YTSEJAM Digest 5574
Today's Topics:
1) re: An (im)Perfect Circle
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
2) re: Canon in D
by "Wes Foll" <wesfoll@hotmail.com>
3) RE: Phoenix show
by James Chris-SC4473 <Chris_James-SC4473@email.mot.com>
4) Ringtones and shows
by mildew@ucla.edu
5) Re: Kez, you b*stard...
by MTeiper@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by agoldman@bates.edu
7) DT fans living in 115 degree conditions (Re: DT in Phx)
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
8) Nuno Bettencourt gigs
by "Alan Estrada" <alan_estrada@hotmail.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5572
by "Renato Matos" <renatomts@ig.com.br>
10) Oh, and another thing
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
11) Okay, so I'm an insomniac too
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
13) NYC plans
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
14) Transatlantic swap
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
15) Re: Oh, and another thing
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
16) Minneapolis Ytse gathering
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:52:07 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: re: An (im)Perfect Circle
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34024B1C9A@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> I just bought A Perfect Circle yesterday and took it home. I
>> was absolutely ASTOUNDED at how great this album is. If
>> you like metal and you like Tool, then BUY THIS ALBUM!
Hmmmm .... I like metal and love Tool a ton but this just doesn't set well
with me. At all. Five complete listens. No dice. The first $10 gets this
puppy post-paid. I just dont see what y'all do ....
BTW, this old fart will indeed be in NYC and I do like beer !! What be up
?? Is Merlo going to flex his middle-management muscles and coordinate
something ??
Cheers,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:19:43 PDT
From: "Wes Foll" <wesfoll@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Canon in D
Message-ID: <F37P0kvdIBirXXeQM7g000029dd@hotmail.com>
---Brian,in reference to Canon in D---
>all manner of power ballads, straight-ahead rockers, you name it. Off >the
>top of my head, U2's "With Or Without You" -- it's not exact, but >the
>resemblance is definitely there. Others?
>Brian
One of the TSO songs uses Canon in D doesn't it? I agree totally with
people who think that this song goes great with rock songs. Hell, lots of
classical music songs mesh excellently with rock...especially metal and prog
rock stuff. The two go together perfectly methinks. It's probably my
favorite classical tune, it evokes just tons of emotions...very powerful.
..And now back to my regularly scheduled listening to Dream Theater's Opus
Magnum "SFAM." hehehe
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wesfoll@hotmail.com
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wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu
djwes10069@mail.ytseradio.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:54:12 -0700
From: James Chris-SC4473 <Chris_James-SC4473@email.mot.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Phoenix show
Message-ID: <998D18C9C6DAD211879C0008C7F9F077030AAA7F@az10exm01.sat.mot.com>
In regards to the Phoenix show:
I've lived here in AZ for a year and I have liked DT since I&W came out.
However, I do not know anyone who likes them as much as me. Some say they
are ok, and the others don't like them or Rock (can you believe that??).
Anyway, I was looking for someone to meet either at the show or to go to the
show with. I live in the east valley area and I work at Motorola. I was not
looking forward to going alone, but I am looking forward to the show. I am
not looking for a date or anything, I just have not made many friends yet
here. I am from Detroit, 33, male and married.
Anyway, thought I might take a chance. I've seen some of the postings here,
so please don't reply if your only going to chastise me. Maybe someone out
there is in the same situation.
Chris
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Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:47:27 -0800
From: mildew@ucla.edu
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Ringtones and shows
Message-ID: <200008092255.PAA17869@caracal.noc.ucla.edu>
I have no idea what a ringtone is, but a friend of mine with absolute pitch occasionally gets numbers by listening when someone calls home on a pay phone. I have something like relative pitch and know when I dial a wrong number in the same way ;)
As for SF show, I think I'll be there if I can. If anyone who doesn't know me sees a tall woman with long blonde hair wearing a lot of leather, chances are it's me, provided I am there. And to think, last time I saw DT, I got a mild case of frostbite..
~~Amanda
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:26:57 EDT
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Kez, you b*stard...
Message-ID: <b2.920b4af.26c350d1@aol.com>
In a message dated 08/08/2000 8:08:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Excuse me? Have you SEEN the smoldering ruin that used to be MSG lately? >>
Amen, brother! That's a great way to put it, too. What a friggin' AWESOME
concert. I *still* haven't recovered. :-)
- Matt T.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 100 04:33:13 GMT
From: agoldman@bates.edu
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
Message-ID: <200008100433.AAA23653@abacus.bates.edu>
I second Andrew's motion...I heard that CD for the first time today on the way
to the Motley Crue/Megadeth show (the second time I've seen Maximum Rock this
summer...excellent show), and I was blown away. Very powerful stuff, with some
progressive touches. And needless to say the vocals are awsome. But word has
it Tool is working on a new album, so fear not!
Ari
>I just bought A Perfect Circle yesterday and took it home. I was
>absolutely ASTOUNDED at how great this album is. If you like metal and
>you like Tool, then BUY THIS ALBUM!
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Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:39:43 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT fans living in 115 degree conditions (Re: DT in Phx)
Message-ID: <3992320F.80055190@imap1.asu.edu>
Yeah, there are DT fans in the Sonoran desert, you just have to know
where to look!
You could always go to Guitar Center Tempe, play the solo to Under a
Glass Moon on five different guitars through the dual rectifier and meet
some fans that way...or wear DT tour shirts wherever you go...and
there's always the legacy of Mike Bahr bootlegs, which were produced
right here in the valley.
And then there's this Big Ass Forum. It's usually your best bet. :)
I'm up for a pre-show party at Cooperstown resturaunt. Hooters' food at
the Arizona Center just sucks. Or, if there are any objections (okay,
cover charges suck but it's just an idea), we could meet at Le Girls
cabaret! }:^D
Web Theater is on Van Buren and 5th street, I believe. Lots of options
for grabbing a few drinks before or after the show (before is usually
more convenient) as there are NUMEROUS pubs/bars/7-11's in the area.
Mr. Voras, Mr. LuPone, Uncle Dave, I know yall are reading this! Let's
get some organization going here! :) Send emails to here or at
eckie@asu.edu if these seem like good ideas!
<overly sensitive guy says>
We never see each other anymore! *sob*
What the hell happened to Mike Bahr anyways?
~Eckie wonders how much a Diamondbacks jersey with the majesty logo on
the back would run him
PS- I'm older and wiser now. And I promise, I won't make fun of
Portnoy's haircut or LaBrie's goatee this time.
:) *as I put on a hat with fake long hair*
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:57:57 GMT
From: "Alan Estrada" <alan_estrada@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Nuno Bettencourt gigs
Message-ID: <F726dDKfJyjAMBXuuTn00006d5c@hotmail.com>
from http://www.hotelasylum.com
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- Ticket information for the US shows as follows:
August 1st - State Theater, Portland, Maine SOLD OUT
August 2nd - State Theater, Portland, Maine (supporting Godsmack) - Tickets
available from Ticketmaster $22.50
August 5th - Beach Club - 3 Ocean St Apt Frnt N, Salisbury, Massachusetts.
Tel: 978-465-8283
August 12th - St Michael, Azores (venue unconfirmed but will most likely be
a part of the August Wave Festival)
August 23rd - The Attic - Upstairs at the Union Street Restuarant, 107 Union
Street (Rear), Newton, MA. Tel: 617 964 6684
August 24th - The Station - 211 Cowesett Ave, West Warwick, Rhode Island.
Tel: 401-823-4660
tickets available at tickets.com, US$6.00.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:31:03 -0300
From: "Renato Matos" <renatomts@ig.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5572
Message-ID: <000f01c0028c$2e4191e0$3d26ffc8@matos>
Hello friends!
In this difficult moment I've been thinking of some words to comfort all
those who worry about the future and to explain a reason for all this. For
there's one single reason: the loyalty to an idealism.
Angra was born on real friendship and lots of dreams within. Many of them
came true, thank to the help and care of all those who followed us around
the world: fans, press, business people... We reached out a level we could
never expect and there would have been much more to conquer... So, problems
started out. Frequently we'd been having serious discussions with our
management in Brazil. There was a period, right before Fireworks, when the
confidence in each other seemed already ruined - and that almost caused the
split then. However, with promises that everything would be cleared and
fixed up, we gave ourselves one more try. Those were just vain words.
Although we've accomplished both the record and tour, what we saw then was a
lot of misunderstanding and falsity, and the band being forced to face it
all just as "business". It was the beginning of a big disharmony between us,
the members. And of course, it would also reflect on the musical side.
For me, the name Angra - which now belongs to the manager - always meant
professionalism and quality. Somekind of magic that we can't explain...
And I just couldn't watch it die. I just wouldn't say I stay in the band and
do "one more record" for the sake of money. If once we ever told the press
that the day we would be no longer creative we should stop, that's the time.
I believe myself as a musician and I believe we shouldn't betray our very
instincts and that's why I'm having this attitude.
Of course, I worry about the many fans who feel lost now, but one thing is
to be said: I'm not dead and I feel even stronger now! And I won't let you
down.
Now the plans point to Virgo (which actually has nothing to do with the
Angra split...) - But the future keeps an open door with my friends Luis
Mariutti and Ricardo Confessori, who left the band for the same reasons as
me. We three think we shouldn't let the angel fall and although we might not
keep the Angra name, we keep all the rest.
Thank you very much for your friendship and understanding and can't wait to
meet you all again around the world!!
All the best,
Andre Matos
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Yes, its over now....DAMN IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:09:42 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Oh, and another thing
Message-ID: <39924726.A703C46@imap1.asu.edu>
Is there anybody on this list affiliated with www.shredi.net?
I don't want the domain name, but the radio tower image used for the
logo looks suspiciously similar to the image I designed for Ytseradio a
while back. It could be a silly coincidence, of course. But the whole
logo looks very similar to the original lettering/logo combo (hell, even
the red on white theme matches) of the original Ytseradio site.
You can take away my shredi name, but you can't take away my logo....
TAKE AWAY MY LOOOOGOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T NEED IT ANYMOOOOOORE!
Shredi.com is still available...although I probably shouldn't have
mentioned it.
I BET PORTNOY and the gang CAN'T PLAY the TOP GUN theme.... It's a
pretty difficult piece, for the guitar anyways... ;)
Oh well, one can always hope :)
~Eckie is a shredi knight. A defender of the Muso Way Galaxy. 8th
notes, 32nd notes, 12th notes, conflict there is not. Only speed and
melody. And fragmented sentences with bad grammar.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:08:20 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Okay, so I'm an insomniac too
Message-ID: <399254E4.3C63A5C6@imap1.asu.edu>
But, I had a brilliant thought. Truly extraordinary.
*start Chris Farley imitation*
NOW! WOULDN'T IT ROCK...IF JAAAAAAAMES LABRIE *hands shake to the left*
imitated SOUTH PARK *hands jolt to right* and REALIZED how much more
entertaining "JUST LET ME BREATHE" would be if he shouted "TIMAA!" over
and over through the song instead! WOULDN'T THAT BE A HOOT!?
~Eckie and the Lords of the Underworld
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:26:00 +1000
From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573
Message-ID: <39925908.E556F007@alphalink.com.au>
Danzig, as someone mentioned was originally part of the classic band Misfits.
His solo career, which included a lot in the industrial genre, was very
contraversial (sp?)
mainly because it sucked. I think the guys not bad when he's good, but terrible when
he's
bad.
> Just watched a video of this band called DANZIG. LOL, what the heck is
> this, ... I thought this form of metal has dissapeared. Hercules singer,
> extreme chessy headbanging factor of the wankers and the most boring
> drummer I ever heard.
> I just bought A Perfect Circle yesterday and took it home. I was
> absolutely ASTOUNDED at how great this album is. If you like metal and
> you like Tool, then BUY THIS ALBUM!
>
Yeah! They have an incredible sound and the album is very strong. Sometimes it
can be a bit too much like Tool mk. 2 though. Kind of Tool without the King
Crimson/Pink Floyd influences.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:08:12 -0400
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: NYC plans
Message-ID: <399262EC.BE1@atl.mediaone.net>
ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
>
> Your posting to list YTSEJAM was rejected.
> Reason: message size limit exceeded (maximum allowed: 10000 bytes)
Yea, no doubt, I made a boo-boo. Give me back my damn elm and Ubi shell
account, damnit. :)
As for NYC plans -- some had mentioned a pre-show gathering. I'd kinda
like to get in line early and maybe even get in front during the show.
This has become a bit of a tradition for me at DT shows lately (Atl.
Tabernacle, Orlando HOB, Chicago HOB, Atlanta Masquerade....)
One thing I've learned, especially from that Chicago show: NEVER eat or
drink heavily before a show. :)
-- +---- Paul W. Cashman, pellaz@atl.mediaone.net ICQ 4151223 -------+ | Website: http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/ | | or www.paulcashman.com :) | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:53:48 +0200 From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Transatlantic swap Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107022E1D53@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
is there anybody out there (preferably in Germany) who has an ordinary copy of Transatlantic and who would like to swap for the limited edition copy with the bonus CD? The bonus CD does nothing for me, but my CD dealer reserved a limited edition for me. Contact me personally. If I can't find anybody in Germany, other European countries will be considered.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com) Currently playing: BILL HICKS - Rant In E-Minor
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:22:09 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oh, and another thing Message-ID: <39929061.FE411388@yunque.net>
Eckie wrote:
> Is there anybody on this list affiliated with www.shredi.net? > > I don't want the domain name, but the radio tower image used for the > logo looks suspiciously similar to the image I designed for Ytseradio a > while back. It could be a silly coincidence, of course. But the whole > logo looks very similar to the original lettering/logo combo (hell, even > the red on white theme matches) of the original Ytseradio site.
This is the info that network solutions gives on this domain, i dont know if youve cheked it already but her eit goes: Registrant: SHREDI KNIGHT RECORDS (SHREDI-DOM) PMB #314, 369-B 3rd St. SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 US
Domain Name: SHREDI.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: SHREDI KNIGHT RECORDS (SK921-ORG) no.valid.email@WORLDNIC.NET SHREDI KNIGHT RECORDS PMB #314, 369-B 3rd St. SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 US 415 652 0081 Fax- 123 123 1234
Record last updated on 28-Mar-2000. Record expires on 02-Jul-2001. Record created on 02-Jul-1999. Database last updated on 10-Aug-2000 01:08:17 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
LARRY.SHREDI.NET 64.1.168.131 CURLY.SHREDI.NET 64.1.168.132
Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:47:39 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Minneapolis Ytse gathering Message-ID: <3992A46A.CAB43E1B@isd.net>
Greetings fellow Jamsters,
This is just a little reminder about the pre-show meeting at "Old Chicago" pizzeria.. (located within a block of the venue) We'll be there between 1:30 - 3:30 woofing down pizza and beverages.. (Adult beverages for those of age) I have a finite supply of backstage passes available (and several of those are already spoken for) so I'm thinking about distributing them in a raffle... Or perhaps a little YtseQuiz. :-) We'll play that one by ear.
I'd HIGHLY recommend making the pre-show meeting.
Weather Update: It's going to be HOT and HUMID in the afternoon so consider that when selecting concert wear..
For identification purposes, I'll be wearing a FII hat backwards.. :) I'll also be wearing the matching blue FII concert T and sporting DARK sunglasses.
Dats right, we bad!
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:02:59 CEST From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573 Message-ID: <F19y3SpwBGpEI2rV4Zn000047fc@hotmail.com>
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:17:53 -0700 (PDT) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Atreides?= <muaddib_of_arrakis@yahoo.com> >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5572 >Message-ID: <20000809211753.7518.qmail@web3204.mail.yahoo.com> > > >50 days remaining!!! >nearly 1119 hours and 36 min.!!!!!
Did I miss something here? What is this countdown to?
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:11:47 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573 Message-ID: <3992B823.D0005A8B@picsel.com>
Ricardo Testa wrote: > >50 days remaining!!! > >nearly 1119 hours and 36 min.!!!!! > > Did I miss something here? What is this countdown to?
New Year.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:14:17 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573 Message-ID: <002101c002d5$48682bd0$0201010a@chuck>
> Did I miss something here? What is this countdown to?
The end of the world. Nostradamus was only a year off. AHHHH!!!! -- KorgX3 drinks a Pepsi through his bellybutton.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:05:23 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5573 Message-ID: <20000810110523.B309@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-08-09 at 14:29 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:25:11 -0700 > From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> > Subject: opening forNYC show > > D-Man asked > > i haven't heard officially -- is SB opening for DT in NYC? (could i > > find any other TLAs to throw around?) > > ]From what I recall, this will be another "Evening With" so there won't be > any openers (like the Limelight, Uncovered and OiaL shows before it)
God dammit, I should have gone to the Philly show. :(
Anyone go to Detroit? How was Tiles?
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> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:17:44 +0700 > From: "Aris" <Aris@softhome.net> > Subject: Rush question NDTC > > after TNMS down, is there any mailing list of Rush around? can somebody tell
You know, the NMS sucked, but there's been nothing to replace it. Which is a shame. I heard about the Jam through the NMS, *and* met Psycho Hose Beast #3 because of that list. (Those of you that were at the Boston Rush show in '96 know who I mean.) Maybe someone should fire up another list. I'm not even sure if the FAQ is still intact. ::wheels start turning::
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:30:24 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net> > Subject: Hell yea, I'm Roseland-bound! :) > > Got the ticket for the show, and got the tickets for the plane rides on > the way! I arrive around 11am at Laguardia and have NO idea how I'm > getting to the venue, or for that matter where I'm sleeping after the > show, but damnit, I'm coming! :) Can't wait -- this is gonna be fun!
Dude, this is going to be a freaking blast. :) Too bad they're not playing Bitch Hell. I'd suggest a pre-show at the Fantasia. :)
-d NP: TA/SMPTe
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