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
5) re: hmmm
by Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
6) How to post in plain text on Microsoft's Outlook Express!! PLEASE READ!!
by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
7) Jim Pitulski
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
8) New live mp3 shows available...
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
9) New Album Rule
by Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
10) Don't you get it?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) Re: WDATU: Studio?
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
12) Informational Request (no DT content)
by "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
13) Jason Becker CD Info
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
14) Re: New Album Rule
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
15) announcing no holds barred radio
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
16) nhbradio
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
17) Re: New Album Rule
by JamesAhab@aol.com
18) Conception suggestions
by JamesAhab@aol.com
19) Suggestions asked for
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
20) Re: New Album Rule
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
21) MIME bull-honkey
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
22) Re: ytsejam dictatorship (immaturity)
by "Episcopus" <simon_asselin@SPAMhotmail.com>
23) Re: IMPORTANT: The New Dream Theater Album
by Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au>
24) Re: ytsejam dictatorship (immaturity)
by Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
25) Superior Homepage ALL NEW (NDTC)
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:51 +0200
From: GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Third Voice - Reflections
Message-ID: <199909131951.HXhy@semagroup.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46 670 160 60 99-09-13 21.51
THIRD VOICE - Reflections USA
Rating: * * * 1998
PRIVATE
Time: 45:04
Third Voice are:
Jeff Kearney - Vocals
Jason Pirone - Guitars, composition, arrangement
Tracklist:
1. Reflections (6:30)
2. From Where You Stand (6:04)
3. Mission Of Time (5:34)
4. What We'll Be (5:34)
5. Mystery (4:06)
6. Never Know (5:38)
7. Innocence (7:52)
8. How It Ends (4:31)
Third Voice is a melodic progressive metal band with only two
members. The music is very technical and complex with reminiscent
to Dream Theater, Queensryche and Symphony X.
The bad production in combination with the drum machine and
sequencers makes it really hard to judge this album only by the
music. Both Jeff and Jason are without doubt talented and would've
fitted well into any established band; or else they should get
themselves a drummer. Jeff is a high pitched singer and the
multi-instrumentalist Jason are a good composer. So if there's any
band out there in need of a singer and guitarist, or if there's a
drummer in need of a job, contact these guys!
The highlights are the excellent "Reflections"; "From where you
stand" with very good and positive lyrics, probably the best track
on this album, "Mission of Time", the aggressive "What we'll be",
the beautiful ballad "Never Know", the longest track "Innocence"
and the last track "How it ends".
If it weren't for the production this would've been one of the
better progressive metal albums from 1998. If they put together a
whole band they might have the future in their hands. Give it a
try!
-Reviewed by Greger R=F6nnqvist-
Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se
Snail Mail: Greger Ronnqvist
Risselasvagen 66 B
833 35 Stromsund
Sweden
ICQ No: 17275819
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Contact:
Third Voice Website: http://www.geocities.com/~thirdvoice/
Questions, comments and info, e-mail Jason Pirone:
thirdvoice@geocities.com
CD ordering info:
Check or money order payable in U.S. Funds to Jason Pirone. Send
it to: Third Voice, P.O. Box 97841, Pittsburgh, Pa.15227, USA. The
CD costs $12 in the U.S., $13 outside U.S.
CD available at these locations:
The Record Exchange
4864 McNight Road Ross Township, PA 15237 (412)635-3170
5858 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh, PA 15217 (412)422-2123
2904 W. Liberty Ave Dormont, PA 15216 (412)341-6591
The Record Exchange Website: http://www.recordexchange.com/
WEE-BEE Guitars
800 Brookline Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15226 (412)341-4466
Mook's Compact Disc
3047 West Liberty Ave. (412)561-5881
THE EDGE
CENTURY 3 MALL West Mifflin, PA 15123 (412) 653-9562
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve V <vanaus1@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Poll Results In!
Message-ID: <19990913203458.22615.rocketmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com>
I polled myself on what the most used Subject header on the jam will be
over the next few weeks. After e-mailing myself in private the results
are in!
ASDF
Anyway, what does everyone think the chances are that DT will do
Christmas shows this year? I got to see two of the five last year
(Chance and Toad's Place), was thoroughly blown away and was hoping to
experience the same this year.
Steve
__________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:38:52 -0400
From: Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ibanez Necks
Message-ID: <4.1.19990913163253.00a774b0@mail.ee.net>
>Anyway, Ibanez necks are not known to be the most stable in the business.
>The headstock is glued on at appr. the 3rd fret or so, and the stock
>Ibanez necks tend to bend a little backwards at that point (sight along
>the neck).
>
>
>T.S
Hmmmm...that's strange, the neck on my Ibanez RG570 has been perfect, straight
as an arrow, since I bought it in 1992. To this day it still plays
beautifully, and I've never
eve had to re-seat a single fret. Low action, no buzz. Never one single
truss-rod adjustment. But then, maybe that is because I clean and oil the
fretboard every time I change strings
in order to care for it. To this day it's still completely road/stage
worthy, and still my favorite
axe out of everything I've ever owned in the past 14 years. Maybe I just
got lucky? ;-)
DaveH
http://www.mikeportnoy.com
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:48:00 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Just had to remark..
Message-ID: <37DD6300.352F7122@ucla.edu>
Wow, I think we broke the speed of MIME. All those one line sub
requests sent to the WRONG ADDRESS and encoded. Yay.
~~Amanda
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:22:57 -0400
From: Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: hmmm
Message-ID: <37DD6B31.F8862DE4@udel.edu>
"just a thought...
if the new title actually is "scenes from a memory" and since its a line
from metropolis, that could possibly be a clue that metropolis 2 could
be
included...but i dunno...thatd be cool"
Well, the initials of the new album supposedly are SFAM, but I heard
that it actually stands for "Seriously Fucking Anal Music"
Forget Met2, they could mean they're doing a bunch Backstreet Boys and
Boy George covers. That would f---ing rule <g>
-- Chris Jerolamon ckj@udel.edu------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:41:17 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net> To: "ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: How to post in plain text on Microsoft's Outlook Express!! PLEASE READ!! Message-ID: <000701befe30$b664d7a0$7384fea9@jeremyku>
Hi Everyone, I'm hopping up on top of my soapbox. I, like many others are downright sick of seeing ignorant and selfish people who post in MIME or HTML format. It is unfair to us people that rely on the ytsejam to give us information. The posts are annoying and I totally scan through them because I DO NOT want to read all the crap that is attached. I figured that now that the Ytsejam has a new home, I would give everyone that ever wanted to know how to change the format of their e mails if they are using Microsoft Outlook Express. The process of changing from MIME or HTML format to Plain text is so simple that a blindfolded monkey could do it. That is why I am on this soapbox right now. CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?!!? I knew I could. To change from MIME/HTML to plain text do the following (this is applicable to the most popular mail progam, OUTLOOK EXPRESS) Go to the top of the screen with the program open. Click on Tools, when the menu cascades go to options, when the new menu cascades, choose READ. Then, go into the menu and click from HTML/MIME to Plain text, choose apply at the bottom of the cascading menu, or okay, both will work. You are now in business, and won't be pissing myself or many others off again. If you need further help in figuring this out, feel free to e mail me privately. I'm off the soapbox (for now). Later, J Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major inflammabl@aol.com kube@fullnet.net "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater.
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:04:55 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jim Pitulski Message-ID: <v04210101b403240ced34@[192.168.1.1]>
>got the following from Jim Pitulski (DTC, but i don't recall the >connection....anyone wanna fill me in?)
He was DT's manager together with Rob Shore till late '94. When both broke up their company called Roundtable DT decided to part ways with Jim and went on with Rob Shore.
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:34:39 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New live mp3 shows available... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990913181630.009927a0@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey again everyone...
There's a big update on the ftp server due to the generosity of some of my users (I've been damned busy). Here's what we've got:
Dream Theater - Instrumental I, Instrumental II, Instrumental III (Thanks to Steph) Led Zeppelin - 6/20/80 (thanks to Ed) Ozzy - 4/13/96 (Thanks to Diezel Weasel)
So we're getting a pretty good collection going here: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Led Zeppelin, Symphony-X, Savatage, Ozzy, Liquid Tension Experiment, Floyd, Rush. Drop by if you haven't already, and uploads are always appreciated.
A new feature that's still under development is the supporting webpage for the site. It includes instructions for connecting (fear not, it's cake) and downloading. I'm not going to put the IP address in the emails anymore for several reasons, including the fact that I get tons of email on connecting, so this web page takes care of all that. Please feel free to email me, however, if you're having problems after looking at the page.
http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1
New: There are samples of some of the most recently added shows available directly from the webpage. These are full songs, but they're the shortest songs in the show. Some people requested these to check out the sound quality on the newer shows.
As soon as I build another machine to host this thing (soon) there will be another major update, including full shows from Queensryche, Dream Theater, Savatage, King Crimson, Kansas, and maybe some other cool stuff as well. I'll be changing addresses and may have a bit of down time when I move in late October/early November, but I'll let you know beforehand. Keep checking in...
So check out the page, and enjoy...
Take care everyone...
Adam
_________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 41032734 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tapelist and FTP site info __________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:40:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New Album Rule Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9909131838080.126618-100000@archa15.cc.uga.edu>
This is the freakin' Dream Theater mailing list, yet we can't say anything at all about the new album. Geez, gimme a break.
**************************************************************************** | Matt Smith | ------------->|ktulu@arches.uga.edu|<------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "It's always been in my head to create giant pieces of music." -James Hetfield ****************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:07:03 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Don't you get it? Message-ID: <001501befe45$184f47c0$490d84d0@roboplooker>
> This is the freakin' Dream Theater mailing list, yet we can't say anything > at all about the new album. Geez, gimme a break.
Well, I can understand it. If you have info about the album, keep it to yourself, that's all. I know I wasn't the only person who had FII completely ruined because of all of the reviews posted here weeks before the album was even out. The Derek vs. Kevin wars were already in full swing a week before the album was released. Every song was available in some listening format >in full length< prior to its release. I ended up unsubbing from the list because the shit was so thick.
So, basically, I think moderating DT from the DT list for the time being is a good idea. If you'd like to have the album spoiled for you I'd suggest possibly hanging around alt.music.dream-theater or what-not.
And these lame rumors are just as bad as the truth, if not worse. So deal. -- KorgX3 pushes Matt of off the hill and begins a seven minute reign in peace. NP: Mullmuzzler: Keep It To Yourself.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:16:49 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: WDATU: Studio? Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990913201649.008608f0@mail.ptd.net>
>From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> >Subject: Re: when dream and today unite(?)
>The band has basically said that there are no plans >to re-record those old songs with James as they really don't care to cover >old ground and would rather keep moving forward.
As far as I knew, this was the case, until the recent post-LTE-chat chat with John Petrucci in Yahoo the other week. (Yes, it *really* was John.) JP revealed the band's future plans to *at least* remaster and redistribute WDADU; and when asked, said they *might* consider somehow overdubbing/replacing the vocals. I shit you not. For all we know, this could still never come about, but I personally like the idea.
~Brian
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:27:39 -0500 From: "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Informational Request (no DT content) Message-ID: <000901befe61$1ecbad20$4a7f5181@tcs.tulane.edu>
Hello Jammers,
Could anybody send me by private e-mail information about the bands Cynic, For Absent Friends, or Kindred Spirits
Thanks, Kevin Loechner EECS Junior Tulane University
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:11:47 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jason Becker CD Info Message-ID: <007a01befe67$475211c0$88f7aa26@multimedia>
Raspberry Jams: CD release date October 5.
]From Jason:
To be Released in 1999. These songs were all recorded so I wouldn't forget them as possible songs for some CD. I never planned on releasing these versions, but as I listened to this stuff, I thought, "hey, it isn't right to hide this neat music." So here you go. I hope you get as big of a rush listening to it as I do. Includes duet with Marty Friedman.
Becker-Ola (3:52) late 1990 Mandy's Throbbing Little Heart (1:28) early 1990 Amma (0:44) late 1990 When You Wish Upon A Star (1:52) early 1990 Jasin Street (4:06) early 1990 Beatle Grubs (2:40) late 1991 Grilled Peeps (1:18) early 1989 If you Have to Shoot...Shoot - Don't Talk (5:04) early 1989 Purple Chewable Fern (2:37) early 1989 Black Stallion Jam (3:14) mid 1990 Amarnath (0:35) mid 1987 Angel Eyes (3:13) mid 1989 Throat Hole (1:49) mid 1988 Dang Sea of Samsara (4:22) late 1989 Urmila (2:11) mid 1987 Thousand Million Suns (5:26) mid 1989 Clean Solo (3:04) mid 1990 Too Fast, No Good for You! (0:44) late 19?? Sweet Baboon (1:33) early 1989 Shock Tea (1:06) late 1987 Ghost to the Post (4:36) mid 1989 Blood on the Traches (2:10) late 1988 Oddly Enough (2:08) mid 1989 Crush (0:24) late 1990 Vocal Silliness (0:34) early 1992 TOTAL TIME 61:02
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:10:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Album Rule Message-ID: <19990914041043.23258.rocketmail@web502.yahoomail.com>
--- Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> wrote: > > This is the freakin' Dream Theater mailing list, yet > we can't say anything > at all about the new album. Geez, gimme a break.
Simmer down man. We all know that the new CD is going to be cool; what else needs to be said? The release date is only a few weeks away so no big deal. === *Trent
Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento
"Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:11:04 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: announcing no holds barred radio Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990914000817.00a09a90@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
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I would like to do a quick plug for my show. We have had one ytsejammer irreparably damaged by our transmission. Teh poor boy will never be the same. I would urge you all to follow suit. If you want to hear prog rock, you have to listen and send email to our request box and then I will actually be able to play it if it isn't a 50 minute long song. And why would you want to miss us? We actually listen to requests, if we have it. We are also pretty damn funny. We told off jarjar binx last week. And how could you miss that? If you miss us, you could kick yourself. Download winamp today, and point it to 216.32.166.89:21944, or goto our web site at http://www.nhbradio.com. The attached file is a winamp playlist that will connect your directly. Please, for the love of Gopd, at least give us a chance. I'll play dream theater if 10 of you mail in a request. I promise. I swear on my ... girlfriend.
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:13:04 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: nhbradio Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990914001248.00a591e0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Shit, forgot too give the time, 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time tommorrow.
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:37:23 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Album Rule Message-ID: <89a7bb6b.250f2b03@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/14/99 12:26:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cybertrent@yahoo.com writes:
>< Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento ><
Trent, your site's been shut down by XOOM already.
Jim
"The entire muffin industry in this country is a joke!" - The Newsroom
Listening to: Spock's Beard: The Kindess of Strangers Royal Hunt: Paradox Carisma: 1825
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:59:55 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Conception suggestions Message-ID: <3c48474.250f304b@aol.com>
Can anyone suggest a good first Conception album? I'm thinking either In Your Multitude or Parallel Minds.
JB
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:22:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Suggestions asked for Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909140114270.78161-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
I'm going to sign up for Columbia House because of their "Play" system (doesn't have those stupid cards to send in), which offers 15 CDs to begin with (and yes, I know what I'm getting into with the company). However, I have decided to increase my horizons somewhat in the process.
I'm looking for a good Yngwie CD to start with, as well as good FW CDs - I already know I'm ordering APSoG. I was wondering if anybody might know of any others that I could buy. So far, here's the list I'm thinking of getting:
* DT: ACOS, I&W (wanted to get them for a long time and just haven't gotten to it) * ICP: The Great Milenko, The Jeckel Brothers, Forgotten Freshness 1 & 2 * FW: APSoG FW: Parallels, Chasing Time (if any FW fans suggest not getting any of those latter two, please tell me) * Star Trek Insurrection & First Contact soundtracks * Mozart's Requiem * Bach's Magnificat / Vivaldi Gloria Yngwie Malmsteen: Inspiration, Facing the Animal
* = Definitely getting
That's my list so far; I may change it if I get any great suggestions. If anybody has any suggestions of any other good bands I should look into or mind-shattering albums I should buy, please let me know (via private mail, of course). I wanted to buy some Spock's Beard albums, but they don't have any on Columbia House. I also think I might get some Pat Metheny stuff and some Pink Floyd, of which I still own none of the albums.
Altogether, that's four additional albums I can purchase. I'd appreciate any feedback whatsoever anyone is willing to give me. Thanks in advance.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is "God is crying." If they ask why, another cute thing to say is, "Probably something you did." -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:32:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Album Rule Message-ID: <19990914053204.12599.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
--- JamesAhab@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/14/99 12:26:15 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > cybertrent@yahoo.com writes: > > >< Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) > http://members.xoom.com/el_trento >< > > Trent, your site's been shut down by XOOM already. > > > Jim
Yup. I'm working on a new one as we speak. The URL is included at the end of this here e-mail. Nothing is up yet except a blurb, so there ya go. Thanks for reminding me to change my sig tho. === *Trent
Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/cybertrent
"Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:38:36 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: MIME bull-honkey Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE9E1@messaging>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEFDDD.E2124340 <snip>
BWAHAHAHAHAHA - just kidding... :)
One small problem:
The majority of the fucks who post in MIME are just those sending subscribe requests to the wrong address - thus, they're not reading the jams just yet anyway, now are they? :)
> The process of changing from MIME or HTML format to Plain text is so > simple that a blindfolded monkey could do it. That is why I am on this > soapbox right now. CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?!!? I knew I could.
David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:45:22 -0700 From: "Episcopus" <simon_asselin@SPAMhotmail.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ytsejam dictatorship (immaturity) Message-ID: <19990914065106.94124.qmail@hotmail.com>
I agree. I mean, what age are they?
I've been subscribed to the ytsejam for a very long time. I think from somewhere like digest 800 or something. Usually I unsubscribe in the low periods between albums though because the jams can become quite tedious and boring to read then. I remember when we were actually afraid that DT were going to be canned before the release of Awake. I remember the excitement over the release of the first boots and the hype over the Subconscious project by Mike Bahr. I remember when we were actually starved for any bit of information over anything having to do with DT. I remember the true spirit and kinship of the YTSEJAM. I remember that because I saw that Michael Burnstein (sorry if I've mispelled your name) is still there, and was the one who I did my first 'big' boot trade with way back then.
Now everything seems to be gone. We have some morons who think they know better than us by witholding information. What's the use of that shitty mailing list now? It's clear now that it's no good for new and exclusive information about Dream Theater. Maybe it's still good for learning about the newest DT-I&W-Clone-Blah band...
The worse thing is people posting "Hey I know about the new Dream Theater album but you don't! No I won't tell you!".
The ytsejam mailing list is now an official, controlled and censored vehicle no different from the Official Website (c) minus the pictures.
.and you know what? I don't even want to read that information about the new album! I just can take it that people still try to play Big Brother in 1999.
Atrox <rphill@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote in message news:06c9b2b6.2f3a9642@usw-ex0102-012.remarq.com... > Did anybody read the post saying that you'd be kicked off > the ytsejam list if you posted any rumors or information > about the new DT album. Puhleeeeezzz. I think thats taking > it just a little bit far. Trying to keep the suspense level > high is one thing, but thats just a little Draconian. Grow > the fuck up. What a crock of shit. > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:50:04 +1000 From: Scott Gordon <scott@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: The New Dream Theater Album Message-ID: <37DDFE2C.4A4948B5@powerup.com.au>
> There is a new Dream Theater album coming out October 26th. > Everyone knows this. The band want to keep the information about this > album quiet UNTIL October 26th. Anyone on this list who has any > information about the album is asked NOT to post it here. Let me > actually one up that a bit. Anyone posting information regarding the > new album (real, fake, rumor, joke, or otherwise) will be IMMEDIATELY > removed from this list. This is NOT a joke. The album is purposely > being kept quiet and starting rumors here (or even telling real > information that you know) is STRICTLY forbidden.
You're joking, right? No information about the new album until it's released? Why? Do the band think that if someone knows the track listing before the album comes out that they won't buy it?
Obviously, I don't understand. Part of the reason I joined the 'Jam was to get news on the upcoming album. *sigh* Looks like I'll have to start reading alt.music.dream-theater...
Gordo
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:52:57 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam dictatorship (immaturity) Message-ID: <37DE0CE9.32C1909D@2.sbbs.se>
Episcopus wrote:
> ...and you know what? I don't even want to read that information about the > new album! I just can take it that people still try to play Big Brother in > 1999.
Mike Portnoy has personally ordered the people who have this information to keep quiet, so basically you want us to stab him in the back and release all the information? If you're gonna get pissed, you should get pissed at Mike and not us. What you really should do is respect the bands wishes and hold on till the release.
Regards // Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:56:06 +0200 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Superior Homepage ALL NEW (NDTC) Message-ID: <4.1.19990914115437.00976e70@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
My first message to the new ytsejam. :)
I just wanted to tell you that I have re-designed the official Superior homepage. It's all new... have a look at http://www.free-minded.de/ and leave a message. :)
Bye
Bernd
---------------------------------------------------- Bernd Basmer Guitar - Superior
For info about Superior have a look at http://www.free-minded.de/ ---------------------------------------------------- It's only work if somebody makes you do it.
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