YTSEJAM Digest 5436
Today's Topics:
1) Extended periods of 4/4 time
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435
by "Jason Gelnett" <jgelnett@matsci.com>
3) Re: Good Luck....
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
4) anybody get the Dregs at HOB? NDTC
by "Wade A. Caudle" <slash@zebra.net>
5) Re: sarcasm / Frank Brennan
by "Pye, Adam" <apye@kcc.com>
6) Whining (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434)
by elmariachi@metallica.com
7) Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433)
by elmariachi@metallica.com
8) Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433)
by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
10) re: good luck....
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
11) Wouldn't it be nice if...
by MusicSnob@aol.com
12) Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album
by MelodyDrone@cs.com
13) Tony Levin on track 7 of LTE2
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
14) Re: mindcrime
by Bunny1682@aol.com
15) Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
16) Needed: band demos
by "Tony De Laender" <fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
17) Belgian/Dutch jammers, I need some help !!!
by "Tony De Laender" <fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
18) "Through Her Eyes" single
by "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
19) help? please?
by "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
20) ISO: "Falling Into A Change of Awake"!!
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
21) longest consecutive 12/5
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
22) Re: John petrucci mistakes
by "chahram riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com>
23) Re: WDADU time sigs
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?PETER_LIDSTR=D6M?= <winger@swipnet.se>
24) Cool, it's Transatlantic/Classic Rock mag
by "Charlie Farrell" <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
25) Lacuna Coil
by "Charlie Farrell" <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
26) Lines In The Sand
by "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com>
27) Re: Home
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
28) RE: Extended periods of 4/4 time
by "T.D. Smith" <tdsmith@tdsmith.org>
29) Fantasy Orchestra?
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
30) Re: Fantasy Orchestra?
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:38:32 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Extended periods of 4/4 time
Message-ID: <38FC8176.577CCF09@alphalink.com.au>
Out of the songs i know I think PMU gets a bit funny around the time when JP does that fast lick,
but apart from that Id say its all 4/4. Another Day is all 4/4. Under a Glass Moon is 4/4 except
for the solo and a bit after the chorus. Afterlife is all 4/4. As someone said a lot of WDADU sounds
mostly 4/4 but I havent got through it yet. Plus a lot of stuff on FII is, like Hollow Years and I think
Burning my Soul.
I was wondering if they did a whole song in only one odd time sig. I know Surrounded comes close
but it switches between 9/8 and 4/4.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:42:30 -0700
From: "Jason Gelnett" <jgelnett@matsci.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435
Message-ID: <862568C5.00563611.00@msc_nt2.matsci.com>
Im serious here. Even if people don't think that this is what they think, they
do.
It's hard to believe that someone used this in a sentance. It's even harder to
believe that it makes sence to me?????????????????
Jason : )
np: Toad the Wet Sprocket / chicken
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:51:52 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Good Luck....
Message-ID: <39241198.209356C3@wezl.org>
Just a quick guess off the top of my head, and no research...I'd have to
say "Through Her Eyes" or "Another Day" whichever is a longer song.
MelodyDrone@cs.com wrote:
>
> Dream Theater is known for their elusive style and limitless
> compositions. This also includes a vast array of time signatures. So my
> question to all you hardcore jammers who like a good challenge, just like me,
> is what is the longest consecutive period of time on a DT album that is
> played in 4/4 time? (This doesn't include LTE or any other side projects)
> Give the song names and track times the 4/4 time signature occurs during.
> <For example: -Lie 5:30-Lifting Shadows Off a Dream 3:21->. Remember
> consecutive time.....
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:51:10 -0500
From: "Wade A. Caudle" <slash@zebra.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: anybody get the Dregs at HOB? NDTC
Message-ID: <000201bfa94f$1ea05dc0$faee0cd1@slash>
Did anybody get a copy of the high-speed video or sound from the HOB show.
Unfortunately, I live in one of the most non-technologically-advanced areas
in the country, so I don't have access to such wonderful gadgets as
broadband.
Wade
6PackLiquoor
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:57:41 -0500
From: "Pye, Adam" <apye@kcc.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: sarcasm / Frank Brennan
Message-ID: <CF2C9F6501B6D211862500805F15297F03EB3B76@ustcax09.kcc.com>
> np: Widespread Panic - Wish You Were Here.mp3 (perfectly legal, since WsP
> aren't a bunch of greedy corporate pawns....)
Woohoo! Another Panic fan on the 'Jam. That makes three that I know of now
(including myself). Is that the awesome Wish You Were Here from the recent
Huntsville show (which I was at, I might add)? :)
You'll never see Panic pulling a Naptallica...
Adam
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Date: 18 Apr 2000 09:43:22 -0700
From: elmariachi@metallica.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Whining (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434)
Message-ID: <20000418164322.14623.cpmta@c003.sfo.cp.net>
Okay...I'm new heren (in fact, this is my first post), but I have to wonder how this guy puts up with the odor in the place where he's obviously stuck his head???
> But then again, judging from the
> tame, all-nerd crowd I observed at the 9:30 club show in February
Hmm...I was at that show. Never considered myself tame. Nerd? Maybe; I AM here talking to people in my computer about a band because I have no "real" friends to discuss DT or prog rock with. Guess that qualifies.
>It's like you guys need to put down other bands to prove DT is worth
> listening to.
Well, here I am, obviously a Metallica fan, sticking my neck out in this group of Metallica-haters, and you don't see me whining about those who don't agree with my musical tastes.
> And by the way, in terms of both musicianship AND showmanship, the Dixie Dregs
> blew Dream Theater away that night
Probably the only good point this guy has made...but for me it was because I EXPECTED Dream Theater to rock, which they did, and therefore they "met expectations." I had no idea what to expect from the Dregs, so I was pleasantly surprised by their outstanding performance - a tough act to follow. Don't know if I'd say "blew Dream Theater away" though. They were just both excellent in their own ways. Even the Star People were entertaining, in an endearing, retarded younger sister kind of way. I kept picturing the cast from 3rd Rock doing Priceline commercials with William Shatner...
> Dream Theater just turns up the volume so loud that you can't hear James screech
> out of key or hear how many notes Petrucci misses during the really fast stuff.
> Once in a Livetime makes that glaringly obvious - once the volume is low, DT just
> doesn't do it nearly as well live as they do in the stuido.
Has anyone else heard about this cool invention? I think they call them ear plugs or something...they're supposed to make loud things quiet, I think.
True, James screeches and misses the really high & loud stuff in live shows. But the volume doesn't hide that. And if Petrucci misses a note or two...well, I play guitar, and if I could hit 1,234,458 notes out of 1,234,460 notes per evening, I'd be pretty damned proud of myself. Who am I to be critical of any performer? To me, the fact that they have the guts to go out there and TRY something as ambitious as SFAM live is impressive in and of itself.
> Enough from me. I'm outta here.
Thank God. I will sleep better tonight.
-El Mariachi
"I'm the little boy who pushes hard and makes 'em cry."
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Date: 18 Apr 2000 09:52:00 -0700
From: elmariachi@metallica.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433)
Message-ID: <20000418165200.15046.cpmta@c003.sfo.cp.net>
>> 1 - your language makes you sound more intelligent, I promise...hahaha
>the fact
?that a person occasionally peppers their speech with some traditional
>invective has about zero correlation with their brainpower, as far as I'm
>concerned.
I wish I could remember who said the following (I think it's either from Remo Williams, some Japanese philosopher, or from the original Kung Fu series)
"Profanity is the feeble effort of a weak mind to express itself forcefully."
Not that I practice this bullshit...it just sounds good.
-El Mariachi
"See the black cloud overhead? That's me."
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:02:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0004181201510.14362-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
"Pithy homilies are the feeble effort of a weak mind to sound like it has
something more than a single lonely marble of original thought rattling
around."
;D
-Brian
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 elmariachi@metallica.com wrote:
>
> >> 1 - your language makes you sound more intelligent, I promise...hahaha
>
> >the fact
> ?that a person occasionally peppers their speech with some traditional
> >invective has about zero correlation with their brainpower, as far as I'm
> >concerned.
>
> I wish I could remember who said the following (I think it's either from Remo Williams, some Japanese philosopher, or from the original Kung Fu series)
>
> "Profanity is the feeble effort of a weak mind to express itself forcefully."
>
> Not that I practice this bullshit...it just sounds good.
>
>
> -El Mariachi
> "See the black cloud overhead? That's me."
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Check out Metallica's Official Web Site at http://www.metallica.com
> For 200+ channel 24/7 commercial free music visit http://radio.www.com
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.21.0004181215090.79048-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
>Dream Theater - Streams of Consciousness" 2CD $40 (originally $50)
>Original painted disc Mike Bahr bootleg. Color liners.
>In excellent condition.
still waitin for this gem to show up.....$50 well spent
On another note, does anyone know where I could get a copy of the
1st Chicago show on the Infinity tour, Nov. 1 I believe. Please e-mail me
privately if have info, thanx!
--Derek
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:04:55 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: good luck....
Message-ID: <20000418180455.17369.qmail@hotmail.com>
I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty
long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you
consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST
of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs
are, if I'm not mistaken.
Go back and listen to WDADU. There's A LOT of odd time stuff on there...you
may be right about the songs near the end, as I don't listen to those much,
but there's a lot more odd time stuff on there than I originally thought.
It's just written very well, so it doesn't sound odd...I love those 4/4-12/8
transitions on OAMOT...uh, yea..
-Fran
np: The Slip - From the Gecko (now, you want some utterly BIZARRE rhythmic
goings-on, check these guys out!)
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:03:03 EDT
From: MusicSnob@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Wouldn't it be nice if...
Message-ID: <69.3cfd0eb.262e1977@aol.com>
Dan Temmesfield actually wrote a post now and then to the jam instead of
constantly spamming it with cds for sale? I know he actually has something
to say (occasionally, at least on the old King's X list), but this is getting
ridiculous.
I do like the fact that people are taking my nick in vain around here lately
;-)
NP: Steel Prophet - Messiah
Kevin, who laughs at the poor Kings fans, and pities the poor Blues fans
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:20:32 EDT
From: MelodyDrone@cs.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album
Message-ID: <ea.4303570.262e1d90@cs.com>
In a message dated 4/18/00 11:12:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty
long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you
consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST
of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs
are, if I'm not mistaken. >>
Yeah Home is in 7/8 in some of parts of the outro and 19/16 as well. But
WDADU has a flurry of time meters all throughout just like any DT album, but
'Afterlife' comes close to being in common time except for a couple measures
of 5/4. I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let
Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even
longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred'
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Date: 18 Apr 2000 21:00:26 -0000
From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Tony Levin on track 7 of LTE2
Message-ID: <20000418210026.31902.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>
I'm a doughnut, I've forgotten the name of the song
(Liquid Dreams?)...Anyway, is *that* a Chapman Stick? I
figured it was, because it has that weird sort of
squelchy sound to it. But I was messing around on a
Yamaha RBX (four string with humbuckers) striaght into an
amp, and it had exactly the same squelch factor.
So I should be asking: what is that squelch sound if not
the stick?
Me like!
I'm seriously planning on lowering myself by an octave
and a half, so I'm curious about these things. I was
going to get a Yamaha BB (or a Rickenbacker 4001 if my
Bank Manager's a friendly Chris Squire fan too) G5,
because I hate the way they look. So can I get that sound
from any bass? What the hell is it (not an effect, 'cos
this was stright into the amp).
~Simon
p.s. I suddenly realised: it's been about 2 months since
I had any idea where the cover of my copy of SFaM is...:(
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:00:56 EDT
From: Bunny1682@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: mindcrime
Message-ID: <79.31afa82.262e2708@aol.com>
Boy, do I feel like an idiot. I guess it's just me.
In a message dated 4/18/00 5:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gilpdawg@webtv.net writes:
> <The lyrics don't tell the story.>
>
>
> Really, I got the story in about an hour with the CD blaring and the
> lyric sheet in front of me.
> Peace,
> Barry
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:28:48 +0000
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000418162848.01159938@pi-r-squared.com>
>Yeah Home is in 7/8 in some of parts of the outro and 19/16 as well. But
>WDADU has a flurry of time meters all throughout just like any DT album, but
>'Afterlife' comes close to being in common time except for a couple measures
>of 5/4. I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let
>Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even
>longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred'
Lie and LSOAD maybe... I think both have some non 4 parts that sneak in
there, Scarred is only in 4 in the intro, I believe. Man I can't believe I'm
actually joining in this discussion ;)
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"There is nothing more pragmatic than idealism" -David Mamet
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:22:50 +0200
From: "Tony De Laender" <fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Needed: band demos
Message-ID: <LPBBIKKCAJGDGMBMPNFBCEBKCBAA.fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
Hi all,
I'm starting a new prog-magazine for Belgium/The Netherlands and one of our
features will be reviews of demos from beginning (or not so beginning) prog
acts. If you're interested in getting yours reviewed in one of the next
issues,
please contact me, and I'll mail you the snail addy where you can send the
goods, as well as a rundown of the information we'll need about the band.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Proggy greets,
Tony De Laender
Editor, Progeny Magazine
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:32:54 +0200
From: "Tony De Laender" <fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Belgian/Dutch jammers, I need some help !!!
Message-ID: <LPBBIKKCAJGDGMBMPNFBOEBKCBAA.fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
Hi,
Sorry to waste bandwidth again, but I'm looking for BE/NL jammers who know
addresses where I would be able to sell a new prog-magazine. Preferably
smaller/specialised record stores. Anyway, email me, I need addresses,
phone numbers, fax numbers, emails, anything to get me in touch will do.
Thanks in advance.
Proggy greets,
Tony De Laender
Editor, Progeny Magazine
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:06:14 -0400
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: "Through Her Eyes" single
Message-ID: <007701bfa982$5061e9e0$6e7c0b18@stcl1.mi.home.com>
Could somebody refresh my memory on what the difference is between the
Japanese and European versions of the "Through Her Eyes" single. CDNOW has
the German version, and I can't remember if I should hold out for the
Japanese.......
Thanks,
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:37:34 +0200
From: "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: help? please?
Message-ID: <000701bfa986$b3aaf2e0$eded1dc3@sasha>
hi!
okay..someone posted some info on mIRC channels and when I realized how much
great rare stuff can be found using that piece of software i installed it...
and i've spent whole damn evening trying to figure out how to actually
DOWNLOAD files. But I didn't get it... I asked questions on help channels
but no-one asnwered. So, if there's a jammer who's into this kind of stuff
and who would be willing to enlighten a mIRC newbie, I'm all ears...
please...
I know how to search for something but i don't know how to download it when
i get the results...
sorry for a non-dt-related topic guys...
thanx in advance
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:43:29 -0400
From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: ISO: "Falling Into A Change of Awake"!!
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000418183307.009b9340@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey folks..
I'm looking for an MP3 of the "Falling Into a Change of Awake" medley
played on the recent European leg of the tour. If anyone can help me out
with this medley, or an entire Euro tour show, please reply via private
email. I'll be getting some of these shows on CD in awhile, but I'm
anxious to hear that medley. :) If someone helps me out I'll post what I
get on Lines in the Sand for everyone to grab. Thanks!
Adam
_________________________________________________
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http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1
^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:37:15 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: longest consecutive 12/5
Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117CC3@MESSAGING>
> I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let
> Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even
> longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred'
JLMB is NOT all 4/4 - there's some crazy stuff going on in there... :)
David
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:01:29 GMT
From: "chahram riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: John petrucci mistakes
Message-ID: <20000419000130.74983.qmail@hotmail.com>
Well, I don't really know if it is a mistake but in the 5 years in a
livetime video, during the intro of Metropolis it seems that John Petrucci's
finger slips on the strings at one time and his guitar makes that strange
noise. Also another funny moment is when Mike hits the mike stand during To
Live Forever and five minutes later the stand is miraculously back where it
was.
The 5YIAL video is amazing, I notice new things everytime I watch it!
If anybody on this list doesn't have it yet, I say go get it!
--Chahram
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:23:18 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?PETER_LIDSTR=D6M?= <winger@swipnet.se>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: WDADU time sigs
Message-ID: <001001bfa995$76cb00e0$566497d4@amd>
Andrew coutermarsh wrote :
I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty
long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you
consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST
of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs
are, if I'm not mistaken.
Uhhh ... hehe ...
Mostly in 4/4 ?
Someone better go back and listen to it, methinks ...
*****************************************
Peter Lidstrom
Lead guitar player in SAHARA (sweden)
www.geocities.com/winkken
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:51:48 +0100
From: "Charlie Farrell" <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Cool, it's Transatlantic/Classic Rock mag
Message-ID: <00b501bfa99c$96b686c0$a587bc3e@pbvpu>
Mr Borland wrote
> Got my Transatlantic special edition CD today. I can honestly say
> that this is the most beautifully packaged CD I have ever seen. It
> was well worth the delays and the wait - the packaging is
>GORGEOUS.
I have to agree - it's very nice indeed. Up on a par with the Digibook
versions of 'Far Off Grace' and Luca Turilli's solo effort. These
digibooks are a huge improvement on the digipack or dodgypack
which seem to start falling apart after a month or so.
> The latest edition of Classic Rock magazine here in the UK has an
> enormous five-page feature on Transatlantic, together with a fantastic
> review of the album (full 5 stars) and We All Need Some Light on
> the cover CD. You should all buy this magazine immediately.
I agree - its by far the best english language rock mag at the moment.
Q and suchlike are full of indie stuff and Kerrapppppp! and Metal
Hamster are obsessed with the likes of Slipknot and Kittie.
Unfortunately the Classic Rock cover CD has been polluted with a
Slipknot track (a problem of being part of the same production house
as Metal Hamster - cross marketing sucks!)
http://www.futurenet.com/futureonline/magazines/issue.asp?div=3&id=85&iss=13
This months (Issue 14) contains:
- 6 pages on the making of 'Masters of Puppets'
- 4 pages on Steely Dan
- 5 pages on SMPTe/Transatlantic
- 6 pages on Jimmy Page/The Black Crowes
- 8 pages on Jimmy page (part 2 of an interview)
- 1 page on a beginner's guide to Alan Holdsworth
- 3 pages of David Geffen
- 23 pages of book/disk/gig reviews
+ news and a cover CD containing
Deep Purple, Hendrix, Dio, Malmsteen, Jadis, BJH, Transatlantic
etc
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:38:01 +0100
From: "Charlie Farrell" <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Lacuna Coil
Message-ID: <00b601bfa99c$9804b1a0$a587bc3e@pbvpu>
Lacuna Coil have been playing the UK and Ireland over the last few days
following the release of their new (and rather excellent) new EP - Halflife.
They played an excellent set on Saturday to a few hundred souls here in
London on Saturday night and impressed the hell out of me (and Ashley as
well, I think). Christina Scabbia's voice was phenomenal - every bit as good
as on disk and she begins to rival Anneke (The Gathering) in my affections.
The set was quite short by todays standards (about 1hr 15mins including
encores) but very heavy and I can honestly say that the band gave their
all, so if you are a fan of 'Mandylion-period' The Gathering, give them a
listen. I much prefer Lacuna's new stuff to some of the dreary stuff on 'How
to measure a Planet'
Their website can be found at http://lightning.prohosting.com/~lacuna/
Unfortunately I think that 'Halflife' EP only has a European release at
present.
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:46:47 CDT
From: "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Lines In The Sand
Message-ID: <20000419034647.6136.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Jammers...
Someone mentioned Lines In The Sand being in 4/4 all the way thru...
I have to disagree as I can hear a strong 6/4 in some parts.
Space Dye Vest gets my vote for being longest in 4/4... I haven't heard
about any odd times in there....
poj
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:05:31 -0400
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Home
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000419000531.007b8320@mail.ptd.net>
>> "Home" is all in 4/4, isn't it? I haven't checked, but I'd say
>> it's probably
>> THE~~>Home....
>> Fran
>
>Nope, Home has a bit in 7/8 if I remember correctly, around the 11 minute
>mark.
Let's not forget my favorite sig of all time: 19/16! Which also appears
somewhere within the chaos that is "The Dance of Eternity".
I'm immature.
~Brian
NP: The sound of my foot tapping in 19/16.
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:29:11 +0100
From: "T.D. Smith" <tdsmith@tdsmith.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Extended periods of 4/4 time
Message-ID: <GKEOIDNEGMBPLFLLKJIMEEGACBAA.tdsmith@tdsmith.org>
> Under a Glass Moon is 4/4 except
> for the solo and a bit after the chorus.
The verse is in 6/4
> someone said a lot of WDADU sounds
> mostly 4/4 but I havent got through it yet. Plus a lot of stuff
Light Fuse and Get Away, TOWHTSTS has loads of alternates
> on FII is, like Hollow Years and I think
> Burning my Soul.
> I was wondering if they did a whole song in only one odd time
> sig. I know Surrounded comes close
> but it switches between 9/8 and 4/4.
It depends how you split the bars. I could say a piece was in 7/4 when it
was really, alternating 4/4 and 3/4, whether that's still "odd" is a mater
of opinion.
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:26:45 +0200
From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Fantasy Orchestra?
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000419112645.007a0a40@pop.gmx.net>
Nightmare Cinema is now presumably over since Derek left and Jordan AFAIK
doesn't play guitar. However, do you think they might reincarnate it (hey,
the spirit carries on) in another form? The line-up could be:
Jordan Rudess - vocals
Mike Portnoy - guitar
John Petrucci - bass
John Myung - keys
James LaBrie - drums
We know James played drums for 10+ years so he could do the drums, freeing
up the vocalist spot for Jordan, who presumably only plays keyboards.
Petrucci would go from one stringed instrument to the other and Portnoy can
probably tackle guitar. That leaves just Myung in the same spot as with NC,
but all others are changed. What do you think?
Totikus
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:49:56 +0200
From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy Orchestra?
Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030872E8A4@fileserver2>
> We know James played drums for 10+ years so he could do the drums,
freeing
> up the vocalist spot for Jordan, who presumably only plays keyboards.
Jordan plays guitar, too. He also sang on his solo album "Listen".
> Portnoy can probably tackle guitar.
Yup.
> That leaves just Myung in the same spot as with NC,
Myung should play the violin! :))
- Mike
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