YTSEJAM Digest 5715
Today's Topics:
1) Re: limited Savatage knowledge....
by MTeiper@aol.com
2) Re: savajosh
by MTeiper@aol.com
3) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
by MTeiper@aol.com
4) Cheap DVD Players
by Pat Griffin <ytse@gabbo.net>
5) Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net>
6) Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
7) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
9) Tiger surprise at the christmas dragon ?
by "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
11) Spam
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <webmaster@pr-roadracing.com>
13) Everon
by Alexandro Talamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
14) Re: Cheap DVD Players
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
15) Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
16) tage
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
17) gobble gobble
by Zartan4@cs.com
18) Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
19) RE: Spam
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
20) dvd player cost
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
21) If you play bass, or dig Tony Levin, READ THIS!!!
by OPeCKiE Productions <emoeglin@wezl.org>
22) Infinity Minus One
by Denis Lanza <dlanza@hessel.com>
23) Infinity Minus One
by "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net>
24) RE: dvd player cost
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
25) Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
26) Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:57:18 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: limited Savatage knowledge....
Message-ID: <52.5266fa8.277bf7fe@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/27/2000 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< As far as i can remember the singer on edge of thorns is Zak Stevens...
you can get The wake of magellan and i think you will like it a lot!!
>>
Yes, I can 100% confirm that Zak is the singer on EoT. You really can't go
wrong with any of the Zak albums: Edge Of Thorns, Handful Of Rain (probably
my least fave out of the 4, but still great!), Dead Winter Dead, or The Wake
Of Magellan.
Hope this helps a bit... Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:59:52 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: savajosh
Message-ID: <fc.3e3dd9.277bf898@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/27/2000 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< My history w/savatage:
*BIG SNIP*
>>
Josh, just wanted to let you know that was one of the funnier posts I've seen
in a while. Awesome! :-)
- Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:01:45 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
Message-ID: <bc.e412cf0.277bf909@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/27/2000 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< probably the same source as fw.com -- which is not really an official
site, but a fan site. The only official site is the page or so listed at
metalblade.com. >>
No kidding? FatesWarning.com is not the official band site? Sorry 'bout
that, I thought it was. My bad.
- Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:25:18 -0800
From: Pat Griffin <ytse@gabbo.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Cheap DVD Players
Message-ID: <200012280325.TAA01861@kau.dreamhost.com>
Someone asked on the last jam about the price of DVD players, since he apparently only wants it for the DT DVD...
First of all, let me just plug DVD... if you are into movies and home theater, DVD is the shit. I got into less than a year ago, and I already have over 150 movies on DVD. The picture quality is phenominal, even on our decade old 25" TV, and with the right stereo the sound will make you never want to rent VHS again. I could go on, but I won't. There are plenty of people who will back me up.
Anyway, if you are looking for the cheapest solution, get a DVD-ROM drive. You can pick them up online or in stores from about $50-90 for a 6x to 10x drive. If you have a reasonable video card (8MB+ 3D card such as ATI Rage, nVidia TNT or GeForce, 3DFX, etc) you should be able to play back DVDs using just the drive. If your video card isn't up to snuff, for a few bucks more you can probably find a DVD kit from someone like Creative that will include a hardware MPEG playback card to handle the video processing for you.
Your next cheapest solution is getting a crappy DVD player in the neighborhood of $150. Sampo (who??) makes one, and there are a couple of other no-name and generic brands in that price range. Don't expect anything but the basic playback.
If you have more to spend and you have or hope to have a home theater system, then do yourself a favor and invest in a good player. You don't want to spend $150 now only to ditch it in half a year for a better player. You have a couple of months until the DT DVD is released, and you don't have to get it the day it comes out (HA! Like anyone on this list is going to be sitting at home that day), so save up your money in the meantime and get yourself a player you will be happy with. $400 should get you a good single disc player. I highly recommend Sony... they have a ton of features, and their players are pretty high quality. For a bit more you should be able to pick up a good 5 disc changer, and if you are really ambitious, you can double the price and get yourself a 200 or 300 disc player (if you need help justifying a 300 disc DVD player, remember: it plays audio CDs too).
I have recently adopted an eletronics philosophy which basically says, "don't spend money on intermediate products." I have a 19" TV. I want a 56" widescreen HDTV. Those are about $7k. I *could* spend about $1,500 on a nice big screen TV, but I won't. I'm going to save that money and live with the 19" until I make the leap to the TV I *really* want. That is what I recommend here as well. Don't buy a cheapie $150 player now when you could wait a couple of months and get a nice $400 one.
My final recommendation is that if you don't have DVD, find a friend who does. Go over to his house and ask him to put in some reference quality examples. Watch and drool. Then you will think twice about buying Sampo. :)
If you have any specific questions, email me privately. If you have any questions that you think the list could benefit from, post and I'll keep an eye out.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ Pat Griffin ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ The Gabbo Network ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ http://www.gabbo.net/ ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:37:59 -0800
From: Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <3A4AB597.35A70C1C@cafe-pierrot.net>
Damon, stop playing the victim. We all know you're fucking blind; you
tell us just about every fucking post. Put it in your signature or something.
-Matt
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"I like to go to art museums and name the untitled paintings...
'Boy With Pail'... 'Kitten On Fire'..." --Steven Wright
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:46:45 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001227224501.009f5510@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
OK, dooshbag. Shows what you know. I almost never post here. Some people
may not know, and so what? So much for making a comeback. IN fact, just to
prove you wrong, my original request said nothing of my blindness in it,
and I have made several posts in months that had nothing to do with my
blindness. I am explaining the situation for the people who don't know and
who tell me to just buy the DVD. That's like telling a deaf person to buy a
CD player for God's sake. So, stop wasting everybody's time with your lame
posts that have nothing to do with anything, except for you to see your name.
At 10:45 PM 12/27/2000, you wrote:
>Damon, stop playing the victim. We all know you're fucking blind; you
>tell us just about every fucking post. Put it in your signature or something.
>
>
>-Matt
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I like to go to art museums and name the untitled paintings...
> 'Boy With Pail'... 'Kitten On Fire'..." --Steven Wright
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:25:07 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20001227201925.020338d0@mail.phoenixdsl.com>
At 06:13 PM 12/27/00 -0800, you wrote:
>In a message dated 12/27/2000 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
>
><< probably the same source as fw.com -- which is not really an official
> site, but a fan site. The only official site is the page or so listed at
> metalblade.com. >>
>
>No kidding? FatesWarning.com is not the official band site? Sorry 'bout
>that, I thought it was. My bad.
It's no biggie really... just wanted to point out that stuff
mentioned on that site isn't really official. Although I know the webmaster
is a responsible guy and pretty much has the same Metal Blade contacts as
me so he only posts info that's correct. He was just able to register
fw.com before metal blade could (if they even thought about doing it at all).
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
"Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
>>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
>>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
>>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:51:26 -0800
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
Message-ID: <B67014DE.1451%schansen@cts.com>
Cloak thusly spake:
> a certain Boston-
> based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I
> promise him sexual favors
/me cringes at the thought and is glad said person is not switching to the
other side! :p
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:05:21 +0100
From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Tiger surprise at the christmas dragon ?
Message-ID: <032901c07094$29554a20$3cff9f0a@pc60>
Hi Jammers :
about the movie "crouching tiger, hidden dragon"
I saw that film a few months ago and found it amazing ...
a breath of fresh air !
I particularly liked the way that all seemed to be in a dream, my dreams are exactly like that .... cooool !
See ye,
FrancoIrishCycoDreamer
PS : how do I play the Christmas surprise ??!!
Do I not have the codecs or what ??!!
Shit; and your all making me drool over what you all think of it !!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 01:43:27 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
Message-ID: <20001228.014442.-19681.3.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
<There are people who have it at Roseland ("Please don't go!!!"), but I
would wager that none of them are willing to give it up (a certain
Boston-
based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I
promise him sexual favors) since it's without a doubt going on the DVD.
Too bad, too; I REALLY want a boot of that song. :)>
there are audience boots of :
Cinncy
Washigton DC
Phoenix
and
Oakdale
The phoenix boot was on napster for a while, and that is probably where
it is.
There is a remastered version of that show coming out 4 sale : (stictly
cost, no profit at all) www.spacedye-records.com I believe. I know the
guy real well he is a super honest guy. Plus there is a chance of a
bonus track that I miay have hed a hand in, but you will have to order
it. hehehe
Savatage-I love all the cd's ecept i don't have fight for the rock and
probably never will. The band went from :
Death metal
pop metal
melodic metal (streets)
pop type metal again (see all i bleed)
Heavy prog
Rock/opera type
great change. I guess I label em as progressive. Any band that can
progress from songs like Holocaust and Scream murder to the Wake of
Magellan is great. But wait only 1 guy that did holocost is still in the
band so I dunno.
Someone once described Savatage as "not really a band, but an idea"
I liked that. All the crap with Criss, and all thew new mebers keeps it
intresting.
On the new cd al played 2 solos i think (maybe more) so he will appear on
that, and the new singer is not there at all. What Zak had begun to
record Jon redid.
feb will be a great month:
Sava/ fates tour (fingers crossed)
Dt dvd
Sava album
sava dvd
mullmuzzler 2
Some other stuff too.
Im done
Kurt
NP-Chris and Kevin excellent adventure.
I know 2 people that have the roseland show and actually a 3rd guy who
has it from one of those 2 guys but no go. Andrew what if we offer em a
threesome or some kinda circle jerk to get it.
ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger
Trade page-www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
"So do me a favor...f*ck off"-James Labrie 11-18-94 Houston
"Shut the f*ck up. Ill come down there and kick yer f*ckin ass"
-James Labrie 4/16/97 Holland
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 06:49:23 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Spam
Message-ID: <OE15lIeN8RJnl3Xemb200003cfb@hotmail.com>
WTF???? NO SPAM IN 4 DAYS???? WOW.
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:46:26 -0500
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <webmaster@pr-roadracing.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5714
Message-ID: <3A4B3622.EEE18EF1@pr-roadracing.com>
Kurt M Hampton wrote:
> feb will be a great month:
>
> Sava/ fates tour (fingers crossed)
> Dt dvd
> Sava album
> sava dvd
> mullmuzzler 2
What does this sava dvd contain?! I didnt know about this!!!
Carlos A. Alfaro
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:41:13 -0200
From: Alexandro Talamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Everon
Message-ID: <9AD26275A486D4118BB30050DABFD26F674CCB@CORREIO>
Hello,
Just wanted to know if anyone on the list heard or knows a band called
EVERON. A freind of mine told me very well about them, mentioning they sound
between Dream Theater and Rush. Is he correct??
Alex
Curitiba, Brazil
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:13:30 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Cheap DVD Players
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20001228070731.00a225c0@mail.phoenixdsl.com>
At 07:34 PM 12/27/00 -0800, you wrote:
>First of all, let me just plug DVD... if you are into movies and home
>theater, DVD is the shit.
I'll have to second Pat's comments here... home theater is highly
addictive... proceed with caution (especially to for wallet). ;-)
If you want to get a good DVD player for cheap, check out this
Panasonic player (after all the rebates and stuff it is about $129):
http://www.ivorygate.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000036.html
Also, a great resource for tons of home theater info head to:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com
I have recently adopted an eletronics philosophy which basically says,
"don't spend money on intermediate products." I have a 19" TV. I want a
56" widescreen HDTV. Those are about $7k. I *could* spend about $1,500 on
a nice big screen TV, but I won't.
I know what you mean... I have a 27" TV, and am currently eyeing
some of the big screen units... Not so sure how long it'll take HDTV to
take off here in the US, so might as well wait (the TVs will drop in price
quite a bit by then anyway). Although, Costco has a 56" (I think) Toshiba
for $1149... hmmmm.... ;-)
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
"Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
>>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
>>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
>>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:03:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012281100180.92657-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote:
> OK, dooshbag. Shows what you know. I almost never post here. Some
> people may not know, and so what? So much for making a comeback. IN
> fact, just to prove you wrong, my original request said nothing of my
> blindness in it, and I have made several posts in months that had
> nothing to do with my blindness. I am explaining the situation for the
> people who don't know and who tell me to just buy the DVD. That's like
> telling a deaf person to buy a CD player for God's sake. So, stop
> wasting everybody's time with your lame posts that have nothing to do
> with anything, except for you to see your name.
Just for the record, Damon, I wasn't telling you to go buy the DVD. I
know you're blind, and I know how stupid it would be to buy something you
couldn't use. :) What I WAS saying, however, is that regardless of your
position, there probably won't be many people who would be willing to help
you out, merely for the problems with copyright and the fact that the DVD
is going to have ACoS on it.
I suggest waiting a bit for someone you know to buy the DVD, split the
cost with him (or something) and have him record the audio to CD for
you. Or perhaps if you contact Bogie, he'd be willing to make an
exception for your... individual... drawbacks.
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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If Helen Keller were psychic, would we say that
she had a fourth sense?
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:07:37 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: tage
Message-ID: <000a01c070e8$4dcce0d0$574b010a@winstar.com>
That's strange a lot of you thinks or used to think Streets sucks(ed).
Streets was my first 'tage and I loved it and still do. I bought each
subsequent cd and loved them all. I also slowly bought up the back
catalog and liked that too, but not as much as from Streets forward.
I even bought Fight for the Rock, even though I heard it sucked and it did.
About the counterpoint thing, it was great at first, but after 3 albums,
I think it's getting kind of old and repetative. Also, some of their
meledies seem somewhat recycled on Wake of Magellan. I'm hoping for
a fresh, new, kick-ass Tage this year!
trevor
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:30:51 EST
From: Zartan4@cs.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: gobble gobble
Message-ID: <28.f227f8b.277cc4bb@cs.com>
<< That's one of the funniest "DT Content" messages I've ever seen.......
classic !
JM
>>
hey, thanks JM! im glad i could amuse. my obsession with metropolis part 2 (i
almost forgot the name!) has been stymied by the aqcuisition of a bach CD my
brother gave me for christmas. he described it as "the bombdigady" and he was
right. ive listened to it about fifty times already. by the way, its the
brandenberg concertos 4,5 and some other stuff. i plan to get some more of
this german guys stuff. hes pretty good. i was a bit miffed however because
there were no drums on the cd and no band pictures in the booklet- just some
commentary about some classical music junk. out!
zartan
ps: yeah, mike, i AM a master of disguise but my cobra (whatever mercenary
position i held with them) days are long gone. i just graduated with a BS in
nursing and searching for jobs in the great western states. anyone live in
colorado or arizona? send me some email if you know anything about the state
of nursing there. thanks.
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:07:25 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001228120626.009edb50@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Andrew, I am not against buying anything. I probably would split the cost.
I have a friend with a dVD player and I could probably hold him at
gunpoint. I just wanted to know if there were any other mp3 files available
other than the phoenix one I saw on Napster. Besides, that file is huge,
and even with a cable modem, chances are I am timing out or being cut off
before it finishes. And the sound quality is painful.
At 11:10 AM 12/28/2000, you wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote:
>
> > OK, dooshbag. Shows what you know. I almost never post here. Some
> > people may not know, and so what? So much for making a comeback. IN
> > fact, just to prove you wrong, my original request said nothing of my
> > blindness in it, and I have made several posts in months that had
> > nothing to do with my blindness. I am explaining the situation for the
> > people who don't know and who tell me to just buy the DVD. That's like
> > telling a deaf person to buy a CD player for God's sake. So, stop
> > wasting everybody's time with your lame posts that have nothing to do
> > with anything, except for you to see your name.
>
>Just for the record, Damon, I wasn't telling you to go buy the DVD. I
>know you're blind, and I know how stupid it would be to buy something you
>couldn't use. :) What I WAS saying, however, is that regardless of your
>position, there probably won't be many people who would be willing to help
>you out, merely for the problems with copyright and the fact that the DVD
>is going to have ACoS on it.
>
>I suggest waiting a bit for someone you know to buy the DVD, split the
>cost with him (or something) and have him record the audio to CD for
>you. Or perhaps if you contact Bogie, he'd be willing to make an
>exception for your... individual... drawbacks.
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Andrew Coutermarsh
>a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
>http://cout.dhs.org/
>Cloak on IRC
>ICQ: 2513441
>-------------------------------------------------
>If Helen Keller were psychic, would we say that
>she had a fourth sense?
>-------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:35:33 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Spam
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1101@ISDCRE00>
awwwwwww you ruined it! :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Navarro [SMTP:gan_andre@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:05 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Spam
>
>
> WTF???? NO SPAM IN 4 DAYS???? WOW.
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:43:59 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: dvd player cost
Message-ID: <3A4B89EF.26D55E4C@optonline.com>
>How much can DVD player cost, without speakers, ... just the player?
Screw that, get a DVD-ROM for your computer. It plays cd-roms, so you
can toss your cd-rom player if there's no room. And it plays regular
DVD's, so if you're only going to get the occasional movie DVD you can
watch it on your computer screen or ouput it to your TV. All of this
would still be cheaper than a console type regular DVD player. Then when
the recordable DVD machines are cheap enough, get that in a console
version for the tv, and you'll have yourself a sweet little pirating
setup. :0
Also, the PS2 plays DVD's.
-josh
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:31:27 -0500
From: OPeCKiE Productions <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: If you play bass, or dig Tony Levin, READ THIS!!!
Message-ID: <3A4B950F.4FF0901F@wezl.org>
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This is funny as hell!!! Check it out
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<p align="center"><font size="+4" color="ffcc99">The Bassist </font><br>
<b><font size="+1">A Biblico-Musical Parable<br>
by Tony Levin </font></b></p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>I</b></font>n the beginning there was a
bass. It was a Fender, probably a Precision, but it could have been a Jazz -
nobody knows. Anyway, it was very old... definitely pre-C.B.S. </p>
<p>And God looked down upon it and saw that it was good. He saw that it was very
good in fact, and couldn't be improved on at all (though men would later try.)
And so He let it be and He created a man to play the bass. </p>
<p>And lo the man looked upon the bass, which was a beautiful 'sunburst' red,
and he loved it. He played upon the open E string and the note rang through
the earth and reverberated throughout the firmaments (thus reverb came to be.)
And it was good. And God heard that it was good and He smiled at his handiwork.
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<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>T</b></font>hen in the course of time, the
man came to slap upon the bass. And lo, it was funky. And God heard this funkiness
and He said, "Go man, go." And it was good. </p>
<p>And more time passed, and, having little else to do, the man came to practice
upon the bass. And lo, the man came to have upon him a great set of chops. And
he did play faster and faster until the notes rippled like a breeze through
the heavens. </p>
<p>And God heard this sound which sounded something like the wind, which He had
created earlier. It also sounded something like the movement of furniture, which
He hadn't even created yet, and He was not so pleased. </p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>A</b></font>nd He spoke to the man, saying
"Don't do that!" </p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>N</b></font>ow the man heard the voice of
God, but he was so excited about his new ability that he slapped upon the bass
a blizzard of funky notes. And the heavens shook with the sound, and the Angels
ran about in confusion. (Some of the Angels started to dance, but that's another
story.) </p>
<p>And God heard this - how could He miss it - and lo He became Bugged. And He
spoke to the man, and He said, "Listen man, if I wanted Jimi Hendrix I would
have created the guitar. Stick to the bass parts." And the man heard the voice
of God, and he knew not to mess with it. </p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>B</b></font>ut now he had upon him a passion
for playing fast and high. The man took the frets off of the bass which God
had created. And the man did slide his fingers upon the fretless fingerboard
and play melodies high upon the neck. And, in his excitement, the man did forget
the commandment of the Lord, and he played a frenzy of high melodies and blindingly
fast licks. And the heavens rocked with the assault and the earth shook, rattled
and rolled. </p>
<p>Now God's wrath was great. And His voice was thunder as He spoke to the man.
</p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>A</b></font>nd He said, "O.K. for you, pal.
You have not heeded My word. Lo, I shall create a soprano saxophone and it shall
play higher than you can even think of." </p>
<p>"And from out of the chaos I shall bring forth the drums. And they shall play
so many notes thine head shall ache, and I shall make you to always stand next
to the drummer." </p>
<p>"You think you're loud? I shall create a stack of Marshall guitar amps to make
thine ears bleed. And I shall send down upon the earth other instruments, and
lo, they shall all be able to play higher and faster than the bass." </p>
<p>"And for all the days of man, your curse shall be this: that all the other
musicians shall look to you, the bass player, for the low notes. </p>
<p>And if you play too high or fast all the other musicians shall say "Wow" -
but really they shall hate it. And they shall tell you you're ready for your
solo career, and find other bass players for their bands. And for all your days
if you want to play your fancy licks you shall have to sneak them in like a
thief in the night." </p>
<p>"And if you finally do get to play a solo, everyone shall leave the bandstand
and go to the bar for a drink." </p>
<p><font color="#FFCC99" size="+3"><b>A</b></font>nd it was so. </p>
<p><i>--submitted by Valerie Ghent</i></p>
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:52:22 -0500
From: Denis Lanza <dlanza@hessel.com>
To: "'infinityminusone@egroups.com'" <infinityminusone@egroups.com>
Subject: Infinity Minus One
Message-ID: <26595E6A3ED5D411916E00508BF7D690024BD6@SERVER3>
Hey guys and gals,
My band, "Infinity Minus One" has a new song up
on mp3.com featuring our new singer, "Denis J. Lanza". Its
called, "At The Doorway Of Existence". Its currently #1 on mp3.com's
progmetal charts, and our other song, "Face to Face" just hit #1 in
the prog rock charts (it might not be listed yet though). I know the
Lo-Fi play of At The Doorway... had some problems, so we re-mastered
the tune and fixed the phase inversion problems we encountered. But
Hi-Fi play sounds good. The mix could of been better in area's but we
mixed it fast so we could get the song up by X-mas, we are re-mixing
at the moment so there will be allot tighter sounding mix up soon.
But tell me what you think, or not...hey its free music :)
Take care,
Kairo
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:13:46 -0500
From: "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Infinity Minus One
Message-ID: <000001c0710a$af895ac0$730efea9@lanzade1>
Hey guys and gals,
My band, "Infinity Minus One" has a new song up
on mp3.com featuring our new singer, "Denis J. Lanza". Its
called, "At The Doorway Of Existence". Its currently #1 on mp3.com's
progmetal charts, and our other song, "Face to Face" just hit #1 in
the prog rock charts (it might not be listed yet though). I know the
Lo-Fi play of At The Doorway... had some problems, so we re-mastered
the tune and fixed the phase inversion problems we encountered. But
Hi-Fi play sounds good. The mix could of been better in area's but we
mixed it fast so we could get the song up by X-mas, we are re-mixing
at the moment so there will be allot tighter sounding mix up soon.
But tell me what you think, or not...hey its free music :)
Take care,
Kairo
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:05:02 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: dvd player cost
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1109@ISDCRE00>
Yep, the Sony PlayStation II plays DVD's and you can even get the remote
that hooks up with the attachment through the game port in front.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Rasiel [SMTP:megafunk@optonline.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 12:47 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: dvd player cost
>
>
> >How much can DVD player cost, without speakers, ... just the player?
>
> Screw that, get a DVD-ROM for your computer. It plays cd-roms, so you
> can toss your cd-rom player if there's no room. And it plays regular
> DVD's, so if you're only going to get the occasional movie DVD you can
> watch it on your computer screen or ouput it to your TV. All of this
> would still be cheaper than a console type regular DVD player. Then when
> the recordable DVD machines are cheap enough, get that in a console
> version for the tv, and you'll have yourself a sweet little pirating
> setup. :0
>
> Also, the PS2 plays DVD's.
>
> -josh
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:02:17 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <OE51VniSnRMWuLn5U9T00003435@hotmail.com>
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Damon Fibraio" <dfibraio@home.com>
> I have a friend with a dVD player and I could probably hold him at
> gunpoint. I just wanted to know if there were any other mp3 files
available
> other than the phoenix one I saw on Napster.
You _SAW_ it on napster???
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:37:37 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Remember everybody, Damon's BLIND!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001228183712.009f4110@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Yes. ACOS from Phoenix on napster. Just do a search for Dream Theater, and
in title field type live, or even a change of seasons live or something to
that effect.
At 06:13 PM 12/28/2000, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>]From: "Damon Fibraio" <dfibraio@home.com>
> > I have a friend with a dVD player and I could probably hold him at
> > gunpoint. I just wanted to know if there were any other mp3 files
>available
> > other than the phoenix one I saw on Napster.
>
>You _SAW_ it on napster???
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