YTSEJAM Digest 5591
Today's Topics:
1) Gregg Bissonette's Frankenstein
by "Kemal AKBAY" <kakbay@hotmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5590
by "xxx" <hipodilski@phreedom.org>
3) re: cd tree
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
4) Re: What Nightwish Sounds Like
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org>
5) Re: Gregg Bissonette
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?= <mikael.hagstrom@bracke.mail.telia.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5588
by David Baker <baker1958@yahoo.com>
7) Gregg's frankenstein
by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
8) Im back bitchesSPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
9) Re: Gregg Bissonette
by "Wojtek Pilat" <wpilat@hotmail.com>
10) Pull Me Under end lyics
by CeaSerin@aol.com
11) Re: Den Bosch DT show in October?
by "Wim en Mariska" <vanhorssen@crosswinds.net>
12) Re: Im back bitchesSPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
by JamesAhab@aol.com
13) Re: Pull Me Under end lyics
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
14) Fates Warning - Disconnected
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
15) Re: Fates Warning - Disconnected
by "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.rr.com>
16) Re: Fates Warning - Disconnected / Headphone quality
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
17) Re: Pull Me Under end lyics
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:32:07 GMT
From: "Kemal AKBAY" <kakbay@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Gregg Bissonette's Frankenstein
Message-ID: <F115zzTAqJX74tvRy5D00000f1d@hotmail.com>
I'm so pissed off about DT not coming over to Turkey and cancelling both
shows. That's ridiculous; why the hell do they say "confirmed" then??? Don't
you have respect to the fans!? These last minute changes just piss me off!
By the way, I'm sure that's nothing to do with the earthquakes; who gave you
that funny idea?
By the way that Gregg Bissonette song called Frankenstein is incorporated
from 12 rock drum grooves from 12 different classic songs; Gregg's
favorites. This should be the list, I guess:
1) Frankenstein (Edgar Winter Group) drums: Chuck Ruff
2) Walk This Way (Aerosmith) d:Joey Kramer
3) Honky Tonk Women (Rolling Stones) d:Charlie Watts
4) The End (The Beatles) d: Ringo Starr
5) We're an American Band (Grand Funk Railroad) d:Don Brewer
6) Tomorrow Never Knows (The Beatles) d: Ringo Starr
7) Hot For Teacher (Van Halen) d:Alex Van Halen
8) Rock And Roll (Led Zeppelin) d: John Bonham
9) Wipe Out (The Surfaris) d:Ron Wilson
10)Manic Depression (Jimi Hendrix) d: Mitch Mitchell
11) Rosanna (Toto) d:Jeff Porcaro
12 Come together (The Beatles) d:Ringo Starr
Have a nice day, Ytsejammers!
NP: Harem : Turkish Percusion Group
"Rhythm Colour"
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:45:20 -0700
From: "xxx" <hipodilski@phreedom.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5590
Message-ID: <000701c00faf$515089e0$38b05bd4@xxx>
> Can anybody fill in the xxxxxx's?
> Here is what I have so far:
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Aerosmith - Walk this way rhtyhm
> Honky Tonk Women (All Right Now too maybe?)
> Beatles - The End intro drum solo (from Abbey Road)
> xxxxxxx
> xxxxxxx
> xxxxxxx
> Led Zeppelin - Rock 'n Roll
> xxxxxxx
> xxxxxxx
> xxxxxxx VERY familiar sounding I can't recall damn it ;(
> ----------------------------------------
Oh, you silly guitarist... :)
Here is the complete list (taken from the August 98 issue of Modern
Drummer):
1. "Frankenstein" - Chuck Ruff (Edgar Winter Group)
2. "Walk This Way" - Joey Kramer (Aerosmith)
3. "Honky Tonk Women" - Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones)
4. "The End" - Ringo Starr (Beatles)
5. "We're An American Band" - Don Brewer (Grand Funk Railroad)
6. "Tomorrow Never Dies" - Ringo Starr (Beatles)
7. "Hot For Teacher" - Alex Van Halen (Van Halen)
8. "Rock'n'Roll" - John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
9. "Wipe Out" - Ron Wilson (The Surfaris)
10. "Manic Depression" - Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix)
11. "Rosanna" - Jeff Porcaro (Toto)
12. "Come Together" - Ringo Starr (Beatles)
The album is very cool, though...
OK, enouth with my yearly post, bye lads.
Victor
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:58:11 -0400
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: cd tree
Message-ID: <39A7CCF3.AC22F08@seacoast.com>
Amada wrote:
>>I'm guessing this would be the one the rest of us all got for free
through a CD tree?
would that tree be by the same guy who ran the first Roseland cd tree.
the one where no one answered emails,did anyone ever actually receive
theirs? yeah , that was a huge success. bahhhhhhhhh
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:03:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: What Nightwish Sounds Like
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008261600350.8775-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 MTeiper@aol.com wrote:
> << nightwish- who r they and what do they sound >>
> Well, I've never been very good at describing music, but to me they sound=20
> like Stratovarius but MUCH less predictable (IMO) with a lot better=20
> orchestration and symphonic qualities (also IMO). Additionally, they have a=
> mesmerizing female opera singer for a vocalist. Check this description out=20
> taken from melodicmetal.com:
<huge snip>
Hmmm, Nightwish DON'T sound like Strato at all IMO. And as for Tarja, I
think even the label 'gothic' is appropriate here sometimes (especially on
Oceanborn). Don't let this scare you off though. Imagine Rhapsody with a
darker touch and divine vocals.
Peter
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:50:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?= <mikael.hagstrom@bracke.mail.telia.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Gregg Bissonette Message-ID: <001101c00f75$6d1d4940$779d43c3@telia.com>
CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> wrote: =20 > NP: Gregg Bissonette - Gregg Bissonette >=20 > He collected all kinds of guitar heroes for his solo album, I guess > since he played for all of them they couldn't refuse him. :)
On his second release "Submarine" (2000) he've done the same, but with = different guitarists :) Mike Landau (my hero!), Vai, Satriani, Robben Ford, Gary Hoey, Frank = Gambale, Tim Pierce, etc etc!! He also took in another hero of mine on = organ and piano, David Garfield.=20
> I'm sure some jammers have this album. Now, there's this track called > "Frankenstein"!
Which is a cover, originally made by "Edgar Winter White Trash", a group = everyone here SHOULD have heard about!! "Frankenstein" is like the = ultimate progressive piece ever! The cover is quite cool as well :)
> LOL, this Gregg dude is funny. I dunno, at first you can't notice he's > doing it but in a while it becomes too obvious. :) What he actually = does > in the middle of the song is quoting drums of standard legendary rock > tunes. :))) Very cool. Now kill me, but I just can't recognize all, = but > I'm sure I know all those songs, I might even have them, those drum > rhtyhms seems too familiar but it's hard to get them like this. >=20 > Can anybody fill in the xxxxxx's?
He plays the groove from Toto's "Rosanna" in there somewhere (made by = one of Gregg's hero's Jeff Porcaro. , which also happens to be GOD in my = mind). I don't have the record with me right now since I'm not home. I = haven't actually taken the time to sort that drum solo out, I just found = it cool :)
Mikael Hagstr=F6m www.loslobotomys.com=20 http://come.to/past.to.present
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David Baker <baker1958@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5588 Message-ID: <20000826162756.21278.qmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com>
In reference to the song bytes on Greg Bissonette's "Frankenstein", I believe they are:
Walk This Way - Aerosmith Honky Tonk Woman - Rolling Stones InnaGaddaDaVida - Iron Butterfly We're An American Band - Grand Funk Hot For Teacher - Van Halen Rock And Roll - Led Zeppelin Wipe Out - Ventures Manic Depression - Jimi Hendrix Rosanna - Toto Come Together - Beatles
I guess sometimes it does pay to be an old fart....
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Gregg's frankenstein Message-ID: <20000826165930.16140.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com>
Here is the list of solo's Gregg did on Frankenstein. Walk This Way/Aerosmith Honky Tonk Woman/Rolling Stones The End/Beatles We're an American Band/Grand Funk Railroad Tommorrow Never Knows/Beatles Hot for Teacher/Van Halen Rock and Roll/Led Zepplin Wipeout Manic Depression/Jimi Hendrix Rossanna/Toto Come Together/Beatles I had some help from the Modern Drummer article with Gregg where he wrote out the licks from the solo and listed where they were from.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:07:20 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Im back bitchesSPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Message-ID: <20000826.130752.-20405.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Yo, well last night was incredible. Unbelievable, insane. yadda yadda yadda.
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Ok enough warning:
Set list from my memory: 8/25/00 New Orleans
Met Pt1 Overture 1928 Strange Deja Vu The Mirror/Part of Lie Another Day Guitar solo umm...Home i think Keyboard solo Erotomania Voices Spirit Carries On Learning to Live
ACOS=WOW!!! I never thought i would ever see this live, but it was fantastic. I am not sure if James was doing this everwhere, but we got a nice big "Please Don't Go!" hehehe the good ole days.
Note-didn't they have an album called Falling Into Infinty, and a song called Pull Me under, oh well, i was kinda lookin foward to Just Let me Breathe or Lines in the Sand but im not complaining.
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I saw Warrant BAr7 and 3 songs of Ratt the other night tooo. blah.
Kurt
"Shut the f*ck up. Don't make come down there and kick your f*cking ass" -James Labrie 4/16/97
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:59:09 CEST From: "Wojtek Pilat" <wpilat@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Gregg Bissonette Message-ID: <F161HhxIbI1lqP1UxJP000001ba@hotmail.com>
about "Frankenstein"
I have listened to the CD a long time ago but I remember that one of the grooves was Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher", I'm not sure tho...
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:00:29 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pull Me Under end lyics Message-ID: <98.9692cc9.26d95fbd@aol.com>
I just thought I'd bring this up. I'm sure many of you have heard the end to Pull Me Under and the words that are being sung right at the outro. Some of you probably dont' even know what those words are because they weren't in the CD booklet. I'm here to explain. James sings: "All that this too to solid flesh would melt"
and where did it come from? Well, it's a direct quote from Hamlet. The scene where he interupts his uncle and mother and has a moment to himself.
J. Lamm <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/CeaSerin">www.mp3.com/CeaSerin</A>
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:11:16 +0200 From: "Wim en Mariska" <vanhorssen@crosswinds.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Den Bosch DT show in October? Message-ID: <000701c00f89$0cb81260$170f86c2@h1z3s6>
Hi,
First post on this list, heard it mentioned quite a few times on Freaks, so I thought I'd check it out myself. Nice.
I found a page with directions to the Maaspoort Den Bosch, here's the link (also in english): http://www.movingaction.nl/maaspoort/index.html .
Hope it helps.
Bye for now,
Mariska (a.k.a. Lady Nina)
~~~Nina's pages at http://come.to/ladynina ~~~~~~
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:55:42 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Im back bitchesSPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Message-ID: <42.9f81692.26d96cae@aol.com>
>< Note-didn't they have an album called Falling Into Infinty, and a song called Pull Me under, oh well, i was kinda lookin foward to Just Let me Breathe or Lines in the Sand but im not complaining. ><
Well they played JLMB at the show I saw, and it's been in most of the setlists - excluding the ones where they've played all of SFaM - I've seen except this one. Maybe they were pressed for time.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Pull Me Under end lyics Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008261545530.55991-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 CeaSerin@aol.com wrote:
> CD booklet. I'm here to explain. James sings: > "All that this too > to solid flesh > would melt" > > and where did it come from? Well, it's a direct quote from Hamlet. > The scene where he interupts his uncle and mother and has a moment to > himself.
And actually, this information has been in the FAQ for years and years. :)
Also, it's "OH that this too, too solid flesh would melt," not "All that..." etc.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:17:50 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Fates Warning - Disconnected Message-ID: <39A833FD.DE0891EB@isd.net>
Greetings fellow Jamsters,
Speaking of Fates.. <grin> I've had "Disconnected" since it was released a month ago... I love the music, but the recording sucks! It's noisy, has WAY too many effects, and they destroyed much of the vocals using excessive compression. They even added reverb and delay to a fucking piano! There is never a moment of absolute silence. Nothing ever gets a chance to decay. A note just hangs in an effects loop until it's replaced by something else. YUK!
Give me the master tapes and about a month in a first rate studio and I could resurrect this recording and give it the breathing room it deserves. Sigh...
Has anybody else noticed these recording shortcomings?
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:38:46 -0400 From: "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.rr.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Fates Warning - Disconnected Message-ID: <003201c00fbf$2956d2e0$50c21c18@kez.mgfairfax.rr.com>
>Has anybody else noticed these recording shortcomings? > >-- >Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
Probably not, Al, since we're ALL listening on the equivalent of boom boxes, compared to you, remember? :)
Actually, I don't have it yet. Too many mixed reviews. I DO have the new Madsword, though, and I bet IT would sound good on that system of yours. Do you have it yet? Huh? Huh?
Go get it.
Madsword - The Global Village
Go get it.
That's all, Kez
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Fates Warning - Disconnected / Headphone quality Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008262245080.67780-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Kez wrote:
> >Has anybody else noticed these recording shortcomings? > > Probably not, Al, since we're ALL listening on the equivalent of boom > boxes, compared to you, remember? :)
Well, the things to which he referred aren't really things that require an audiophile system to notice; well, the part about it being noisy, maybe. I dunno; I'd like to think that I have a rather discerning ear when it comes to music, but then I've never listened to music on as high quality a system as Al's.
Hey Al, what do you think about (you're probably going to laugh at me for this) the Koss TD/65 headphones? I've had a pair of these for a few years and just bought a new pair because my old pair shit out on me. I have always thought that for a pair of headphones that cost me $35, they have superior sound quality. I think I'd like to eventually save up enough for those AKGs that Al recommended to me.
Can you provide me with those model numbers again, Al? I seem to remember two of them: One was about $95, and the other was about $105, but I'm not sure what the model #s were nor where I can find them online anymore.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:59:37 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Pull Me Under end lyics Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000826195557.00a9dbe0@pop.earthlink.net>
At 11:12 AM 8/26/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I just thought I'd bring this up. I'm sure many of you have heard the end to >Pull Me Under and the words that are being sung right at the outro. Some of >you probably dont' even know what those words are because they weren't in the >CD booklet. I'm here to explain.
Wow! I had never heard that before, man thanks for the info! That's awesome... but those guys are so talented why did they let the tape run out or break at the end of that song? It is so unprofessional. ;-)
BTW, maybe I should plug the Song Book again, which contains all the lyrics (including samples) for pretty much everything DT related. http://www.ivorygate.com/dt
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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