YTSEJAM Digest 5585
Today's Topics:
1) Progfest
by mildew@ucla.edu
2) Re: Spiral Architect, No Russian Sub Content
by Zack1183@aol.com
3) Re: phoenix show
by "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
4) Planet X Question.
by Billy920@webtv.net
5) Re: Planet X Question.
by JamesAhab@aol.com
6) Jordan Rudess Question...
by StolnTrst@aol.com
7) Planet X...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
8) unchained melody
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
9) football stuff?
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
10) FWD: Metallica: Master Of Puppets-parody
by Arash Ashouriha <progordie@gmx.de>
11) Stuff that rocks?
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
12) Re: Dream Theater in Phoenix...more SPOILERS than
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
13) Nightwish? DT-tourdates?
by "Simon Krogh" <flaeskesteg@hotmail.com>
14) Humor
by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
15) Re: Bruce Willis
by "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru>
16) Communists are people too
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
17) RE: Communists are people too
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
18) Re: Communists are people too
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
19) RE: Communists are people too
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5584
by SixStrgRzr@aol.com
21) Re: Communists are people too
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
22) Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
23) VCD
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:07:52 -0800
From: mildew@ucla.edu
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Progfest
Message-ID: <200008202216.PAA29001@panther.noc.ucla.edu>
I'm going. Who else is in?
http://www.progfest.com
~~Amanda
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:47:39 EDT
From: Zack1183@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Spiral Architect, No Russian Sub Content
Message-ID: <d0.a09ce40.26d1ba0b@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/20/00 5:38:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
>>Spiral Architect is THE CRAZIEST progressive metal I have EVER heard. These
guys are like the instrumental section to Metropolis pt.1 on crack. They
are so crazy, after 4 or 5 listens I STILL can't follow 95% of what they do.
This is truly thinking man's metal. It goes WAY beyond progressive. All
you hardcore progressive metal types would LOVE them. Check them out:<<
No way man. There is definately a limit. I heard a million shining reviews
like this, so I picked it up. I guess my ears aren't equipped to take all
this.
They don't play songs, it is just a bunch of notes. It isn't anything
interesting, just lots of... stuff. If you are looking for songs, don't buy
this. If you want something truely masturbatory, you might want to try it.
It's thinking man's metal all right, I think I will sell it. Anyone want to
buy a slightly used copy?
I really really tried to like it, too. Shame.
Bitchin cover art though.
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:49:28 -0400 From: "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: phoenix show Message-ID: <1FA4BD0DDD674D11DA6E00807CFD6BE9@charlie.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Umm yeah they also played Acid Rain from LTEII
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:06:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Billy920@webtv.net To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Planet X Question. Message-ID: <23918-39A06473-13160@storefull-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Greetings JAMmers I am usually late as hell buying alot of music I see recommended on this list, as a result I have only recently acquired Planet X's '99 self titled release. Now musically I like it very well, but I thought Derek Sherinian was involved with this band, but He is not listed in the album liner notes or the bands website. ( I just looked at the players section and briefly through the bio section) -- < www.planetxrocks.com > Have I made a mistake somehow? The sticker on the Platypus album has Derek listed as former Dream Theater/ Planet X. Anyone know where I went wrong? Oh well Just curious. I have been purchasing all the DT side projects and former member stuff like Chroma Key, and thought I was making a former member purchase with PX. BTW I have 2 LTE cds, 1 Mullmuzzler, 1 Platypus (Ice Cycles), 1 Transatlantic, 1 Chroma Key ( Dead Air for Radios) and then this Planet X. am I missing anything, besides the first Platypus and the latest Chroma Key? Oh well enough for now See you in the funny papers PEACE!!! Billy.
"To be once in doubt is once to be resolved." Othello (3.3.193-194)
np The London Philharmonic Orchestra plays the music of Pink Floyd--- Us and Them
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:20:56 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Planet X Question. Message-ID: <18.1417ece.26d1c1d8@aol.com>
>< I am usually late as hell buying alot of music I see recommended on this list, as a result I have only recently acquired Planet X's '99 self titled release. Now musically I like it very well, but I thought Derek Sherinian was involved with this band, but He is not listed in the album liner notes or the bands website. ( I just looked at the players section and briefly through the bio section) -- < www.planetxrocks.com > Have I made a mistake somehow? ><
You bought a CD of the *other* Planet X band, the Planet X that came before Derek's Planet X, who are trying to get him to drop the name Planet X because it's rightfully their's.
- jim
np: galactic cowboys: s/t/
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:45:09 EDT From: StolnTrst@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jordan Rudess Question... Message-ID: <3a.95fad17.26d1d595@aol.com>
Man, must it be said again? Jorden Rudess is God!! I consider myself to be a hard person to impress anymore after everything I've seen and heard, but I must admit, I was almost brought to tears by Jordan's solo, well the first part of it anyway! anyhow, my question is this... Does Anybody have any clue to what it was that he played at the very beginning of his solo? you know, the Very fast fast Classical stuff he was playing?? Or is it just something that he wrote? And, does anyone know where I might be able to find a Boot of that anywhere?? MP3 would be fine. Man , I am still in awe over what he played... thanks anyone who might be able to help
Jesse
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:46:14 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Planet X... Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000820174429.00a985a0@pop.earthlink.net>
Well, after looking at www.planetxrocks.com (which is not Derek's Planet X... see www.xplanetx.com), I decided to check out www.planetx.com for kicks... there is some funny stuff there, like the Kama Sutra of Pooh (http://www.planetx.com/pooh/) It is just plain wrong, but funny...
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:19:59 GMT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: unchained melody Message-ID: <F94nuNoRnxaEC3RTVSJ00001223@hotmail.com>
(that subject is based only on the fact that the TV behind me is on, showing a rerun of cheers, and that song is playing in the episode)
(anyway) (darnit, i forgot what.....never mind)
My local paper does their 'celebrity bits' column on page A3 on a daily basis, and while Dream Theater has yet to grace that space, it did have a blurb on Rush the other day, saying that they're about to start work on their 17th album (must be counting studio only) in Toronto, their first since 1996's Test for Echo (i guess Different Stages, being only three CDs long, didn't make that particular cut).
The second paragraph (!) mentioned something which I had absolutely no idea about, and I'd like to ask for more detail, should anyone have any.....something about singer bassist Geddy Lee's 1st solo album being due on October 24th, 2000.....like i said, anyone with a clue is advised to share.
Partha
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:28:49 GMT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: football stuff? Message-ID: <F214d4VGeKN2EETJeij00003cab@hotmail.com>
any fantasy leagues, or picks contests being set up with a ytsejam connection? too cheap to do anything involving money, but ready to go otherwise.....lemme know
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:56:38 +0200 (MEST) From: Arash Ashouriha <progordie@gmx.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FWD: Metallica: Master Of Puppets-parody Message-ID: <4154.966840998@www3.gmx.net>
Hi gang,
I've just found this : enjoy it. ************************************* Napster of Cashflow - by F.O.A.M. (Fans Of Antiestablishment Metallica)
(A "Master of Puppets" parody for those who don't get it.)
End of records play, royalties gone away Cash's our source of self-seduction Distributors pump with fear, sucking monies clear Leading to this techs construction So our agents plead more is all they need now we're dedicated to how we're raping you
Hey you bastards obey us Napster our law-yers concur obey us Napster Napster Napster of Cashflow, we don't hear cha-ching We aint getting dimes from the kids and the teens Soon you will see, that money is king Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster
Sixteen bucks a disc, most of it is shit Music fans are getting poorer Song monopoly, ritual usary Distribution, what a horror But we just dont care Cuz we cut our hair Now we're dedicated to how we're raping you
Hey you bastards obey us Napster our law-yers concur obey us Napster Napster Napster of Cashflow, we don't hear cha-ching We aint getting dimes from the kids and the teens Soon you will see, that money is king Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster
Napster, Napster, Where's the cashflow we've been after? Napster, Napster, We're getting only dimes! Laughter, Laughter, to the bank we used to laughter Laughter, Laughter, now it's only cries!
Mercedes worth all that, wealths a habit that We can rightly get used to So we join with Dre, another sell-out Yay! and to our fans we say f**k you.
Hey you bastards obey us Napster our law-yers concur obey us Napster Napster Napster of Cashflow, we don't hear cha-ching We aint getting dimes from the kids and the teens Soon you will see, that money is king Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster Just ban our songs, `cause our lawyers will scream Napster Napster **************************************************************
Arash
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:29:11 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Stuff that rocks? Message-ID: <39A0E857.E821D276@isd.net>
Pam Nazer wrote: >Al you Rock!!!!
Whoa! Four quotation marks... Is that good? :)
>DT of course was the greatest. So much intensitiy, emotion, energy.
AAAAAaaaaaHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... P O P . . . ________________
I'm still recovering. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:52:06 +0200 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Phoenix...more SPOILERS than Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030872E976@fileserver2>
> Metropolis Uno ! > Overture 1928 ! > Strange Deja Vu > Fatal Tragedy !! > Home > The Dance of Eternity !!!! > The Spirit Carries On > Mirror/Lie > Under a Glass Moon ! > Just Let Me Breathe > Another Day > Erotomania ! > Voices > A solo from "An Evening with Rudess and Petrucci" > Caught in A New Millennium > Learning to Live, Mon! !!
> Encore was A Change of Seasons ;) !!!!!!!!!
HOLY SHIT!! :P
Can't wait for the upcoming European leg of the tour!
- Mike
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:22:44 GMT From: "Simon Krogh" <flaeskesteg@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Nightwish? DT-tourdates? Message-ID: <F55oFOAmEaJswFCHOzy00002e75@hotmail.com>
I've heard so many good things about Nightwish that I have decided to give them a try. All I need now is to know which album to buy first...anyone? BTW Does anyone know if the european tour list on www.dreamtheater.net is a final list or if there are more dates to come? If not then why the hay aren't there any scandinavian dates???
Simon
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Humor Message-ID: <20000821120118.3524.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com>
Hey, I think people missunderstood the joke. If its the same one I'm thinking of (the survivor sub comment), it was making fun of tv producers who at this point would put anything on tv for ratings. Also, different people have different sences of humor just like musical tastes. I thought the joke was funny, however, I do understand the tragedy of it. Things like this happen all the time in the military, some more publicized than others. But I personally am tired of the overabundance of political correctness that is sweeping the world. If this keeps up, humor may have its own section in public places like smoking sections (ducks while waiting for the "you are such a bad person" remarks).
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:47:49 +0400 From: "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Bruce Willis Message-ID: <200008211256.FAA01404@fugazi.torchsong.com>
> Heh, actually, if I remember correctly (and it sounds to me like you're > talking about the movie Armageddon),
I don't know, I didn't see it. It's about asteroids or comets. In that movie BW arrives to the Russian space station & meets spaceman with ushanka (winter fur cap) on his head (which is funny as hell), who tries to repair the station with a spanner (which is even more funny).
> not only was he unable to save the space station, but it exploded. :)
So you say he didn't save it? Damn. Korg was wrong. BW is not God. Maybe local tribal idol or something.
> I agree with you that joking about the fallen sailors is in very poor taste, > but please don't take that as anything more than it is - bad taste.
I wasn't offended at all. Believe it or not but I understand people who consider it funny: hard childhood, no father, iron fists of their schoolmates, no chicks, "Pinnochio" as the only book in their life (now they read TV programmes & CD booklets) etc. I saw these clowns in my own school (it's the same all over the world). All I wanted to do is to show people who can think where some of these "jokes" may lead, where they actually lead.
> I remember when the American space shuttle exploded shortly after takeoff and > all the astronauts on board where vaporized instantly, the very next day > people were making jokes! Q: What kind of wood doesn't float? A: Natalie > Wood! Anyone remember that one? I can't believe that Americans are the only > people who show a dark, morbid, sick sense of humor.
They are not, of course. We had many "jokes" about Chernobyl atomic disaster. BTW there were some local "jokes" about Challenger that appear 2 or 3 days after the explosion.
Regards, Ivan kivanl@orc.ru
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:13:06 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Communists are people too Message-ID: <20000821121306.A26282@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-08-20 at 14:42 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:28:14 EDT > From: Cluck42@aol.com > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5582 > > It wasn't exactly Jesus playing a guitar solo Friday night at the > Riverside Theatre, but Dream Theater's John Petrucci -- whose long, curly > brown locks and well-grown beard bear an odd resemblance to a certain > Biblical figure -- definitely fulfilled the role of savior for a small but > rabid crowd of headbangers..... >>
What I want to know is how the band didn't realize that Skadz had snuck up on stage. And I guess he's been taking lessons from Wacky, if he could play a whole set without anyone realizing that it wasn't really Petrucci.
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> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:06:41 +0400 > From: "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru> > Subject: NDTC: Re: You know I had to be THAT guy > > I don't want to criticize this kind of humor (it's useless) though I > consider it degenerative. BUT posts like these (the initial one & > that "ROFL!! This is the best laugh I've had in a while...") lead to > the one & only thing here in Russia - the stable growing of > anti-American feelings. Trust me it rises here and people like you > only add fuel to the dangerous fire. Too bad you don't understand > it.
I understand it well enough to realize that the US and the former USSR clearly still don't trust each other. And that's not because of you and I even remotely as much as because of Putin and Clinton, or Nixon and Brezhnev, or Kennedy and Kruschev, or FDR and Stalin.
> Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he repaired > russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero. Maybe this time he'll > repair the sub or even revive dead sailors?
Please ask your government to send us Yakov Smirnoff. The only thing that makes me laugh harder then a boat full of dead sailors is some guy who may or may not be an immigrant playing dumb so that we Americans can laugh at that which we fear most: people that aren't like us.
> P.S. When respond, don't send your reply to the Jam since it's non-DT, > use private mail, please.
It's not DT related, but it's certainly Ytsejam related. We're a global list, and if we can't poke a little light-hearted fun at each other, something's terribly wrong.
-d NP: Fates Warning/Disconnected (God damn, this is one good album!)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:45:26 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Communists are people too Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC1EED@ISDCRE00>
I think a major issue here why they didn't want the United States involved is because they don't want the U.S. to find out what kind of Nuclear payload they have. Think about it. They must value their equipment and secrets more than human life. Sad.
> On 2000-08-20 at 14:42 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com > <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed: > > > Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:28:14 EDT > > From: Cluck42@aol.com > > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5582 > > > > It wasn't exactly Jesus playing a guitar solo Friday night at the > > Riverside Theatre, but Dream Theater's John Petrucci -- whose long, > curly > > brown locks and well-grown beard bear an odd resemblance to a certain > > Biblical figure -- definitely fulfilled the role of savior for a small > but > > rabid crowd of headbangers..... >> > > What I want to know is how the band didn't realize that Skadz had > snuck up on stage. And I guess he's been taking lessons from Wacky, > if he could play a whole set without anyone realizing that it wasn't > really Petrucci. > > --- > > > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:06:41 +0400 > > From: "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru> > > Subject: NDTC: Re: You know I had to be THAT guy > > > > I don't want to criticize this kind of humor (it's useless) though I > > consider it degenerative. BUT posts like these (the initial one & > > that "ROFL!! This is the best laugh I've had in a while...") lead to > > the one & only thing here in Russia - the stable growing of > > anti-American feelings. Trust me it rises here and people like you > > only add fuel to the dangerous fire. Too bad you don't understand > > it. > > I understand it well enough to realize that the US and the former USSR > clearly still don't trust each other. And that's not because of you > and I even remotely as much as because of Putin and Clinton, or Nixon > and Brezhnev, or Kennedy and Kruschev, or FDR and Stalin. > > > Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he > repaired > > russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero. Maybe this time > he'll > > repair the sub or even revive dead sailors? > > Please ask your government to send us Yakov Smirnoff. The only thing > that makes me laugh harder then a boat full of dead sailors is some > guy who may or may not be an immigrant playing dumb so that we > Americans can laugh at that which we fear most: people that aren't > like us. > > > P.S. When respond, don't send your reply to the Jam since it's non-DT, > > use private mail, please. > > It's not DT related, but it's certainly Ytsejam related. We're a > global list, and if we can't poke a little light-hearted fun at each > other, something's terribly wrong. > > -d > NP: Fates Warning/Disconnected (God damn, this is one good album!) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough > > d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates > cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed > http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:55:37 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Communists are people too Message-ID: <001401c00b99$0d072dd0$0201010a@chuck>
> they have. Think about it. They must value their equipment and > secrets more than human life. Sad.
It's one thing to joke about a subject and completely another to even pretend to understand someone else's reasoning for something. It's called security. Human life is a redundancy. The same people who preach compassion, kindness, and love are the same people who create the most cruel instruments of war to protect everything they claim to "love."
These are the same people who do everything to help one another but have no consideration for other lifeforms on the planet. I may be one of the rare few, but it seriously pisses the fuck out of me when I see people kill for sport, whether it's going on safari, squishing a spider, or aiming for that cat on the side of the road. The same people who laud "human" life have no respect for life in general. And if there's >any< nation on this planet who fits this shoe the best, it's us cocksucking Americans.
The Armenian guy sitting next to me in the meeting this morning looked fit to burst into a rage when the guy directing the meeting killed a spider that was minding its own business and everyone besides he, myself, and the Peruvian guy were hooting and hollering and cheering him on. Then they got all mad at him (the Armenian) when he pointed out their sadistic methods. And >we< paint Russians as heartless bastards? lol. Fuck you all. -- KorgX3 thinks humans are the most worthless lifeforms ont he planet.
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:16:45 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Communists are people too Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC1EF7@ISDCRE00>
Go see the new movie "Space Cowboys" and let me know if you still hold that opinion. That movie fits the Russian sub theme to a "T". They valued the nuclear missiles of that satellite more than human life itself.
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: Korg Ecksthrey [SMTP:korgx3@safelink.net] > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:13 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Communists are people too > > > > they have. Think about it. They must value their equipment and > > secrets more than human life. Sad. > > It's one thing to joke about a subject and completely another to even > pretend to understand someone else's reasoning for something. It's > called security. Human life is a redundancy. The same people who > preach compassion, kindness, and love are the same people who create the > most cruel instruments of war to protect everything they claim to > "love." > > These are the same people who do everything to help one another but have > no consideration for other lifeforms on the planet. I may be one of the > rare few, but it seriously pisses the fuck out of me when I see people > kill for sport, whether it's going on safari, squishing a spider, or > aiming for that cat on the side of the road. The same people who laud > "human" life have no respect for life in general. And if there's >any< > nation on this planet who fits this shoe the best, it's us cocksucking > Americans. > > The Armenian guy sitting next to me in the meeting this morning looked > fit to burst into a rage when the guy directing the meeting killed a > spider that was minding its own business and everyone besides he, > myself, and the Peruvian guy were hooting and hollering and cheering him > on. Then they got all mad at him (the Armenian) when he pointed out > their sadistic methods. And >we< paint Russians as heartless bastards? > lol. Fuck you all. > -- > KorgX3 thinks humans are the most worthless lifeforms ont he planet.
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:10:12 EDT From: SixStrgRzr@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5584 Message-ID: <8e.98db60f.26d2d894@aol.com>
Got in late last night from HOB L.A.....Whwat an AWESOME show....all of M2... made up for the screwing the fire marshall gave us last Feb....right at the intro to "spirit carries on" Portnoy leaned down over his kit with a lighter!!!...too cool...after the end James made note of being able to " finally being able to make it through that song"... the encores were great....closed the show with M1...incredible....we were 4 feet away from Petrucci the whole evening...the only thing i regret is having to go to work on tuesday, or id be there tonight too..... Spocks Beard....excellent high energy....bought their first cd on the way out.... awesome....just awesome.....thanks DT.....
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:14:53 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Communists are people too Message-ID: <001e01c00ba4$20c77ae0$0201010a@chuck>
> Go see the new movie "Space Cowboys" and let me know if you still hold > opinion. That movie fits the Russian sub theme to a "T". They > nuclear missiles of that satellite more than human life itself.
You base your belief system around a movie. That explains alot. :) I saw a movie once where a kid got stuck in a tube because he was greedy for chocolate milk. I still drink chocolate milk.
The secrets of any military weapon: submarine, tank, missile, etc. are in the interests of the national security. The national security consists of protecting millions of people lives. 118 men's lives are not worth that cost. You think it's cold and unfair, and yes it is. Go around the nation and tell people we don't need government. Their answer will be, "Yes we do!" Go around the nation and tell people we don't need a military and they'll say "Of course we do! We have to protect what is ours!" Then as soon as an incident the Kursk occurs everyone suddenly changes their tune. Sorry, people, but you get what you pay for.
Secrets, bullshit, alibis and all. The US is just as guilty of the fabrications as everyone else: Gulf War Syndrome. Everyone tries to deny it exists, but deep down, secretly, we all know it's a reality and we're all too damn ashamed to admit it. Most of us, anyway. It's the ones who aren't that are punished. That's sad. -- KorgX3 thinks there is nothing scarier to people than a tarnished reputation.
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:58:10 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000 Message-ID: <20000821155810.B26282@optical.mindstorm.com>
Hey, folks. Once again I apologize for letting things go for so long, but the Ytsejam Tape Trade is gearing up to get ready for the 2000 trade.
I read all the e-mail that everyone has sent me, and everyone's ideas are great. I want to be able to share ideas back and forth. To that end, I've set up a mailing list at eGroups, called YtseTapeTrade. Just go to egroups.com and sign up for the group called YtseTapeTrade, and we can all trade ideas back and forth about how to get this thing to be the best it can. I look forward to hearing from everyone.
New timeline:
Finalize categories and start parsing e-mail: September 12th. Deadline for e-mail: September 19th.
Oh, and the website is still at http://miracle.burningblue.net/tapetrade.
-d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:55:50 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: VCD Message-ID: <39A18946.981EDA0F@mol.com.mk>
Errr, yeah now I can SEE the picture on my PC, but no sound at all. :( I could played it with Windows Media Player. I feel like a moron ("hey, that's an old one, tell us something new") but I dunno what it is. Everything else audio is working, playing mp3s, CDs...
any other software for playing these things?
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