YTSEJAM Digest 5301
Today's Topics:
1) Roseland Ballroom, NYC
by "Christina Ricciardi" <Stardust@spiritofradio.com>
2) NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc.
by christoph@ds.domino.de (Christoph Bauer)
3) Re: How Long Do the Dregs Play?/ DT SLC show last night
by GerHartley@aol.com
4) JPM
by Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
5) RE: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc.
by David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
6) Re: JPM
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
7) Re: guitar
by Fett2002@aol.com
8) Remove from list!
by dino.j.zisis@us.pwcglobal.com
9) Theory/Dregs
by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
10) Re: Remove from list!
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
11) The Real Saga of Derek(tm)
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Re: The Real Saga of Derek(tm)
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
13) Re: 21 and over in NYC?
by Psyd524@aol.com
14) Re: names
by "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300
by "Bryan Adams" <Badams@orbit-irrigation.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298
by Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
18) Opeth
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
19) the NYC show....
by Caprichan@aol.com
20) apologies, misunderstood list members, and good keyboardists
by "Doug Melvin" <djemelvin@hotmail.com>
21) MP PINS
by Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
22) Florida??
by Melissa Schnee <browncow@ufl.edu>
23) Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;)
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
24) Re: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
25) Re: Styx
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
26) Elvin Jones interview snippet
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:40:15 -0500
From: "Christina Ricciardi" <Stardust@spiritofradio.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Roseland Ballroom, NYC
Message-ID: <200002091140.AA58851882@mail.spiritofradio.com>
Dan Costello writes:
<<I'm really looking forward to seeing DT at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Does anybody know what that place is like? Most importantly, does anyone know if it's a 21 and over show? >>
The Roseland Ballroom is exactly that -- a ballroom. Many moons ago, it was THE place to be on a Saturday night for ballroom dancing in NYC. It's basically a huge room with great sound, but since it's general admission, it can be tough to see the stage even if you're not a shorty. :) In typical NYC fashion, drinks are VERY expensive and they are VERY strict about proofing, but I've never been to a show there that was 21 and over. Besides, if it were, it would say so on the tickets.
Hope that helps. :)
~Christina
http://www.spiritofradio.com
Believe in the freedom of music
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Date: 08 Feb 2000 22:22:00 +0100
From: christoph@ds.domino.de (Christoph Bauer)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc.
Message-ID: <7YT8ExpTkeB@christoph.ds.domino.de>
Hi Jammers,
I write this, because I think, that there are some Gitarists on the Jam
who are familiar with this kind of stuff and equipment I use.
The stuff I use:
- TriAxis
- Lexicon MPx-100
- DBX 166 XL
- ENGL 2X50 Power amp
- JPM-100 P2
- Boogie 4X12 Cab
I think something must be wrong with the sustain.
For example, at a Gain Setting of 10 and a Ld2red Setting of 10, a picked
tone gets really weak after two seconds. I bought the DBX unit because I
thought it can be used to increase the length of the tone. But I can't
hear any effect.
This surprises me, because I used a SansAmp Preamp and a Boss GX700 at the
beginning of my "carreer". And if I dialed in the gx700's Compressor, the
tone was lengthened a lot. I always thought a compressor is used to
increase the level of a weak or a getting weaker tone. The GX700 worked
exactly this way.
is the DBX not working properly?
BTW, the DBX and the Lexicon are running in the TriAxis loop. But I hear
no differences when I just put them in series after the Pre-Amp.
Of course I know that JP uses that kind of Equipment. And his Sustain is
much longer, like as the Sustain of many other Stuff I heard life is
longer. If the DBX is not broken, How could the sustain be reached?
It would be great if someone who is familiar with that technical stuff
could contact me via E-Mail.
I hope this is not non-related too much, but I don't have many sources of
Info like Manuals and Mags because I'm blind.
Sorry for my bad english,
Thanx,
C.
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:13:23 EST
From: GerHartley@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: How Long Do the Dregs Play?/ DT SLC show last night
Message-ID: <14.ccb36e.25d2fa33@aol.com>
Hey Matt,
The Dregs (including the amazing Steve Morse) played last night for a solid
hour. It was fantastic! I love that band. I was surprised to see Andy
West, the original bass player filling in on rhythm guitar and somtimes
doubling up with Dave LaRue on a 2nd bass guitar. (First time I've ever seen
any band play with *2* bass players!)
The Salt Lake City DT show was totally amazing! I just hopped on this list a
few days ago so I don't want to bore you and repeat what others have said
about the setlist and show details... but, suffice it to say that SFaM was
practically note PERFECT! Meeting all the guys and getting autographs after
the concert was a highlight!!! ...Oh, and scoring a twinkie from KorgX3
(meant for Mike P.) wasn't bad either... LOL
-Gerald Hartley
<< Hey Jammerz:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned, but I don't recall reading it. How
long is the Dregs' opening set on this DT tour? I'm just looking for an
estimate... half hour? 45 minutes? Or do they play a full set? And one
more thing, is Steve Morse still in the band? I hope so... I saw him play
for the first time at the Deep Purple gig I went to a couple years back. I
was quite impressed.
Thanx... Matt T. >>
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:35:00 -0700
From: Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: JPM
Message-ID: <38A1A544.2EDA7999@fourwinds-trading.com>
I just played a jpm ibanez with the matte camo finish, and it sounded great! But
the fucking neck is like a classical and the damn frets are soo big! Are John
Petrucci's hands huge? I loved the sound soo much, i considered purchasing it
because of Petruccis playing style, and they way he has influenced me, but damn...
that neck has a fat width......
<Bong hits of fart in the bath tub don't help this poor bastards addiction to
prog. metal>
-Jared
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:45:32 -0700
From: David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc.
Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117B2C@MESSAGING>
> I write this, because I think, that there are some Gitarists on the Jam
> who are familiar with this kind of stuff and equipment I use.
> The stuff I use:
> - TriAxis
> - Lexicon MPx-100
> - DBX 166 XL
> - ENGL 2X50 Power amp
> - JPM-100 P2
> - Boogie 4X12 Cab
Alrighty - first things first. Try removing the DBX and Lexicon from your
signal chain. Get a dry signal first (guitar, preamp, power amp, cabinet -
NO EFFECTS), and make sure you have the sustain you're looking for. If you
still aren't, there is a possibility you need new tubes in your Triaxis
and/or ENGL, a new battery if you have active pickups in your JPM, or new
batteries in any wireless systems you are using. This procedure will
eliminate the main components of the signal chain from suspicion. Now, one
by one, add your effects units back into the chain. I'd say you should
start with the Lexicon. Hook it up, make sure you're still getting your
tone, and if you aren't, it's that unit. FYI: incorrectly configured noise
gates and compressors are notorious for sustain loss. Do the same thing for
the DBX, etc., etc., etc.
If you need any further help, let me know... :)
David Dixon, MCP
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:54:51 -0400
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: JPM
Message-ID: <000501bf7326$c3f49200$37351ec8@yunque.net>
----- Original Message -----
]From: Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: JPM
>
> I just played a jpm ibanez with the matte camo finish, and it sounded
great! But
> the fucking neck is like a classical and the damn frets are soo big! Are
John
> Petrucci's hands huge? I loved the sound soo much, i considered purchasing
it
> because of Petruccis playing style, and they way he has influenced me, but
damn...
> that neck has a fat width......
>
> <Bong hits of fart in the bath tub don't help this poor bastards addiction
to
> prog. metal>
>
> -Jared
>
I dont know if the camo is different...but i have a JPM100P3 ( the black
and white one) and the neck is thin ...tapered. Its very very comfortable.
My hands are pretty big, but theyre not specially *long*, just big :P .
Anyways i dont know maybe the P4 (camo) has a different neck..
*Still waiting on seeing the JP-music man guitar*
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:41:32 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: guitar
Message-ID: <76.18c0bae.25d30edc@aol.com>
>Sure. Nobody *needs* to know music theory in order to write or play music.
In >much the same way, nobody needs to know the rules of spelling and grammar
to >be able to write. But it you want to make a profession of either then you
MUST >learn the rules, or its just lazyness. Simple as that. Theory is too
often slagged off >as this evil thing that inhibits creativity, but that's
complete crap - how often do you >hear someone who knows theory saying how it
ruined their compositional skill? The >problem comes only with people like
Steve Vai, who are virtually incapable of >putting together something that
doesn't RELY on being flashy and clever. Theory >just means that you can
understand WHY something you like sounds the way it >does, which in turn
allows you to get what you want to play out of your head and >onto tape with
minimal changes at the fingerboard stage.
OK, I have a real big question here. Apparently, there are a few guitar
players on this list who are just incredible and we other ytsejammers should
be greatful we are in there mere prescence. My question is this: If you guys
are so great, then how come you keep wasting your time by posting on this
damn newsgroup??? Shouldn't you guys be off dazzling the world with your
incredible guitar playing skills??? Jesus Christ already (and excuse the
language if you hapen to be offended). And this doesn't neccessarily apply to
the guy who wrote the quote above, I'm just using this as an opportunity.
Especiallly to the one guy who said taht he could learn to play better than
Kirk Hammet in a week (or wors to that effect). Well then, stop wasting your
time here, go do it, join a band, and tour the damn world already.
-Mike C.
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:42:32 -0600
From: dino.j.zisis@us.pwcglobal.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Remove from list!
Message-ID: <85256880.0066D341.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com>
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:50:44 -0500
From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Theory/Dregs
Message-ID: <000601bf732e$98b8c900$76035a8c@noaa.gov.osogroup>
My $.02:
Theory can provide a deeper understanding about how the music works. I don't
think anyone will argue that knowledge of music theory is a pre-requisite
for writing quality music. It might make smethings easier, like applying
certain mode known to achieve a desired mood, instead of having to search
for the right notes. (Of course those musically gifted individuals who have
an awesome ear for music don't even think about the theory behind what they
are coming up with--they just hear it in their head and lay it down! The
bastards!) All the theory in the world, however, cannot make a person
creative. I studied music since I was nine and classical guitar in college
w/ a music minor (which I didn't complete), I don't feel that I have a
creative bone in my body and never wrote anything that I (or anyone else for
that matter) considered to be good! Thankfully, I have forgotten much of
music theory, and can now crank out pentatonic hooks worthy of Top40 radio
;-)
For the person who asked if Steve Morse is still in the Dregs: Steve Morse
IS the Dregs! (He writes all of the music.) So, the answer is, yes. I am
also very interested to find out how long their set lasts. I didn't think
they were touring to promote a new album, am I wrong?
My holy grail of guitar performance would be to see Steve and John take the
stage together, as I was told happened at a show in NY some time ago! Is
there any chance of this? Cruise Control anyone!
I-Man
P.S. See ya at the Recher Theater - Blue Honda Accord with YTSEJAM tags
(unless the wife lets me take the new Jetta :o)
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:00:21 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Remove from list!
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000209135908.00aa6b80@pop.ecosoft.com>
Uh oh... I stick my finger out at authority, i shall NOT contact the
sender.. I refuse to delete it from my computer...
I shall post it to multiple newsgroups.. i will send it to *@aol.com..
muhuahhahaha
At 10:56 AM 2/9/00 -0800, dino.j.zisis@us.pwcglobal.com wrote:
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:03:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: The Real Saga of Derek(tm)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000209105513.4522A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
It suddenly hit me.
[It's snowing outside... the members of Drem Theater, sans Kevin, are
standing, waiting for the bus, bundled tightly in their coats.]
JohnP: Dude! Check out this new keyboardist who followed me home!
Mike: Sweet! He looks really tough!
James: No way dude... Jordan's tougher! Dude, here he comes!
JohnP: Derek's gonna kick his ass!
JohnM: Mmm Mmmh Mmm mmm Mmm!
James: Heh, yeah.
[Derek and Jordan meet...]
James: Well, he's definitely doing something to his ass.
JohnP: What the hell?!
Mike: Oh shit, man... Derek's gay!
JohnP: Derek! Come here!
[Derek complies]
JohnP: Now, sit, Derek... good boy.
JohnP: Derek, roll over... good boy.
JohnP: Derek, don't be gay. Don't be gay Derek.
[Derek puts on feather boa, humps Jordan again]
James: Dude, that's sick-ass shit, man.
Mike: Let's face it, John, keyboardists are gay.
JohnP: *sighs* yeah. But that's not bad. I mean, we have James, and
he's an 80's hair-band singer!
James: Ey! I don't have to take that kinda crap from a scrawny
weakling like you!
JohnM: Mmm mm mmmm mm mm mmm!
Mike: No way, dude. James isn't a cat!
--Matt (must... not... take... vicadin... with... vodka... nnngh!)
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"Tell me where the fancy bred, by the hearth or in the bed?"
--William Shakespeare's 'Kama Sutra'
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:19:34 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: The Real Saga of Derek(tm)
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000209141923.00ab0320@pop.ecosoft.com>
that, ladies and gentlemen, is a fucking riot =)
At 11:17 AM 2/9/00 -0800, Matt Johnston wrote:
>It suddenly hit me.
>
>[It's snowing outside... the members of Drem Theater, sans Kevin, are
>standing, waiting for the bus, bundled tightly in their coats.]
>
>JohnP: Dude! Check out this new keyboardist who followed me home!
>Mike: Sweet! He looks really tough!
>James: No way dude... Jordan's tougher! Dude, here he comes!
>JohnP: Derek's gonna kick his ass!
>JohnM: Mmm Mmmh Mmm mmm Mmm!
>James: Heh, yeah.
>
>[Derek and Jordan meet...]
>
>James: Well, he's definitely doing something to his ass.
>JohnP: What the hell?!
>Mike: Oh shit, man... Derek's gay!
>JohnP: Derek! Come here!
>[Derek complies]
>JohnP: Now, sit, Derek... good boy.
>JohnP: Derek, roll over... good boy.
>JohnP: Derek, don't be gay. Don't be gay Derek.
>
>[Derek puts on feather boa, humps Jordan again]
>
>James: Dude, that's sick-ass shit, man.
>Mike: Let's face it, John, keyboardists are gay.
>JohnP: *sighs* yeah. But that's not bad. I mean, we have James, and
> he's an 80's hair-band singer!
>James: Ey! I don't have to take that kinda crap from a scrawny
> weakling like you!
>JohnM: Mmm mm mmmm mm mm mmm!
>Mike: No way, dude. James isn't a cat!
>
>
>
>--Matt (must... not... take... vicadin... with... vodka... nnngh!)
>
>
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> "Tell me where the fancy bred, by the hearth or in the bed?"
> --William Shakespeare's 'Kama Sutra'
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:27:09 EST
From: Psyd524@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: 21 and over in NYC?
Message-ID: <28.198e371.25d3198d@aol.com>
Roseland is a good venue. I saw Megadeth and Type O Negative there a few
months ago. The show is not 21+. The stage is nice and large, which is
good, because in my opinion, a 5 piece with huge amp and effects rigs would
look really stupid on a little stage. The sound is pretty good too,
everything is clear and distinguished from the other instruments. DT will
probably be even better there, because there's no way they're as loud as
Megadeth, and they sounded good there.
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:12:25 +0200
From: "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: names
Message-ID: <000201bf7338$6c35ef20$5f818ac3@xxx>
>And now, try to pronounce MY name, hehe
>
>hugs,
>
>- Ksenya Troitskaya
>
Heh, you've lost the battle, dear lady.
/me had studied Russian for 10 years or so...
But I'm too lazy to type it phonetically.
later,
Vic
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:03:45 -0700
From: "Bryan Adams" <Badams@orbit-irrigation.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300
Message-ID: <s8a165ca.068@orbit-irrigation.com>
Last night was DT's Salt Lake City concert. It was great. They played =
SFM cover to cover, with the addition of about a 5-minute keyboard solo.
Then they played Peruvian Skies, and a medley of earlier songs (PMU, TTT, =
and even Fortune in Lies). Two hours total.
Very nice. The mixing seemed guitar/drums oriented. Maybe it was my =
location (2nd row), but I had a hard time picking out JM's bass work, and =
JR's keys.
While I enjoyed the concert, I wish they would have varied the music a bit =
more from the CD. It was fun to see them, but I could have stayed home =
and just listened to the CD.
They had some modest video that, from time to time, showed lyrics, and a =
few photos.
Overall a great show.
.Bryan..
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:36:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002092134070.868-100000@localhost>
In accordance with the prophecy, Carlos Alfaro uttered:
> Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :)
> off the top of my head :
> Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci(sp?)
> Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres tons o=
f
> cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all t=
he
> guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH
Of course, Akerfeldt (=C5kerfeldt) is a rather boring, common name in Swede=
n...
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=2E
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:41 -0400
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298
Message-ID: <000701bf7340$b9f67060$37351ec8@yunque.net>
----- Original Message -----
]From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298
>
>
> In accordance with the prophecy, Carlos Alfaro uttered:
>
> > Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :)
> > off the top of my head :
> > Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci(sp?)
> > Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres tons
o=
> f
> > cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all
t=
> he
> > guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH
>
> Of course, Akerfeldt (=C5kerfeldt) is a rather boring, common name in
Swede=
> n
Yes of course, but in our point of view its cool! I mean i guess there
couldbe a lot of Satriani's, petrucci's and portnoy's around the world..
but they're no john smiths :)
no offense to any John Smith's on the list..
:)
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:05:31 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
To: The Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>,
Subject: Opeth
Message-ID: <38A1D69B.F83DDC1B@ozemail.com.au>
Let's get one thing straight, Opeth are not, re NOT anyway
shape or form a black metal band, nor for that matter a death metal
band.
Maybe that's what puts a lot of people off checking them out ?
They play extreme progressive metal with 'death metal' style
growling vox, as well as some great 'clean' singing.
I no way can you even compare them to anything in the black/death
metal genre, they are totally unique.
Don't let the growling vox put off from some of the most inspiring
and exciting extreme progressive music there is today.
Check out 'Still Life', I am sure if you can get your ears around the
vox you'll be hooked :)
gaz
www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:29:41 EST
From: Caprichan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: the NYC show....
Message-ID: <6c.17e4ddb.25d33645@aol.com>
Alright, i know it's in Roseland, i'm just wondering if it's 18+, because the
one in NJ is, which really sucks, and whoever wants to answer this, THANKS!!!
and if you would be so kind as to gimme all the details and all, cuz my
computer freezes whenever i try the web. thank you again. laterz all!!!
the Katastrophey
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:29 EST
From: "Doug Melvin" <djemelvin@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good keyboardists
Message-ID: <20000209214130.68418.qmail@hotmail.com>
Sarah,
I'm sorry to have started your membership with a message so malicious,
but if there's ONE thing in this world that angers me, it's ignorance. I
would've never been prompted to post that had it not angered me as much as
it did. There was also a misunderstanding, as I was under the impression
that this was your CURRENT opinion (afterall, you started with "IMO"). I
also never said "arrogant" in that message :) I aplogize for my harshness to
you. I am a previous member of the Genesis list "Paperlate", though, and
it's absolutely full of ignorance and nit-pickiness. That's why I quit, and
I suppose that it was a <bit> hypocritical to do it to you. Again, I say
"I'm sorry," because what I said was pretty uncalled for. But I still stand
on my opinions, they just shouldn't have been directed toward you. I hope I
haven't permanently projected myself as an asshole. I'd hate to think that
someone would have that sort of an opinion about me because I flew off the
handle ONCE :)
By the way, just in the case that you don't absolutely despise me for
those comments, I am also a new member to this list. I like to smile a lot
:P I'm 14 years old, I live in Erie, PA and I'm in 9th grade. I'm a fan of
Genesis, Dream Theater, ELP, Yes, King Crimson, Kevin Gilbert, Tom Petty and
the Heartbreakers, Phil Collins, and many others. I'm not strictly a prog
fan, however, as some people narrow themselves to be. Welcome to the Dream
Theater mailing list, I'm sure we all hope that you enjoy your stay :)
~Doug Melvin
"I just wanted to work with my hands. See something go from A to B. And
somehow I ended up in the Ghetto of Beautiful Things." - Kevin Gilbert
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:59:08 -0500
From: Dave Hatlee <webmaster@mikeportnoy.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: MP PINS
Message-ID: <4.1.20000209165624.0099f9b0@columbus.rr.com>
Hi folks, I just realized I forgot to post a message here to let
you all know about the new Official Mikeportnoy.com pins that
are available. We've sold quite a few of these all over the globe
and people are wearing them to the shows. Take a look when
you get a chance: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/pinorder.html
DaveH - Webmaster and resident DT Fanatic
http://www.mikeportnoy.com - The Official Mike Portnoy Site
http://mpnews.listbot.com - The Official Mike Portnoy Newsletter
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:05:55 -0800
From: Melissa Schnee <browncow@ufl.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Florida??
Message-ID: <38A20EF0.C1A4B60D@ufl.edu>
Hey there,
If there is anyone who is going to the concerts in Orlando, Pompano Beach, or Ybor City, FL and wants to do something before or after the show......LET ME KNOW!! I'm from Gainesville and it just so happens that DT is touring Florida when my spring break begins. So, guess who's following them ;)
You can contact me on the list or privately: browncow@ufl.edu
Melissa
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:19:41 +0200
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;)
Message-ID: <38A1E7FD.2F901FB8@yahoo.com>
Carlos Alfaro wrote:
>
> Ill have to chime in yet again to remind everyone that doesnt give
> Opeth a break because of the growled vocals to please open your minds and do
> give them a break. This truly one of the most incredible bands to come out
> in the 90's.
Okay so you're going to get one new opinion on them soon, I'm a member of
Finnish Music Club and in their latest magazine there was a small review of
them, saying with their latest album they have moved more into the proggier
sound, still maintaining that wonderful melodicality (can you actually say that
??)
> *You really are missing out on an incredible band and listening experience
> if you dismiss them just because they use growls*
I guess that growling vocals are mainly the reason for me to stay clear of some
bands, but I'm going to try hard with this one, since so many people now have
recommended them. I'll let you know how I managed.
- Jaska
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:50:08 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000209225008.016d575c@pi-r-squared.com>
I aplogize for my harshness to
>you. I am a previous member of the Genesis list "Paperlate", though, and
>it's absolutely full of ignorance and nit-pickiness. That's why I quit, and
>I suppose that it was a <bit> hypocritical to do it to you.
HA! If you hate nit-picking, you're gonna LOVE it here ;)
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"Such nauseous hypocrisy which, stung by a threepenny tea tax, piles Bunker
Hill with granites and statues, prating all the time of patriotism and
broadswords, while, like another Pecksniff, it recommends a century of dumb
submission and entire non-resistance to the Russians, who for a hundred
years have seen their sons by thousands dragged to death or exile" -Wendell
Phillips, 1881
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:31:52 +0200
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Styx
Message-ID: <38A1EAD8.E19D97CB@yahoo.com>
Michael Kizer wrote:
>
> I'd start with "Grand Illusion", and if you like that one then start checking
> out "Crystal Ball", "Pieces of Eight", "Cornerstone" and possibly "Paradise
> Theater".
> If you tune into DJ Jessie (or DJ fugazi)'s shows and request some Styx, I'm
> sure we can play a few tracks for you...
Yeah, well, now that I think of it, there was a male voice (so I don't think
Jessie comes to mind, right ? ;-) after a pretty long unpaused music flow (I'm
soooo sorry about my sentences, hope you get what I mean, I really don't always
know how to say things in english...) telling that there were some tracks from
Styx, "Suite..." something, then there was "Crystal Ball" and at least one
other, which I can't remember anymore...
Does that give you enough ? I really liked that "Suite..." thing (or is it
"Sweet.." ?), I'd like to hear more like that, if it's a representative song
from their catalog ? And yeah, Crystal Ball was a good one too...
Thanks Mike for info !!
- Jaska
PS. Oh yes, one thing I forgot to mention, it was the first time I actually
listened to Ytseradio, but I'll guarantee you, won't be the last...Actually,
it's on right now ;-) Keep up the great works, guys and gals !!!
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:40:08 PST
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Elvin Jones interview snippet
Message-ID: <20000209224008.63952.qmail@hotmail.com>
Someone posted this on the Aquarium Rescue Unit list, and I think it fits
well into the recent technical vs. theoretical vs. emotional playing/kirk
hammet thread. It's about Elvin Jones, BTW
"For the sake of clarity I am going to describe Elvin's style in terms of a
three part metaphor because I think it nicely summarizes the artistic
process. The HAND refers to how an artist technically plays; the HEAD to the
actual musical concepts which provide a basis for ones style; the HEART is
the emotional and psychological milieu which frames an artists vision.
(Another way to conceptualize this threesome is body, mind and spirit.) "
I just wanted to share that, I'm done now.
-Fran/Banjoman
np: Danny Elfman - Pee Wee's Big Adventure Theme.mp3
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