YTSEJAM Digest 5581
Today's Topics:
1) SymX, Booting (no, not puking), Metal reviewers, and Survivor II!
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
2) Re: Re: Symphony X's new one: In Stock at Sentinel Steel!!!
by Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
3) Re: Metal-bashing
by JamesAhab@aol.com
4) Tape Trade2K
by JamesAhab@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5580
by CeaSerin@aol.com
6) Symphony X in Japanese
by Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5580
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
8) Symphony X in Engrish onry, prease.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
9) Re: Super Audio CDs
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
10) New Symphony X
by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
11) Re: SymX, Booting (no, not puking), Metal reviewers, and Survivor II!
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
12) RE: Symphony X in Japanese
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13) New to my area.
by Jason Gelnett <gelnetts@earthlink.net>
14) FW: [nightwish] HAPPY BIRTHDAY TARJA!
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
15) like, yo and stuff :)
by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:17:08 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: SymX, Booting (no, not puking), Metal reviewers, and Survivor II!
Message-ID: <20000816181708.D567@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-08-16 at 14:23 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com
<ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:17:56 EDT
> From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com
> Subject: Chicago Set List *SPOILERS*
Everyone:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put a spoiler warning IN THE BODY OF YOUR POST.
I missed it in the subject, paged down, and there it was. The end of
the last paragraph of this post happened to land right at the bottom
of my screen. I hit space, there were a few blank lines, and all of a
sudden, a set list. Blank lines aren't enough. *Please* leave about
25 to 30 blank lines, with a string something like "* * * SPOILERS * *
*" every four or five. Thanks.
---> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:39:04 +0100 > From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> > Subject: Re: Symphony X's new one: In Stock at Sentinel Steel!!! > > JamesAhab@aol.com wrote: > > Is everything in Japanese? Like the lyrics and such? > > Yes, although Russell Allen's Japanese accent does leave something to be > desired. I think they should have got a native Japanese speaker to sing on > the import version.
Let me get this straight. If you buy the Japanese version, the regular singer sings in Japanese, and if you buy the US version, the same guy sings in English? Dude, that's messed up. Reminds me of that one album DLR did in English and Spanish.
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> Date: 16 Aug 2000 12:51:51 -0000 > From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> > Subject: MiniDisk and other stuff > > Just a thought though: if I buy an SM58 and a minidisk recorder, and > point them at the middle of the stage, what sort of quality boot are > we looking at there? Am I wsating my dosh, or could this yield an > acceptable result?
How the hell do you plan to be inconspicuous pointing an SM58 at the band?
Besides that, MD is lossy. If you're booting to trade, spend the extra cash and get a DAT. (You're welcome, Adam.)
> If they're what I think they are, they're from > http://go.to/dtcovers. There's also a swing version of > UaGM (featuring Frank Sinatra on vocals) that's about 20
You, uh, realize that that's not really Frank Sinatra, right?
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:03:48 -0400 > From: "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net> > Subject: Re: DTS 5.1 Surround Sound (Long) > > I'll take this one. Look out 'cause you've touched my happy spot :-)
Dive! Dive! Thanks, Ivan. I feel all gross now.
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:45:01 -0600 > From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> > Subject: RBX6JM owners, take note. > > I know there's a couple of us here so I thought I'd offer this gem.
Are you talking about the John Myung Yamaha line? If so, please tell me what you think of it. I'm starting to think about getting another bass.
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:43:26 -0700 > From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> > Subject: Metal-bashing > > You have to wonder why they get the most biased people possible to write > stuff like this.
"Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity." They may not have any metal fans on the staff. They might all be freshly-minted college graduates, who don't even realize that Kid Rock's using a Metallica riff. They might even think that current Metallica is metal.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying we shouldn't all write to that newspaper and complain. I'm just saying that it may be laziness, rather than agression, that led to that article.
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:51:45 -0600 > From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> > Subject: Death sucks. > > Take this Russian sub for example? Has anyone really asked the question > as to whether the sub is really down there? Has anyone seen it? I bet > it's halfway to the Atlantic US seaboard right now with a payload of > nuclear warheads. :p
What *I* can't believe is that CBS hasn't picked up on this. Think about it:
"One hundred seven Russian sailors. Trapped on a nuclear submarine. At the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. Who will be the last one left? Tune in this fall for... Survivor II! Who will be voted off the submarine first? Vlad the commo officer? Pitr the weapons specialist? Perhaps Aleksandr the pilot. Tune in Tuesday at 9 to find out!"
Don't look at me in that tone of voice. You think no one at CBS has thought of this?
-d NP: echolyn/Cowboy Poems Free
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:08:26 -0400 From: Jax <jax@ytseradio.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Re: Symphony X's new one: In Stock at Sentinel Steel!!! Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000816190620.00a77910@mail.ytseradio.com>
At 20:38:38 8/16/00, JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:
>Is everything in Japanese? Like the lyrics and such? A friend of mine had a >copy of TIO that was all in Japanese. I assume it was an import. And I'd like >to be able to read the words.
Nope, it has the usual liner notes in English, with an added little booklet in Japanese.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:50:49 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Metal-bashing Message-ID: <9.9700f34.26cc90e9@aol.com>
>< A blurb from the Philadelphia Inquirer's Weekend section for 08/11/00:
"Metal Weekend In this, an accidental two-day gathering of heavy metal marauders whose best works are way behind them, it's only fair to say that these men are preaching to the long-ago converted and that we should be lucky it's all happening to someone else. Sure, Iron Maiden may still sing of a 'Brave New World' (Columbia), but the newness of the rough-hewn British band stopped in 1982 with its classic clatter of 'The Number of the Beast'. The Washington-state grown Queensryche took up where Iron Maiden left off. Both Anthrax and Megadeth looked primed in the mid-'80s to take over Metallica's thrash metal throne. But the groups seemed content with remaining the princes of speedmetal and never the kings. This leaves Motley Crue, who, despite having a new CD - 'New Tattoo' (Beyond) - and despite losing Tommy Lee, should still be arrested for continuing on after 1983's 'Shout at the Devil'. -- A.D. Amorosi" ><
That guy gave Britney Spears' first album 4-stars and said it was "good song-writing", so there ya go.
Im just glad they never promote DTs shows in the Inquirer. God knows what they'd say.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:00:13 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tape Trade2K Message-ID: <9f.97ff491.26cc931d@aol.com>
Did I miss something, or is this thing still on?
Thats basically all I have to say.
I'm just trying to make this e-mail longer so it's not a total waste of space.
Hey hey.
- jim
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:03:44 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5580 Message-ID: <7b.86451d0.26cca200@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/16/00 8:40:25 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< >> The "typical" >> DT fan is an educated, musical person who is probably a young >> professional or >> a young musician (in awe with the band's ability). >>
Oh my god, that's bullshit. I hate it when people try to group people and try to catagorize them. Kinda like racism, it's never correct. I don't care if the term "general" or "typical" i used. If you want an example of this just go to the Perpetual Motion Conference message board and read some of the postings. You will then see that the number of brainless morons greatly outweigh the educated musicians.
J. Lamm <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/CeaSerin">www.mp3.com/CeaSerin</A>
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Symphony X in Japanese Message-ID: <20000817024450.5044.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com>
Actually, I think Symphony X doing an all-Japanese album is pure genius! I mean, after all these years, English-speaking countries have been catered to while all of the other countries are forced to rock along to an album in a foreign language! I have no doubt that this move by Symphony X will be their best-selling overseas album by far and that it just might inspire other artists to get their act together and start writing albums in languages other than English. It's such bullshit the way one language is held above other languages. Ideally every band should have an album each in English, Spanish, Japanese, German, French and Italian (for our friend Ricardo). Every day the world is becoming more of a "global community" and it's about time that our music follows suit and who better to lead the way than the innovative Symphony X???
Thankfully the American version of the Japanese-sung "V" will include an insert in English so we can follow along with Russell. I was able to get this "American version" of the album with the English lyrics in the liners, and in the middle of the lyrics is apparently a story telling of all the characters in the album. It's in Japanese though. *Sigh*.
Where is my Japanese -> English dictionary when I need it???
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:25:11 -0600 From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5580 Message-ID: <B5C0E167.175%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
There is nothing cooler than DD 5.1 except for DD 6.1! Not that it will ever make it in a home theater setup as a standard. As for DTS, it is slowly getting more support on DVDs but those usually lack features due to the minimal compressing used to encode it. Plus only a trained ear, and total home theater sound buff can tell the difference between DTS and DD 5.1. Gimmie features!
As for applying this to audio: a couple of things are in the works. DVD audio.(probably never see the light of day) and something new. Dual Layer CD's, which might have been what was mentioned in an earlier thread. Sony and Philips are developing these dual layer write-able drives. Each CD holds 1.3 Gigs. Like the Dreamcast discs. This could be used to hold both audio formats for an audio CD. Who knows.
-c
> Also, Sony's offering on next-generation audio, Super-Audio-CD (SACD), is a high resolution audio format which is still 2-channel (obviously, not everyone believes multi-channel is the be-all, end-all for music reproduction in the home).
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:49:09 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Symphony X in Engrish onry, prease. Message-ID: <002f01c0080e$df937080$8b0d84d0@korg>
> world is becoming more of a "global community" and it's about time that > music follows suit and who better to lead the way than the innovative
If the world wants to become a "global community" then it better get off of its lazy ass and speak one language. :p It's kind of hard to have a community where people speak two different languages. Trust me, I live in one. -- KorgX3 would like to live in NYC. Land of 1000 languages and just as many fights per day because of it.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:03:06 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Super Audio CDs Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000816230203.00ab4330@pop.earthlink.net>
I did see my first one of these at Tower Records... Joe Satriani's Engines of Creation... I think it was around $22... I haven't seen the players yet though...
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 01:50:28 -0700 From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Symphony X Message-ID: <399BA754.6DD06B38@home.com>
ok guys. here it is. now im a huge DT fan right. but the new syphony x album is one of the rare gems that are great from track one to track done!! if you liked em before, you will now LOVE them! 10's all the way! from the vocals to Michael on the guitar sounding as legendary as ever! and that drum and base!! Aaarghhhhh!! wow.
..and im spent.
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:21:02 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SymX, Booting (no, not puking), Metal reviewers, and Survivor II! Message-ID: <399BAE7E.B1A65297@picsel.com>
Digital Man wrote: > > Yes, although Russell Allen's Japanese accent does leave something to be > > desired. I think they should have got a native Japanese speaker to sing on > > the import version. > > Let me get this straight. If you buy the Japanese version, the > regular singer sings in Japanese, and if you buy the US version, the > same guy sings in English? Dude, that's messed up. Reminds me of > that one album DLR did in English and Spanish.
Oh, for goodness' sake, I was joking!!!!
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:58:01 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Symphony X in Japanese Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC1E8A@ISDCRE00>
I think all of my Symphony X CD's have the Japanese INSERT in the case... By no means is the entire thing in Japanese. The main CD booklet is of course English, but it has a smaller one in Japanese in the middle that is separate. So don't get all excited about it :) It's been this way on their releases for a while now.
>> It's such bullshit the way one language is held above other languages
Disagree, totally. English is the language for the "global community".
>> Ideally every band should have an album each in English, Spanish, Japanese, German, French and Italian
Totally disagree. That is insane.
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Peterson [SMTP:razortag@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:02 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Symphony X in Japanese > > > Actually, I think Symphony X doing an all-Japanese album is pure genius! > I > mean, after all these years, English-speaking countries have been catered > to > while all of the other countries are forced to rock along to an album in a > foreign language! I have no doubt that this move by Symphony X will be > their > best-selling overseas album by far and that it just might inspire other > artists > to get their act together and start writing albums in languages other than > English. It's such bullshit the way one language is held above other > languages. Ideally every band should have an album each in English, > Spanish, > Japanese, German, French and Italian (for our friend Ricardo). Every day > the > world is becoming more of a "global community" and it's about time that > our > music follows suit and who better to lead the way than the innovative > Symphony > X??? > > Thankfully the American version of the Japanese-sung "V" will include an > insert > in English so we can follow along with Russell. I was able to get this > "American version" of the album with the English lyrics in the liners, and > in > the middle of the lyrics is apparently a story telling of all the > characters in > the album. It's in Japanese though. *Sigh*. > > Where is my Japanese -> English dictionary when I need it??? > > - Dr. Teeth > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:00:06 -0400 From: Jason Gelnett <gelnetts@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New to my area. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000817095456.00af2300@earthlink.net>
Hi all. I just relocated to the Clearwater / Tampa area and wanted to get some info. I live in Clearwater...are there any good local music shops? Places that carry boots and some Prog. stuff as well as the regular stuff. Are there are good local clubs to see some live music? If anyone can help that would be great. Just moved here from the San Francisco area, and I am missing my old CD shops (like Ameba in Berkeley). Thanks, Jason
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:30:05 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: FW: [nightwish] HAPPY BIRTHDAY TARJA! Message-ID: <000401c00868$66c54840$e60988cf@jm>
It's sweet angel from NightWish TARJA's birthday !
-----Original Message----- ]From: Esko Illi Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 5:36 AM To: Nightwish list Subject: [nightwish] HAPPY BIRTHDAY TARJA!
There's not much hope of Tarja reading this message but I know Jarmo reads this list so I'd like to wish Tarja a very happy 23rd birthday! I am not sure where Nightwish are now but I am sure Tarja will celebrate this day! Wish I could say Congratulations to her personally! But maybe I'll meet the band @ Tavastia next month. If someone else on this list is going to that show let me know! Considering that Nightwish pops out from backstage before each show there's a strong possiblity that I get to meet them!
I'll write some kind of review of the show to this list once the day comes.I can't wait!!!
Wishes, Risto
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: like, yo and stuff :) Message-ID: <14748.18646.516204.159138@optical.mindstorm.com>
Hey All ...
So, boring stuff first. Almost 1300 people on the list, though that will probably drop when I do bounces this weekend. MIME posts WILL NOT show up on the jam. Don't post MIME! I am actually going to go through the rejection list this weekend and send everyone who has tried to post MIME a message so that they know why they aren't getting through. I definately have seen a number of you doing it multiple times, I'm suprised you haven't asked me why they aren't going through. I know I owe a few people mails about stuff, hopefully I will get to that all this weekend too. If you need to get in touch with me send mail to skadz@dreamt.org NOT ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com.
I finally got to see Event (formerly Mystic Fishook) a few weeks ago. Wow, these guys really do kick ass and they pull the stuff on their disc off REALLY well live. Lots of stuff from their upcoming album, which sounds really nice (as does the new album ;) (as always, if you want to get on the Event mailing list, send mail to eventowner@dreamt.org). They were actually opening for Kings X, who were amazing as well :)
Anyone thought about making new Ytsejam shirts with the new address? Haven't had a new one in a bit and as far as I know, we have nothing with the new address.
Other than that, I seem to be back reading the jam again, be afraid :)
Skadz
-- Ryan Skadberg | "there's a space beside us Ytsejam Moderator | and there's miles between us skadz@dreamt.org | and all around us http://www.dreamt.org/ | grows this shade of gray" | _A Pleasant Shade of Gray_ - Fates Warning
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