YTSEJAM digest 5584

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sun Aug 20 2000 - 17:40:30 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5584

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: San Diego Show ** SPOILER **
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5582
     by Cluck42@aol.com
      3) question
     by "Danny Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
      4) Re: question
     by "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
      5) NDTC: Re: You know I had to be THAT guy
     by "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru>
      6) Spiral Architect
     by "Ballwalkin' Mike" <mike@dirgesong.com>
      7) Canadian Tragedy
     by Steve Godbout <godbouts@videotron.ca>
      8) Re: Cool Original Music
     by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
      9) Re: Bruce Willis
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     10) Re: Bruce Willis
     by "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net>
     11) Nightwish/DT concert shirts
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
     12) Currency Converter
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
     13) Bruce Willis is the chieftan of cool.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     14) A B-Day and a Theater...
     by "Christopher Frick" <friction96@hotmail.com>
     15) Dream Theater in Phoenix...more SPOILERS than
     by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
     16) Sorry bout that!
     by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:00:33 -0700
    From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: San Diego Show ** SPOILER **
    Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000819165909.00a949a0@pop.earthlink.net>

    At 10:52 AM 8/19/00 -0700, you wrote:

    >This was my eighth DT show. The band hasn't been this animated and really
    >into the songs since the I&W tour IMO. Nice to see that. Thanks DT!
             I was there too... awesome show. And Spock's Beard was definitely
    kicking some butt too..

    ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
    "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
    >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
    >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
    >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:28:14 EDT
    From: Cluck42@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5582
    Message-ID: <68.69ac7c2.26d09c3e@aol.com>

    In a message dated 8/18/00 5:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << "Dream Time"
     
        It wasn't exactly Jesus playing a guitar solo Friday night at the
     Riverside Theatre, but Dream Theater's John Petrucci -- whose long, curly
     brown locks and well-grown beard bear an odd resemblance to a certain
     Biblical figure -- definitely fulfilled the role of savior for a small but
     rabid crowd of headbangers..... >>

    WOW! what an awesome article!!! this post definately describes dt in an
    excellent, and true way IMHO. hehe...and i never really thought that jp
    LOOKED like jesus. ;o) thanks for that post, it made the clucker very happy.
    rose
    cluck42@aol.com
    "A wrong note played timidly is a mistake. A wrong note played with
    authority is an interpretation."

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:24:02 -0700
    From: "Danny Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: question
    Message-ID: <OE17FKpRcTCi90gP8yJ00001253@hotmail.com>

    I was wondering what Dream Theater song is played when you click on Mike
    Portnoy's Monster kit... the lyrics are something like "and we all will
    survive" close to something like that.

    thanks a lot!

    Daniel

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:14:45 +0300
    From: "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: question
    Message-ID: <005a01c00a87$1a810660$74e126d4@pentium>

    That would be "We All Need Some Light" by TransAtlantic. You should
    definitely check them out, especially if you're into prog.

    -WT-
    NP: Tunnelvision - While the World Awaits
    Can't get enough of this album! http://www.tunnelvision.org

    -----Original Message-----
    ]From: Danny Mikkola <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
    >I was wondering what Dream Theater song is played when you click on Mike
    >Portnoy's Monster kit... the lyrics are something like "and we all will
    >survive" close to something like that.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:06:41 +0400
    From: "KIL" <kivanl@orc.ru>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: NDTC: Re: You know I had to be THAT guy
    Message-ID: <200008201021.DAA11647@fugazi.torchsong.com>

    >> Could we PLEASE not make jokes about the Russian sub thing? I don't know
    >> about you, but I think it's a pretty shitty way to go, and unlike some
    >> people, I don't think you can make an argument saying that they deserved it.

    > That being said, many people - myself included - deal with the real
    > world through the use of humor. I believe it was Dennis Miller (and
    > correct me if I'm wrong) who said "There's the real world, and there's
    > the joke world. The joke world can get pretty rough. Wear a cup."

    I don't want to criticize this kind of humor (it's useless) though I consider
    it degenerative.
    BUT posts like these (the initial one & that "ROFL!! This is the best laugh
    I've had in a while...") lead to the one & only thing here in Russia - the
    stable growing of anti-American feelings. Trust me it rises here and people
    like you only add fuel to the dangerous fire. Too bad you don't understand it.

    > I will also withstand the temptation to remind everyone that the Cold War
    > is over, and had the Russians given anyone else a clue as to the design
    > of their subs, maybe the Brits or even the US could have gone in and
    > rescued those guys.

    Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he repaired
    russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero. Maybe this time he'll
    repair the sub or even revive dead sailors?

    Ivan,
    kivanl@orc.ru

    P.S. When respond, don't send your reply to the Jam since it's non-DT,
    use private mail, please.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:57:57 -0700
    From: "Ballwalkin' Mike" <mike@dirgesong.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Spiral Architect
    Message-ID: <001501c00abf$6a1a1760$6398c540@oemcomputer>

    Spiral Architect is THE CRAZIEST progressive metal I have EVER heard. These
    guys are like the instrumental section to Metropolis pt.1 on crack. They
    are so crazy, after 4 or 5 listens I STILL can't follow 95% of what they do.
    This is truly thinking man's metal. It goes WAY beyond progressive. All
    you hardcore progressive metal types would LOVE them. Check them out:

    http://www.cdnow.com/switch/from=sr-702874/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=116
    5271

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:18:54 -0400
    From: Steve Godbout <godbouts@videotron.ca>
    To: YTSEJAM Mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Canadian Tragedy
    Message-ID: <399FDABE.9F750150@videotron.ca>

    Greetings Fellow FT Fanatics!

            Canadian Tragedy, our campaign to get Canadian promoters to wake up and
    smell the Ytsejam is now entering its last 6 days of activity. I have
    not polluted the mailing list with our stuff a lot so I'm taking this
    one last Opportunity to let you know about our efforts.

            I will not be giving you all the details of the thing. If you really
    are interested, you should follow the link in my .sig and read our news
    section. But, on the off chance that you are somebody who would actually
    go to a Canadian show, and have not had the chance of signing the online
    petition, you will be able to do so on our website and I urge you to do
    so NOW, before the petition closes down on August 25th. Scheduling
    constraints of OFB are telling me that complete versions of the
    petitions (Online, paper, stats etc...) should go out to promoters at
    the latest on August 28th.

            I must emphasize that some northern US states have been overlooked on
    both legs of this tour and that, if a Canadian tour does happen, some
    Canadian cities might just be the closest DT will come to you on this
    tour. As an added bonus, your US dollar is worth 1.5 its original value
    in Canada.

            Anyways, I'm done rambling here. If you want to help the cause, and
    would be willing to cross the border to see DT in all their glory, you
    now have 6 days left to sign the petition.

    Take care all, and hope to see you at a Canadian venue!

    Steve
     

    -- 
    Sign the online petition at: http://netkronik.qc.ca/dt/
    ----------------------------------------------------
    

    Steve Godbout, "Canadian Tragedy" effort Campaign for Dream Theater in Canada godbouts@videotron.ca

    "What is not nailed down is mine...

    "Whatever I can pry off is not nailed down."

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:47:20 +0200 From: "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Cool Original Music Message-ID: <01c00aad$2a4419e0$LocalHost@king>

    Happy b-day, man!

    Marko -----Original Message----- ]From: Ultraking@aol.com <Ultraking@aol.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Date: Wednesday, 16 August, 2000 19:38 Subject: Cool Original Music

    |2: Sunday the 20th is my birthday! Just had to get that out! |Thanks for giving me a piece of your valuable time! |Ultraking

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:11:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Bruce Willis Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008201009490.68119-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, KIL wrote:

    > Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he > repaired russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero. Maybe > this time he'll repair the sub or even revive dead sailors?

    Heh, actually, if I remember correctly (and it sounds to me like you're talking about the movie Armageddon), not only was he unable to save the space station, but it exploded. :)

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:07:37 -0400 From: "Ivan Navarro" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Bruce Willis Message-ID: <001c01c00ab8$6145d2c0$93a0b2d0@inavarro>

    Actually, the Russian cosmonaut was the one who saved the Americans - twice! First he unfroze the gravity rocket on the rover vehicle saving the American protagonist's ass (Ben Affleck), then he fixed the American super shuttle by beating on some gear with a large wrench enabling the engines to fire and everyone to get away safely :-)

    BTW Ivan your nick "KIL" is strangely ironic to me ;-)

    I agree with you that joking about the fallen sailors is in very poor taste, but please don't take that as anything more than it is - bad taste. I remember when the American space shuttle exploded shortly after takeoff and all the astronauts on board where vaporized instantly, the very next day people were making jokes! Q: What kind of wood doesn't float? A: Natalie Wood! Anyone remember that one? I can't believe that Americans are the only people who show a dark, morbid, sick sense of humor.

    I-Man

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Andrew Coutermarsh" <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Bruce Willis

    > > On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, KIL wrote: > > > Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he > > repaired russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero. Maybe > > this time he'll repair the sub or even revive dead sailors? > > Heh, actually, if I remember correctly (and it sounds to me like you're > talking about the movie Armageddon), not only was he unable to save the > space station, but it exploded. :)

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:50:58 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: Nightwish/DT concert shirts Message-ID: <001e01c00abe$6ea5d680$eb3c88cf@jm>

    http://www.emp.de

    Man this web site has some great prices and a good selection of concert shirts and hats and posters.. Click on one of the first pictures you see when you get there then go up to the "Search" box and type in some band names. They offer hats and posters and VHS of many bands I searched on.

    Good deals on Dream Theater merchandise and NightWish merchandise topped my list. Mainly NightWish since I can't see them tour yet (USA).

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:52:48 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: Currency Converter Message-ID: <002001c00abe$b08d7b20$eb3c88cf@jm>

    http://travelfinder.com/currency.html

    There is a good currency converter web page.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:54:49 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bruce Willis is the chieftan of cool. Message-ID: <002501c00acf$bec2a830$5d0d84d0@korg>

    > Please ask your government to send us Bruce Willis. I was told he > repaired russian space-ship in some movie. He is a real hero.

    Tell me about it. Bruce is something else. He occasionally lives in Hailey, Idaho which it only about 60 miles north of me, but one day I got a flat tire on the way to work and he just showed up out of nowhere and used his magical typhoon breath to not only repair my tire, but fly me to work so I wouldn't be late. He's a great dude. :)

    And didn't you know? He took off swimming from North Carolina this morning saying he was heading to the Berents Sea. You should expect him there last weekend. Before you know it, the sub had never sank. -- KorgX3 thinks Bruce Willis is God or something.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:26:21 CDT From: "Christopher Frick" <friction96@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: A B-Day and a Theater... Message-ID: <F186RKaa9wrSqHS0hgw00005275@hotmail.com>

    Hello all:

    First of all, Happy B-Day to Ultraking!

    Second of all, I don't know if there are any fellow Kansans on this list, but the Hays News today had an article about a theater in Russell that had been shut down, but is now being reopened. The name? Dream Theater, of course! In case you cared, now you know.

    Progressive rock/metal has a very interesting effect on the mind...

    Laytr,

    Friction Founder, ASMHA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:19:56 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, eckie@asu.edu Subject: Dream Theater in Phoenix...more SPOILERS than Message-ID: <39A03D6C.1921195A@imap1.asu.edu>

    A nuclear sub with an empty gas gauge.

    SPOILER SPOILER LA LA LA LA LA

    I won't bore everybody to death with the details, so I'll make it simple, sweet, and short, and easy for D-Man to ignore :)

    HEY! I SAID SPOILER GODDAMN IT!

    Web theater was right in downtown Phoenix, next to the beautiful Arizona Center on Van Buren. The exterior was a bright pink Greek revival, but the paint looked new, so hopes were high that it wasn't another Mason Jar (7' high ceiling, no lights, and a band within arm's length). Thankfully, it wasn't, and the seats were taken out of the auditorium so everybody with a General Admission ticket was given just that...free reign of wherever they wanted to stand.

    Then Spock's Beard came on. Earlier in the year, I had downloaded an old mp3 or two of these guys, and I quickly judged them to be "tight musicians, but a band I couldn't get into." Maaaaaaaaaaan was I wrong. The whole band came out with a positively super charged energy and BLEW ME AWAY! I'm definitely checking out their album catalogue :)

    A MUCH much much much much much much much MUCH better touring band than Full on the Mouth! Spock's rules! Anybody who can play a keyboard by bashing their head against the keys (Ryo) is awesome in my books ;)

    HEY! WHEN I TYPE "SPOILER" I FRICKIN' MEAN IT, BUDDY!

    After the stage monkeys were done setting up the stage, Dream Theater jumped out of the side curtains and the whole building went nuts. There were some completely psychotic fans, standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. Metropolis 1 starts up and these guys are jumping up and down and screaming at each other like a bunch of cavemen who figured out what fire was. It reminded me of myself when I first saw DT :) *sniff* Aw, the good times, the good times.

    This show was even better than the last two I saw...by far! The whole band was tight, I think Spock's energetic stage presence rubbed off on DT because they were all over the place! Petrucci strutted down to the left side of the stage, ran to the right side, cut down the middle, and made me cry like the little bitch guitarist I am. Myung was scarier than ever...I think he's been strength training his fingers or putting them on a diet of cocain-laced creatine because...well...dammit. The security was so tight I regret not owning a handheld camcorder and recording it all :)

    HEY! LOOK BEHIND YOU! IT'S A SPOILER!

    Okay, here's what I remember of the set list...(the security guy at the stage said we weren't allowed to get anything left on the stage, not even the setlist...a real shame too, I was going to go up there and grab Petrucci's stack) So here goes a set list off the top of my head, forgive me if it turns out that I forgot anything and it's out of order. It was a 2.5 hour set for god's sakes :)

    Metropolis Uno Overture 1928 Strange Deja Vu Fatal Tragedy Home The Dance of Eternity The Spirit Carries On Mirror/Lie Under a Glass Moon Just Let Me Breathe Another Day Erotomania Voices A solo from "An Evening with Rudess and Petrucci" Caught in A New Millennium Learning to Live, Mon!

    Of course, there were a few muso wanderings (thankfully...who's gonna bitch about Dream Theater improvising? :) ) They did a lot of weird shit to their songs, but it was very enjoyable and very funny. Brush your teeth before you go to the show, Portnoy's gonna be taking a picture of the crowd right in the middle of the show :)

    HEY! DID I SAY SPILLER! NO! I TYPED ---SPOILERS--- SOLDIER!!!

    Encore was A Change of Seasons ;)

    Whoops, maybe it wasn't such a short email after all. Sorry, Merlo. :)

    ~Eckie's only complaint is that there is NO way Pantera is going to measure up to this quality of a show in a couple weeks...it's going to be hard to go :)

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:33:55 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Sorry bout that! Message-ID: <39A040B3.D2439E36@imap1.asu.edu>

    I don't know what the hell happened with that last message, I usually have my mail browser on a tight leash!

    If this message gets double posted to the jam, I'm throwing my box out of my window!

    ~Eckie's sorry. No, really, he is :)

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